WB for nakama, i'm fucking serious.
Chapter 553 "Battle of the Highest" Discussion
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I wonder why WB changed his old mark to the new boring one.
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Pressure for some people thinking Whitebeard was a Nazi. I love how the swastika looks, too bad the Nazis made it practically unusable :sad: .
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@Kairouseki:
Pressure for some people thinking Whitebeard was a Nazi. I love how the swastika looks, too bad the Nazis made it practically unusable :sad: .
I swear, doesn't ichigo's bankai use the swastika, well looks alot like it.
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I swear, doesn't ichigo's bankai use the swastika, well looks alot like it.
The hilt/guard does look like it when he releases to bankai but it's not lol
People just don't know the difference from the Hindu/Buddhist symbol and the Nazi one which was tilted at a 45 degree angle.
Shame really, I doubt Oda adding the four dots would've helped.
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I think what he was saying is that the Japanese word for Bankai has the kanji 卍 in it. I heard a story somewhere where a Jewish family ordered some things from China and it contained a stuffed bear with a swastika on it. They sued the company for antisemitism :ermm::pouty::sad:
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@Zik:
The hilt/guard does look like it when he releases to bankai but it's not lol
People just don't know the difference from the Hindu/Buddhist symbol and the Nazi one which was tilted at a 45 degree angle.
Shame really, I doubt Oda adding the four dots would've helped.
The hilt does look like it though.
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I swear, doesn't ichigo's bankai use the swastika, well looks alot like it.
The word "Bankai" itself is a manji (asian swastika).
"卍解"
As for the topic of swastikas/manji:
If you look at any Japanese maps (and Chinese also, I assume), temples are indicated with a manji. Manji is a holy symbol that we've been using for thousands of years in Buddhism (And hindu) influenced areas. Germans are total noobs compared to us, and it's very irritating when Westerners tell us to stop using it.
Our position on the matter is, "we've been using it for thousands of years, why the hell should we stop using it because some douchebags from YOUR culture twisted its meanings?"
Imagine some asian originated extremist terrorist cult group using Christian symbols massacred people in Asia, and asians start telling the westerners "stop using the cross as your holy symbol". That's exactly how we feel about swastika.
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Imagine some asian originated extremist terrorist cult group using Christian symbols massacred people in Asia, and asians start telling the westerners "stop using the cross as your holy symbol". That's exactly how we feel about swastika.
Not ALL Christians believe in the cross…but I definitely see what your saying....
It's all crazyness I tell you. So many damn feelings you don't wanna hurt but in the end...it's inevitable...
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WB For Nakama? HELL YEAH but im sure Oda will tell you "HELL NO!"...besides...what good will a dead man bring to the SH (Brooke aside)...?
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I'm glad Blade of the Immortal had a little educational blurb on that when it was released in the States, I can imagine the fuss raised about Manji.
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@Steven:
I'm glad Blade of the Immortal had a little educational blurb on that when it was released in the States, I can imagine the fuss raised about Manji.
Crazyness…
It's "kind of" like how here in NYC (and other gang populated cities/states) people have to think twice about wearing Red, Blue, or Black/Gold through certain hoods....cause if your wearing alot of red and some Bloods shout out "What's poppin' Blood?" and you don't know what to say or what salute to give....you gettin' cut.
Why do we have to change our assortment of colors so we can avoid gang violence? These colors have been out for centuries before any of there great great great............grandmothers were born....
All I gotta say is fuck what everyone else thinks, you do you and what YOU do...people who are offended have deeper issues to solve than having an issue with you.
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Robin's jolly roger.
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@Sir:
Robin's jolly roger.
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Manji hands, never noticed that before.
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"white"beard and the swastika sign had the whole white supremacy thing going on and all…...it would have never passed in the usa. since usa is a valuable market, changing the sign is no biggie.
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It's not like the US didn't change Whitebeard's sign anyway. They could have kept it the same in Japan and the US could still have changed it. But it seems people in Japan didn't like the swastika either :ermm: .
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Funny how an Indian Religious symbol becomes something considered heinous because of a German Political Party and their usage of it during mass persecution, even though it had been around for over 4000 years. And as a result, its Asian Equivalent (the Manji) gets a bad rap, too.
For the record, Ichigo's Bankai still has the Manji hilt. Bleach has the same target audience as One Piece and no one complains about that.
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Yeah, that's just hilarious. :wassat:
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Oh, I got the sarcasm, that was my subtle and less boring way of saying "poor choice of words".
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I'm very sorry if I insulted anyone, I've known about the manji since I noticed the whitebeards tatto change, I should have been smarter to know ichigo's hilt was a manji too, again I'm very sorry.
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@Kairouseki:
It's not like the US didn't change Whitebeard's sign anyway. They could have kept it the same in Japan and the US could still have changed it. But it seems people in Japan didn't like the swastika either :ermm: .
I seriously doubt it was complatins from Japanese, we use Manji all the time in our everyday life.
It would be impossible to live in Japan without getting offended everyday if that was the case.
You'd be offended everytime you open a map, see a city guide at the station, or walk by a temple.More likely it was a "precaution" move to not offend sensitive foreigners when and if OP gets an audience outside.
I'm very sorry if I insulted anyone, I've known about the manji since I noticed the whitebeards tatto change, I should have been smarter to know ichigo's hilt was a manji too, again I'm very sorry.
No one's mad at you or insulted, I was just throwing in my input on the swastika usages overall.
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Oh yeah, chapter 553…
Jose is still at large.
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Jose el Diamante? I'm gonna go check out the Spanish scans to see if they use it.
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I'm wondering if Joz is a become/control or a create/control paramecia-type Power User.
Hopefully it's the former since it's been a decent while since there's been one of those and diamondman would be a good way to start it again.
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Okay, looked at 3 groups' Spanish scans. One uses Jozu, another uses Jaws, and the other uses Mandíbulas .
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I'm going with former. Being able to just poop out diamonds at will would ruin the economy.
Clearly the Spanish scans are wrong, except for maybe Mandibulas. Jose Mandibulas has a nice ring to it.
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I'm wondering if Joz is a become/control or a create/control paramecia-type Power User.
Hopefully it's the former since it's been a decent while since there's been one of those and diamondman would be a good way to start it again.
He more than likely is the former considering half of his body became diamond, I don't think he created diamond then instantly encrusted half of his body in diamond armor.
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So Gokudera do you make a habit of liking the absolute worst characters in series, Sai, Perona, is your favorite Bleach character Hitsugaya? Favorite Dragonball character Yamcha?
Nothing is wrong with Perona :wassat:
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horohorohorohoro
HOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHORO!
Someone post that video with Perona laughing for like 5 minutes straight.
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I'm going with former. Being able to just poop out diamonds at will would ruin the economy.
Clearly the Spanish scans are wrong, except for maybe Mandibulas. Jose Mandibulas has a nice ring to it.
Joze "El Diamante" Mandibulas sounds like a badass Lucha Libre ring name.
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@Kairouseki:
HOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHORO!
Someone post that video with Perona laughing for like 5 minutes straight.
Is it sad that I would actually watch it?
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Joze "El Diamante" Mandibulas sounds like a badass Lucha Libre ring name.
I waked up and still no spoiler =(((((((((
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@Kairouseki:
HOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHOROHORO!
Someone post that video with Perona laughing for like 5 minutes straight.
Sometimes when I'm watching Thriller Bark episodes, I have to pause it to make sure that nobody is killing a cat.
Joze "El Diamante" Mandibulas sounds like a badass Lucha Libre ring name.
Yes! I can't believe the Spanish aren't translating it as Jose, what lame-o's.
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There you go. Sadly it's only 2:30 long. Anyone else notice the 8D in the code ? -
Hopefully some spoilers will come in later. I'm betting the title page will be Brook. I'm agreeing with everyone else about Oda saving Zoro/Perona's last.
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I'm betting the title page will be part 2 of Chopper. I'm a bit confused how you could think otherwise.
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He believes that Sanji will get more than 2 pages too…
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I'm betting the title page will be part 2 of Chopper. I'm a bit confused how you could think otherwise.
You're probally right. I don't really care for Chopper's story but oh well.
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Consider it to be fangirl riot prevention if nothing else. It's the same reason that Ace wont die.
Also, nobody cares about Sanji. :ninja:
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prediction: 4.5 hours till spoilers.
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He believes that Sanji will get more than 2 pages too…
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/544/01/
Sanji's hasn't ended yet. Look at Robin,Usopp,and Franky's stories and you'll notice they say say conclusion.
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to go to bed without spoilers, a tragedy.
to wake up to spoilers, the high point of my week.
heres hoping..
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http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/544/01/
Sanji's hasn't ended yet. Look at Robin,Usopp,and Franky's stories and you'll notice they say say conclusion.
That's a good catch and a solid basis for your argument. It's also possible that Oda just didn't think to do it with the first cover story and then started including it after that. Who knows, though, you may be right.
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It's still no reason to think Chopper isn't going to get his second cover though…
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Oh yeah, I totally agree, if Sanji gets an extra cover it'll be after everyone else gets theirs.
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I really don't have any reasons why Chopper wouldn't be on the next cover. I'm just hoping it will be someone new. I know this is totally random but what ever happened to Don Krieg?
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Diamond Jaws, reminds me so much of James Bond and the uber huge character Jaws with the metal grill in his mouth.
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Joze "El Diamante" Mandibulas sounds like a badass Lucha Libre ring name.
do you guys know that "mandibulas" is "jaws", right? They just translated the sound of his name.
And I think Jaws is a good bet, seeing as how that's more nautical than Joz or Joze or w/e.
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@They:
Diamond Jaws, reminds me so much of James Bond and the uber huge character Jaws with the metal grill in his mouth.
strange.this guy reminds me of him
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Axe-Hand_Morgan