Is Oda rich? How rich?
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Is Oda rich? How rich?
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Hey, i would like to know: where come from this map that i have seen in the geography thread? http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9536/opgrandlinept2dx8.jpg
From color walk or something else? i know the east blue and grand line map but not this one -
@Vanessa: I take the "no winds" point, though I don't remember that, but that triangle is shown to have crazy, random currents all throughout it - not like the Calm Belt in that regard. As for Water 7 only seeming to be close to Enies Lobby, you have to bear in mind that a Marine ship, using the edge of the triangular currents to its advantage, still takes 4 and a half days to get from Amazon Lily to Impel Down. So how long were they travelling on Puffing Tom? If it was 4 days or less, Water 7 can't be that far from Enies Lobby. It can't be that much faster than a Marine ship using some crazy current to speed it along, surely?
Is Oda rich? How rich?
Well considering that 180 million copies of One Piece have been sold in Japan, even if he only got the equivalent of 50 cents for each volume, that'd still be $90,000,000 he'd have. And that's not including royalties from the anime and all the merchandise. Oh, and overseas sales of One Piece.
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Does the fact that Mihawk wasnt able to cut Buggy mean that Mihawk cant use Haki ?
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Not necessarily. He most likely wasn't prepared to fight someone who couldn't be cut. I hope he can't use Hockey though.
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Has anyone done a collection of all the cover stories in one torrent or in a DDL RAR or something? If so, where could I get it from?
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I take the "no winds" point, though I don't remember that, but that triangle is shown to have crazy, random currents all throughout it - not like the Calm Belt in that regard.
The Grand Line is widely-known as an unpredictable and crazy ocean. Only the water near islands is relatively normal. We were told this by Crocus while he was explaining the Log Pose to Nami and the others. That area having no winds was why that if Robin was taken beyond the Gates of Justice, there chance at getting her back would be lost.
And If you're talking about the whirpools that are created by Enies Lobby when the Gates of Justice are shut those are outside of that triangle are, not inside of it.
As for Water 7 only seeming to be close to Enies Lobby, you have to bear in mind that a Marine ship, using the edge of the triangular currents to its advantage, still takes 4 and a half days to get from Amazon Lily to Impel Down. So how long were they travelling on Puffing Tom? If it was 4 days or less, Water 7 can't be that far from Enies Lobby. It can't be that much faster than a Marine ship using some crazy current to speed it along, surely?
That was one of the main points of the sea train: that it was so much faster in getting resources to and from the different islands that the tracks are already constructed at without having to worry about winds or nasty currents messing it up.
Besides, most of that four days was from Amazon Lily to the Tarai Current itself; once a ship is on it there's only an hour or so left in the trip. That's why Luffy, Jinbei and the rest of the escaped prisoners managed to make it from Impel Down to Marineford in about an hour and a half, or the Buster Call assembled at Marineford making it to Enies Lobby not long after Spandam accidentally pushed the Golden Den Den Mushi.
That "crazy current" isn't much of a factor in determining the distance from an island that wouldn't be using it in the first place(Water 7).
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The Grand Line is widely-known as an unpredictable and crazy ocean. Only the water near islands is relatively normal. We were told this by Clover while he was explaining the Log Pose to Nami and the others.
And If you're talking about the whirpools that are created by Enies Lobby when the Gates of Justice are shut those are outside of that triangle are, not inside of it.
That was one of the main points of the sea train: that it was so much faster in getting resources to and from the different islands that the tracks are already constructed at without having to worry about winds or nasty currents messing it up.
Besides, most of that four days was from Amazon Lily to the Tarai Current itself; once a ship is on it there's only an hour or so left in the trip. That's why Luffy, Jinbei and the rest of the escaped prisoners managed to make it from Impel Down to Marineford in about an hour and a half, or the Buster Call assembled at Marineford making it to Enies Lobby not long after Spandam accidentally pushed the Golden Den Den Mushi.
That "crazy current" isn't much of a factor in determining the distance from an island that wouldn't be using it in the first place(Water 7).
Clover? Do you mean Crocus?
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Uh, when was this shown exactly? Because as far as we've seen, aside from those three currents in-between Enies Lobby, Impel Down and Marineford, there hasn't been anything random or crazy.
If you're talking about the whirpools that are created by Enies Lobby when the Gates of Justice are shut those are outside of that triangle are, not inside of it.
If you look at the picture though, it has three different currents drawn: the ones outside the triangle pushing away, the ones that make up the triangle, and spiral ones inside of the triangle.
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@mdmartin101:
Clover? Do you mean Crocus?
Hahaha yeah I mixed up the names.
Fixed it now.
If you look at the picture though, it has three different currents drawn: the ones outside the triangle pushing away, the ones that make up the triangle, and spiral ones inside of the triangle.
Then why was Moria's ship just floating around no problem. If that picture directly reflected what that area was like, then it'd be spinning constantly and would've been long sunk, and Momonga's ship wouldn't have been able to make it into the Tarai Current from the side while escorting Hancock to Impel Down.
That picture doesn't really affirm anything.
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What? The "triangle" Moria's ship was in is a completely different triangle.
I don't remember its name, but it was the OP version of the Bermuda Triangle.
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You're thinking of Floriam Triangle.
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The thing that Minotaurus trew 2 fighting prisioners in the first chapter of Impel Down, it ended and we didn't knew what it was?? I feel slighty cheated…
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Spoiler for anyone who doesn't read the Manga
Who opened the Gate of Justice for Luffy and the prisoners to enter Marinford?
I don't think it was Hancock, she seemed to be with the others the whole time even tho she did have Ace's key and I don't subscribe to the Jesus Buggy or Moses theory either. ^^;
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Buggy wasn't commanding it to open like Moses (Jesus, lol), he was preparing to use a spirit bomb to blast it open. The door, seeing this, decided to get the fuck out of the way.
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rofl, SSJ4 Buggy Vs. Gate D. Justice. First round KO due to submission. xD
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Hahahaha, Uncle Kenny!
MmmBug we don't know yet. And if any only Anime guy is in this part of the forums they deserve to be spoiled.
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Spoiler for anyone who doesn't read the Manga
Who opened the Gate of Justice for Luffy and the prisoners to enter Marinford?
Not spoilers - Free for anyone in the Manga subforum to view
Ace is Gol D. Roger's son.
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LOL, nice one Luigi :D
besides, what's taking the spoilers today?
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If every devil fruit is unique, then how come here is an encyclopedia with everyone of them, along with the ability they give?
I mean, how can you know the power of the fruit before eating it ? -
By knowing whoever ate it before, but has already died. That's when the Fruit regrows.
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If every devil fruit is unique, then how come here is an encyclopedia with everyone of them, along with the ability they give?
I mean, how can you know the power of the fruit before eating it ?The encyclopedia likely just doesn't have every Devil Fruit in existence recorded just yet.
Like when Spandam gave Kaku and Califa the Ushi Fruit: Model Giraffe and Awa Fruit respectively. They didn't know what ability would be gained until they were eaten so maybe those two Devil Fruits were never found before that time.
I'm guessing sometime in the future those would be added onto the encyclopedia.
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I wonder what the Whitebeard pirates do, or Shank's even. If they're like all Luffies… or like like the marines for the 2nd half of the grand line... or if they're typical bad pirates?
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The encyclopedia likely just doesn't have every Devil Fruit in existence recorded just yet.
Like when Spandam gave Kaku and Califa the Ushi Fruit: Model Giraffe and Awa Fruit respectively. They didn't know what ability would be gained until they were eaten so maybe those two Devil Fruits were never found before that time.
I'm guessing sometime in the future those would be added onto the encyclopedia.
IIRC Sanji actually talks about how he read about Absalom's power in the encyclopaedia when he was little. That potential plothole could be gotten around with the idea that Absalom eat the fruit a long time ago but does that then mean that he (and everyone else that eats a devil fruit) sends off a form the the encyclopaedia company telling them about their powers?
I had the idea that only one type of devil fruit can exist at a time but that when the user dies, another such fruit may grow. I just noticed that Conspiracynut said this too, but is it actually canon? I don't remember it being stated.
Then why was Moria's ship just floating around no problem. If that picture directly reflected what that area was like, then it'd be spinning constantly and would've been long sunk, and Momonga's ship wouldn't have been able to make it into the Tarai Current from the side while escorting Hancock to Impel Down.
That picture doesn't really affirm anything.
You're mixing up points here. Both the Florian Triangle and that triangle in that map are said to have wild currents. Moria's ship just happily floating around is odd, yes, but it doesn't change the fact that the Florian Triangle was both described as and shown as a large triangular area of unpredictable, powerful currents. You see the so-called snake currents in the Florian Triangle after Thriller Bark.
Whether you accept my idea of how close Water 7 is to Enies Lobby or not, the point is that they still went from one side of that triangle to the other to get to Sabaody. All you're disputing is if they went through the triangle on that map or alongside it, through a second nearby triangle that isn't shown on the map for some reason. They went from the Enies Lobby side of that triangle to the Sabaody side of that triangle, leaving the Florian Triangle just before getting to Sabaody, but it wasn't the triangle in that map? You think there are two giant triangle-shaped areas of crazy currents right next to each other? And only one of them is on that map for some reason, and people only mentioned the Florian Triangle and neglected to mention the other huge triangle area that's also right next to where they were going?
Another thing showing the Florian Triangle's currents
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:FlorianTriangle.pngAs for the Momonga point; well of course the arrows on the map aren't showing the exact currents. It's just representing that there are some unusual and noticeable currents in that area.
To be fair, I'm not trying to make this point out to be like "how do you not realise this?" I actually can see where you're coming from because, for one thing, it does seem odd that Oda (via one of the characters) hasn't labelled that sea as the Florian Triangle if it is indeed meant to be. I mean, you'd think that someone would have pointed out how the marines use the edge of the infamous Florian Triangle to travel between Enies Lobby, Impel Down and Marineford. That said, if it isn't the Florian Triangle, then the sea must be like this, considering where they travel from and where they end up:
The black lines starting from Water 7 are two examples of possible router they would have travelled when going from Water 7, through the Florian Triangle (wherever it is) and ending up near to Sabaody, by the Red Line.
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Speaking of the DF encyclopedia, do they come with details of information or just a DF name. I know it's called encyclopedia for a reason but I wonder do they gave a details of description about all the fruit that was listed? For example, do they have a description/details for Yami Yami no Mi (Blackbeard's DF) like "This fruit can nullified other DF", "This fruit can suck everything like a blackhole" because that kinda… ruin the mystery isn't it? It's like the person that eat the food they wanted doesn't have to figure out what they can do with their fruit and instead just read the encyclopedia for the details. I remember Sanji said something about he knows about the invisible fruit and what the fruit can do.
I also wonder about the the access to this encyclopedia. Does this encyclopedia still available and is it easier to get a hand of the encyclopedia? Because if someone possessed it they can easily tell and examine the weakness of the fruits and it'd help if the person is having his/her own adventure on Grand Line and met lots of DF user. At first I thought the encyclopedia was made/published by Vegapunk and since he work for the World Government, only the Government can have the info/details. Which explained how they know the power of a certain fruits because Vegapunk has been doing a research and crack a lot of mysteries behind the fruit. It's not surprising if he knows the DF abilities without having one to eat it. That until it was revealed Sanji and BB also read the encyclopedia. I'm fine with BB read/find out about the encyclopedia since it fits his characteristic (he is really good at gathering info and have enough patient to get what he wants). I only found it weird when Sanji said he read the encyclopedia when he was little/still a kid.
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I don't see how the Florian Triangle could possibly be the Gov't used triangle which requires the opening of the GoJ to enter.
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Hey,
When a fruit user dies does the fruit show up right there to be eaten again or appear somewhere random in the world?
Like will WB's Quake Quake fruit appear if he dies? That will be bad if someone like Sengoku eats it assuming he's not a fruit user already.
Or is there something wrong with this question altogether? Thacth was killed for his fruit right? Was it after he ate it already?
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Hey,
When a fruit user dies does the fruit show up right there to be eaten again or appear somewhere random in the world?
Like will WB's Quake Quake fruit appear if he dies? That will be bad if someone like Sengoku eats it assuming he's not a fruit user already.
Or is there something wrong with this question altogether? Thacth was killed for his fruit right? Was it after he ate it already?
It would grow somewhere random, I would expect.
Yes WB's Quake Fruit will appear, but perhaps not straight away after he dies, hell, it might even take another 10 years for it to grow again, plus the years until someone else finds it.
Thatch was killed bcause he found the fruit BB wanted. He didn't eat it.
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IIRC Sanji actually talks about how he read about Absalom's power in the encyclopaedia when he was little. That potential plothole could be gotten around with the idea that Absalom eat the fruit a long time ago but does that then mean that he (and everyone else that eats a devil fruit) sends off a form the the encyclopaedia company telling them about their powers?
It's not a plothole…
The Suke Fruit simply must have been eaten by someone and recorded in the encyclopedia before Absalom ever got it.
Just like the Yorki Pirates knew that Brook ate the Yomi Fruit in spite of it not activating until he dies.
I had the idea that only one type of devil fruit can exist at a time but that when the user dies, another such fruit may grow. I just noticed that Conspiracynut said this too, but is it actually canon? I don't remember it being stated.
We already know that's the case. It's in one of the SBS things.
You're mixing up points here. Both the Florian Triangle and that triangle in that map are said to have wild currents. Moria's ship just happily floating around is odd, yes, but it doesn't change the fact that the Florian Triangle was both described as and shown as a large triangular area of unpredictable, powerful currents. You see the so-called snake currents in the Florian Triangle after Thriller Bark.
The Florian Triangle is known for having the large fog and the mysterious disappearances of over 100 ships a year.
Nothing about currents.
Whether you accept my idea of how close Water 7 is to Enies Lobby or not, the point is that they still went from one side of that triangle to the other to get to Sabaody. All you're disputing is if they went through the triangle on that map or alongside it, through a second nearby triangle that isn't shown on the map for some reason.
You do know that when the Strawhats reached the Red Line they were nowhere near Saobady right. Camie had them led to the Flying Fish Riders' base then Hatchan led them to Saobady Archipelago. They were long out of the Florian Triangle before even getting there due to Oars and even then it wasn't even the first place they went to post-Thriller Bark.
And the reason for the Florian Triangle not being on that map is easy. The map is about showing us where exactly Impel Down is in comparison to other important places along with the Florian Triangle not being near those locations.
They went from the Enies Lobby side of that triangle to the Sabaody side of that triangle, leaving the Florian Triangle just before getting to Sabaody, but it wasn't the triangle in that map? You think there are two giant triangle-shaped areas of crazy currents right next to each other? And only one of them is on that map for some reason, and people only mentioned the Florian Triangle and neglected to mention the other huge triangle area that's also right next to where they were going?
Who says they're even near each other.
The Florian Triangle simply is nowhere nearby hence it wouldn't be on that map.
Another thing showing the Florian Triangle's currents
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/File:FlorianTriangle.pngYou're actually using the wikia as a source…
lol.
As for the Momonga point; well of course the arrows on the map aren't showing the exact currents. It's just representing that there are some unusual and noticeable currents in that area.
Just like the rest of the Grand Line. What's your point
What makes that area different is the lack of a strong wind similar to the Calm Belt.
To be fair, I'm not trying to make this point out to be like "how do you not realise this?" I actually can see where you're coming from because, for one thing, it does seem odd that Oda (via one of the characters) hasn't labelled that sea as the Florian Triangle if it is indeed meant to be. I mean, you'd think that someone would have pointed out how the marines use the edge of the infamous Florian Triangle to travel between Enies Lobby, Impel Down and Marineford. That said, if it isn't the Florian Triangle, then the sea must be like this, considering where they travel from and where they end up:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3664/ychubx4z.th.jpgIt's not odd at all…that area simply isn't the Florian Triangle.
Ignoring things we've been told in the comic itself in favor of your drawing isn't a good thing to do for obvious reasons.
The black lines starting from Water 7 are two examples of possible router they would have travelled when going from Water 7, through the Florian Triangle (wherever it is) and ending up near to Sabaody, by the Red Line.
Your little map doesn't really help anything.
Especially since they never headed straight to there.
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I'm currently having a bit problems accessing Stephen's site so I hope somebody else could help me out with it. But what exactly does Stephen say in chapter 101 when speaking about the conditions in the Calm Belt? Is he specifically mentioning the lack of currents or just the wind? I know the anime mentions the lack of currents but I'm just not sure about the manga, so some help would be appreciated here.
Furthermore in chapter 376 what exactly does Kokoro say about the conditions within the Tarai current? Just curious because inc chapter 549 Luffy's battleship within the current pretty much seemed to always have wind in its sails:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/549/10/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/549/11/
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Well, in chapter 101, the Calm Belt is described as an windless stretch of ocean which breeds all kinds of Sea Kings (no word of currents). But in chapter 376 where Kokoro explains the conditions of the Tarai Current she only says that it's "a shtretch of water like the Calm Belt which holdsh all kindsa Sea Monsters". So, maybe the comparison with the Calm Belt only refers to the Sea Kings but not the windlessness. Dunno.
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Thanks Coookie, I knew I remembered that the weather conditions weren't said to be like those within the Calm Belt and that only the Seakings are what they have in common. Just couldn't check it.
Well, so no error in anything at all. Though I do wonder how those battleships around Impel Down sailed without any currents respectively wind. Momonga's ship was so far the only battleship we've seen to have those paddles (or whatever the correct term for them is) to make it move within the Calm Belt.
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But isn't the precise reason seakings populate the Calm Belt is because of the weather conditions for breeding purposes. Why would there be a mass of seakings within that area in conjunction with comparisons to the Calm Belt made if they weren't similar?
EDIT: Anyway, Ivotas maybe the ships that don't have those paddles carry really big oars that the marine grunts bring out whenever needed? Like how Luffy and co. used some when they accidentally entered the Calm Belt before going up Reverse Mountain.
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But in that case should we, well see them? None of those ships seems to have any special equipment making them able to move. A mistake on Oda's part?
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Probably yeah.
Would you mind showing me a panel of those paddles that you say are on Momonga's ship? I think I'm just looking in the wrong chapters or something since I don't really know what you mean, at least in comparison to other ships.
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Of course. This is what I was talking about (sorry if the term padle is wrong but I simply don't know the correct term):
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/523/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/524/13/Seeing it that those things were hidden before Momonga's ship began moving within the Calm Belt aswell as them disappearing again when they've entered the Tarai current I expect them to be some sort of transformation divice (like with Channel 0 for Thousand Sunny).
So my problem is not that we see any of those other battleships having them for the most time. My problem is that we don't see them when the battleships are chasing Luffy's team within the Calm Belt. Somehow all those battleships are supposed to move aren't they? But I can't seem to find those thingies on them Momonga's ship had, so the question remains how they do it.
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Ah those.
Yeah it's likely just a mistake on Oda's part.
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A wizard did it.
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In which chapter croc said that he was once like Luffy? Can't find it anymore
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ive just read again, chapter 99, there the act when luffy is about to be "executed" by buggy.. and then saw the thunder part.. the one that actually saving luffy from being "cut".
although i don't see that'll be coming, not in that kind of stupid situation of course… XD
question is... is that really a coincidence or it was.. ... .....
DRAGON's DOING??!! .. if that's true than OMG Dragon has the same ability as eneru hahhah..
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Well, the ability can't be exactly the same since there's only one of each devil fruit but I'm sure many can be very similar.
Dragon was on that island to at the same time, at the end when Luffy was leaving Dragon helps him escape.
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so u notice that too.. a usual thunder doesn't strike at a perfect moment and a perfect spot… there must be some link with dragon..
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Well, it could be that Buggy was holding an axe above his head, making it very likely for lighting to hit him…
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could kinshiki be an emperor? oda wrote that when whitebeard was going on about the old age people left alive he was planning on having whitebeard mention Kinjishi but doesn't that mean that Kinjishi is still an active pirate in the world in order for whitebeard to mention him? either he is an emperor or perhaps he is allied with one of the other emperors?
Well, it could be that Buggy was holding an axe above his head, making it very likely for lighting to hit him…
would be a funny way for buggy to get defrosted if he was hit with lightning again. i bet the prisoners would then be saying buggy summoned lightning so he could escape and be in even more awe of him.
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would be a funny way for buggy to get defrosted if he was hit with lightning again. i bet the prisoners would then be saying buggy summoned lightning so he could escape and be in even more awe of him.
Oh, no, no. I was talking about the time Buggy got struck br lighting just before he lopped Luffy's head off at Loguetown.
In a war, with giants wielding swords and other pieces of metal and possibly at least one of them holding it over his/her head at any given time, not forgetting all the other shards of metal flying around makes this case of Buggy being defrosted by lighting very unlikely.
And I don't think he's carrying an axe this time.
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ive just read again, chapter 99, there the act when luffy is about to be "executed" by buggy.. and then saw the thunder part.. the one that actually saving luffy from being "cut".
although i don't see that'll be coming, not in that kind of stupid situation of course… XD
question is... is that really a coincidence or it was.. ... .....
DRAGON's DOING??!! .. if that's true than OMG Dragon has the same ability as eneru hahhah..
I pondered on that lightning thing which happened in Loguetown years ago and I have one wild guess.
Dragon is a wind or air logia (it's different from Smoker's smoke :-,). This seems to be what the Loguetwon chapter is suggesting though we're not really quite sure yet. Assuming it is indeed wind logia, then he may be able control the weather. If Dragon forces tremendous air convection, he can produce both warm and cool wind currents. He can electrically charge his wind this way too and this can cause lightnings.
This is a wild guess. I thought this after i realized Nami's Clima-Tact basically combines air bubbles of different properties so she can create clouds, rain, thunder, lightning, etc. These are just air bubbles. It's logical IMO to think that the one having the air/wind logia can control the weather as well.
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I pondered on that lightning thing which happened in Loguetown years ago and I have one wild guess.
Dragon is a wind or air logia (it's different from Smoker's smoke :-,). This seems to be what the Loguetwon chapter is suggesting though we're not really quite sure yet. Assuming it is indeed wind logia, then he may be able control the weather. If Dragon forces tremendous air convection, he can produce both warm and cool wind currents. He can electrically charge his wind this way too and this can cause lightnings.
This is a wild guess. I thought this after i realized Nami's Clima-Tact basically combines air bubbles of different properties so she can create clouds, rain, thunder, lightning, etc. These are just air bubbles. It's logical IMO to think that the one having the air/wind logia can control the weather as well.
i think maybe dragon has the weather logia. it makes sense since he was able to summon both lightning and wind. would be the ultimate logia too. you can summon wind,lightning,water and ice.
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No one can tell me where I can find that Croc mentioned, that he was once like Luffy?
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I'm guessing that it was just fate that that lightning struck there, like what Auger and Mihawk believe in. Luffy couldn't die there.