I think the final battle will be Luffy vs. Doflamingo because of the differences in them. Luffy believes in dreams and Doflamingo believes in a new era. Or the final battle will be Luffy vs an unknown pirate with an eyepatch.
The Final Battle
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Personally I don't see why their can't be a ton more arc's. The series itself is good and has an enourmous fanbase… Why would oda want to lose it. Also their are a LOT of unanswered questions.
But Luffy Vs. Blackbeard
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I think the finale will probably be a battle royale type event, with battles taking place everywhere.
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All remaining players gather at Raftel…Lots of ships, lots of crews etc.
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Mihawk vs Zoro (similar to Sephiroth vs Cloud from advent children but at sea)
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Luffy, Robin and Dragon on Raftel, Blackbeard and Akainu also there.. Blackbeard takes out Dragon leading to Robin vs Akainu and Luffy vs Blackbeard.
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Ussop vs Van Auger - Sanji vs Doflamingo (i think he'll be a major part) - the rest of the conflicts for the stawhats can be mixed and matched with various people who may be there.
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Ace(who i think will survive his current predicament) will handle the cannon fodder marines maybe even a Smoker rematch..
In conclusion lots of cameos for various characters but ultimately Luffy becomes the Pirate king...we see the others achieving their dreams too imo.
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@DR.:
I think the finale will probably be a battle royale type event, with battles taking place everywhere.
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All remaining players gather at Raftel…Lots of ships, lots of crews etc.
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Mihawk vs Zoro (similar to Sephiroth vs Cloud from advent children but at sea)
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Luffy, Robin and Dragon on Raftel, Blackbeard and Akainu also there.. Blackbeard takes out Dragon leading to Robin vs Akainu and Luffy vs Blackbeard.
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Ussop vs Van Auger - Sanji vs Doflamingo (i think he'll be a major part) - the rest of the conflicts for the stawhats can be mixed and matched with various people who may be there.
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Ace(who i think will survive his current predicament) will handle the cannon fodder marines maybe even a Smoker rematch..
In conclusion lots of cameos for various characters but ultimately Luffy becomes the Pirate king...we see the others achieving their dreams too imo.
Sanji vs Kizaru will be more likely to happen.
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Final battles:
Brook VS Moria
Franky VS Kuma
Robin VS Aokiji
Chopper VS Vegapunk
Usopp VS Yasopp
Sanji VS Doflamingo
Nami VS Hancock (???)
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Robin vs. any admiral seems extremely stupid to me. If anything she'll be in a fight that goes unfinished cuz of some other fight interfering and somebody will take her opponent for her(sorta like what happened in EL with Sanji and Nami). I see Robin as the one going off discovering the mysteries of OP, Raftel, Rio Poneglyph, void century, etc.(like she kinda did in Skypeia not fighting anyone but figuring shit out kinda on some Tomb Raider shit) with some other ppl we wouldn't have thought would be with her while the other fights are going on…...
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Final battles:
Brook VS Laffite
Franky VS Kuma
Robin VS Akainu
Chopper VS Vegapunk
Usopp VS Van Auge
Sanji VS Kizaru
Nami VS Lola's mom
Zoro VS Mihawk
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Luffy vs Blackbeard
Zoro vs Mihawk
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I should also add that I don't think a good # of ppl we think will be going down will not like Smoker, Aokiji, and Garp I don't see any of them losing since after the corrupted ppl in the marines are taken out somebody will have to lead the marines cuz I don't see the marines falling at the end of this manga that would be ridiculous. The WG will also have some revamping in the leadership roles.
I find it funny nobody thinks the Gorusei will pose a threat in the final battles. I think they can all fight.
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except maybe Sanji but i have no clue who against.
Kizaru, he seems to fight a lot with his legs.
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I always had a vision of Shanks getting hurt badly by Blackbeard, and Luffy gets so enraged he slams Blackbeard into Reverse Mountain, and he hits Blackbeard with such fury that it explodes the mountain, or at least the top of it. Blackbeard falls onto a plank in the ocean and gets up, but Davy Jones appears and pulls him to the bottom of the sea, where he's locked in his locker.
But honestly, the final battle? Luffy vs. Laboon, with Brooke and Crocus as spectators.
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Kizaru's a possiblilty but i think if he does fight anyone it will be someone that has yet to be introduced.
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Kizaru, he seems to fight a lot with his legs.
Sanji doesn't have to fight somebody who uses their legs to fight. Oda doesn't do that for him. he's more likely to fight someone skilled in some martial art.
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I think Shanks getting injured by Blackbeard is a good idea, a full throttle fight between Shanks and Blackbeard will show luffy what he has to surpass in Shanks. I think luffy needs to know how strong Shanks is.
At the moment he thinks of him as a great man personality wise, he needs to know how strong Shanks is personality wise too to be able to surpass him.It would also give him more motive to fight Blackbeard. -
I think Shanks getting injured by Blackbeard is a good idea, a full throttle fight between Shanks and Blackbeard will show luffy what he has to surpass in Shanks. I think luffy needs to know how strong Shanks is.
At the moment he thinks of him as a great man personality wise, he needs to know how strong Shanks is personality wise too to be able to surpass him.It would also give him more motive to fight Blackbeard.In my opinion if Luffy thinks so high about Shanks it has nothing to do with strengh of power but more about the way Shanks behave.
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Thats what i was said, he admires shanks for his personality and aspires to be like him. But i think Luffy also needs to see what a powerful man Shanks is if he aims to surpass all aspects of him.
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Thats what i was said, he admires shanks for his personality and aspires to be like him. But i think Luffy also needs to see what a powerful man Shanks is if he aims to surpass all aspects of him.
I think Blackbeard could show this and give luffy some fuel towards fighting him.Luffy doesn't need any other fuel than BB wants to rule the world and that'll eventually bump heads with his goal of being PK. Not to mention BB is the reason his brother is about to die. Plus they already don't like each other that much from meeting in Mocktown.
Luffy already knows that Shanks is strong, he spent quite awhile on Luffy's island
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Supose there is enough fuel lol.
I would say that they understood and respected eachother.
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Supose there is enough fuel lol.
I would say that they understood and respected eachother.
And i know luffy knows Shanks is strong but not on the level that he is actually on. I get the feeling Luffy thinks in a fight he could take Shanks, dont know wher from though.He thinks that about everybody until he fights them and gets his ass kicked. HE said next time he fights Ace he'll win, he even said he'd beat up WB, one of his goals is to have a better crew than SHanks and I guess he means through fighting. Luffy even said he'd be a better/stronger pirate than Mihawk.
He's a naive dumbass who talks a lot until he gets to experience it first hand, then he gets stronger after getting his ass handed to him. He still knows he can't beat Aokiji and now he just swore he'd get stronger than Kuma, Sentomaru and Kizaru, why? cuz he didn't get his ass handed to him by all of them enough(Sento only gave him a semi-ass whooping).
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Luffy will be the strongest there is.
It won't be some b.s. shadow asgard, or fake powerup, I doubt it'll even be gears.When Luffy becomes Pirate King, I think NO ONE will doubt acknowledging his PK status, in fact I think this is EXACTLY why Oda is a fucking mastermind of geniuses, Luffy's journey is slow enough that we accept he takes it one step at a time and follow him as he becomes a god of the pirating world.
No demons sealed inside of him, no b.s. powerups, just getting his ass kicked and getting back up until no one is left to knock him down.
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I also like you guys forgot about an important character: BAGGY!!!
He's Oda's favorite character and also an ex Jolly Roger Pirate. In their flashbacks it seemed obvius to me that Shanks and Baggy where on the same level so we can assume that he also can use Haki at the same or higher level than Shanks or Rayleigh. Maybe he can mix it with his DF, imagine everybody in a radius of 100m instead of fainting just being sliced in lil' parts only by Baggy's presence. -
When we first saw Buggy he was quite weak though. If he is on his way to the grand line I have no doubt that we will see him back as a seriously strong pirate but last time he wasn't worth anything.
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i wont say buggy is strong but luffy rly never beat him….nami had tied up his parts and luffy kicked the rest of buggy
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Buggy lost both time because of his stupidity and bad luck.
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Say the final battle involves Dragon's organization not BB's Crew.
Luffy will fight BB in the Raftel arc, but after the two clash for the final time Dragon shows up to put a wrench in both wannabe PK plans.
They're fighting just to become PK, Dragon is likely interested in whatever the PK didn't believe himself capable of solving or dealing with.
Really can't see everything so cut&dry as Luffy beating BB, finding OP, plays cat&mouse with Smoker&Coby the rest of his career, The End.
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The Five Stars will order the Navy to destroy the fleets of the Four Emperors while they simultaneously send a special ops team to Raftel to find the Pluton where the Straw Hats are searching for the One Piece while simultaneously duking it out with Buggy. As the battle reaches it's climax the SHs and Buggy crews are forced to team up to defeat the special ops team but also learn that the Navy is utterly destroying the Four Emperor fleets, specifially Shanks'. Damned if he shall allow another man to kill Shanks Buggy and Luffy continue their partnership by sailing towards the battle (all the while the crews bond).
When the crews arrive they find Shanks near death and are met by the three admirals. In a ultimate clash on the seas the Admirals are defeated at last. From there the war is taken to the Navy HQ…
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@Yuugi's:
The Five Stars will order the Navy to destroy the fleets of the Four Emperors while they simultaneously send a special ops team to Raftel to find the Pluton where the Straw Hats are searching for the One Piece while simultaneously duking it out with Buggy. As the battle reaches it's climax the SHs and Buggy crews are forced to team up to defeat the special ops team but also learn that the Navy is utterly destroying the Four Emperor fleets, specifially Shanks'. Damned if he shall allow another man to kill Shanks Buggy and Luffy continue their partnership by sailing towards the battle (all the while the crews bond).
When the crews arrive they find Shanks near death and are met by the three admirals. In a ultimate clash on the seas the Admirals are defeated at last. From there the war is taken to the Navy HQ…
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I figure the best end for Buggy is for him to become if not a close friend then a respected rival or something like that. Similar to Vegeta in the Boo arc.
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@Yuugi's:
I figure the best end for Buggy is for him to become if not a close friend then a respected rival or something like that. Similar to Vegeta in the Boo arc.
It is the best for him but his ego won't allow that, he's nothing compared to Shanks and now he can't even compare to a younger version of him? Buggy will continue to fight in vain and he'll embellish his stories as an old ass pirate talking about the time he almost killed the pirate king.
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@Zik:
He'll embellish his stories as an old ass pirate talking about the time he almost killed the pirate king.
That's no exaggeration though.
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@Yuugi's:
The Five Stars will order the Navy to destroy the fleets of the Four Emperors while they simultaneously send a special ops team to Raftel to find the Pluton where the Straw Hats are searching for the One Piece while simultaneously duking it out with Buggy. As the battle reaches it's climax the SHs and Buggy crews are forced to team up to defeat the special ops team but also learn that the Navy is utterly destroying the Four Emperor fleets, specifially Shanks'. Damned if he shall allow another man to kill Shanks Buggy and Luffy continue their partnership by sailing towards the battle (all the while the crews bond).
When the crews arrive they find Shanks near death and are met by the three admirals. In a ultimate clash on the seas the Admirals are defeated at last. From there the war is taken to the Navy HQ…
I think at some point Buggy is gonna find Shanks in a near death position just next a powerfull man or woman and that he will burst into some kind of rage and totally crush the man or woman. Shanks will thank him and Buggy will be like: "don't you fucking thank me, I just did it because I can't allow somebody else than me to kill you".
@Zik:
It is the best for him but his ego won't allow that, he's nothing compared to Shanks and now he can't even compare to a younger version of him? Buggy will continue to fight in vain and he'll embellish his stories as an old ass pirate talking about the time he almost killed the pirate king.
I think you're underestimating Buggy, he's stupid and has no luck but don't forget that he's cruel and can almost dodge attacks like the Logias.
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I don't think the last battle will be a solo battle. But i think it's be all SH vs one enemy.
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@Yuugi's:
The Five Stars will order the Navy to destroy the fleets of the Four Emperors while they simultaneously send a special ops team to Raftel to find the Pluton where the Straw Hats are searching for the One Piece while simultaneously duking it out with Buggy. As the battle reaches it's climax the SHs and Buggy crews are forced to team up to defeat the special ops team but also learn that the Navy is utterly destroying the Four Emperor fleets, specifially Shanks'. Damned if he shall allow another man to kill Shanks Buggy and Luffy continue their partnership by sailing towards the battle (all the while the crews bond).
When the crews arrive they find Shanks near death and are met by the three admirals. In a ultimate clash on the seas the Admirals are defeated at last. From there the war is taken to the Navy HQ…
do u think marines can destroy the four emperors?? i don't think so. sengoku,garp,three admirals,vice admirals vs WB,Shanks,Kaidou,Unknown Younkou. This four emperors also has strong crew like ace,marco,3rd division commander from wb crew forgot his name, ben beckman,yassop,rockstar,fat guy from shanks crew, and then im pretty sure kaidou and the unknown younkou has also strong crew.
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I think you're underestimating Buggy, he's stupid and has no luck but don't forget that he's cruel and can almost dodge attacks like the Logias.
Logia users don't dodge attacks they let them pass through them.
I'm sorry but I can't underestimate Buggy cuz there is nothing much there to begin with. IMO as a pirate he's very close to a failure. Even with bad luck you'd think someone who use to be on the PK's pirate crew and a crewmate of someone who is now a yonkou would be a lot stronger or skilled in battle.
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@Zik:
Logia users don't dodge attacks they let them pass through them.
I'm sorry but I can't underestimate Buggy cuz there is nothing much there to begin with. IMO as a pirate he's very close to a failure. Even with bad luck you'd think someone who use to be on the PK's pirate crew and a crewmate of someone who is now a yonkou would be a lot stronger or skilled in battle.
What's the weakness about Buggy's fighting ability?
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What's the weakness about Buggy's fighting ability?
The only weaknesses I can think is stupidity and bad luck.
If you know any other weakness, please let me know.We haven't seen him split Vertically or Diagonally, only Horizontally. To be more precise, he can't split body parts vertically, like his head (can only seperate it at the neck), can't seperate individual digits (fingers and toes), can't split his body vertically (Can seperate his torso from his hips, but not the left half of his body from the right half), and can't seperate features (eyes, nose, ears, etc.). So he can still be hit.
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I am going to have to go against the odds and say the Red-Haired Shanks pirate crew is the final villian. Also along with Mihawk.
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What's the weakness about Buggy's fighting ability?
The only weaknesses I can think is stupidity and bad luck.
If you know any other weakness, please let me know.You didn't pay much attention to that fight did you?
Buggy's weakness is that when he is separating his body parts he can not move his lower half(torso/legs/feet). So while he has his head, arms, hands flying around attacking all a strong person would have to do is burst through that first attack and attack his legs. Also Buggy can still be hit so if somebody hits him in the head and he gets knocked out FIGHT OVER.
If he really has no weaknesses other than bad luck why doesn't he have a higher bounty? why is his crew so shitty? HIs Df is cool but he himself is not really all that great in a fight.
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@Zik:
You didn't pay much attention to that fight did you?
Buggy's weakness is that when he is (torso/legs/feet). So while he has his head, arms, hands flying around attacking all a strong person would have to do is burst through that first attack and attack his legs. Also Buggy can still be hit so if somebody hits him in the head and he gets knocked out FIGHT OVER.
If he really has no weaknesses other than bad luck why doesn't he have a higher bounty? why is his crew so shitty? HIs Df is cool but he himself is not really all that great in a fight.
Even when he's separating his body parts he can move his lower half.
It's not the level of the bounty that counts.
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Even when he's separating his body parts he can move his lower half.
It's not the level of the bounty that counts.
Doesn't the name Marshall D Teach ring a bell to you?The bounty counts in this discussion. I didn't say he's not strong cuz he doesn't have a high bounty. I'm saying he doesn't have a high bounty cuz he is not a real threat. You can't use BB as a reference since he is a shichi now, he purposley laid low in WB's crew not to be seen as a threat DUH!
Also, no he can't move his lower half when he's moving his other parts around. He has to keep some part of his body on the ground at all times. It's never been shown where all of his body parts are floating in the air attacking. something has to be on the ground and that is his weak point.
Oh and someone was saying we don't know if Buggy could separate other parts of his body. Oda answered that in a SBS
One of Oda's more mature SBS questions asked if Buggy's lower regions were also able to split and fly off. Oda replied 'yes' as every part of Buggy's body could fly off.
I took that from the trivia on the onepiece.wikia page on Buggy's profile.
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I've posted this teory in several pages, but in order for blackbeard to be the final boss he has to change the world, there is a point nearing where most of the strongest characters are gathering in one place, for the WB war, even if someone could predict it, the best that could happen if that BlackBeard kills all the WB pirates, the top marines (minus akainu, for his crazy policies for him to take Sengoku's rank) and Some of the Shikibukai.
The best way to get to the top when the world is filled with people stronger than you, is to get rid of them and move on to the top, while the others are triying to fill the blanks.
The power of a black hole is a factible mean to eliminate all the needed victims.
If BB doesn't kick the board he won't be the final battle.
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@Zik:
I took that from the trivia on the onepiece.wikia page on Buggy's profile.
Vol.12 Chapter 103
16 Characters of confirmation.
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16 Blackbeards. :J
Edit: Who could be a better final enemy for luffy than a dark, evil insane-logia-powers-possesing version of luffy?
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A full on war that includes every fighting character that has ever existed.
Kaku fighting Kuro.
Enel fighting Garp.
Aokiji fighting Ace.Admit it. Every character needs to meet up once again for a final explosion of battle.
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Massive warship cannon-battle with the Monster trio at the back of the Sunny firing attacks, Franky manning the ship and Nami coveting One Piece. They are escaping from… navy maybe.
It will happen.
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@Zik:
The bounty counts in this discussion. I didn't say he's not strong cuz he doesn't have a high bounty. I'm saying he doesn't have a high bounty cuz he is not a real threat. You can't use BB as a reference since he is a shichi now, he purposley laid low in WB's crew not to be seen as a threat DUH!
Also, no he can't move his lower half when he's moving his other parts around. He has to keep some part of his body on the ground at all times. It's never been shown where all of his body parts are floating in the air attacking. something has to be on the ground and that is his weak point.
Oh and someone was saying we don't know if Buggy could separate other parts of his body. Oda answered that in a SBS
I took that from the trivia on the onepiece.wikia page on Buggy's profile.
Can you read?
I said that he still can move his lower half when he's separating his body parts.
And beside that, « something has to be on the ground and that is his weak point. » is total bullshit.
Proof:
@Fire Fist:We haven't seen him split Vertically or Diagonally, only Horizontally. To be more precise, he can't split body parts vertically, like his head (can only seperate it at the neck), can't seperate individual digits (fingers and toes), can't split his body vertically (Can seperate his torso from his hips, but not the left half of his body from the right half), and can't seperate features (eyes, nose, ears, etc.). So he can still be hit.
Who said he can't, when he launched his bara bara canon at Luffy, Luffy grabbed his already separrated arm but then his arm still separrated and was able to scrath Luffy. When Zoro cut him Horizontally it had no effect so by your statement if Zoro had cut him Vertically or Diagonally, he would be dead?
@Zik:
You didn't pay much attention to that fight did you?
Buggy's weakness is that when he is separating his body parts he can not move his lower half(torso/legs/feet). So while he has his head, arms, hands flying around attacking all a strong person would have to do is burst through that first attack and attack his legs. Also Buggy can still be hit so if somebody hits him in the head and he gets knocked out FIGHT OVER.
If he really has no weaknesses other than bad luck why doesn't he have a higher bounty? why is his crew so shitty? HIs Df is cool but he himself is not really all that great in a fight.
I didn't say he CAN'T get hit.
It's not because he CAN get hit that he can't dodge it.The power of a black hole is a factible mean to eliminate all the needed victims.
This power enable Teach to lock and crush something or someone inside "his dimension" before releasing them. Witch means he can trap and kill a lot of people(Marines, Shishibukai,WB Pirates and even Shanks Pirates if they're joining) during the upcoming WB war.
Aokiji fighting Ace.
Ice vs Fire?
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