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Tobi's Tank Turns Twenty Tomorrow Discussion!!? VI
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yes, evil dead time, i can get down on this
So when Ash shows up in Naruto, he just blows away all the tailed "demons". Wait, even better, Guts and Ash since they both got white streaks, a missing arm, boom sticks(though Guts's in his arm), bad ass fighting skills, have seen real horror, are hunted by demons, have super melee weapons(Giant sword/ chainsaw) and anything else I'm forgetting, damn they have a lot in common.
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Evil Dead Tattoo?
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@Kairouseki:
Evil Dead Tattoo?
[qimg]http://tattoonow.vo.llnwd.net/o25/colorboxtattoohosted/images/gallery/evil-ded1.jpg[/qimg]For a second there, I thought that was three seperate guys with matching tattoos.
Which would have been so incredibly awesome.
But is one guy, which is still awesome. It's been a while since I've seen a tattoo that was actually well-done like that one.
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Are you guys still trying to make it seem like Naruto is the worst manga ever? I mean, I wasn’t that interested in the Killerbee vs Kisame fight but after reading the last chapter I have to say it was great. if there’s one thing Kishi is better at than Oda is at drawing fights. He turned what was supposed to be an uninteresting fight into a great back to back with some strategy fight in just one chapter.
I wouldn’t mind if Oda changes my opinion next week by making Whitebeard go crazy and fight all of the pacifistas and shishibukai at the same time, that would be an awesome fight I tell you, but it probably won't happen.
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Are you guys still trying to make it seem like Naruto is the worst manga ever? I mean, I wasn?t that interested in the Killerbee vs Kisame fight but after reading the last chapter I have to say it was great. if there?s one thing Kishi is better at than Oda is at drawing fights. He turned what was supposed to be an uninteresting fight into a great back to back with some strategy fight in just one chapter.
I wouldn?t mind if Oda changes my opinion next week by making Whitebeard go crazy and fight all of the pacifistas and shishibukai at the same time, that would be an awesome fight I tell you, but it probably won't happen.
Uninteresting? Who was saying that? I thought most people wanted to see this fight? Killerbee made this a great fight. Wats beats throwing a pencil at someone. oh yea get ready to get flamed by everyone.
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@Kairouseki:
Wat .
I concur .
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oh wow I'm actually agreeing with juju over something
I feel dirty
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Uninteresting? Who was saying that? I thought most people wanted to see this fight? Killerbee made this a great fight. Wats beats throwing a pencil at someone. oh yea get ready to get flamed by everyone.
Killerbee was alright, Kisame not so much. Kisame is more of a bleach character than a Naruto one.
They don't interest me much but I have to say the fight is coming along nicely.
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@Kairouseki:
Wat .
This is a short fight, if we're going to compare it to a recent OP fight it has to be Mallegan Vs Luffy, which of the two do you think was better planned and had a better execution?
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Killerbee was alright, Kisame not so much. Kisame is more of a bleach character than a Naruto one.
They don't interest me much but I have to say the fight is coming along nicely.
IMO Killerbee is way better then just alright. How is Kisame a Bleach character?? Just because of using a sword??
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Luffy didn't really fight Magellan. He was trying to escape not pick a fight with someone he couldn't beat. They're not comparable.
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I was talking about their first encounter.
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Anyone want to take this? I haven't (and will not) read the chapter.
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@Kairouseki:
Luffy didn't really fight Magellan. He was trying to escape not pick a fight with someone he couldn't beat. They're not comparable.
??? Luffy got his ass whipped. He wasn't running.
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I forgot about when they first met. Yes, Luffy lost.
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Are you guys still trying to make it seem like Naruto is the worst manga ever?
No one is, or ever has, tried to do that. And in fact, most of us said this chapter was pretty good. Why do people always assume we make fun of the series because its the worst or that we hate it? The worst stuff isn't worth reading or spending time mocking.
The joy in Naruto comes from the fact that it was once consistently great, and it has moments of greatness about once a month, followed immediatley by head-desking moments of terrible the next week. The highs and amazing potential are balanced by incredibly bad lows.
In this way, it entertains, and so is in no way the worst.
I mean, I wasn’t that interested in the Killerbee vs Kisame
And you lose all crediblity here. Its Killerbee. That makes it interesting right off the bat, and you should be ashamed if you weren't looking forward to it.
Its okay if you were worried about him screwing it up, but…
if there’s one thing Kishi is better at than Oda is at drawing fights.
No, not really. Oda puts more comedy into his battles usually, but I'd say when it comes to the actual drawing and composition of a fight, neither is better.
Kishi used to be WAY WAY better than he currently is, the choreography of most of the Chunin Exam fights (Lee/Gaara especially) was fantastic. Its been much more muddied and confusing in the last couple years.
He turned what was supposed to be an uninteresting fight into a great back to back with some strategy fight in just one chapter.
Again. If you were expecting a fight with Killerbee to be uninteresting, you went in with entirely the wrong expectations. Him and Raikage singlehandedly make this series awesome, along with Rock Lee. What with their basically just ignoring the rules of the universe and countering ultimate attacks with things like "Elbow" and "pencil". they're so overpoweredand unconcerned that they're a lot of fun.
The rest of us were expecting Kishi to skip it entirely except for a couple panels, like all the other tailed beast fights have been.
I wouldn’t mind if Oda changes my opinion next week by making Whitebeard go crazy and fight all of the pacifistas and shishibukai at the same time, that would be an awesome fight I tell you, but it probably won't happen.
Luffy vs. Lucchi fight is on par with anything Kishi has ever done, including the pinnacle of Naruto, the Lee/Gaara fight. I don't feel like going through a list of creative and different fights right now, but Oda tends to have more variety.
That Kishi is making THIS fight interesting, is probably due to the fact its a villain versus a villain, and his badguys tend to be far more compelling than his leads.
Otherwise, you've got lots of clones, rasengan, miss. Lots of clones, rasengan, hit. That's been EVERY naruto fight since he learned to throw a fireball. And then there's sharingan hax…
This is a short fight, if we're going to compare it to a recent OP fight it has to be Mallegan Vs Luffy, which of the two do you think was better planned and had a better execution?
One is a fight between two chakra tossing out transforming end-series beast things where the outcome can go either way, and the other was a brawl between an already tired physical fighter and a poison man who is thus far, undefeated, and for story reasons, wasn't supposed to lose. Two completley different situations.
Oda is doing his godly fights now, come back in three weeks and compare Kishi's monster fight to the one Oda is about to unleash. That'll be a fairer comparison.
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@robbybevard:
No one is, or ever has, tried to do that. And in fact, most of us said this chapter was pretty good. Why do people always assume we make fun of the series because its the worst or that we hate it? The worst stuff isn't worth reading or spending time mocking.
The joy in Naruto comes from the fact that it was once consistently great, and it has moments of greatness about once a month, followed immediatley by head-desking moments of terrible the next week. The highs and amazing potential are balanced by incredibly bad lows.
In this way, it entertains, and so is in no way the worst.
And you lose all crediblity here. Its Killerbee. That makes it interesting right off the bat, and you should be ashamed if you weren't looking forward to it.
Its okay if you were worried about him screwing it up, but…
No, not really. Oda puts more comedy into his battles usually, but I'd say when it comes to the actual drawing and composition of a fight, neither is better.
Kishi used to be WAY WAY better than he currently is, the choreography of most of the Chunin Exam fights (Lee/Gaara especially) was fantastic. Its been much more muddied and confusing in the last couple years.
Again. If you were expecting a fight with Killerbee to be uninteresting, you went in with entirely the wrong expectations. Him and Raikage singlehandedly make this series awesome, along with Rock Lee. What with their basically just ignoring the rules of the universe and countering ultimate attacks with things like "Elbow" and "pencil". they're so overpoweredand unconcerned that they're a lot of fun.
The rest of us were expecting Kishi to skip it entirely except for a couple panels, like all the other tailed beast fights have been.
Luffy vs. Lucchi fight is on par with anything Kishi has ever done, including the pinnacle of Naruto, the Lee/Gaara fight. I don't feel like going through a list of creative and different fights right now, but Oda tends to have more variety.
That Kishi is making THIS fight interesting, is probably due to the fact its a villain versus a villain, and his badguys tend to be far more compelling than his leads.
Otherwise, you've got lots of clones, rasengan, miss. Lots of clones, rasengan, hit. That's been EVERY naruto fight since he learned to throw a fireball. And then there's sharingan hax...
One is a fight between two chakra tossing out transforming end-series beast things where the outcome can go either way, and the other was a brawl between an already tired physical fighter and a poison man who is thus far, undefeated, and for story reasons, wasn't supposed to lose. Two completley different situations.
Oda is doing his godly fights now, come back in three weeks and compare Kishi's monster fight to the one Oda is about to unleash. That'll be a fairer comparison.
You can't be serious. I see plenty of people come in here nd state they hate Naruto.
This is your Opinion that naruto is not consistant
I don't see your point. If he doesn't like KB thats his opinion. Your opinion isn't worth anymore then his.LOL Killerbee and Raikage didn't save crap. Naruto already has Great characters like Jman(U said he not dead rightlol),Kakashi,Lee,Shikamaru,Neji,Gaara etc… I like Killerbee BTW
I already said they wasn't going to skip it. Kishi never showed the other tail beast, but he showed Killerbee. Why would he rondomly make Killerbee get captured offscreen????
Most time i understand wats going on in the fights.
fights doesn't have more variety in fights. We went over this already. LOL OP punch punch punch etc... fall get wash repeat.Luffy got his ass beat. Get over it with the excuses. I can say Sasuke fail to capture Killerbee because of the story bla bla EVERYTHING IS PART OF THE STORY. He got his ass beatdown,pwned,owed etc... Almost died if someone didn't save his weak ass. He should of found Zoro before he went in to that place.
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Luffy got his ass beat. Get over it with the excuses. I can say Sasuke fail to capture Killerbee because of the story bla bla EVERYTHING IS PART OF THE STORY. He got his ass beatdown,pwned,owed etc… Almost died if someone didn't save his weak ass. He should of found Zoro before he went in to that place.
And this is why you don't write a manga, or anything for that matter.
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And this is why you don't write a manga, or anything for that matter.
I was joking with that last comment. Wow I just like Zoro and hate Luffy. When he gets his ass beat is good for me just like how u guys feel when Sasuke gets his ass beat.
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But Luffy's ya know….likable.
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I was joking with that last comment. Wow I just like Zoro and hate Luffy. When he gets his ass beat is good for me just like how u guys feel when Sasuke gets his ass beat.
You Like NEJI and hate Luffy?
You like Mr. I think I Know everything about nothing and act on a whim and take out my vengeance on my cousin whose done absolutely nothing to me (NEJI)?
Dear god, how is that better than a comical character whose also bad ass?
Neji's just straight face, cockiness, straight face and silent. There's nothing to like but design alone.
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You Like NEJI and hate Luffy?
You like Mr. I think I Know everything about nothing and act on a whim and take out my vengeance on my cousin whose done absolutely nothing to me (NEJI)?
Dear god, how is that better than a comical character whose also bad ass?
Neji's just straight face, cockiness, straight face and silent. There's nothing to like but design alone.
Neki is my favorite character in Naruto, and what you said about neji can almost applied to any other characters in manga or nartuo one piece you can sum them up in few words but that doesnt mean you have to hate them or tell others to hate some characters because YOU HATE them.
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You Like NEJI and hate Luffy?
You like Mr. I think I Know everything about nothing and act on a whim and take out my vengeance on my cousin whose done absolutely nothing to me (NEJI)?
Dear god, how is that better than a comical character whose also bad ass?
Neji's just straight face, cockiness, straight face and silent. There's nothing to like but design alone.
That's more than enough for some people.
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Who's this Neki? And he's your favorite character? What happened to Neji~? :ninja:
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You Like NEJI and hate Luffy?
You like Mr. I think I Know everything about nothing and act on a whim and take out my vengeance on my cousin whose done absolutely nothing to me (NEJI)?
Dear god, how is that better than a comical character whose also bad ass?
Neji's just straight face, cockiness, straight face and silent. There's nothing to like but design alone.
Can't believe no one else caught this, but he said Sasuke, who everyone (who visits this thread) knows to be his favorite character.
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You Like NEJI and hate Luffy?
You like Mr. I think I Know everything about nothing and act on a whim and take out my vengeance on my cousin whose done absolutely nothing to me (NEJI)?
Dear god, how is that better than a comical character whose also bad ass?
Neji's just straight face, cockiness, straight face and silent. There's nothing to like but design alone.
??? My fav character is Sasuke and Kakashi. I don't like Neji and for people who do who cares. How did he take his vengence out on his cuz? He said she is below him and didn't even want to finish her off. Neji also changed.
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Neki is my favorite character in Naruto, and what you said about neji can almost applied to any other characters in manga or nartuo one piece you can sum them up in few words but that doesnt mean you have to hate them or tell others to hate some characters because YOU HATE them.
which is why most manga suck. Stale characters are stale, just because they're the norm doesn't make them anymore likable let alone better.
Just because everyone else failed the test doesn't mean you should.
You're making an excuse for Neji's design, you shouldn't have to. You should be able to say what traits you like about him, but he doesn't really have any.
And sure, there are many characters that act out of ignorance in manga, but the sheer fact that he was a douchebag made him pretty dislikable for me.
@Juju: You said Neji was a great character, when you say someone or something is great. You're implying that you like it. Also beating your cousin to a pulp isn't vengeance now? What about after wards telling her she's lower than dirt?
You don't have to kill someone to get revenge, you just retaliate for your wrong.
also, just reread it. HE TRIED TO KILL HER EVEN:
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/81/06/
all over shit he had no clarification over.
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I don't "hate" naruto.
In fact, He moved up to my list of characters who i can almost tolerate because of his whole " you ain't my whore!" stunt.
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You can't be serious. I see plenty of people come in here nd state they hate Naruto.
This is your Opinion that naruto is not consistant
I don't see your point. If he doesn't like KB thats his opinion. Your opinion isn't worth anymore then his.LOL Killerbee and Raikage didn't save crap. Naruto already has Great characters like Jman(U said he not dead rightlol),Kakashi,Lee,Shikamaru,Neji,Gaara etc… I like Killerbee BTW
I already said they wasn't going to skip it. Kishi never showed the other tail beast, but he showed Killerbee. Why would he rondomly make Killerbee get captured offscreen????
Most time i understand wats going on in the fights.
fights doesn't have more variety in fights. We went over this already. LOL OP punch punch punch etc... fall get wash repeat.Luffy got his ass beat. Get over it with the excuses. I can say Sasuke fail to capture Killerbee because of the story bla bla EVERYTHING IS PART OF THE STORY. He got his ass beatdown,pwned,owed etc… Almost died if someone didn't save his weak ass. He should of found Zoro before he went in to that place.
That's the thing, it would have been far better in the story if Sasuke lost to Killer Bee especially since Bee was going to get away anyway. But no, Kishimoto had to make Sasuke win and see where that got him? He ended up ruining a cool fight with a lame anti-climactic deus ex machina bullshit eye move.
I'll let robby handle the rest if he feels like it. Just wanted to point that particular thing out since it wasn't something obvious.
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Ugh, OP fights are not just punch, punch, kick.
Typical Naruto fight
- LOL, let's use weak attacks
- Oooh, I kill you!
- No wait, it was a log!
- EYE HAX
- I will overcome ur eyes!!! RAWR
- Bad guy deus ex power up "Now u c my true form"
- Good guy have emoshunal seens
- Good guy HAX
- Bad guy ded
Name one Narubo fight that doesn't follow this formula.
Examples: Pain vs. Jiraiya, Naruto vs. Pain, Itachi vs. Sauce, Kisame vs Killer Bee, Narubo vs. Sauce, etc.
The only One Piece fights that involve power-ups were the Enies Lobby fights… which most of us were not too fond of, so your point is moot, juju
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@Thousand:
I'll let robby handle the rest if he feels like it. Just wanted to point that particular thing out since it wasn't something obvious.
Naw, I'm not in the mood to tear apart his weak arguments that miss the point entirely today. And I have him on block and am only seeing the messages secondhand. I wish so many people would stop feeding the troll/quoting him in full.
Mostly, I can't wait for Jiraiya to show back up alive and well. Just because Juju so adamantly believes that can't possibly be the case.
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Ugh, OP fights are not just punch, punch, kick.
Typical Naruto fight
- LOL, let's use weak attacks
- Oooh, I kill you!
- No wait, it was a log!
- EYE HAX
- I will overcome ur eyes!!! RAWR
- Bad guy deus ex power up "Now u c my true form"
- Good guy have emoshunal seens
- Good guy HAX
- Bad guy ded
Name one Narubo fight that doesn't follow this formula.
Examples: Pain vs. Jiraiya, Naruto vs. Pain, Itachi vs. Sauce, Kisame vs Killer Bee, Narubo vs. Sauce, etc.
The only One Piece fights that involve power-ups were the Enies Lobby fights… which most of us were not too fond of, so your point is moot, juju
hmm zoro vs mr.1 powerup and nami's magic wand. zabuza vs kakashi and 3rd vs oro didn't follow that formula kisame vs killerbee??? the fight just started :ninja:
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zabuza vs kakashi and 3rd vs oro didn't follow that formula
Hey to be fair both those fights were really good. It's the rest of the series we complain about.
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Fairy Tail came with it's Drum Castle color spread.
Bleach took on Whiskey Peak.
Now I'm waiting to see what next week's Naruto might bring.
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Zoro vs Mr.1: Zoro learning new technique during the battle; not "You are strong, but I'm stronger. Now I will show you my real strenth". Zoro got stronger and stronger through battles, in a natural way, and I like that.
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It took Luffy 3 times to defeat Crocodile, and each time, he got slowly closer to winning until his victory in the end. While we're on the subject of OP>Naruto fights
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I'll defend the Lee/Gaara fight any time. That was superb. Anything since then, not so much.
But the 3rd/Orochi fight, for a battle of the uber elite, was kinda dull. But better in the anime.
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I don't "hate" naruto.
In fact, He moved up to my list of characters who i can almost tolerate because of his whole " you ain't my whore!" stunt.
yeah that gave him a good push from the bottom…but how could he exept such a slutty offer..
it`s like she said to him..1.50$ for a blowjob and 3.50$ , when you want to rock my bottom:blink:he would be such a horrible main chara..just think about hina:sad:
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Best all-out fight against the top was the Sannin fight, although Jiraiya was cockblocked during that fight so he couldn't fight at his full potential. If he could have, he'd have raped some faces. The Six Paths vs. Jiraiya was okay, but it was completely mocked by Naruto instantly mastering Sage mode (and destroying all the Pains), which supposedly took Jiraiya years to master…
It would be nice if they had at least bothered to animate the Sannin vs. Hanzo fight. That probably would have been one of the better fights of the series.
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man remember, Naruto isn't a genius type (kishishishishi), he has to train sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo damn hard to achieve what others can do from the start (about 1 or 2 instances even) and beside that he didn't inherit anything else that is useful from his father (kishishishishi), not even some tailed beast powers like Gaara… he's such a left alone character really and noone likes to play with him, loves him or helps him... miserable.
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Yo, I just had this desert from a convenience store that was friggin' awesome. It's called White Chocolate Mountain and it's essentially bread crusts cut into tiny chunks and toasted then covered in white chocolate and topped with powdered sugar.
Yuuuuuuuum.
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Yo, I just had this desert from a convenience store that was friggin' awesome. It's called White Chocolate Mountain and it's essentially bread crusts cut into tiny chunks and toasted then covered in white chocolate and topped with powdered sugar.
Yuuuuuuuum.
make a scan and post it, i can't imagine that ;)
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I'd have to take a picture of my jejunum but if I can get my hands on it again I'll do so.
It's really hard to get.
I went around 3 different Lawson's for 3 days in search of it and none of 'em had it. On the last day one of my students who works there part time asked their boss to order them for me and they got them back in stock.
Is this what it feels like to be a politician?
Has Greg gone mad with power?
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i said scan man, SCAN!
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Erm, okay, but it's gonna leave my scanner awfully smelly.
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i dare you to scan it! all things that are fun smell funny in the end…
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Hey I'm not the one who has a problem with it but I'm pretty sure that kind of thing is illegal on the forum let alone at least 48 states.
Oh, Kishimoto lost the praise I had for him concerning making awesome-looking villains. He can suck on D's nutz.