I was thinking about this a few days ago. O: And that that civilization could've been destroyed by the twenty kings that created the World Government… o3o
Well, this is the more common theory for years, its also on manga (clover speech) so…
I was thinking about this a few days ago. O: And that that civilization could've been destroyed by the twenty kings that created the World Government… o3o
Well, this is the more common theory for years, its also on manga (clover speech) so…
If he'd done that then he'd be a warlord but Impel Down would be able to draw on manpower from MHQ, .
Impel Down didn't want Marines assistance while dealing with the Jail break.
Doubtful.
Yeah and mark my words, D is the initial of the anciant kingfom.
@People:
Well, this is the more common theory for years, its also on manga (clover speech) so…
I haven't really read any theories about this before since I don't hang around theory threads that much.
I was thinking about this a few days ago. O: And that that civilization could've been destroyed by the twenty kings that created the World Government… o3o
Yes I know ofcourse you were thinking that. And I also know about that other thing! :ninja:
Btw I don't really consider these (and the other things I posted) as much of a "theory" more like "if things will play out the obvious way this will be it".
@Essam:
hmmm , after that what will happening 2 WB crow Marco , Vista and the others
Moria will kill them.
Steven & Aohige are men among men. Thank you kindly.
So, basically, Lafitte is the only one crewember without nickname (mentioned).
Ex-goverment worker from West Blue, sneaking into Marine HQ while tapdancing, unnoticed, a flying devil fruit user, opening gates of justice by hypnotising people?!
Being, dare I say, my favorite character of the series, you still scare the shit out of me, Lafitte. We know so many about him, yet nothing. Just what on earth ARE you?!
Yes I know ofcourse you were thinking that. And I also know about that other thing! :ninja:
…When are you going to leave, huh?!
Your fridge is taking too much power man. =/ Not to mention that annoying noise it's making. It's really giving me a headache.... :getlost:
@Al!naJames:
Steven & Aohige are men among men. Thank you kindly.
So, basically, Lafitte is the only one crewember without nickname (mentioned).
Ex-goverment worker from West Blue, sneaking into Marine HQ while tapdancing, unnoticed, a flying devil fruit user, opening gates of justice by hypnotising people?!
Being, dare I say, my favorite character of the series, you still scare the shit out of me, Lafitte. We know so many about him, yet nothing. Just what on earth ARE you?!
I would love to know that myself.
By the way, love your sig.
The one thing I still don't understand though, is that Teach originally wanted to capture Luffy to get his title.
If he'd done that then he'd be a warlord but Impel Down would be able to draw on manpower from MHQ, which wouldn't be embroiled in a war.
How did he expect to get away with it in his original plan? Was he still going to try to capture Ace afterwards?
Ah well, I guess it's all academic now.
If he had captured Luffy, he could still walk into Impel Down without contest. After that it would just be a matter of getting to Level 6 and freeing his crewmates. Once they're free, ID falls quite quickly and they make their escape.
Too bad that Jango is not in SH i would love to see a hyptnotise battle with Lafitte
@People:
Too bad that Jango is not in SH i would love to see a hyptnotise battle with Lafitte
Jango would lose by hypnotizing himself.
@Essam:
hmmm , after that what will happening 2 WB crow Marco , Vista and the others
They'll probably protect Luffy until he gets better and then they'll go their own way, and we won't see them again until later on in the story. I reckon they'll be back to help Luffy out. But thats what i think….
Wow, you think they were trying to make their old men like Whitebeard? …lol
And you think Netero was weaksauce?
...lol again.
No, the real weakweakweaksauce are Aizen and Meryem (The invincible villains that are making badass people look bad, and not in an awesome way).
Such a drama! After more than 550 chapters with no "live" death… We get 2 of the most charismatic characters of the "light" side who never did anything bad in their life, just seeking love and family taken out in an instant......
And we're not even sure Aikanu's dead....
Dammit, it's really unexpected.
I believe that WB crew, Jinbei or Ivankov will help Luffy reunite with his crew
Oh did you spend that much time on such answers back then?
You could use the search function and find it all out for yourself, you know. I just don't see the point in debating something that we already know to be true. I argued about it with brennen outside of the forum a lot, so I think I kept my forum posts about it fairly concise. We used to argue that one quite a bit, actually. I recall trying to argue with alina, too, but I don't think I got much more than "anyone who thinks that he just got the title to get into ID is an idiot." I know she said more, I just don't think any of it was to me.
…When are you going to leave, huh?!
Your fridge is taking too much power man. =/ Not to mention that annoying noise it's making. It's really giving me a headache.... :getlost:
Chrissie-sama… calm down. D:
I'm curious about Blackbeard's title/respect now.
Despite what he said, would the Marine still like him for killing Whitebeard and capture Ace?… or will he become a Yonkou? Which I would find hilarious and akward.
Croc will defend the old man's pride and take over the WB pirates…make it happen Oda plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
Squad must feel so stupid.
He just dropped the soap in the prison shower.
If he had captured Luffy, he could still walk into Impel Down without contest. After that it would just be a matter of getting to Level 6 and freeing his crewmates. Once they're free, ID falls quite quickly and they make their escape.
No he wouldn't. The only reason that Shiryuu was free was because of Luffy. If he was not free, BB would have had no chance.
@Steven:
Squad must feel so stupid.
Yeah, not only did he get the ball rolling for the opposition, but the wound he inflicted has magically vanished to boot!
@Steven:
Squad must feel so stupid.
He just dropped the soap in the prison shower.
Now that Whitebeard is dead, he's allowed to die. It's cool.
While Oda does know how to throw unexpected twists around, when he does foreshadowing it all usually plays out in a pretty straightforward fashion. This chapter proves that again.
- BB had the gates of justice opened
- BB just wanted shichibukai title to go to ID
- BB was gonna kill WB
as such:
- BB will now get yonkou-like status from his kill. (sure WB was severely wounded already, but he did manage to take out Akainu, probably the strongest marine, in that state, and it's about worldwide image and fame these details don't matter)
- Killing WB was his "show to rock the world".
- the real history will be discovered on raftel alongside OP. (highly doubtful OP actually is the rio poneglyph, because Rayleigh proposed to tell Robin the history at some point, so he would be telling her One Piece? Actually if you read that segment again it becomes clear they are distinct things)
- The D's are descendants of the destroyed civilization
Q4T.
I'd somehow like to see blackbeard do some damage to the marine too, or something more.
It makes me wonder just what he's plan was with going after Luffy, and how much of the war he planned.
If he had gotten Luffy, he'd be a shichibukai, might be able to get to Impel Down, and then what?
I would like to know if the corrupt king's name is pronounced "Abaro" or "Alvaro".
Yeah, not only did he get the ball rolling for the opposition, but the wound he inflicted has magically vanished to boot!
The best thing is where he believed what the Evillest Marine In The World told him.
I'm a little disappointed that becoming an Armed Sea was simply to get into Impel Down since it seems a little…roundabout, but the prospect of having Teach be an active pirate again is a lot better.
Plus I wonder if he'll finally be given a bounty now. Add that to the rest of the original members and Shiryu, and finally all those former prisoners having theirs reinstated.
Am I the only one whose having a hard time seeing the series go back to adventure hijinks after this incredibly heavy drama.
Croc will defend the old man's pride and take over the WB pirates…make it happen Oda plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
Buggy will defend the old man's pride and take over the WB pirates…make it happen Oda plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
Wow, you think they were trying to make their old men like Whitebeard? …lol
And you think Netero was weaksauce?
...lol again.
Agreed. That was by far the most ridiculous statement in this thread…yet.
You could use the search function and find it all out for yourself, you know. I just don't see the point in debating something that we already know to be true. I argued about it with brennen outside of the forum a lot, so I think I kept my forum posts about it fairly concise. We used to argue that one quite a bit, actually. I recall trying to argue with alina, too, but I don't think I got much more than "anyone who thinks that he just got the title to get into ID is an idiot."
Did your argument boil down to "It would be to be as fresh as possible while invading ID cause crossing the calm belt would do serious damages to his ship and drain more power than necessary?".
EDIT: Or let's say to minimize the casualities
Am I the only one whose having a hard time seeing the series go back to adventure hijinks after this incredibly heavy drama.
I disagree.. Luffy will look forward, he will try to do his best to protect his nakama from now on. He will understand that the world aint that happy after all. He will look in the sunset and he ll say : "I wont give up"
Which death was sadder Whitebeard or Ace's
Ace's for me. His character sucked, he and his story was SO pathetic that I cried for him. WB died proud like a legend.
@kuma:
Which death was sadder Whitebeard or Ace's
Whitebeard's of course.
@kuma:
Which death was sadder Whitebeard or Ace's
Ace's. WB's was just epic.
I disagree.. Luffy will look forward, he will try to do his best to protect his nakama from now on. He will understand that the world aint that happy after all. He will look in the sunset and he ll say : "I wont give up"
I hope so, I don't want One Piece to be bereft of comedy after this.
Also I'm having a hard time deciding if this is a victory or a massive loss for the marines. On the plus side they managed to execute Ace and Whitebeard was taken out as a massive bonus.
However on the minus side they got theit island absolutly destroyed and another Shichibukai has betrayed them and freed several dangerous prisoners at the same time.
Ace's was more shocking to me, I thought for SURE Whitebeard would probably die, as much as I didn't want him to, I NEVER saw Ace's death coming ;_; Either way,. both are sad sad sad T__T
I don't know whose death is sadder, I do know when Luffy wakes up he will be twice as pissed
Sengoku decides Ace must die, result? Marines take shittons of damage, ID is invaded and the scum of earth get freed, among them legendary pirates.
WB being old and getting ready to retire, is put back on war mode, destroys marine HQ. Ace who didn't even want to become PK is killed and so is WB.
Now he has to deal with all of the pirates set free, more pirates going to sea probably (after WB confirming 20 years later that OP still exists to the whole world), BB a D. is on his way to become PK with his crew that he has thanks to Sengoku.
Let the revolutionary army gain some of their officers back, let them do damage while marines were in war, opened the doors for new pirate age.
Who would have though that someone would outdo fleet adm. Kong after the fuckup of executing Roger publicly and opening doors for the golden pirate age? Not only did he fail to stop Ace (akainu did it, and 2: ace decided to protect luffy, he wasn't executed) he failed to stop the new pirate age and at the same time show marine power (BB killed WB, marines would have gotten sunked at the rate WB was going).
Akainu has alot to live upto thanks to his predecessors, let's hope luffy and BB can give him a hand.
Buggy will defend the old man's pride and take over the WB pirates…make it happen Oda plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
Thats not bad either, but Croc taking charge looks more possible cause of his complicated past.
Biggest surprise seems to me that Roger is also one of them 2x normal size men. (Thought he was a little smaller and just a tall normal sized guy)
Did your argument boil down to "It would be to be as fresh as possible while invading ID cause crossing the calm belt would do serious damages to his ship and drain more power than necessary?".
EDIT: Or let's say to minimize the casualities
Um, no.
I actually said that some things didn't make sense to me, but the argument was based around the dialogue that Oda wrote for certain characters. Basically, it doesn't make sense to me, but it makes sense to them, which is what's important.
@kuma:
Which death was sadder Whitebeard or Ace's
I nearly cried for both of them, mostly Ace, JUST because of Luffy and that Ace had my favorite Devil Fruit…
For me, it went like this:
Ace: Ace gets fisted "No! No! Luffy… he went through all that... teary eyed for nothing... Luffy makes that face Awww!!! tear"
Honestly, I also cried typing that.
Whitebeard: Whitebeard does epic speech**Narrator does epic speech "Awww… not him too! teary eyed "No, I can't cry like a wuss... I'll disrespect Whitebeard's epic death" I man'd the fuck up
Oda is seriously going on a killing spree and there's no sign of him stopping...
Does Basco have down syndrome? or was he born with fetal alcohol syndrome?
Biggest surprise seems to me that Roger is also one of them 2x normal size men.
That seems a bit inconsistant. Every other time he's been shown, Roger's been normal-guy sized.
Ace's death was sadder , he cried , and he died smiling in the end so sad .
@kuma:
Which death was sadder Whitebeard or Ace's
Ace's was sadder. Whitebeard's was just plain Epic.