Man I miss the good old days
Octogon/polygon…...Phenomenol....onemoment.....and ONEinchPUNCH.
In this age of debateing men like that have certaintly dropped in number.
Man I miss the good old days
Octogon/polygon…...Phenomenol....onemoment.....and ONEinchPUNCH.
In this age of debateing men like that have certaintly dropped in number.
No, they're outside the three powers. They're powerful, but not one of them. If anything, they're a force meant to upset the balance.
Hence Revolution. Their entire purpose is topple the world goverment.
Man I miss the good old days
Octogon/polygon…...Phenomenol....onemoment.
In this age of debateing men like that have certaintly dropped in number.
You know what I kind of miss all the big who's stronger than who debates. They were just so serious (and funny half the time with the odd deluded fool making an appearance) and deep with all the in-depth explanations coming out of nowhere.
Oh and about the revolution. I thought everyone knew a revolution was the people getting together to topple the government, happened many times throughout history.
You know what I kind of miss all the big who's stronger than who debates. They were just so serious (and funny half the time with the odd deluded fool making an appearance) and deep with all the in-depth explanations coming out of nowhere.
Yea good times good times.
Three power…
Like scissor, paper and stone....
Like eat, sleep and shit..
Ok maybe not the eat, sleep and shit part but it is suppose to be balanced.
Reason being that there are such powerful people out there so the WG plan out this plan to create a balance....
IF THERE IS ONLY TWO POWER? There will always be war.
When there is three powers, they will always be on the look out for one another, always worrying about their throat.
GANG UP?
Pirates dun trust each others, WG dun trust Pirates... If WG and 7Sword gang up to KO 4Emperor, 7Sword might change side and KO WG...
Thus they will never fight one another... At least for now...
Who noes... Some great scheming guy might orchestrate the greatest GANG BANG in ONE PIECE and try to end all things. Then Luffy and gang come and save the day.
OLE! Beautiful ending.
Just had a fun tought.
What if all shichibukai's have that same 'sir' thing in their names. The same thing that Crocodile have.
It kinda make's sense. Coz' they are shichibukai's and all.
Sir Crocodile
Sir Mihawk
Sir Doflamingo
Sir Kuma and
Sir Jimbei.
What do you think?
@AD-HD:
Just had a fun tought.
What if all shichibukai's have that same 'sir' thing in their names. The same thing that Crocodile have.
It kinda make's sense. Coz' they are shichibukai's and all.
Sir Crocodile
Sir Mihawk
Sir Doflamingo
Sir Kuma and
Sir Jimbei.What do you think?
WTF?
anyway did any read/trans page 267 of the grand times. I would like to know what it says.
I think Croc was called Sir because he acted like a savior to the people.. for the others… erm... they look like they call be called Godfather.
"Sir" is just Crocodile's first name. Like Bartholomew Kuma, Juraquille/Dracule/Delacure Mihawk, Donquixote DoFlamingo, it's Sir Crocodile.
"Sir" is just Crocodile's first name. Like Bartholomew Kuma, Juraquille/Dracule/Delacure Mihawk, Donquixote DoFlamingo, it's Sir Crocodile.
I doubt that Crocodile is his real name. Sir is a title for a knight. A British Privateer had the same rank as a Knight in the army. It's similar to how Edward Elrich in FMA is also known as Major Elrich (Though he's never actually called that). Most privateers aren't referred to by their Military titles, but Sir Francis Drake was.
FYI, the female title was Dame. If you've ever read Hellsing, you've probably run across Integra Hellsing being called Sir. I guess that's Hirato-Sensei's error on understanding British Ranking. In actuality, she should be Dame Integra Wingates Fairbrook Hellsing.
Even today there are Sir's like Sir Elton John and Sir Alex ferguson.
You wouldn't catch me calling them Sir though, when they slay a dragon maybe :)
"Sir" is just Crocodile's first name. Like Bartholomew Kuma, Juraquille/Dracule/Delacure Mihawk, Donquixote DoFlamingo, it's Sir Crocodile.
crocodile may be his name (though I doubt it), but Sir is a title.
I also doubt it..
But there is a Jaguar, Monkey and Dragon. What is wrong with Crocodile. I think its cool..
Sir may be a title in real life, but in the One Piece world there's nothing implying it's the case. We haven't seen anyone else being called "sir" in the manga, if it was just an honorary title why wouldn't Oda have used sama instead?
The way I see it, Oda was inspired by the real life title like he was inspired by famous pirates or other imaginary characters to name the other shichibukais, but it doesn't mean in the context of the OP world sir is an honorary title.
It may be that Croc is a 'sir' in his home country or before he was a priate. Also in RL in the olden days long past, if you owned a lot of land you were automatically considered a 'lord' and referred to as 'sir'. The English Government also developed the practice of selling titles for money, so you could carry a lord's title but own no land abosolutely at all.
Oda explained that Croc gave himself the title Sir so that he acts more important.
the name SIR is ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
There is no way that the Shichibukai could unite and defeat the Yonkou. Possibly–and it's a very slim possibility-- if they took down the Yonkou one at a time. But otherwise, no way. Remember where Garp says it takes the combined forces of the Warlords and the Marines to balance the power of the Yonkou? The Yonkou probably have guys working for them who could attain Shichibukai status if they wanted to.
@IT'S:
There is no way that the Shichibukai could unite and defeat the Yonkou. Possibly–and it's a very slim possibility-- if they took down the Yonkou one at a time. But otherwise, no way. Remember where Garp says it takes the combined forces of the Warlords and the Marines to balance the power of the Yonkou? The Yonkou probably have guys working for them who could attain Shichibukai status if they wanted to.
Finally some real action.:devil:
Garp never said Warlords + marines = yonkou.
What he said was only the warlords and marines can fight them. any other force would fail/fall.
He used the word and not together or combined.
slim possibility of the yonkou having guys under them that can attain warlord/HOLLYWOOD pirate status easy.
Is it easy for blackbeard?…...
and I would want you 2 think about a ship that has all 7 GODS OF THE SEA on borad. you think they wont smash a few yonkou.
@Fire Fist:
Jimbei released his Gyojin crew across the globe. Why do I say across the globe and not just East Blue? Because I strongly believe that the tatoo on Arlong, Kuroobi, Chuu and Hatchi's bodies is the symbol of Jimbei's pirate crew.
This symbol here:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-3/volume8.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1623
And here:
http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-3/volume8.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=1625
The other Gyojin crewmembers are probably scaterred across the other blues and the Grand Line.
I like this theory.
Just reading this topic makes me hate WHITEBEARD with every fiber of my being. And i'm glad that i'm not alone in this sentiment.
To clear something up, if a pirate becomes a Schichibukai his ex-pirate crew must leave him or the crew can simply not be pirates and merely "followers". It's illegal to show any kindness or hospitality to pirates and people must distance themselves from them.
Why must you ignore me WHITEBEARD? It keeps me awake at night.
Stop speculating, if the schichibukai are as strong as you say they are then why doesn't the WG send them all to demolish the yonkou?
You use faulty logic. You haven't said you aren't a freaky alien with two heads. You also say men lie. Therefore, there is a high chance that you are an alien.
Stop calling people fanboys, it's not nice.
To clear something up, if a pirate becomes a Schichibukai his ex-pirate crew must leave him or the crew can simply not be pirates and merely "followers". It's illegal to show any kindness or hospitality to pirates and people must distance themselves from them.
@PantseaterOk where in the hell did you come up with this? Please show me where it says the schichibukai has to leave their crews?
@Hyper Dingo Dont hate whitebeard hate the truth, cuz it looks like its killing you.:ninja:
@Its a lion Anything is possible in manga/Anime it isnt real, so expect the unexpected.:ninja:
@Final:
@PantseaterOk where in the hell did you come up with this? Please show me where it says the schichibukai has to leave their crews?
It's never specifically said, but piracy is a crime. When famous pirates enter the employ of the WG as Shichibukai, they are exonerated for their crimes and given protection by the WG in exchange for the occassional service. Their crews are technically not in the WG employ, which makes them criminals. Therefore, it's not so much that they are asked to release their crews as they are encouraged not to associate with them.
The only person who blatantly ignores this is Doflamingo. As far as we've seen, Jimbei, B. Bear, Crocodile, and Mihawk don't associate with their crews. Either they've allowed them to go their seperate ways, or they simply have no need of a crew anymore.
@Final:
@PantseaterOk where in the hell did you come up with this? Please show me where it says the schichibukai has to leave their crews?
@Hyper Dingo Dont hate whitebeard hate the truth, cuz it looks like its killing you.:ninja:
@Its a lion Anything is possible in manga/Anime it isnt real, so expect the unexpected.:ninja:
hmmm? How is the truth killing me?
This is too sensitive a topic no-one knows if they have to leave or not there is nothing that says they do and nothing that says they don't.
If you go by logic well sure pirates are criminals then the shichibukai should not associate with their crews. Then there's the othe question maybe the crews aren't just normal pirates anymore they've become shichibukai pirates. So some like lets say arlong didn't like the idea of associating with the WG so he decided to leave convincing half or most of jinbeis crew to go with him.
But when did logic ever matter in one piece?
@Hyper:
Just reading this topic makes me hate WHITEBEARD with every fiber of my being. And i'm glad that i'm not alone in this sentiment.
Signs of a fool/trolling school girl,your not alone in that sentiment ? huh… what... you girls gonna do? make a thread about me start bad rumors about me on the internet/AP forum. LOL
Pants man show me where its stated? that the 7 gods have no crew or have to leave there crew.
my last note is that All 3 power are equal.
and pants eater I am a
Signs of a fool/trolling school girl,your not alone in that sentiment ? huh… what... you girls gonna do? make a thread about me start bad rumors about me on the internet/AP forum. LOL
Pants man show me where its stated? that the 7 gods have no crew or have to leave there crew.
my last note is that All 3 power are equal.
Keep your promise this time.
Okay, if all 3 powers are equal, why WG needs Shichibukai's?
I mean if all three powers are equal, Marine HQ could do the job just fine.
@AD-HD:
Keep your promise this time.
Okay, if all 3 powers are equal, why WG needs Shichibukai's?
I mean if all three powers are equal, Marine HQ could do the job just fine.
IM just going off the manga man.
and let me answer your question with a question
why would you tell me to keep my promise/shut up and then ask me a question?:wassat:
IM just going off the manga man.
and let me answer your question with a question
why would you tell me to keep my promise/shut up and then ask me a question?:wassat:
Because I am funny man.
Now, answer this question:
Okay, if all 3 powers are equal, why WG needs Shichibukai's?
I mean if all three powers are equal, Marine HQ could do the job just fine.
@AD-HD:
Because I am funny man.
Now, answer this question:
Okay, if all 3 powers are equal, why WG needs Shichibukai's?
I mean if all three powers are equal, Marine HQ could do the job just fine.
you are indeed funny
but back on topic
and let me answer your question with another of my own
If the 7 gods were not on the WG side what would happen to the WG?
Nothing. Because if powers are equal, Marine HQ can control Yonkou's very well. And if they are, why WG then needs Shichibukai's?
And if theyre are not, Marine HQ would be big trouble and they would need Shichibukai's. Which means:
Shichibukais + Marine HQ = Yonkous.
Guys, relax, you don't need to tear each other's heads off.
The answer is pretty simple. If the Shichibukai didn't exist, then the WG and the Yonkou would be at war with each other. Sooner or later, one would try to attack the other and all hell would break loose. With the two sides fighting, innocent bystanders would get caught in and killed. As a result, people would lose faith in their government and despair.
Having 3 equal powers is necesary because it prevents that. If the Yonkou attack Marine HQ, the Shichibukai would assist the Marines and prevent the Yonkou from mobilizing. It's a preventative measure.
However, the Shchibukai's only role would be to stop conflict, not overtake the Yonkou. If that was the case and the Yonkou were overpowered by the Shichibukai and the Marines, then there would only be two powers, and the same scenario would start all over again.
If any of the powers gains the upper hand and defeats one of the others, then the war resulting from the remaining two would cause a lot of death and suffering.
So, basically, that's why there are 3 powers. To keep everyone in check.
@AD-HD:
Nothing. Because if powers are equal, Marine HQ can control Yonkou's very well. And if they are, why WG then needs Shichibukai's?
And if theyre are not, Marine HQ would be big trouble and they would need Shichibukai's. Witch means:
Shichibukais + Marine HQ = Yonkous.
Your acting/posting as if great pirates like HAWK EYES and the other 7 gods wont be a porblem for the WG along with the yonkou. how will they be able to handle them all, there would be no balance then. the would goverment would fall.
@Fire Fist:
Guys, relax, you don't need to tear each other's heads off.
The answer is pretty simple. If the Shichibukai didn't exist, then the WG and the Yonkou would be at war with each other. Sooner or later, one would try to attack the other and all hell would break loose. With the two sides fighting, innocent bystanders would get caught in and killed. As a result, people would lose faith in their government and despair.
Having 3 equal powers is necesary because it prevents that. If the Yonkou attack Marine HQ, the Shichibukai would assist the Marines and prevent the Yonkou from mobilizing. It's a preventative measure.
However, the Shchibukai's only role would be to stop conflict, not overtake the Yonkou. If that was the case and the Yonkou were overpowered by the Shichibukai and the Marines, then there would only be two powers, and the same scenario would start all over again.
If any of the powers gains the upper hand and defeats one of the others, then the war resulting from the remaining two would cause a lot of death and suffering.
So, basically, that's why there are 3 powers. To keep everyone in check.
I like that solution. Thank you Ace.
Your acting/posting as if great pirates like HAWK EYES and the other 7 gods wont be a porblem for the WG along with the yonkou. how will they be able to handle them all, there would be no balance then. the would goverment would fall.
I don't get the point of your post.
@AD-HD:
I don't get the point of your post.
All im saying is AD HD that if the 7 gods were not cool with WG they would also do what the yonkou are doing. smash Marine/WG dogs whenever how ever.
WG vs yonkou + 7 gods = WG FALL
What's with all these damn explanations?
There equal it says it in the manga
END OF!!
What's with all these damn explanations?
There equal it says it in the manga
END OF!!
Thank you…........
I see psolaras you removed your post.
@AD-HD:
Nothing. Because if powers are equal, Marine HQ can control Yonkou's very well. And if they are, why WG then needs Shichibukai's?
Two reasons really:
1.) Because the Navy is not only tasked with fighting the Yonkou, but also has missions beyond that of fighting pirates, such as putting down rebellions that Cipher Pol failed to head off, guarding WG facilities, and general law enforcement.
2.) Because there are far more pirates in the world than fall under the control of the Yonkou alone. Simply balancing those four doesn't affect the pirates not under their control, so the Navy needs help with one or the other.
If the World Government simply had the Navy at their disposal, then the primary task of the Naval Headquarters would have to be controlling the Yonkou, which would leave even more of the world open to piracy. The Navy seems to stretched fairly thin as is and having to devote an even heftier percentage of those resources to controlling a mere handful of pirates would worsen the situation everywhere else.
With the Shichibukai around, the two groups can divide their attention between controlling the Yonkou and piracy in general. The Shichibukai cannot be trusted to the extent that the Navy can, but the Navy has other things to do while the Shichibukai can devote all of their time to fighting piracy. Every pirate crew they knock off is one less than the Navy has to worry about, which means that resources can be shifted elsewhere.
@Hyper:
hmmm? How is the truth killing me?
@Hyper Dingo: BECAUSE U CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!
@AD-HD Pirate: The SB are apart of the WG
@Ubiq: Nice job with the previous post:ninja:
Pants man show me where its stated?
Fire Fist explained it. Why must you keep ignoring me? It makes me cry.
Its A New Year!
The 3 great powers are all equal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is stated in the manga, and it was never stated that the Yonkou are the strongest world power.
PERIOD.
Its A New Year!
The 3 great powers are all equal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is stated in the manga, and it was never stated that the Yonkou are the strongest world power.
PERIOD.
You're right, WHITEBEARD.
But, it was never stated the Yonkou are equal to the other two powers. Mihawk stated that the Shichibukai and Marine HQ are equal powers. It's stated that the third great power is the Yonkou, and the marines and the Shichibukai stand against the Yonkou.
So, we're left with two possibilities:
Shichibukai + Marine HQ = Yonkou
OR
Shichibukai = Marine HQ = Yonkou
How you interpret that is to your discretion. Everyone has one opinion, everyone else has another.
Man I was such an a** in this thread last year.
But anywayz Ill go with the
Marines = Yonkou = Shichibukai
Till Oda comes along and pwns my a**.
What are the 3 powers of the world anyway?
M. HQ, 7bkai, 4k or WG, 7bkai, 4k
What are the 3 powers of the world anyway?
M. HQ, 7bkai, 4k or WG, 7bkai, 4k
Marine HQ, Shichibukai and Yonkou. The WG control the Marines and, to a certain degree, the Shichibukai.
hey guys why did u think that 3 powers is Navy(marines) , Schibukai and Four Pirate Emperors …
i think like this
1.Navy(marine)
2.Pirates
3.Revolutionaries