Blackbeard isn't going down anytime soon. Not this arc or the next.
Also, lol at "9 floors"
Blackbeard isn't going down anytime soon. Not this arc or the next.
Also, lol at "9 floors"
ps: how do you know those pirates? did you look them up or do you really actually know this stuff
Well, I know some of the more famous ones already. Edward Teach, Bartholomew Roberts, and so on. Others I just look up. One particularly useful source is Time Life's The Mariners: The Pirates.
@Al!naJames:
And what do you have for San-Juan and Catherina? I had some research as well but I'm not sure~
The best guess I can make for Devon is that she's named after the Australian pirate Catherine Hagerty. Devon might come from Devonport, Australia which isn't all that far from where she and other convicts (including another future female pirate Charlotte Badger) were being sent.
Far as San Juan goes, well, that part is easy. San Juan, Puerto Rico was heavily targeted by pirates during the 16th century.
It's the Wolf that's harder to pin down. It might be a reference to the Sea Wolf nickname for pirates or it might be something less generic.
Yeah. People say that the mist monsters were never going to reappear.
I think that it will, but not until Erbaf comes into the story.
Also, lol at "9 floors"
If you include the towers that rise above the outer walls, there probably are that many floors in Impel Down.
He meant, and I should have said, LEVELs
Vongola_Boss_XI
I doubt he could rock the world with 3 more members to a powerful crew
Why doubt this? With 3 new uber crew mates his crew will begin to resemble a Yonkou crew who seem to have three notable crewmates besides the captain(we'll see if the pattern continues with Kaidou) each. Even more so if he recruits the grunt looking level 6 fighters as a start-up fleet.
With such a powerful crew backing him he can easily fill the void left by WB's defeat. With the Marines and WB fleet in shambles, Shichibukai going their separate ways, and Kaidou&Shanks crew keeping each other at bay there would be no huge force to stop him from continuing to climb the ladder. Seems like a great reason to raid the prison though I'm sure there will be some twist we can't foresee to Teach's motives.
The theory Shiryuu will not join BB but blame Magellan for the entire situation, taking his position, makes more sense. Throwing off the 9 vs 9 scenario. Same scenario people thought would go down in SA. How long until this is merged with the General Blackbeard thread?
2 chapters they will be here
The theory Shiryuu will not join BB but blame Magellan for the entire situation, taking his position, makes more sense. Throwing off the 9 vs 9 scenario. Same scenario people thought would go down in SA.
Well, everything he did 'til now hints toward it. He still looks at Impel Down as his property and was shown to hold a grudge against pirates.
Not every bad guy in One Piece ends up as a pirate.
You're not telling me this are you?
I guess I did.
I'm tired.
He was a death row inmate. Regardless of wether or not Magellan is to blame, I hardly see him as worthy of guarding the prison even in the World Government's eyes. I think he's leaving Impel Down with Blackbeard.
I'm just saying, it makes no sense really if all Blackbeard wanted was three powerful people. I mean, if he goes into the New World to become a Yonkou, he looses his title as Shichibukai….you have to think his big plan involves the title Shichibukai. Why would he even need a shichibukai title to get three powerful people to join him? Couldn't he simply invade Impel Down on his own? =/
I don't see why you all think it's so ridiculous to think Gasp Oda's keeping secrets about Impel Down still. I mean, level 6 wasn't exactly a secret, given Ivankov and others knew about it. More importantly, it sits above the sea floor....there must be some kind of foundation in the bedrock. It's quite possible there are three levels below the sea floor. I mean, the Prison certainly isn't just resting on top of the ground.
I suppose we'll see, but everyone seems to think Blackbeard is simply going to become a Yonkou...I just don't see it. I mean, think about this, he wanted Luffy, not Ace. The Whitebeard War wasn't originally part of his plan. Thus, he was going after something that could kill even Whitebeard. Is it really three people or would something more powerful be required to take down the World's Strongest Man?
Blackbeard wouldn't be able to pass through the New World like a normal Pirate as a Shichibukai, he'd have to have a plan to go straight for One Piece. Thus, he's quite a pertinent threat to Luffy's dream. He can get to Raftel much faster than Luffy with World Government resources....thus he's not as much a rival as someone like Kid or Law.
In addition to all of this, the big fight on Raftel for the title of Pirate King should really be more of a rival / antithesis to Luffy. Blackbeard, on the other hand, is the antithesis to Whitebeard, thus I don't really see him as a suitable final rival for the title of Pirate King. I mean, no matter what, I seriously doubt that Raftel will be the final arc....the final arc will most likely be taking down the World Government itself....so I would assume either the Gorousei or the top fighters the World Governmnet has will be the real final opponents / villains of the entire series.
Why doubt this? With 3 new uber crew mates his crew will begin to resemble a Yonkou crew who seem to have three notable crewmates besides the captain(we'll see if the pattern continues with Kaidou) each. Even more so if he recruits the grunt looking level 6 fighters as a start-up fleet.
Agreed. If they really are among the Silver Medalists that have been said to have lost only against Roger and Newgate, then they pretty much should be able to put on a show the world has never seen before. Especially if they are teamed up with Teach.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
He was a death row inmate. Regardless of wether or not Magellan is to blame, I hardly see him as worthy of guarding the prison even in the World Government's eyes. I think he's leaving Impel Down with Blackbeard.
They have employed people like Spandam and marines like Onigumo&Akainu you think the WG is above hiring a psychotic but capable person to run their prison?Think they'd think look down more on the man who let a mass riot happen on his watch than another who simply butchered some bad people they don't care about to begin with on his.
I'm just saying, it makes no sense really if all Blackbeard wanted was three powerful people. I mean, if he goes into the New World to become a Yonkou, he looses his title as Shichibukai….you have to think his big plan involves the title Shichibukai. Why would he even need a shichibukai title to get three powerful people to join him? Couldn't he simply invade Impel Down on his own? =/
Not at all. How exactly do you expect 5 pirates with no support to get past the calm belt in a shitty ship,then break in through the front door and make their way all the way down to level 6 without getting attention from the marines. Main reason he wanted the Shichibukai title was probably to get past the calm belt and be allowed to dock. It really makes no sense to you that BB would want to recruit extremely powerful pirates with a grudge against WB in his crew to help him on his path to PK?
I don't see why you all think it's so ridiculous to think Gasp Oda's keeping secrets about Impel Down still. I mean, level 6 wasn't exactly a secret, given Ivankov and others knew about it. More importantly, it sits above the sea floor….there must be some kind of foundation in the bedrock. It's quite possible there are three levels below the sea floor. I mean, the Prison certainly isn't just resting on top of the ground.
I admitted in m post that there could be a secret unforeseen motive none of us can guess. However you're basically just spouting fanfiction with no basis at all in the manga. That is whats a little ridiculous.
I suppose we'll see, but everyone seems to think Blackbeard is simply going to become a Yonkou…I just don't see it. I mean, think about this, he wanted Luffy, not Ace. The Whitebeard War wasn't originally part of his plan. Thus, he was going after something that could kill even Whitebeard. Is it really three people or would something more powerful be required to take down the World's Strongest Man?
Why are you assuming the three people in level 6 aren't enough to help him take down WB or everybody on level 6? Why are you dead-set on the idea Teach wants a super weapon or something to kill WB? WB's battle at Marineford wasn't originally a part of his but taking down WB always has been. Raiding ID to gather Silver Medalist to assist him taking down WB and supporting him the rest of the way could have still been his apart of his plan. Taking down Ace and the upcoming war doesn't change that. In fact it seems like a giant lucky break. Though I am interested to know what BB meant when he said his plan isn't going as smoothly as he'd hoped.
Blackbeard wouldn't be able to pass through the New World like a normal Pirate as a Shichibukai, he'd have to have a plan to go straight for One Piece. Thus, he's quite a pertinent threat to Luffy's dream. He can get to Raftel much faster than Luffy with World Government resources….thus he's not as much a rival as someone like Kid or Law.
He can't get anywhere in the New World without a powerful crew as he'd have to fight every Yonkou. Not easy to do with only 5 crew members. The WG wouldn't support a pirate actively seeking the title of PK so I really don't understand your first comment. Think you may be putting too much emphasis on the Shichibukai title. He wants to become PK and to do so he'd have to go through all the World powers including the Goverment.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
In addition to all of this, the big fight on Raftel for the title of Pirate King should really be more of a rival / antithesis to Luffy. Blackbeard, on the other hand, is the antithesis to Whitebeard, thus I don't really see him as a suitable final rival for the title of Pirate King. I mean, no matter what, I seriously doubt that Raftel will be the final arc….the final arc will most likely be taking down the World Government itself....so I would assume either the Gorousei or the top fighters the World Governmnet has will be the real final opponents / villains of the entire series.
Really? I agree that his focus so far seems to be replacing Whitebeard, but all the dramatic moments, coupled with his remarkable similarity to Luffy (with a dark twist, of course) seems to indicate that he will eventually be Luffy's biggest rival. I'm not saying that it will play out that way, as I agree that a fight with the World Government will need to be resolved toward the end, but I could definitely see Blackbeard taking part in that as well.
Why doubt this? With 3 new uber crew mates his crew will begin to resemble a Yonkou crew who seem to have three notable crewmates besides the captain(we'll see if the pattern continues with Kaidou) each. Even more so if he recruits the grunt looking level 6 fighters as a start-up fleet.
So you just kinda said that the other crewmember are not notable? :/ Dare I say, the best sniper in the world, Van Auger, and Lafitte, who is recognised by face in MariJois, are not notable? :/ Bah. You need to watch your mouth, pal~ >_>
Also, yonku pattern with 3 notable members? Whitebeard has 16 divisions, but we seen 4 captains. FOUR (of 16)
Shanks has Lucky Roux, Yasopp and Beckman, which are THREE. I do not see any pattern here :/
@Al!naJames:
So you just kinda said that the other crewmember are not notable? :/ Dare I say, the best sniper in the world, Van Auger, and Lafitte, who is recognised by face in MariJois, are not notable? :/ Bah. You need to watch your mouth, pal~ >_>
Also, yonku pattern with 3 notable members? Whitebeard has 16 divisions, but we seen 4 captains. FOUR (of 16)
Shanks has Lucky Roux, Yasopp and Beckman, which are THREE. I do not see any pattern here :/
Yassop is the best Sniper in the World. Most people always match BB's current crew with the weaker SH so that why I list them below any potential new silver Medalists crew members. In the OP world only Laffitte was somewhat known. His notoriety hardly compares to someone Iva lists alongside Crocodile, Jinbei, and Ace.
The only people with any sort of emphasis in WBs crew are Marco, Jozu, and Ace, which are THREE. Everybody else is depicted as a nameless grunt despite their status in the world no different than the dozen of level 6 prisoners we've seen. Do you really think Shanks crew goes Beckman, Lucky, Yassop>>>>>>>>Rockstar with no other notorious&powerful members?
Hey, I'm just trying to think outside the box here. Freeing those three named pirates is the first think I thought of when I thought what he might be doing in Impel Down - the obvious choice. Given this is One Piece and Oda, I tried to think beyond what is obvious as he's quite the unpredictable author.
I'm not dead-set on anything….I don't know why people get annoyed if you don't agree with their opinion. I mean if we all say the same thing, there's no point in having a conversation. That said, I think it's worthwhile to think of other possible ideas.
It's annoying when people say, "that's just a fanfic" just because there's no solid proof yet. I mean, how much fact does your theory have to be based on before it leaves the realm of fanfic? A fanfic is when you actually try to write a story based on the characters....thinking about what might actually happen in the future is simply speculating.
So when thinking about what Blackbeard's purpose in Impel Down might be, I began wondering why a prison clearly based on Dante's Inferno would only have 6 levels. Now I know Oda might want to save time...but that really doesn't seem like Oda. So just because we've seen 6 levels, does that really mean there are ONLY six when dealing with One Piece? Oda never tried to hide level 6 from us...from the minute we saw diagrams of Impel Down we saw the blacked out level 6....not exactly hidden for Oda. So couldn't he be tricking us into thinking level 6 is the "secret" level, when in actuality, there are still 9 (7 is another possiblity given Purgatory described by Dante had 7 levels). So wouldn't the MOST dangerous person / people (or items?) be kept on the bottom level? If that's the case, I would think it would be of the most interest to Blackbeard.
As for Blackbeard's real strength, I think people seriously overestimate him. I mean, Luffy didn't go down from his attack and he was bleeding from a jet gattling....I dont' see how much different their fight could be later in the manga. Luffy can normally defeat more powerful people through the right strategy. It took three attempts, but he took down Crocodile. Similarly, defeating Blackbeard is a matter of overcoming his devil fruit. Just because Blackbeard could defeat Ace and Ace is stronger than Luffy, does not necessarily mean Blackbeard will defeat Luffy. Blackbeard takes physical damage as much as others, if not more. Unlike Luffy, Ace has likely focused on only using his devil fruit ability for fighting. Though he was stronger than Luffy when they were kids, he likely neglected physical fighting since acquiring a logia ability. In the future, I hardly see how it will be any different. Right now, we've seen Luffy CAN hurt Blackbeard. So with the right strategy he could overcome his devil fruit ability. Unless Haki is just going to be some haxx to negate Blackbeard's ability, I dont' see the point in delaying this fight for 12 years =/ I mean, so maybe Blackbeard will return in the future....but I think Luffy will win in a fight against Blackbeard at Marinford. The look Luffy gave Blackbeard when they met just screamed, "I'm going to kick your ass soon!"
Now, back to the three Pirates mentioned in level 6, Catrina Devon, San Juan Wolf, and Vasco Shot....just how strong could they really be to be captured? To me, it would seem they're your average level captain in The New World. I mean, certainly they'd be powerful allies....but honestly, level 6 is where Luffy would probably be put if he had been captured on Shabondy. So I'm not quite sure these three Pirates are going to make the difference for Blackbeard between rivaling the Yonkou and being a nobody.
Also, there's no guarantee that they would join him after leaving Impel Down....would he really become part of the Shichibukai just to get three pirates that may abandon him the moment they leave the prison? I mean they very may well stick with him, but there's no guarantee...it seems like an awfully big plan for only the possibility of new crew members. Blackbeard says he will rock the world within a few hours...sure he may plan on working his way to Yonkou title after this big event (though with a Marine ship I would think he would go straight for Raftel...if that's possible). But is, departing for the New World amidst the chaos of the World Government fighting Whitebeard really Earth shattering? It would seem he's got something bigger in mind - the death of Whitebeard. There's no guarantee San Juan Wolf, Catrina Devon, and Vasco Shot will join him, and even if they do, they're certainly not as strong as Whitebeard. I would think any level 6 pirate would roughly be about the level of the Shichibukai....but Whitebeard? Shanks? I don't think so. I'm just saying, Blackbeard would have to have some assurance that whatever he's after will remain in his possession, be that a person or an item kept in the prison.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
As for Blackbeard's real strength, I think people seriously overestimate him.
It's more like your underestimating Luffy. I already see Luffy on the same level as the Shichibukai in terms of physical strength, speed and combat technique.
Just think about all his fight he had, especially the ones he lost. When Luffy loses, It's always because there is some ability of the opponent he can't overcome. Good examples are Smoker and Ao Kiji. He never could beat them, and that only because he isn't even able to hit them, because of their broken Logia abilities. Same deal was with Crocodile, in the first round, he simply couldn't win because he couldn't even touch him. But after he figured out how to avoid this, he gave Crocodile a good beating. Remember round 3, when Crocodile decided to fight him as a pirate? Crocodile tried to beat him with his hook, but he simply couldn't, because Luffy was superior in fighting skill, physical strength and of course, ambition (NOT HAKI).
The only one who nearly killed Luffy and didn't had such a broken ability like all logias was Lucci. And that was because Lucci is a trained assassin with excellent combat ability. He nearly killed Luffy because at some point, he was stronger than Luffy. In physical strength, fighting technique and speed.
Another opponent we saw Luffy had a hard time with is Sentoumaru and Kuma. Kumas case is obvious - same broken Devil Fruit abilites like the logias. Sentoumaru was probably better because he can utilize his haki in combat situations. Yes, It was never stated that he used Haki back then, but It should be obvious, since he even said himself that he is no Devil Fruit user, plus the fact that he couldn't harm Luffy in a way no opponent could until the fight against the Boa sisters.
I don't overestimate Blackbeard because Luffy is already an excellent fighter comparable with the higher class fighters in One Piece.
I don't think Ao Kiji, Kizaru, Smoker and Kuma would do much better in a fight against Luffy If he could break their perfect defense like he did with Crocodile and Enel.
I'm not saying he would defeat them all, but he would give them a good fight.
@Vongola: I'm sorry, but your paragraph about Blackbeard is entirely retarded. This isn't me being annoyed that you don't agree with me, it's just me telling the truth.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Unlike Luffy, Ace has likely focused on only using his devil fruit ability for fighting. Though he was stronger than Luffy when they were kids, he likely neglected physical fighting since acquiring a logia ability.
There are any number of things that I don't agree with in this post, but this one bugs me more than any other as Oda specifically addresses this issue during the fight between Teach and Ace via Van Augur's fight commentary and it's the total opposite of what you're suggesting here.
Ace would be a formidable opponent even without his Logia and, this is important, Teach still damn near killed him with glancing hits and that's without Teach even trying all that hard.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
just because we've seen 6 levels, does that really mean there are ONLY six when dealing with One Piece?
I doubt that there are more levels, Oda is pushing the plot away from the lower leveks and out of the gaol.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
Unlike Luffy, Ace has likely focused on only using his devil fruit ability for fighting.
Luffy has actually also been focusing on using his df ability for fighting, the whole manga is proof.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
To me, it would seem they're your average level captain in The New World.
If they made it to the new world and were actually placed in level 6 then that says a lot about their threat level to the world gov't and to an extent their power.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
would he really become part of the Shichibukai just to get three pirates that may abandon him the moment they leave the prison?
"one is not the same as none"
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
(though with a Marine ship I would think he would go straight for Raftel…if that's possible)
Don't think its possible. the reason that whitebeard hasn't reached Raftel yet is because of the deadlock of the yonkou.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
But is, departing for the New World amidst the chaos of the World Government fighting Whitebeard really Earth shattering?
Taking out Whitebeard a Schichibuaki or top marine officer could truly be earth shattering.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
here's no guarantee San Juan Wolf, Catrina Devon, and Vasco Shot will join him, and even if they do, they're certainly not as strong as Whitebeard. I would think any level 6 pirate would roughly be about the level of the Shichibukai….but Whitebeard? Shanks? I don't think so. I'm just saying, Blackbeard would have to have some assurance that whatever he's after will remain in his possession, be that a person or an item kept in the prison.
just like we saw in this chapter with mr. 3 helping out luffy though he finds him revolting, a debt is something that is taken seriously in one piece world. and being freed from eternal hell and being offered the chance to take down whitebeard is a good alternative.
lol ok, think whatever you want zkhaiser.
I half suspect they were sentanced to death long ago… The prisoners on the bottom level are either there are mostly waiting to disappear from history one way or another.
@Vongola_Boss_XI:
I mean, how much fact does your theory have to be based on before it leaves the realm of fanfic? A fanfic is when you actually try to write a story based on the characters….thinking about what might actually happen in the future is simply speculating.
It ceases to be speculating when there isn't a single shred of evidence, foreshadowing, or a single thing remotely implied in the story to base your idea on. Without these subtle hints from an author you're simply listing random ideas you think would be interesting. We're speculating he'll gain a few crew members. Some people are speculating Wolf will join their crew because of his title "Colossal Battleship", hinting he may become BB's World class ship like the Sunny. Replacing the old pathetic log cabin ship destroyed before Skypiea. A stretch of the imagination but there is still something for such a theory to go on. A more concrete theory is that Dragon will show up soon, being the only person to truly overshadow Teach this arc in shaking the world.
I began wondering why a prison clearly based on Dante's Inferno would only have 6 levels.
There is a difference between being influenced by something and straight up copying the idea. There are only 6 levels because that is the best way Oda could separate them by threat and power level. Most he could stretch it to is 7 to accommodate people on Rayleigh's level but didn't. Logically these people would be too dangerous to take into custody and rushed to execution. Entirely wishing for there to be more levels filled with random mystery super items and people.
Oda never tried to hide level 6 from us…from the minute we saw diagrams of Impel Down we saw the blacked out level 6....not exactly hidden for Oda.
Yes he did by having levels 3&4 being apart of the same tier throwing us off as they're only 5 floors to be seen underwater.
As for Blackbeard's real strength, I think people seriously overestimate him. I mean, Luffy didn't go down from his attack and he was bleeding from a jet gattling….I dont' see how much different their fight could be later in the manga. Luffy can normally defeat more powerful people through the right strategy. It took three attempts, but he took down Crocodile. Similarly, defeating Blackbeard is a matter of overcoming his devil fruit. Just because Blackbeard could defeat Ace and Ace is stronger than Luffy, does not necessarily mean Blackbeard will defeat Luffy. Blackbeard takes physical damage as much as others, if not more. Unlike Luffy, Ace has likely focused on only using his devil fruit ability for fighting. Though he was stronger than Luffy when they were kids, he likely neglected physical fighting since acquiring a logia ability. In the future, I hardly see how it will be any different. Right now, we've seen Luffy CAN hurt Blackbeard. So with the right strategy he could overcome his devil fruit ability. Unless Haki is just going to be some haxx to negate Blackbeard's ability, I dont' see the point in delaying this fight for 12 years =/ **I mean, so maybe Blackbeard will return in the future….**but I think Luffy will win in a fight against Blackbeard at Marinford. The look Luffy gave Blackbeard when they met just screamed, "I'm going to kick your ass soon!"
There is so much wrong with this post. Yes that was pretty surprising as I wouldn't expect somebody like Garp, Shanks, or WB to bleed from any of Luffy's attacks.
! Especially seeing Moria take a worse beating than Hannybal but get up minutes later ready to fight. That could simply be bad speculation on fans like mes part. Used to assume these guys could solo Oz and even outmatch N.Luffy in physical strength. However the flaw in this idea is Lucci who is said to have unheard of level of Douriki(Physical strength). A line like that was likely supposed to tell us Lucci physical strength is in fact World class. Though then Garp shows up completely speedblitzed even Sanji getting to Luffy making Lucci's strength seem lacking(then again nothing indicating Lucci couldn't do the same). Still, BB being so injured could simply be further proof that taking more damage is in fact a side-effect of his fruit. However you also have to remember Luffy is currently suped up with Adrenaline, making him much stronger than usual and, being super pissed as well as knowing who BB is, likely hit him much harder than Hannybal. Immedialy counter attacking then walking away like nothing laughing his ass off isn't a scene to take lightly. As for not seeing how the fight could be different later, well you're now really underestimating his DF and how much punishment he can really take.
No defeating BB is a matter of overcoming his godly stamina. Theres no defense to overcome with BB's fruit like Croc and no tricks or disdvantages to overcome like Enel&foxy. Fight will be more like facing Lucci with Graviga at his disposal. There will be no strategy, just beating the hell out of each other till one drops.
Van Auger, Jinbei, Domino, and the flashback with WB disagree with you. Ace not being a slouch in the physical department was highlighted by Oda during his fight with BB.
Do you really think we've seen everything BB is capable of with his fruit?
Yes the man Shanks tries to warn the strongest man about and has been built up as luffy's biggest Rival since the Wapol arc may show up in the future. He is not going down anytime soon so stop thinking abou it.
Now, back to the three Pirates mentioned in level 6, Catrina Devon, San Juan Wolf, and Vasco Shot….just how strong could they really be to be captured? To me, it would seem they're your average level captain in The New World. I mean, certainly they'd be powerful allies....but honestly, level 6 is where Luffy would probably be put if he had been captured on Shabondy. So I'm not quite sure these three Pirates are going to make the difference for Blackbeard between rivaling the Yonkou and being a nobody.
Now this is just retarded. There could any number of circumstances behind their defeat and capture. Why do you keep ignoring details in the story from important characters. Crocodile said they were only defeated by Roger&WB, that statement completely shuts down the idea they are just average New World pirates. For all you know they were only taken into custody after a big campaign only surpassed in scale by the upcoming marineford battle&Roger fights or knocked out/critically injured in a direct confrontation with WB or Roger and taken into custody in their weakened state. Yeah three subordinates who individually went up against WB couldn't possibly make him a threat. Neither could having dozens or hundreds of pirates so terrible they're locked up for life acting as grunt crewmembers help him achieve further status.
Also, there's no guarantee that they would join him after leaving Impel Down….would he really become part of the Shichibukai just to get three pirates that may abandon him the moment they leave the prison?
…...? You don't know their personalities, motives, any possible relationship with Teach, or what Teach could offer them that makes him confident they will come with him.
But is, departing for the New World amidst the chaos of the World Government fighting Whitebeard really Earth shattering? It would seem he's got something bigger in mind - the death of Whitebeard.
Which he will see too personally in a titanic battle. Why do you think he needs some secret weapon to get the job done or that he doesn't have it already? I already explained how having such a powerful crew will greatly help him advance to the New World, but apparently you ignored it like Van Auger's and Crocodiles statements proving some of your ideas wrong. Hes' not going to depart until every major power is in shambles making it difficult to impede his progress.
There's no guarantee San Juan Wolf, Catrina Devon, and Vasco Shot will join him, and even if they do, they're certainly not as strong as Whitebeard.
Why would they need to be as strong as Shanks or WB to be useful? They only need to be strong enough to face the equivalent of Ace, Marco, and Jozu in the other crews of the World. Having Crewmates that strong makes it extremely difficult to go after someone like Teach with everything else going on.
Blackbeard would have to have some assurance that whatever he's after will remain in his possession,
How do you know he doesn't already have assurances? Why are you assuming its just wishful thinking on Teach's part he'll be able to gather Silver Medalists as accomplices after storming through ID? You realize simply letting level 6 prisoners back into the world to go back to what they were doing before in the middle of the ensuing chaos could still benefit him by taking away resources the WG don't have to chase them all over again? The less pressure on Teach the easier his journey will be.
@Al!naJames:
Dare I say, the best sniper in the world, Van Auger
Yassop is the best Sniper in the World.
I missed that in the manga. Do you have some proofs for these assumptions?
I think Shiryuu warned BB about Magellan's DokuDoku powers, so after they got owned, BB waited Magellan to leave then somehow he pulled out the antidote (or Doc Q did something) the he went directly to lvl 6. He said he has a plan that will rock the world. This plan will take place in ID and he wasn't targeting Luffy or Magellan. He must had some other goals and the only 'big' things mentioned regarding ID are the lvl 6 prisoners. They had and have grudge against Whitebeard. So i'm not sure that they will surely join to BB, but another possibility that BB free them just to strengthen the forces that will fight against Whitebeard.
i think that Doc Q's DF Powers are absorbing another persons sickness.
I missed that in the manga. Do you have some proofs for these assumptions?
Don't get me wrong, I love Yasopp very much, but we haven't seen him doing much apart from some accurate shooting from a few meters distance. Besides, he lacks eye-gear and shoots from random generic pistols apart from some kind of beloved gun/slingshot with a name and special features which doesn't add him any points.
Auger is nicknamed Supersonic and has a riffle named Thousand Islands. That speaks for itself, the speed and the shooting range. I'm not even going to talk about how he shot seagulls in Jaya and the movie he was based on.
I think even Sogeking had reached the level Yasopp is on by now.
Now we should go back on topic :o
@Al!naJames:
I think even Sogeking had reached the level Yasopp is on by now.
Are you shitting me, You think Usopp is on the same level as a yonkou commander?
She is a fangirl of BBs crew. I can understand that the dark side of the force blinds her :)
Are you shitting me, You think Usopp is on the same level as a yonkou commander?
Who told you Yasopp was a commander? :P
His shooting skills = yes.
And I said Sogeking, not Usopp. They are different people.
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Lol no. Sogeking and Usopp are one and the same. That's like saying Clark Kent isn't superman.
Sogeking is just a separate persona. Whether or not Usopp really developed a split personality is another matter, but Sogeking represents the positive to Usopp's negative. They have the same abilities, the same strength, the same skill, etc. Sogeking is just more confident.
I suppose we won't have any idea how good Yasopp is until we see him again. I've always got the impression of him as more of a gunslinger rather than a sniper. But him being a high ranking member of Shanks crew does give him mucho credit.
@Al!naJames:
His shooting skills = yes.
Maybe he's inherited his aim, but in a fight Yasopp would school him so bad.
He'd shoot of both Sogeking and Usoppps nuts and shoot of the scrotum hair before they drop to the ground and shoot of Usopps knee caps before he's done loading his slingshot:p
The guy shots the legs of an ant, from 100 feet away without hitting the rest of it. He's in a league of his own.
Maybe he's inherited his aim, but in a fight Yasopp would school him so bad.
He'd shoot of both Sogeking and Usoppps nuts and shoot of the scrotum hair before they drop to the ground and shoot of Usopps knee caps before he's done loading his slingshot:p
The guy shots the legs of an ant, from 100 feet away without hitting the rest of it. He's in a league of his own.
And that's all with 16th century ammo.
The guy shots the legs of an ant, from 100 feet away without hitting the rest of it. He's in a league of his own.
Same for Van Augur; shooting a seagull over five miles away from him is still one of the most impressive physical feats in One Piece.
Blackbeard acquiring legendary crew mates would give me a New Band of the Hawk feeling (Griffith shows up again and random legends appear and just start fucking things up and oppose a threat to even the strongest of armies with just 12 people)
The only difference is see between Van Auge and Yassop is their choice of weapon and its variety of ammunition. To put it more clearly Van Auge has been seen to either snipe or use what appears to be a shotgun variety of ammunition used on Ace.
Kind of similar to Usopp in the sense that they may use a variety of attacks, allowing themselves to cover a range of moves, from long distance shots, to short range powerful attacks. I wonder If Yassop is the same? Does he too have a weapon that has allows these kind of options? Maybe this is what separates them
These characters are getting WAY too much attention on this forum.
That is all.
I'm not saying they won't show up, but at this point there's little reason to speculate beyond "ODA MENTIONED THEM BY NAME".
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This guy has brains.
If they were still there, there wouldn't be a problem taking on Magellan and/or escaping ID.
Maybe he's inherited his aim, but in a fight Yasopp would school him so bad.
He'd shoot of both Sogeking and Usoppps nuts and shoot of the scrotum hair before they drop to the ground and shoot of Usopps knee caps before he's done loading his slingshot:p
The guy shots the legs of an ant, from 100 feet away without hitting the rest of it. He's in a league of his own.
now sure why this topic is about the 3 snipers. But anyways it was he shot the anteni off the ant from 100 feet or whatever, not legs.
And for the next person saying how the seaguls where shot so damn far away is not making him better. Hell even usopp has reached a skill in enies lobby of shotting from a huge distance that their guns couldn't reach and with wind and all. Sure its still not even close to the van auger distance.
But also this bragging of Yasopp was what some 15 years ago he was doing these kind of shots with a pistol, not a sniper rifle with a HUGE skope. Just like how Shanks went from back then to now a Yonkou, obviously yasopp got way better.
And even though was filler, it was Oda's idea correct on the awesome shooter in loguetown. He was supposedly the best sniper in the entire marines and he was beat by yasopp in a duel.
Anyone who is trying to compare strengths of Shanks, Whitebeard, or any other high up tier character is just being dumb. Hell we can't even clearly tell how strong any of the admirals are. They just are too far out of our league right now we just brush the surface. I mean we saw shanks guy take out whole bandits with the butt of a shotgun without any effort. Yea luffy could gattling them in an instant as well without effort, so is luffy at his level when he set out. hell no.
The only difference is see between Van Auge and Yassop is their choice of weapon and its variety of ammunition. To put it more clearly Van Auge has been seen to either snipe or use what appears to be a shotgun variety of ammunition used on Ace.
We clearly see what kind of ammunition Van Augur uses when Chopper digs that minie ball out of the seagull. The exit wounds on Ace were almost certainly from individual shots. Ineffectual ones, sure, but individual shots.
And for the next person saying how the seaguls where shot so damn far away is not making him better. Hell even usopp has reached a skill in enies lobby of shotting from a huge distance that their guns couldn't reach and with wind and all. Sure its still not even close to the van auger distance.
Not even close is a severe understatement seeing as how the Marines could still see Usopp at that distance. Van Augur was so far away that Jaya itself wasn't even visible yet.
But also this bragging of Yasopp was what some 15 years ago he was doing these kind of shots with a pistol, not a sniper rifle with a HUGE skope. Just like how Shanks went from back then to now a Yonkou, obviously yasopp got way better.
We've not seen Yasopp do anything to make such a judgement call though.
There's no actual proof that Shanks wasn't an Emperor back then by the way. If nothing else, his coming back from East Blue with one less arm caused quite a stir.
And even though was filler, it was Oda's idea correct on the awesome shooter in loguetown. He was supposedly the best sniper in the entire marines and he was beat by yasopp in a duel.
Teach is being set up as the main antagonist for the entire series so there's no real reason for any of his people to be second to anybody else in their particular field of expertise.
So Yasopp might be better than anybody in the Marines, but that doesn't guarantee that he's better than Van Augur.
And even though was filler, it was Oda's idea correct on the awesome shooter in loguetown. He was supposedly the best sniper in the entire marines and he was beat by yasopp in a duel.
He wasnt supposed to the very best marine gunman/sniper. But he was a HQ marine who Smoker accepted as his equal so thats pretty impressive nonetheless.
Same for Van Augur; shooting a seagull over five miles away from him is still one of the most impressive physical feats in One Piece.
Oh Augers definitly up there, was mostly comparing Yasopp to current Usopp.
Can someone give me a link to where these people were mentioned?
Can someone give me a link to where these people were mentioned?
Why do people think they'll join BB's crew?
jus go through all previous pages..not only these guys..mayb they will find jack sparrow or barbossa if u ID got level 9 lols..
More like Davy Jones
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More like Davy Jones
Davy Jones on BB's crew…just imagine the possibilities
I hope catarina devon is a babe lol, possible opponent for nami next time.
I d like to see a super-MERMAN in BB crew, and I tottaly agree with Alienished about Catarina Devon…