Yo some clyde tried starting a Naruto vs. one piece debate with me via PM, but he didn't understand these things roll in the arena or not at all, so I'm gonna have it out here.
@alexh4319:
So your the infamous Zeph. The one who hates Naruto
Yeah, the one. The only person who could be categorized as such.
I've come to understand you dislike the current arc
Naruto has sucked since roughly volume 24. Not just this current arc.
well both Naruto and Bleach are swooping One Piece's ass lately
ahahahahaha
Both were pretty good.
No both are awful, especially especially Bleach.
However I've been taking Naruto more seriously for quite some time. To me, ever since Grim Jaw vs. Ichigo Bleach has been a guilty pleasure of mindless action and pretty pictures. Being far more interested in Naruto as a series it wins for me.
And so Naruto has just been mindless action, this has only made your position more unclear.
One Piece was pretty bad, as it consistently has been since the mid-super nova arc.
As it has been consistently since less then 3 volumes ago. Hi Phenomonyl, still attempting to paint little segments as monster portions of the story huh? Tell us about the Duval arc.
Also you are absolutely without any taste at all if you thought the Supernova arc started sucking halfway through.
The current Naruto arc is great, excellent.
Horrible even.
And how much longer before it ends?
Im going to say 5 chapters, and if you include Pain's dying monologue/speech/flashbacks/whatever it may very well be another 7-8.
Then we can move on to other godawful antagonists. Oh joy.
Personally I don't mind it being that long. This is/will be one of the biggest events in the series. Better he does it tastefully then just rush it. _
Naruto for the past few years has been nothing if not a consistently large let down of inevitable events as an oevrworked apethtic Kishi goes through the motions of story events he once cared abotu telling maybe back in 2002.
Hinata's development?
Person claiming lousy comic series quality is literary cheap date, news at 11.
great plot development, Hinata's new emotional strength is impressive and it was emotionally gripping seeing her confession to Naruto, Pain's brutal execution of her, and Naruto's rage that resulted from it.
I too get white knuckles seeing a laughable rendition of an incredibly well worn cliche.
You're a faggot zeph.
You think Bleach is good.
The Naruto manga is great
Nope.
and this arc is mainly what it is cause 's mainly because the manga is coming towards its end
Right after we deal with Sasuke, Orochikabuto, Madara, the Cloud Nation, Root, and so on and so on and so on…
and he was never going to do anything with these characters for what's ahead anyway, so why not get some drama, development, and suspense out of them.
So you flat out admitting that since Kishi has neglected his characters like the awful author he is that he might as well spend them like quarters in a gum ball machine on quick easy satisfaction from his braindead groupie followings?
I'm impressed he's acting like this, it's beyond what most Shonen Authors do.
Nigga please.
It's meant mostly to increase the drama, tragedy, and suspense of this event, which it certainly is.
I love these arguements about storytelling.
"Hey this guy attempted the very basics of storytelling, give him some credit".
Yeah, a round of applause for just trying the bottom line. Our boy Kishi.
Though I still have a feeling in the bottom of my stomach that's telling me something will happen at the end of this arc that will save all these characters. I still can't shake off the fact that this is a weekly shonen manga.
Hinata won't die, Chouji's dad won't die, and Kakashi won't die.
Only Shizune is probably gone. And if you think this makes Kishi a riskque author going where none have gone before your a dumb fag.
And it's rather unsurprising as to the "fan" reaction to this. Despite people once again getting exactly what they wanted the bitching is still immense.
Yeah who are you talking about here with this goofy strawman arguement.
Pain attacking Konoha? Check.
Badly done? Check.
Konoha in peril? Check, it's completely destroyed.
Badly done? Check.
Heroes dying? Check.
No heroes have died.
Naruto being badass and powerful? Check.
Badly done on the latter? Check.
And the former sure as shit hasn't happend.
This is what people were bitching for during the entire Uchiha Arc, and now that we have it all of a sudden "Kishimoto is insane".
I thought this dumb callout was aimed at me. Who the shit are you talking about.
As I've been saying around here for years: bitchers will be bitchers.
You joined in 2008 and nobody knows who the hell you are.
Hell this fight was a
spectacular fight, much better than I expected. The destruction of Konoha and the badassery of Naruto's return.
Fight was awful, Naruto has had a stupidly large power jump, Konoha getting destroyed was a limp attempt at Kishi to again channel his beloved Katsuhiro Otomo.
I also liked the philosophical discussions
ahahahahahahahaha
and Pain's portrayal.
Personalityless cliche?
I like/appreciate psycho villains
You wouldn't know such a character if they bit you on the ass.
as much as anyone else, but seeing Pain as a determined, desperate, and yet noble who just so happens to be out of his mind was very interesting.
Yeah, he's every other James Bond villain, wow, Kishi is amazing.
Had some of my best character developments/dialog of Part 2.
You are completely unfit to judge character development.
You know what browse One Piece every so often whenever it gets semi-interesting. Pretty terrible series save a few select moments (Zoro vs. Mr. 1/initial introduction of CP9).
No idea why the masses love it so much.
Hint: Don't make this attack route when the series your backing is even more popular.
Arlong park reminds me of 1932 Germany with Oda as Mein Fuhrer.
I bet you think that simile is original too. And it's 1931.
Only reason joind thsi forum was to laugh at idiots whom bash Naruto.
So you waited an entire year to do anything and even then just sent a PM to a member guarenteed to wipe the floor with you.
Or your an unfunny gimmick account, but hey.
I have been skimming this latest Superjail stuff though and I've found it pretty bad save the re-introduction of Crocodile.
So you skimmed something and think you can argue about it with someone whose read it.
You're dumb.
Haven't read the latest chapter however. You have no taste Delton. You can't deconstruct this post. You can't.
So who is this. Dragon?