Check chapter 485, Kuma is seen a million and one times without that blasted bible. So far evidence points to this Kuma being the real one.
Chapter 558 "Little Brother" Discussion
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Jimbei is really a great ally… A ally like that shouldn't be left behind in the future
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As far as Kuma isnt talking we can suspect everything…maybe Vegapunk found out that he was a Dragon"s spy and erased his memory.
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I hope we will see more VAdmirals in action (Giant, Dobberman, Onigumo etc) more NW captains (Makugai, Ice beach, Squardo) and commanders of course.
i am fine how things are going. if you want to see every mentioned character in a manga fight then go read bleach. forgive me if i dont' want one piece ruined by watching 50 fights
edit: there is plenty of one piece left to see them later on
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Hmmm… what if the Kuma who shot lasers to Ivankov isn't the same Kuma of the Ursa Shock? I mean, all marine forces are there except Pacifistas... and this is very strange! Maybe one of the PX has finally showed up... (we don't see the bible in any panel of this chapter...)
Or maybe Kuma has just got some hidden reasons we don't know, as usual XDKuma is a Pacisfista!!!!
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/485/09/The PX thing is probably replica of him or something like that.
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My guess is that Kuma is homophobic and wanted to nuke Ivankov "accidentaly" in order to not work with him again.
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i am fine how things are going. if you want to see every mentioned character in a manga fight then go read bleach. forgive me if i dont' want one piece ruined by watching 50 fights
Whether u like it or not all those guys are high tiers and they are supposed to play some kind of role in this whole thing. They werent introduced for nothing…and stop comparing this manga with bleach because we are watching a war here which is much more than just 1 on 1 fights.
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it kind of seems Kuma attacked but probably knew ikanov would of avoided it espically if they were old friends. This really aids the theroy that Kuma is either a revolutionary spy or at least an ex-revolutionary. But there's still a lot more to happen in this arc i think, i imagine we'll see sengoku's master plan in the next chapter that will change the tide of the war
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Wow, great chapter ^^! Love seeing Luffy running around recklessly.
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Kay, I read the chapter. Luffy is not playing around; he is going to try his hardest to save Ace. Whitebead and Jinbei are great allies because they are so powerful….but how is the Luffy team going to get past uber guys like Kizaru and Kuma?
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Another good chapter.
We see why Luffy didn't even once mention that Ace isn't his real brother. Also, apparently it wasn't common knowledge that Luffy was Dragon's son :silly: . Moria raising zombies, Kuma firing his laser, all kinds of awesome. I want to see more of Doflamingo though.
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The evidence of Kuma being a revolutionary only keeps growing…
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So, after reading the new chapter, I assume that the real Kuma isn't there since the Pacifist just shot a lazor out of its mouth. Which bring up the question, where is the real Kuma….
Good chapter all together though!
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So, after reading the new chapter, I assume that the real Kuma isn't there since the Pacifist just shot a lazor out of its mouth. Which bring up the question, where is the real Kuma….
Good chapter all together though!
Lmao I think half the fandom erased the end of TB from their minds. XD
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So, after reading the new chapter, I assume that the real Kuma isn't there since the Pacifist just shot a lazor out of its mouth. Which bring up the question, where is the real Kuma….
Good chapter all together though!
Kuma can shoot lasers too.
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Whether u like it or not all those guys are high tiers and they are supposed to play some kind of role in this whole thing. They werent introduced for nothing…and stop comparing this manga with bleach because we are watching a war here which is much more than just 1 on 1 fights.
I'm comparing it to bleach because I don't want it to be like bleach. If you get what you want and we see all these people do stuff it will take forever. hell it would take an entire chapter just to show small panals of everyones reaction to luffy's dads news. There are just too many people.
I expect all we will see of Hina this whole war was just that right now. I don't expect to see her anymore. Who knows if we will see Whitey Bey or any of the other new world captains that were shown do anything either. They were shown and now its our imagination to have them partaking in this war. But they are not the protagonists.
Its like were watching a football game. Luffy and whitebeard are the QB and RB. Marco and couple others like Recievers. We will be mainly watching Luffy and whitebeard, and once in a while a pass. The new world captains and rest of commanders and shit are the lineman and other guys. We may catch a glimpse of a block or something, but no one is paying attention to them. I don't want to watch a chapter showing what the center did during one play, then show what the left tackle did during that play, then ect… We have to assume that they are keeping the defense preocupied and doing there job, we don't need to see it. If they weren't then the running back would get nowhere. Keep the pace going and don't standstill to show many characters.
Hell think of enies lobby, i mean it seemed like luffy was fighting lucci for forever, yet if you put it all in a row with no interuptions it last only a few chapters instead of like 20, because it is showing what 7 other people are doing at that exact same time
The only long fight i see possible besides watching what luffy is doing is the deciding battle for whether whitebeard lives or dies.
Edit: and if you feel like my posts are long, how about you name each person on each side that we know about. you know there names like
Smoker
Hina
Marco
ect..Now that would be a long ass post and prove my point
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@Kairouseki:
Kuma can shoot lasers too.
Oops, my mistake, I keep remembering the Sabody. Ignore my input then
@lelandcaster : Your right, I probably did erase it, XD
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Thanks for the translation!
I think this chapter was wonderful. I wonder what Garp will do now. And d'awww at Luffy and Ace. That brotherly love they have for each other even if they are not blood related is so danged cute. Rofl at Buggy :'D And wh00t at Marco! 8D Can't wait for the next chappter
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I agree with a lot of what Hinsher said we won't see a lot of the characters but there are a few that will have to be seen and have thier 30 secs of fame again before this arc is over
-Ao kiji (How does he keep disappearing for chapters?)
-Akainu
-Crocodile
-Joz
-Mr 1 + Mr3
-Buggy to do something
-Probably BB and his crew sometime
-Possibly inuzama i think he will recover and play some part
-The rest of the shickibukai
-I imagine Garp will do something aswell
-I also beleive we will see Sengoku fight but only briefly
I may of missed some important ones but that's what i can think of now and that's still a lot of cameos -
it's an awesome chapter =D … but didn't anyone notice, crocodile was not involved in any panel during this chapter, i wonder where he is, since there was a panel with WB and Luffy talking and crocodile is not around ... maybe e's planning for something =P
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Mihawk has the best line ever.
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I'm really curious to know where Crocodile has gotten to and what he's planning. Maybe he's how Whitebeard dies.
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He's probably trying to sneak up behind Whitebeard again .
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so, Kuma almost definitely associated with the revolutionaries in the past?
Also, Jimbei is gonna chew Moria up and spit him out. sea water > any zombie ever. :|
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Got bored so decided to post the list (it may be incomplete)
Whitebeard Pirates
- Whitebeard
- Division Commander 01#: Marco
- Division Commander 02#: Portgas D. Ace
- Division Commander 03#: Jozu
- Division Commander 04#: Thatch (deceased)
- Division Commander 05#: Unknown
- Division Commander 06#: Unknown
- Division Commander 07#: Unknown
- Division Commander 08#: Unknown
- Division Commander 09#: Unknown
- Division Commander 10#: Unknown
- Division Commander 11#: Unknown
- Division Commander 12#: Unknown
- Division Commander 13#: Atomos
- Division Commander 14#: Unknown
- Division Commander 15#: Unknown
- Division Commander 16#: Unknown
Whitebeard Allies
- Makugai
- Doma
- Decalvan Brothers (that’s two captains)
- Squardo
- Oars Jr. (deceased)
- Whitey Bay
- Unknown Captain #1 (has picture shown)
- Unknown Captain #2 (has picture shown)
- Unknown Captain #3 (has picture shown)
- Unknown Captain #4 (has picture shown)
- Unknown Captain 11-43 (no picture)
Luffy’s Prison group
- Luffy
- Jimbei
- Iva
- Crocodile
- Buggy
- Mr. 3
Marines
- Fleet Admiral Sengoku
- Admiral Aikanu
- Admiral Aokiji
- Admiral Kizaru
- Vice Admiral Garp
- Vice Admiral Tsuru
- Vice Admiral John Giant
- Vice Admiral Komir
- Vice Admiral Momonga
- Vice Admiral Onigumo
- Vice Admiral Doberman
- Vice Admiral Strawberry
- Vice Admiral Yamakaji
- Vice Admiral Lacroix
- Vice Admiral Ronse (taken out)
- Commodore Smoker
- Giant Squad (remaining)
- Captain Hina
- Captain T-Bone
- Ensign Tashigi
- Chief Petty Officer Coby
- Petty Officer Helmeppo
- Seaman Recruit Fullbody
- Seaman Recruit Jango
- Remaining Vice Admirals in that spread
Shichibukai
- Boa Hancock
- Gecko Moria
- Bartholomew Kuma
- Donquixote Doflamingo
- Juracule Mihawk
Well there ya go. I only counted CAPTAINS for the pirates of whitebeard and allies. So they each have their own crew, and imagine if they are people who made a name for themselves they obviously have at least 1 or two decent men in their crew besides captain. And then people with names. I'm sure i'm missing a few and you can add if you notice.
So now have fun reading the manga if you want to see all their fights, tell me when Aizen finished up his illusion and kills them all and then i'll start reading one piece again.
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Hm?! Who now shouted that out ("Luffy is Dragons son") was it Sengoku or Garp? I don't get it .. no matter how often I look at the pages [..]
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It was Sengoku over his loudspeaker snail.
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Hm?! Who now shouted that out ("Luffy is Dragons son") was it Sengoku or Garp? I don't get it .. no matter how often I look at the pages [..]
sengoku, look he has the den den mushi in his hand speaking out to everyone
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I'm still not 100% positive that is Kuma. I know he can do basically the same abilities the Pacifista have + Ursa Shock (which we saw him do 3 chapters ago) but what Ivanokov said is kinda troubling. Its like she/he wasn't expecting Kuma to do that 'even' at the risk of losing his shichibukai status. I agree with what someone else said, I think the other Pacifista are starting to enter the foray and that might have been what Sengoku was waiting for to be ready and in position. The real Kuma should still be there but since they look damn near exactly the same you can't really tell unless you see his hands or uses Ursa powers or has his bible. By the way im 70% sure it is the real kuma, but something is just nagging me thinking we can't say absolutely sure it is him because of how similar he is to his 'brothers'.
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anyone thinks that shanks will show up?
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anyone thinks that shanks will show up?
If Luffy wasn't there, then I would say hell yeah. It might be too soon for those two to meet though.
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I'm really curious to know where Crocodile has gotten to and what he's planning. Maybe he's how Whitebeard dies.
This post reminded me, one thing I'm noticing is Oda seems to be having trouble fitting all these character into every chapter. Or rather, he fits so many in that some just aren't included.
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I believe Crocodile was captured by Whitebeard's crew after Luffy stopped his attempt to kill him so he is probably still on Whitebeard's ship
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the picture is small but it is second picture from the right of the little pictures second row
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I really doubt that he was captured. They appear to be just trying to hold him back from Whitebeard.
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well they have spears (or maybe swords) covering him and a gun pointed at him so I think that usually means captured to me ;) but you may be right they may just be holding him back
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kuma being the px kind of making sence,cos he is hte only shibukai he didnt talked during luffy entrance,u expect him to say something especially after he told luffy they will never meet again,but then again who knows,might be kuma or maybe px.
and i dont think shanks will come,dragon coming will make much more sence,its his son after all.
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crawling on the groundmust….have...more.... reaching for thin air must...thank.......beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppp
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Such an Epic chapter, it was so epic.
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nice chapter! is the giant that luffy hit a vice admiral >
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Oh yea all who thought Luffy would get raped in this war are off since WB won't allow his death. He'll probably be bailed out of the majority of deadly attacks.
Wouldn't be surprised if Jimbei died by the hands of Akainu just to save Luffy lol. I hope.
The pacifistas haven't entered yet. That was Kuma. The pacifistas talk more than Kuma we'd be able to tell if it were them. I'm still troubled that they all look like Kuma. I wonder if Vegapunk has completed the pacifistas and they all look completely different?
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Well, Kuma said that he was incomplete, and X. Drake was surprised to see them shoot Kizaru's lasers. So they are probably an ongoing project to which we will see some more improvements and different forms.
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I think there's a reasonable chance that Crocodile will die. I just can't imagine what more he'll bring to the story. We've got almost everything out of him from Oda (except his link with WB). His motives are strange (he doesn't care for the WG, Luffy or WB), so whatever he does in the war will probably be either very small or something quite big (resulting in a death?)
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I didn't know the chapter was out this early at (OM), the chapter was excellent, as always. Buggy is one funny character, this guy is just halirious. i really need that panel where WB and Luffy are talking, i need to make a lineart out of it. Everyone is talking about luffy, his only a captain, but it seem's like his been known through out the whole sea of OP.
Ace must be feeling ashame that his littl bro, is going to rescue him, i know how he feels, but i can also understand luffy's reason's for doing it too, he just doesn't want him to die is that simply.
Kizaru is out for luffy's blood, man his a ruthless admiral.
Sengoke = always reveals the big info about the pirates, someone need to reveal his past to the whole world as well.:getlost:
WB is just kool with those lines…. Marco i won't for give you if you let that boy die) EPIC.
next should be be another masterpiece from oda.
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@$abZ:
I think there's a reasonable chance that Crocodile will die. I just can't imagine what more he'll bring to the story. We've got almost everything out of him from Oda (except his link with WB). His motives are strange (he doesn't care for the WG, Luffy or WB), so whatever he does in the war will probably be either very small or something quite big (resulting in a death?)
well you have a point, but if he does survive this war, oda could develop him more, since he wants to find (pluton)
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thats true,kuma also did his ursus shock on oz junior,and thats a move only the real kuma does,so thats probably the real kuma.
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I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Ace is being a real bitch.
Yes, Luffy. Don't save Ace. Ace wants his true savior to save him.
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^Let it haunt your nightmares.
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@$abZ:
I think there's a reasonable chance that Crocodile will die. I just can't imagine what more he'll bring to the story. We've got almost everything out of him from Oda (except his link with WB). His motives are strange (he doesn't care for the WG, Luffy or WB), so whatever he does in the war will probably be either very small or something quite big (resulting in a death?)
Nah, Oda doesn't kill characters just because they don't bring anything to the story at the current time (and he very well might in the future; you never know). I hate the guy but I don't see him dying.
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Nah, Oda doesn't kill characters just because they don't bring anything to the story at the current time (and he very well might in the future; you never know). I hate the guy but I don't see him dying.
Yeah you'e right that Oda hasn't done that, but surely the manga is going to get darker. I just think that Oda needs to kill off some big names (a VA or two, and maybe a NW captain aswell) just to make the war a bit more realistic. It'd be strange to not see more than one big name fall in the war… it is a war after all.
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well i for one must say that i think that this chapter has proved the people who said luffy would contribute nothing wrong he's already made a break and tAken out a giant which some may say isn't much but it seems to me to be a big help…. i mean a giant is still pretty tough and i think white beard is conserving his strength until the final battle against the big names (shichibukai and admirals) so i think luffy's done good and i think he'll do more next chapter
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I'll say it once and I'll say it again, Ace is being a real bitch.
Yes, Luffy. Don't save Ace. Ace wants his true savior to save him.
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^Let it haunt your nightmares.
I don't have a problem with the things Ace said. He just wants to protect Luffy.