I'm with the "now the 9 tails is gonna emerge" group. Besides, I'd love to see how the whole village deals with witnessing the return of the very thing that nearly destroyed them years ago.
Naruto Discussion V [Re-Re-Redux]
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@Monkey:
Tsunade's gonna die saving Naruto from Akatsuki or Sakura is gonna save Naruto, cuz you know the whole New gen surpass the Old gen. Sakura will probably save the one she "loves"
nah, than naruto would become hokage instantly. i'd say either naruto saves himself with his last clone or hinata jumps in for the rescue OR the ninja troop from this other ninja clan, who was send out to save the 8 tails or whatever, rescues the abducted naruto. 'bout time they come into play!
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Now it's time for the other ninja to go and fight Pain, now that they don't have to worry about "interfering" anymore. Oh please, Kishi.
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Now it's time for the other ninja to go and fight Pain, now that they don't have to worry about "interfering" anymore. Oh please, Kishi.
me: who are you?
you: …nobody.
me: exactly. and i'm just awesome!
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Somehow there has to be a way for Naruto to get out of this considering it just seems too easy. I mean, Pain probably should know he has the Kyuubi chakra among his Sage and regular chakra…and as good as seeing Hinata was in this chapter, I don't want her to get infected with the "Orihime syndrome". (oh yeah, no one can interfere with this fight...too late)
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In case anyone missed it, Vol. 45 cover:
! That colorspread looked like shit, however.
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In case anyone missed it, Vol. 45 cover:
! http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/kaze1028/naruto45.jpg That colorspread looked like shit, however.
Damn that's a rather bad ass volume cover. The colorspread was fucking retarted.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!? More character development!? I mean a few weeks back I was baffled by the sheer increase in character development, but this week!? I mean, wow. Pat on the back for you Kishimoto. I feel like I just grew that much closer to Hinata…
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Frogs to the rescue next chapter.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!? More character development!? I mean a few weeks back I was baffled by the sheer increase in character development, but this week!? I mean, wow. Pat on the back for you Kishimoto. I feel like I just grew that much closer to Hinata…
It was really quite annoying to see NO ONE help Naruto. Get in his way my buttocks, these people are supposed to be ninjas!!! And for Mr. Kishimoto to repeat it not once, not twice but trice (Shikamaru, Kiba and Hinata) seemed like he was rubbing it in our faces.
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@Thousand:
And for Mr. Kishimoto to repeat it not once, not twice but trice (Shikamaru, Kiba and Hinata) seemed like he was rubbing it in our faces.
It's called bad writing. Maybe that's what the target group demands…
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bad chapter…. "get in his way"? That's the only excuse Kishi could think of?
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It's called bad writing. Or maybe that's what certain target groups wanna read.
You said it, bro. Looks like Kishimoto's run out of ideas. I mean, why the heck does he have to hype up Naruto so much. It's not like he's going to become Hokage at the end of this arc (though I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, seeing where this story is heading). He's going to get pwned by Saucegay/Madara or whoever soon enough. It's getting ridiculous. If the others think helping Naruto now will hinder him, does that mean Naruto's going to work alone for the rest of the series? WTF?
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Maybe next chapter they might wise up and, you know, do something. Sakura is near the battle right? She should attack. Seriously, these are the worse ninjas ever (at least go near the battle, just in case something like, say, Pain winning happens).
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…, does that mean Naruto's going to work alone for the rest of the series? WTF?
You know what they say, it's lonely at the top
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What was with all those awful panels of them sliding across the ground like that after getting hit?
It was like THIS IS HOW MUCH DIRT I ATE.
This chapter was a massive waste of space. And I thought Kubo was bad.
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In case anyone missed it, Vol. 45 cover:
! http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc197/kaze1028/naruto45.jpg That colorspread looked like shit, however.
Sure as hell did!
You know what they say, it's lonely at the top http://smilies.newcastlebeats.com/smilies/happyfy.gif
Get em girl
lol lol, anywho, blahhhh, chapter was ok, I was looking for a bit more, like the 2nd to last pain getting his ass whopped, but, I forgot this was Naruto, sooooooo, there ya go, a chapter about pretty much nothing!
Frogs to the rescue next chapter.
Pretty much, and once the battles over, they probably wont get any credit, stupid Naruto, Treat Are For Kids!!
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If the others think helping Naruto now will hinder him, does that mean Naruto's going to work alone for the rest of the series? WTF?
no, as soon as sasuke has been convinced (by getting a beating) that they are still friends, they will both fight all the tailed-beasts together. you'll just have to wait another 5 years for teamwork to reappear then.
@Thousand:
It was really quite annoying to see NO ONE help Naruto. Get in his way my buttocks, these people are supposed to be ninjas!!! And for Mr. Kishimoto to repeat it not once, not twice but trice (Shikamaru, Kiba and Hinata) seemed like he was rubbing it in our faces.
isn't it funny that other mangas than one piece rely on inside fillers that much? can't tell if it's worse than 3 filler arcs in a row in the anime, but it certainly is annoying, too.
it's also funny to see that one piece is improving more and more with each arc and getting more exciting while naruto and bleach (f.e.) slowly but surely flush down the toilet. ok, naruto found a new set of wings again and it certainly had some very high ups meanwhile, too … but i just wonder if there will be anything suprising from now on. -
You know I was thinking in the shower just how cool it would have been if, using some extremely clever ninja tactic, the Konoha ninjas effectively split up the individual pains and each main character ninja(Neji, Shikamaru, Shino, Kiba, Hinata, Sakura etc) each gets a gruelling and well-written one-on one fight with an individual Pain then the final one(the strongest one of them all) has his one-on-one boss fight against the final Pain. This way Naruto showcases his new abilities and how much he has changed and the rest of the main characters get some limelight as well. Not all this Naruto does everything due to his over-powered abilities and makes the rest of the village look like incompetent boobs tripe.
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@Thousand:
It was really quite annoying to see NO ONE help Naruto. Get in his way my buttocks, these people are supposed to be ninjas!!! And for Mr. Kishimoto to repeat it not once, not twice but trice (Shikamaru, Kiba and Hinata) seemed like he was rubbing it in our faces.
Because a shadow hold ability that can feeze an enemy in place, a giant fast moving pissing dog, and magic eyeballs that can see and stop Chakra flow are all completley useless in this fight. Right. I suppose Rock Lee's all physical fighting abilities would have been useless against the Pain that sucked at blocking physical attacks too.
god I hate that Kishi hates his secondary characters, and that he just skips right past them when they're the better, more interesting and potential filled part of the series.
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i can't really decide which series is letting me down more right now… Naruto or Bleach.
This chapter really felt like a waste. I enjoyed seeing some of the other ninjas.. but they did exactly what robby and thousand lion have said... the same lame shit.
I dunno... a Ninja with force push isn't really that creative..
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What robbybevard said.
I mean really. Naruto is now trying to figure out how to buy time with his Sage chakra and EVERYONE in the village that was saved by Hokage, can only wait and watch. They can at least stall Pain for time. Their abilities are varied enough.
And the lead Pain….he just doesn't feel that threatening. Last chapter, he finally gets his abilities back at the end and now....push….pull. Some God realm.
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Kishi gets one tiny gold star for having a nice Hinata page. That's it.
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Why does everyone seem to be pissed that no one's helping naruto sure the excuse may not be great but it's not like you guy's wouldn't want to see luffy in another one on one fight so why not naruto (even if the excuse is lame)
plus people complain that he got too powerful too quick but some of you guys have said you don't like training arcs and really who wants to wait another 100 chapters for naruto too get really strong just show us what he's got
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i wouldn't say that it's him getting too powerful too quick… it's that it doesn't really feel right. It just seems like it came out of no where.
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Training arcs can be odious, but handled right they show a believable exposition of gaining strength.
Case in point: Tsunade Arc. Kishi combined Naruto's training for the Rasengan with finding Tsunade, thus eliminating the usual boredom that can plague training scenes.
sigh The good old days.
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Why does everyone seem to be pissed that no one's helping naruto sure the excuse may not be great but it's not like you guy's wouldn't want to see luffy in another one on one fight so why not naruto (even if the excuse is lame)
Well, I guess you could try and put it in the light of the Oz fight. Straw Hats(missing Luffy) try to do their best to wait on Luffy but also take out Oz who takes down the group one by one. This slightly mirrors what village was doing. They were fighting the 6 Pains with people going down one by one. After it got down to the last two(Usopp, Nami) Nightmare Luffy shows up and beats the crap out of Oz(like how Naruto comes and starts downing the Pains with his new form). Now, in One Piece, Luffy does a finishing move and bangs Oz up pretty good and it seems that he is defeated and Luffy loses his power up. This can be slightly akin to how Naruto loses his Sage mode.
When Oz stands back up, it's not just Luffy that gets up to fight, it's everyone that was previously beaten unconscious and the whole team plays a vital role in bringing the 900th special zombie down, with Luffy giving the coup de grâce. Of course, I'm not saying that it should be tic for tac, but if the village of ninja's is willing and able, then it should do something. They were all protected by Tsunade and seem to be pretty much fine. In fact, if it weren't for the parents Naruto's friends would be helping.
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In fact, if it weren't for the parents Naruto's friends would be helping.
Ahhhh so they should kill off the parents in a children of the corn sort of way
JK
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Why does everyone seem to be pissed that no one's helping naruto sure the excuse may not be great but it's not like you guy's wouldn't want to see luffy in another one on one fight so why not naruto (even if the excuse is lame)
plus people complain that he got too powerful too quick but some of you guys have said you don't like training arcs and really who wants to wait another 100 chapters for naruto too get really strong just show us what he's got
Its been a couple weeks, time for one of my patented long posts. I liked the last couple chapters, I really did, but this one puts me back at pissed off. I won't even dwell on Naruto being captured, he's still got another clone yet, (and kudos to Kishi for setting a limit on that, he can only make 2 sage mode copies, even his chakra only goes so far) its not over by at least 2 chapters yet.
The problem is, everyone else put in a piss poor showing, or none at all. This is probably the last arc any of the secondary characters had a chance to do anything, and a perfect opponent for it too… a guy with SIX bodies, and a whole shitload of different strengths and weaknesses, attacks their village where they ALL ARE. One that can't deal with physical attacks? Perfect for Lee! (one that was immune to physical attacks would ALSO be perfect for Lee, for different reasons.) One that summons animals? Perfect for Kiba! One that does... uhm...soul stealing? That mighta been interesting for Shino, who can summon thousands of bugs to sacrifice and screw up the technique. Or Ino, who can send her spirit and mind off into another body temporarily. I haven't thought about it at all, but that right off the top of my head.
You know, honestly, I don't even remember what the different Pains did anymore. They never made enough of an impression for me to bother finding out.
And Naruto one-shotted so many of them, its just meh. The point is, it was a great chance, and in the same ammount of space, to utilize the long neglected other characters. They could have all gotten grueling great fights pushing them to the limit. They didn't even have to win, just find weaknesses or stall. (But Konohamaru gets to KO the guy that KILLED KAKASHI?)
Instead, everyone is standing back while Super Saiyin Naruto one hit ko-s everything, and everyone is BLATANTLY saying "He is so far beyond our level we'll just get in the way, we are useless and there's no point in trying to do anything but hide." Which is the bullshit part. Kishi is completley pulling the Dragonball moment where Goku arrives and kicks ass, which is satisfying, but he's misisng out on the best most dynamic part.... He's unfortunatley pulling from the Cell saga, where it was entirely one man shows, instead of the much better Saiyin or Frieza sagas where everyone contributed.
In Dragonball, where EVERYBODY took on Nappa, or Frieza's 4 forms, and gave their all, used teamwork and every move in their arsenals, falling one by one, until Goku showed up. And then, goku suffered for an entire extra volume using EVERYTHING in his arsenal, including Kaikoken 20, hiding underwater, fireballs galore, techniques that requires his friends to stall some more (spirit bomb) failing,, and THEN, only when his closest friend was killed, only THEN did he go Super Saiyin and start kicking Frieza's ass easily. (Or during the Vegeta fight. Yajirobe hid behind rocks the entire time for a panel here or there, but still paid off in the end when he had a shining moment of cutting off giant monkey Vegeta's tail. While taking up a total of maybe, 6 panels in the course of 20 chapters. Or Krillin got the spirit bomb energy at the end, and Gohan ALSO got to shoot it)
Naruto skipped the steps where all his friends failed and Naruto struggled a little,. And its not because Kishi didn't want to take the time to do this, he just neglected it, because there were like, TWENTY CHAPTERS OF PAIN INVADING KONOHOA BEFORE NARUTO ARRIVED. PLENTY of time to do what I described. And now, all Naruto's FRIENDS are whimpering and hiding and saying we'll never be useful in a fight again, ever. Which is the ultimate insult to the characters, who have already ben neglected for 200 chapters. Its not even as if we're asking for a Dragonball Z level of epic, or standard Bleach pacing where every sidecharacter gets 4 chapters to fight. ALL I want, is each of Naruto's friends, making an attempt, for TWO pages. Thats enough time to do a technique, and then get knocked down, making the villain nastier and more impressive. Could burn through everyone in a chapter or two, instead of having them stand there, MULTIPLE times, going "We'd better not get in the way!"
Can't at least ONE of them defy their parents and say "Screw you and your caution, I care about Naruto, he's my friend, and if I can buy him even one second of extra time he needs, then its worth the risk!" Especially when he is, you know, desperatley trying to stall for time now.
If Kishi has to play that card where they'd just be in the way, have one of them actually run out to help, and ACTUALLY get in the way. Taken hostage or distract Naruto at a crucial moment. If, instead of Hinata complaining "I want to help Naruto" "No don't, he's beyond us" "But..." I'm just using Hinata as the example here because she showed up this chapter, this can be Kiba or Sakura or anyone you pick, the example is the same. Instead, have Hinata run out, try to punch Pain in the back once, where he then turns and smacks her down, Naruto then goes wide eyed and furiously punches Pain in the face with the half second that bought. OR Naruto rushes forward and takes a critical hit to the back he wouldn't have otherwise while protecting Hinata from a deadly blow. It would take 1 page, maybe a page and a half. Exactly the same ammount of time taken here for them to say "No, don't do anything." and certainley less time than its taken to be told "No" 3 times.
It would be a better showing for Naruto's friends, it would make Pain seem nastier and more powerful, it would strengthen Naruto's resolve more, AND make him seem more badass for protecting his friends and fighting harder while he screams "Get away from here! I appreciate the help but I don't want you getting hurt!"
Same exact page count. Way more character, personality and depth. ESPECIALLY now that its down to the last strongest Pain.
This fight isn't over yet, so maybe the other characters will come into play yet and it'll be more satisying by the end, but given Kishi's track record all of part 2, I'm not counting on it.
Doesn't help that Pain is the most bland nondescript Naruto villain ever. He even had 6 bodies but they didn't have different personalities. Pain's emotionlessness doesn't make him cool or emo, it just makes him... really... REALLY boring as a villain. He has no wicked glee or empathy, no hopes or dreams or jokes or banter with his sidekicks, I'm not feeling ANYTHING as he gets beaten down. Sure he caused a lot of destruction, but he didn't gloat about it, he didn't feel bad about it. I don't empathize with his grand scheme and think "he may be right", and I also don't hate him for what he's done, because he's just not... caring about what he does. Nappa, Vegeta and Frieza enjoyed hurting people and destroying cities and worlds. Zubuza cared about Haku. Bone guy knew he was dying, but did it for lord Orochimaru. Deidara was having fun showing off his artful creations and had color commentary from crazy Tobi. 5 hearts guy relished in te fact he was immortal. Pain is just sort of... doing it. Because. its just like killing mindless robots, which is dull.
Villains are one of Kishi's strongest points, and Pain is just... easily... the most boring out of the entire manga. (I still say if all of them had Sock Pain's crazy grin, this would feel ENTIRELY different and scarier, as opposed to the bored emotionless-ness.)
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I just bought naruto volume 37 and in the author comment kishimoto mentions that the weekly release of chapter 334 was done in pencil format since his back was having muscle spasms. So I looked at both 334 the weekly released chapter and the volume chapter. Volume chapter is much cleaner looking and the weekly released chapter looks allright but you can still tell it's somewhat sketchy.
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it's also funny to see that one piece is improving more and more with each arc and getting more exciting
Overstatement of the year.
@robbybevard:
god I hate that Kishi hates his secondary characters, and that he just skips right past them when they're the better, more interesting and potential filled part of the series.
Don't care how much people try to you''ll never be able to convince me Kiba much less TenTen are better characters much less interesting.
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What robbybevard said.
I mean really. Naruto is now trying to figure out how to buy time with his Sage chakra and EVERYONE in the village that was saved by Hokage, can only wait and watch. They can at least stall Pain for time. Their abilities are varied enough.
And the lead Pain….he just doesn't feel that threatening. Last chapter, he finally gets his abilities back at the end and now....push….pull. Some God realm.
Katsuyu: No one is to interfere
Shikamaru's Dad: He's on a whole other level now.
Hyuga Clan guy: If you join him you'll just be a burden.Naruto: Dammit! Why isn't anyone helping me?!
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i can't really decide which series is letting me down more right now… Naruto or Bleach.
Naruto hands down. Bleach biggest problem is its bad pacing and the strenght level inconsistency. But appart from that, the side characters are not puked on like it is the case in Naruto. Ok, the main protagonist is an uncharismatic bore but that's why the side characters can provide entertainment. It might not be superb writing but it still is something the other thing doesn't have. After all, a large cast of the good guys definitely isn't anywhere near to be like "don't get in Ichigos way". At least to me this is a very imporant thing on which I can rank Bleach above Naruto without a second thought.
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Overstatement of the year.
In case you didn't notice, Mugiwara Kaizoku was talking about One Piece and not Naruto
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@robbybevard:
Its been a couple weeks, time for one of my patented long posts. I liked the last couple chapters, I really did, but this one puts me back at pissed off. I won't even dwell on Naruto being captured, he's still got another clone yet, (and kudos to Kishi for setting a limit on that, he can only make 2 sage mode copies, even his chakra only goes so far) its not over by at least 2 chapters yet.
The problem is, everyone else put in a piss poor showing, or none at all. This is probably the last arc any of the secondary characters had a chance to do anything, and a perfect opponent for it too… a guy with SIX bodies, and a whole shitload of different strengths and weaknesses, attacks their village where they ALL ARE. One that can't deal with physical attacks? Perfect for Lee! (one that was immune to physical attacks would ALSO be perfect for Lee, for different reasons.) One that summons animals? Perfect for Kiba! One that does... uhm...soul stealing? That mighta been interesting for Shino, who can summon thousands of bugs to sacrifice and screw up the technique. Or Ino, who can send her spirit and mind off into another body temporarily. I haven't thought about it at all, but that right off the top of my head.
You know, honestly, I don't even remember what the different Pains did anymore. They never made enough of an impression for me to bother finding out.
And Naruto one-shotted so many of them, its just meh. The point is, it was a great chance, and in the same ammount of space, to utilize the long neglected other characters. They could have all gotten grueling great fights pushing them to the limit. They didn't even have to win, just find weaknesses or stall. (But Konohamaru gets to KO the guy that KILLED KAKASHI?)
Instead, everyone is standing back while Super Saiyin Naruto one hit ko-s everything, and everyone is BLATANTLY saying "He is so far beyond our level we'll just get in the way, we are useless and there's no point in trying to do anything but hide." Which is the bullshit part. Kishi is completley pulling the Dragonball moment where Goku arrives and kicks ass, which is satisfying, but he's misisng out on the best most dynamic part.... He's unfortunatley pulling from the Cell saga, where it was entirely one man shows, instead of the much better Saiyin or Frieza sagas where everyone contributed.
In Dragonball, where EVERYBODY took on Nappa, or Frieza's 4 forms, and gave their all, used teamwork and every move in their arsenals, falling one by one, until Goku showed up. And then, goku suffered for an entire extra volume using EVERYTHING in his arsenal, including Kaikoken 20, hiding underwater, fireballs galore, techniques that requires his friends to stall some more (spirit bomb) failing,, and THEN, only when his closest friend was killed, only THEN did he go Super Saiyin and start kicking Frieza's ass easily. (Or during the Vegeta fight. Yajirobe hid behind rocks the entire time for a panel here or there, but still paid off in the end when he had a shining moment of cutting off giant monkey Vegeta's tail. While taking up a total of maybe, 6 panels in the course of 20 chapters. Or Krillin got the spirit bomb energy at the end, and Gohan ALSO got to shoot it)
Naruto skipped the steps where all his friends failed and Naruto struggled a little,. And its not because Kishi didn't want to take the time to do this, he just neglected it, because there were like, TWENTY CHAPTERS OF PAIN INVADING KONOHOA BEFORE NARUTO ARRIVED. PLENTY of time to do what I described. And now, all Naruto's FRIENDS are whimpering and hiding and saying we'll never be useful in a fight again, ever. Which is the ultimate insult to the characters, who have already ben neglected for 200 chapters. Its not even as if we're asking for a Dragonball Z level of epic, or standard Bleach pacing where every sidecharacter gets 4 chapters to fight. ALL I want, is each of Naruto's friends, making an attempt, for TWO pages. Thats enough time to do a technique, and then get knocked down, making the villain nastier and more impressive. Could burn through everyone in a chapter or two, instead of having them stand there, MULTIPLE times, going "We'd better not get in the way!"
Can't at least ONE of them defy their parents and say "Screw you and your caution, I care about Naruto, he's my friend, and if I can buy him even one second of extra time he needs, then its worth the risk!" Especially when he is, you know, desperatley trying to stall for time now.
If Kishi has to play that card where they'd just be in the way, have one of them actually run out to help, and ACTUALLY get in the way. Taken hostage or distract Naruto at a crucial moment. If, instead of Hinata complaining "I want to help Naruto" "No don't, he's beyond us" "But..." I'm just using Hinata as the example here because she showed up this chapter, this can be Kiba or Sakura or anyone you pick, the example is the same. Instead, have Hinata run out, try to punch Pain in the back once, where he then turns and smacks her down, Naruto then goes wide eyed and furiously punches Pain in the face with the half second that bought. OR Naruto rushes forward and takes a critical hit to the back he wouldn't have otherwise while protecting Hinata from a deadly blow. It would take 1 page, maybe a page and a half. Exactly the same ammount of time taken here for them to say "No, don't do anything." and certainley less time than its taken to be told "No" 3 times.
It would be a better showing for Naruto's friends, it would make Pain seem nastier and more powerful, it would strengthen Naruto's resolve more, AND make him seem more badass for protecting his friends and fighting harder while he screams "Get away from here! I appreciate the help but I don't want you getting hurt!"
Same exact page count. Way more character, personality and depth. ESPECIALLY now that its down to the last strongest Pain.
This fight isn't over yet, so maybe the other characters will come into play yet and it'll be more satisying by the end, but given Kishi's track record all of part 2, I'm not counting on it.
Doesn't help that Pain is the most bland nondescript Naruto villain ever. He even had 6 bodies but they didn't have different personalities. Pain's emotionlessness doesn't make him cool or emo, it just makes him... really... REALLY boring as a villain. He has no wicked glee or empathy, no hopes or dreams or jokes or banter with his sidekicks, I'm not feeling ANYTHING as he gets beaten down. Sure he caused a lot of destruction, but he didn't gloat about it, he didn't feel bad about it. I don't empathize with his grand scheme and think "he may be right", and I also don't hate him for what he's done, because he's just not... caring about what he does. Nappa, Vegeta and Frieza enjoyed hurting people and destroying cities and worlds. Zubuza cared about Haku. Bone guy knew he was dying, but did it for lord Orochimaru. Deidara was having fun showing off his artful creations and had color commentary from crazy Tobi. 5 hearts guy relished in te fact he was immortal. Pain is just sort of... doing it. Because. its just like killing mindless robots, which is dull.
Villains are one of Kishi's strongest points, and Pain is just... easily... the most boring out of the entire manga. (I still say if all of them had Sock Pain's crazy grin, this would feel ENTIRELY different and scarier, as opposed to the bored emotionless-ness.)
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Seriously, a different facial expression for Pain would make ALL the difference. His boredom and blah facial expression rubs off on the readers and makes US bored. A very very slight change would give him soooo much more personality. especially if all 6 bodies creepily shared that same kind of smile.
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Y'know, robby, you should probably hide an image that big behind a spoiler tag.
Just sayin'.
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Don't care how much people try to you''ll never be able to convince me Kiba much less TenTen are better characters much less interesting.
I agree with you.
On a side note; If anyone tries to help Naruto out, no matter who they are, Naruto dies. Simple as that.
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Y'know, robby, you should probably hide an image that big behind a spoiler tag.
Just sayin'.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I had it behind a spoiler tag all along. Really.
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Why does everyone seem to be pissed that no one's helping naruto sure the excuse may not be great but it's not like you guy's wouldn't want to see luffy in another one on one fight so why not naruto (even if the excuse is lame)
plus people complain that he got too powerful too quick but some of you guys have said you don't like training arcs and really who wants to wait another 100 chapters for naruto too get really strong just show us what he's got
Actually I like team up fights. Especially since you get to see what creative ways 2 characters can come up with to finish a fight.
And honestly HINATA needs some character development, since she doesn't do anything.
But it's more so Shikamaru's Dad telling him not to fight that grates me.
REALLY? SHIKAMARU, Does his dad even know what his son can do? O_o
And also, why isn't Sasuke here…....? He really should be.
Maybe the kids will fight Sasuke and then have Naruto take that one on one.
But maybe I'm kidding myself.
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Kishi is probably waiting for sasuke to show up and fight alongside naruto than once they finish off pain they fight each other.
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In case you didn't notice, Mugiwara Kaizoku was talking about One Piece and not Naruto
Yea I know that and either way they've both gotten like that.
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Kishi is probably waiting for sasuke to show up and fight alongside naruto than once they finish off pain they fight each other.
definitely what I fear the most after this whole turn of events
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@dirt:
definitely what I fear the most after this whole turn of events
the sad thing though I can see that happening more so than anything else. I'm still hoping that sakura punches sasuke right in the face
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I'm not ecstatic with the capture, especially since Pain doesn't even seem like the final boss anymore…given his dire situation.
Naruto hands down. Bleach biggest problem is its bad pacing and the strenght level inconsistency. But appart from that, the side characters are not puked on like it is the case in Naruto. Ok, the main protagonist is an uncharismatic bore but that's why the side characters can provide entertainment. It might not be superb writing but it still is something the other thing doesn't have. After all, a large cast of the good guys definitely isn't anywhere near to be like "don't get in Ichigos way". At least to me this is a very imporant thing on which I can rank Bleach above Naruto without a second thought.
I agree that Naruto is the bigger disappointment, but for a different reason.
Naruto's side characters are genuinely interesting, just neglected. Bleach's side characters aren't much better than the lead. For this, I'd say Naruto is worse, because it shows the author has potential but it wasting it.
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I'm not ecstatic with the capture, especially since Pain doesn't even seem like the final boss anymore…given his dire situation.
He lost the endboss charisma volumes ago when he took orders from Faildara.
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I agree that Naruto is the bigger disappointment, but for a different reason.
Naruto's side characters are genuinely interesting, just neglected. Bleach's side characters aren't much better than the lead. For this, I'd say Naruto is worse, because it shows the author has potential but it wasting it.
Another strangely lucid Terek post
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Confirmed spoiler is out
! Absorption Pain turns into a frog.
Ino and company arrives in Shikamaru's location.
Shizune is really dead.
! Fukasaku helps Naruto get away from Pain but was stopped by Pain's
attraction jutsu.
! Naruto gets stabbed by Pain in the left hand with the weird sword.
Shima sheds some tears for the fallen Fukasaku.
! Naruto asks what the hell pain is.
Pain answers by saying, "What am I? Let's talk"
! At the end, Ino's father realizes something important about Pain
End of spoiler
Source: Mangahelpers -
Confirmed spoiler is out
! Absorption Pain turns into a frog.
Ino and company arrives in Shikamaru's location.
Shizune is really dead.
! Fukasaku helps Naruto get away from Pain but was stopped by Pain's
attraction jutsu.
! Naruto gets stabbed by Pain in the left hand with the weird sword.
Shima sheds some tears for the fallen Fukasaku.
! Naruto asks what the hell pain is.
Pain answers by saying, "What am I? Let's talk"
! At the end, Ino's father realizes something important about Pain
End of spoiler
Source: Mangahelpers! Oh I get it. Absorption Pain turns into a frog cause he absorbed sage chakra. That's interesting….kind of. Now there's only the one pain left.