Strange Gun Whit's design is obviously inspired by the yaoi hands phenomenon. His nickname, "Strange gun" supports this theory. First of all, guns are very phallic objects and what's that other word that means strange? Queer. Oda is secret yaoi admirer. I am a detective.
Nobody including Oda has any clue what you're going about hth.
@Monkey:
Nobody including Oda has any clue what you're going about hth.
I understand that my vast, vast pop cultural knowledge and my incredible detectivical skills of putting two and two together sparks envious rage in weak hearted men, causing them to shut their eyes from the truth.
There's something flying over your head.
I understand that my vast, vast pop cultural knowledge and my incredible detectivical skills of putting two and two together sparks envious rage in weak hearted men, causing them to shut their eyes from the truth.
There's something flying over your head.
Weird niche internet culture terminology is not "pop culture".
Strange Gun Whit's design is obviously inspired by the yaoi hands phenomenon. His nickname, "Strange gun" supports this theory. First of all, guns are very phallic objects and what's that other word that means strange? Queer. Oda is secret yaoi admirer. I am a detective.
His nickname is "Kaiju".
It's a monster movie reference. "Ju" means "gun", "Kaiju" means "monster", thus "Kaiju" in this context would be "Monster Gun". It's a pun.
Oh, and speaking of Vito (not Whit), here's his likely inspiration, Vito Genovese.
@Monkey:
Weird niche internet culture terminology is not "pop culture".
Bless your heart.
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His nickname is "Monster Gun".
And it's a monster movie reference. Kaiju = Monster Gun. It's a pun.
Oh, and speaking of Vito (not Whit), here's his likely inspiration, Vito Genovese.
Still doesn't dismiss my theory. What do many ignorant people think queer people are? Monsters.
Bless your heart.
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Still doesn't dismiss my theory. What do many ignorant people think queer people are? Monsters.
I don't think this reasoning works in Japanese.
Are you saying people think Godzilla is LGBT?
I don't think this works in Japanese.
Are you saying LGBT people are Godzilla?
Godzilla is very LGBT. Very misunderstood creature, who people shun because they are afraid of things they do no understand. They're afraid of the unknown. And look at this:
Those tanks can represent the hatred directed at Godzilla, but they can be read as an symbol of homoerotic lust. This is obviously meant to read as an gay bukkake scene.
(For real tho it's 5 am how far do I have to take this that it's obvious I just felt like making a stupid little joke sheesh)
Godzilla is very LGBT. Very misunderstood creature, who people shun because they are afraid of things they do no understand. They're afraid of the unknown. And look at this:
http://i.imgur.com/VabxEEI.jpg
Those tanks can represent the hatred directed at Godzilla, but they can be read as an symbol of homoerotic lust. This is obviously meant to read as an gay bukkake scene.
(For real tho it's 5 am how far do I have to take this that it's obvious I just felt like making a stupid little joke sheesh)
Well, you took it as far as Godzilla tank bukkake, so I think you should just stop.
It was hilarious PotentPork 
Godzilla is very LGBT. Very misunderstood creature, who people shun because they are afraid of things they do no understand. They're afraid of the unknown. And look at this:
http://i.imgur.com/VabxEEI.jpg
Those tanks can represent the hatred directed at Godzilla, but they can be read as an symbol of homoerotic lust. This is obviously meant to read as an gay bukkake scene.
(For real tho it's 5 am how far do I have to take this that it's obvious I just felt like making a stupid little joke sheesh)
LOL.that's a good one
I just use this conversation to post this pic:
Let's call it evidence.
So I randomly rewatched Brazil today and was surprised to see something so familiar, though it isn't really too shocking given how much Oda picked up from other Gilliam films. Appears very very briefly towards the end of a long bizarre dream sequence but it's undoubtedly the inspiration for Pica. Powers, face, maybe even the voice. Video should start at the timestamp but if not he appears around 6min 50sec.
(Sorry if this is a repost, I skimmed through and didn't see anything besides Cee Lo Green when I searched. :ninja:)
Does anyone know the full list of real life places which were reflected in One Piece? Off the top of my head I know:
Alabasta: Egypt
Water 7: Venice
Dressrosa: Spain with a bit of Italy in the Colosseum
Zou: Yemen
Are there any others which I'm not aware of / have forgotten?
Does anyone know the full list of real life places which were reflected in One Piece? Off the top of my head I know:
Alabasta: Egypt
Water 7: Venice
Dressrosa: Spain with a bit of Italy in the Colosseum
Zou: YemenAre there any others which I'm not aware of / have forgotten?
there's a little of Florence in logue Town
and of course shandora takes from many pre-columbian civilizations,while the shandia's village is native american
Does anyone know the full list of real life places which were reflected in One Piece? Off the top of my head I know:
Alabasta: Egypt
Water 7: Venice
Dressrosa: Spain with a bit of Italy in the Colosseum
Zou: Yemen
Full list assumes it's some easy checklist, and that Oda hasn't used countless tiny elements from all sorts of places. And in many cases mixed them.
For instance saying "Zou is reflected by Yemen" is horribly wrong and false. I think a couple buildings there were influenced by some Yemen buildings, while other buildings were influenced by Iran and some other places. I hope you don't think Yemen is a lush jungle country lol.
Sometimes it's not even exactly "places" so much as cultural ideas that might be spread really far around. Like the nomadic steppe culture stuff seen on Long Ring Long Island.
Oda rarely just takes one place and bases everything around it that simply.
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and of course shandora takes from many pre-columbian civilizations,while the shandia's village is native american
These are basically the same thing.
Shandora and the moon city (so possibly the Ancient Kingdom as well) have a mix of Aztec and Maya styling to them. Shandora in particular is very Maya.
Does anyone know the full list of real life places which were reflected in One Piece? Off the top of my head I know:
Alabasta: Egypt
Water 7: Venice
Dressrosa: Spain with a bit of Italy in the Colosseum
Zou: YemenAre there any others which I'm not aware of / have forgotten?
Enies Lobby's main gate is inspired by Bad Boujeloud in Fez, Morocco
Bab Boujeloud, Fez
The architecture in Enies Lobby is very reminiscent of the one that is present in North Africa(Moorish architecture) in general and Morocco in particular.
@Monkey:
Full list assumes it's some easy checklist, and that Oda hasn't used countless tiny elements from all sorts of places. And in many cases mixed them.
For instance saying "Zou is reflected by Yemen" is horribly wrong and false. I think a couple buildings there were influenced by some Yemen buildings, while other buildings were influenced by Iran and some other places. I hope you don't think Yemen is a lush jungle country lol.
Sometimes it's not even exactly "places" so much as cultural ideas that might be spread really far around. Like the nomadic steppe culture stuff seen on Long Ring Long Island.
Oda rarely just takes one place and bases everything around it that simply.
Fair enough, I thought that was obvious. Naturally he uses numerous combinations of real life elements, I don't question that. I just don't tend to spend a lot of time carefully elaborating on every term I use or question I ask on this forum unless I feel like it's absolutely crucial. Perhaps "overview of places in One Piece which stood out as being modeled on particular countries or cultures in its architecture" gets the point across better. This obviously doesn't have to be one country, nor does the place in One Piece have to be entirely modeled on it (like the Enies Lobby gate and the buildings in Loguetown which Maju and ladyhawke have kindly pointed out, in which neither place can be said to be modeled on a country as such, but do visibly contain elements). Examples that come to mind of places being more broadly modeled on real life places are Alabasta being largely inspired by Egypt as Oda himself said, or Dressrosa drawing quite a lot from Spain and containing the Roman Colosseum. Doesn't have to mean that anything is modeled on one thing per se; I don't recall much of when I first read the discussion about Zou containing Yemeni architecture, but as you point out much of Zou was also inspired by Iran and other places. Those are the things I was looking for, in an (easy-to-read but naturally sketchy) overview.
Fair enough, I thought that was obvious. Naturally he uses numerous combinations of real life elements, I don't question that. I just don't tend to spend a lot of time carefully elaborating on every term I use or question I ask on this forum unless I feel like it's absolutely crucial. Perhaps "overview of places in One Piece which stood out as being modeled on particular countries or cultures in its architecture" gets the point across better. This obviously doesn't have to be one country, nor does the place in One Piece have to be entirely modeled on it (like the Enies Lobby gate and the buildings in Loguetown which Maju and ladyhawke have kindly pointed out, in which neither place can be said to be modeled on a country as such, but do visibly contain elements). Examples that come to mind of places being more broadly modeled on real life places are Alabasta being largely inspired by Egypt as Oda himself said, or Dressrosa drawing quite a lot from Spain and containing the Roman Colosseum. Doesn't have to mean that anything is modeled on one thing per se; I don't recall much of when I first read the discussion about Zou containing Yemeni architecture, but as you point out much of Zou was also inspired by Iran and other places. Those are the things I was looking for, in an (easy-to-read but naturally sketchy) overview.
Zou isn't modeled on Iran either. Oda's just using some architecture inspiration from a few middle east places.
Then putting those things in a jungle with the theme of an animal-person tribe.
It's like Amazon Lilly, which had Chinese looking architecture but wasn't really inspired by China otherwise in any way.
In Zou's case, while Claw city had some buildings that are reminiscent of Yemen, the whale forest's building are actually inspired by Indonesia
So yeah Oda likes to mix styles and takes inspiration from different places, and uses them as he sees fit without really paying too much attention to whether they belong to the same period or country.
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@Monkey:
Zou isn't modeled on Iran either. Oda's just using some architecture inspiration from a few middle east places.
Then putting those things in a jungle with the theme of an animal-person tribe.It's like Amazon Lilly, which had Chinese looking architecture but wasn't really inspired by China otherwise in any way.
I'm sorry but Zou doesn't look much like Iran, pre or post Islamic.
The gates in Zou are the same as the ones in Sanaa
And even the buildings look a lot like those in Sanaa, the capital of Yemen.
I could argue that since these countries are all in the Middle East they look similar, but in reality each one has a rather distinct architecture. Iran uses more tiles, blue especially for mosques etc and more domes, while in Yemen the buildings are more square, and the dominant color is ochre.
I'm sorry but Zou doesn't look much like Iran, pre or post Islamic.
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=9201&page=98&p=3545591&viewfull=1#post3545591
I could argue that since these countries are all in the Middle East they look similar, but in reality each one has a rather distinct architecture.
Not really. Yemen does have extremely distinct architecture, but even you mentioned that North Africa shares lots of architectural styles. And that's at least three countries your talking about as one if you mean the nations along the Atlas.
Otherwise your kidding yourself if you think the largely modern borders are each distinct architectural cultures.Iran uses more tiles, blue especially for mosques etc and more domes, while in Yemen the buildings are more square, and the dominant color is ochre.
Iran's history goes back forever ago, they have lots of eras and periods. They have a diverse set of architecture within their borders from across time and space. Also unlike an isolated mountain corner zone like Yemen they're dead center along historical routes of all sorts of movements. You can't really say "Iranian architecture is like this" like you can for Yemen.
@Monkey:
http://www.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=9201&page=98&p=3545591&viewfull=1#post3545591
That's actually quite common in the Middle east, having caves and even buildings carved in mountains and there's even temples like the Khazneh.
Not really. Yemen does have extremely distinct architecture, but even you mentioned that North Africa shares lots of architectural styles. And that's at least three countries your talking about as one if you mean the nations along the Atlas.
Otherwise your kidding yourself if you think the largely modern borders are each distinct architectural cultures.
To those who don't know much about middle east they do. I never said I personally believed that, on the contrary as the rest of my post showed. But I'm not kidding myself whatsoever, while it is true that each of the North African countries have things in common, they also have their own variants, for example when it comes to the interiors, especially the tiles. Tunisia have their own style of tiles which looks nothing like the ones found in Morocco and Algeria. Even the buildings are different since they tend to like to color them in white and blue, while in Morocco especially in the south they are often ochre.
Iran's history goes back forever ago, they have lots of eras and periods. They have a diverse set of architecture within their borders from across time and space. Also unlike an isolated mountain corner zone like Yemen they're dead center along historical routes of all sorts of movements. You can't really say "Iranian architecture is like this" like you can for Yemen.
But the buildings I showed are clearly based of Yemen, since it's not on an open route like Iran.Yemen's is more distinct because it hasn't been too influenced by other cultures and architectures.
That's actually quite common in the Middle east, having caves and even buildings carved in mountains and there's even temples like the Khazneh.
That's nice and all but those Persian structures look identical to the ones on Zou. And most certainly don't look like the Petra building you're mentioning. Which is in Jordan and not Yemen, so I'm really not sure why you're being resistant to something Iranian also being Zou based.
To those who don't know much about middle east they do.
What does?
But I'm not kidding myself whatsoever, while it is true that each of the North African countries have things in common, they also have their own variants
Variants that probably exist within the larger countries there like Algeria as well. That has nothing to do with the modern states.
Obsessing on the modern borders when discussing old architecture is seriously nonsensical sorry. Morocco has a stronger legacy of the modern state existing as based on something historical, but the other ones are cobbled together from at best city-state origins., for example when it comes to the interiors, especially the tiles. Tunisia have their own style of tiles which looks nothing like the ones found in Morocco and Algeria.
Really? I bet the tiles differ in the same manner between the regions around Oran and Constantine as well. Unless you're suggesting the French normalized tile architecture across the territory that eventually became Algeria. Which would be very strange to hear.
Even the buildings are different since they tend to like to color them in white and blue, while in Morocco especially in the south they are often ochre.
Especially in the South, hmm. What about north Morocco. Different than the south I imagine!
@Monkey:
That's nice and all but those Persian structures look identical to the ones on Zou. And most certainly don't look like the Petra building you're mentioning. Which is in Jordan and not Yemen, so I'm really not sure why you're being resistant to something Iranian also being Zou based.
I was just giving an exemple . And I don't see the persian rock relief that are usually seen on Naqsh e rostam, you know these
It's just that the notion of people carving a mountain and living in it is not something unique to Iran, and is found all over Middle Eastern countries, so it's not that conclusive imo. The style of architecture of the buildings is on the other hand, and those are based on Yemen.But looks to me that either way it could end up being that Oda used two different countries, since the gate is definitely Bab El Yemen from Sana'a.
What does?
Why don't you try making a guess?
Variants that probably exist within the larger countries there like Algeria as well. That has nothing to do with the modern states.
Obsessing on the modern borders when discussing old architecture is seriously nonsensical sorry. Morocco has a stronger legacy of the modern state existing as based on something historical, but the other ones are cobbled together from at best city-state origins.
Lol seems to me that you're the one obsessing about it, since you're the one who ended up bringing up borders into this.
Really? I bet the tiles differ in the same manner between the regions around Oran and Constantine as well. Unless you're suggesting the French normalized tile architecture across the territory that eventually became Algeria. Which would be very strange to hear.
It's rather distinct yes, I find it to be actually closer to Spanish tiles. Not sure about that but the French (and even Spanish) did import their own building techniques to all the countries they colonized, and they even created a new style of architecture called Neo Moorish which is basically their romanticized vision of the original Moorish style.
Especially in the South, hmm. What about north Morocco. Different than the south I imagine!
Of course, but that doesn't exclude the fact there can be some noticeable differences. Tunisia for example is more influenced by the other Middle Eastern countries such as Egypt than Morocco or Algeria, because historically Tunisia has always been more influenced by the East and even the Ottoman empire. They were even ruled by an Ottoman dynasty iirc. The remaining two countries were more influenced by Al Andalus, since they housed many Moriscos who were kicked out of Spain. And they ended bringing with them the techniques and style of building that was found in Muslim Spain before la Reconquista.Tunisia also housed them but not as much as the other two. So one is more influenced by the Eastern countries, while the others perpetuated the style that was prominent in Spain, and almost to the letter. But that doesn't mean that things are that clear cut, since throughout history all those countries were influenced by many other cultures through trade and even colonization, and they created their own style(s), just because there are similarities doesn't make them homogenous, so even if you do visit one of them you'll end up finding that you should in fact visit all three, since they are so rich and have their own culture and style of architecture^^
It's just that the notion of people carving a mountain and living in it is not something unique to Iran, and is found all over Middle Eastern countries, so it's not that conclusive imo.
You're obviously not looking at the photos in the earlier post and the One Piece panel I linked. They are literally identical structures.
I'm not arguing anything about wall buildings, I'm arguing those same exact wall buildings.
Let's go over this again.
The wall things in Zou. The real life ones.
But looks to me that either way it could end up being that Oda used two different countries, since the gate is definitely Bab El Yemen from Sana'a.
Well he's definitely not outright using Yemen due to absolutely nothing else about Zou being like Yemen. You're talking like Zou is to Yemen what Dressrosa was to Spain. And um…nope?
Why don't you try making a guess?
I was legitimately confused what you were talking about there.
Lol seems to me that you're the one obsessing about it, since you're the one who ended up bringing up borders into this.
You asserted that people shouldn't assume things aren't different in each country, which relies on some fundamentally unique history to what are like 75% modern creations border wise loosely based on historical or cultural cores if they even are at all.
It's rather distinct yes, I find it to be actually closer to Spanish tiles. Not sure about that but the French (and even Spanish) did import their own building techniques to all the countries they colonized, and they even created a new style of architecture called Neo Moorish which is basically their romanticized vision of the original Moorish style.
But of course the French also controlled most of Morocco and all of Tunisia. So the idea that the French are responsible for the modern countries in question having distinct from eachother architecture is uh….questionable to say the least.
Of course, but that doesn't exclude the fact there can be some noticeable differences. Tunisia for example is more influenced by the other Middle Eastern countries such as Egypt than Morocco or Algeria, because historically Tunisia has always been more influenced by the East and even the Ottoman empire.
Has it really? More than much of Algeria which it's directly next to and shares geographic zones (Atlas Mountains) and features with? And cultural ties like a remaining strong sense of Berber identity?
The transitional area I would identify as Libya, definitely not Tunisia.
As for Ottoman influence, Algeria had that same vassal relationship with it's piracy city states. Even Morocco kinda had some of that but it was very weak yes.
Even a glance at their cuisine, it doesn't look Eastern Mediterranean in particular. Which suggests weak links to that Byzantine-Ottoman cultural sphere, something shared across modern religious boundaries and across socio-geographic concepts like "Europe vs Middle East".They were even ruled by an Ottoman dynasty iirc.
So did Algeria. In fact they treated Algiers as the more important regional hub. Both areas had loose vassal relationships with Constantinople though. Kinda like Romania and even eventually Egypt.
The remaining two countries were more influenced by Al Andalus, since they housed many Moriscos who were kicked out of Spain.
Tunisia also received Moriscos. Tunisia's basis as a "thing" was that it was the site of a strong urban center. Of course people flocked there like they did Algiers and the others.
Tunisia also housed them but not as much as the other two.
Yet they did. And not in some totally irrelevant degree.
So one is more influenced by the Eastern countries,
You haven't demonstrated this at all though, aside from asserting Ottoman influence…which also existed exactly the same in Algeria.
And you're overlooking the fundamental North African cultural influence of Berber culture that exists in Tunisia as well, and barely exists in Libya, and doesn't really exist at all past that.while the others perpetuated the style that was prominent in Spain, and almost to the letter. But that doesn't mean that things are that clear cut, since throughout history all those countries were
Throughout history Tunisia and Algeria didn't exist. Though Morocco kinda did, I'll give you that. It has basis in consistent monarchies native to that near exact zone.
Tunisia can have it's arguments as being centered around an old urban core, but not some uber-isolated unique one. Algeria meanwhile was cobbled together from a couple different urban cores.
This is even more of a problematic thing when you start applying this to countries like Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Or the rest of Africa especially.influenced by many other cultures through trade and even colonization, and they created their own style(s), just because there are similarities doesn't make them homogenous, so even if you do visit one of them you'll end up finding that you should in fact visit all three, since they are so rich and have their own culture and style of architecture^^
I've visited the other side of the sea, Greece, Cyprus, and Turkey.
I understand some of what you're saying. Cyprus for instance while dominated by Greek culture still has distinctions from Greece.
But…it's an island. That's pretty far away from Greece. Modern independence of it isn't the reason for the distinctness.
The issue I'm taking is you're fixated on modern borders. Which ignores actual history of sub-cultural distinctions.
You seem to for instance put more of a premium on Tunisia being different because it's an independent nation these days. While seeming a bit dismissive of differences between north and south Morocco because of them being within the same borders. Culture doesn't follow modern borders like that. Especially not historical culture.If anything I'm suggesting an even greater level of cultural diversity, one that puts importance on the culture and not the borders.
The queen Boadicea was probably an inspiration for Boa hancock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica
Did Oda get the "Nin Nin" phrase from Ninja Hattori-kun? Is there some other manga or anime that made the Nin Nin saying BEFORE Ninja Hattori-kun?
Did Oda get the "Nin Nin" phrase from Ninja Hattori-kun? Is there some other manga or anime that made the Nin Nin saying BEFORE Ninja Hattori-kun?
Did Oda get the "Nin Nin" phrase from Ninja Hattori-kun? Is there some other manga or anime that made the Nin Nin saying BEFORE Ninja Hattori-kun?
I'm no expert on this, and I'm only relating what I've heard before, but I think Ninja Hattori-kun was the first to use nin nin and subsequently popularized and cemented that idea in Japan's pop cultural image of ninjas.
So Oda might not be using nin nin because he was directly inspired by Hattori-kun, but more because that's what the general Japanese community associates with ninjas.
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@O:
The queen Boadicea was probably an inspiration for Boa hancock https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica
Aside from what Cyan posted, Boudica isn't the same thing as Boadica, and it's usually pronounced like "Boo-dica" to begin with in case you have it in your head that it sounds anything like "Boa".
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Did Oda get the "Nin Nin" phrase from Ninja Hattori-kun? Is there some other manga or anime that made the Nin Nin saying BEFORE Ninja Hattori-kun?
It's common in Japanese to make little phrases and things with two one syllable repetitions of a little word. The whole Devil Fruit naming scheme is the same sort of thing.
Not saying it can't be a reference, but it's the sort of thing that seems like any given Japanese person might come up with when thinking things a cartoon Ninja might say.
@Monkey:
You're obviously not looking at the photos in the earlier post and the One Piece panel I linked. They are literally identical structures.
I'm not arguing anything about wall buildings, I'm arguing those same exact wall buildings.Let's go over this again.
The wall things in Zou. The real life ones.
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Nice find, MK.
As Long as no one finds a Country that is placed upon a giant elephant in the real world, your walls are the best reference of ispiration of Zou.
But ladyhawke also found some good reference buildings. Now we know where Oda went during his vacation.
Nekomamushi is definetely based on Garfield and the cat from Alice in wonderland, BUT HIS LAUGHTER made me think of Darunia, the goron leader in Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time.
And if Boa is based on anyone, it is probably Medusa from the greek myth. She also had 2 sisters. But in greek myth Medusa was the youngest.
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His nickname is "Kaiju".
It's a monster movie reference. "Ju" means "gun", "Kaiju" means "monster", thus "Kaiju" in this context would be "Monster Gun". It's a pun.
Oh, and speaking of Vito (not Whit), here's his likely inspiration, Vito Genovese.
I hope Bege's home port is called "Costa Nostra"!
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Oh and Raftel is so Atlantis, cause why hasn't someone bumped into it coincidentally? Finding those 4 RPs might not be enough, that Island has to emerge if you ask me.
Nekomamushi is definetely based on Garfield and the cat from Alice in wonderland, BUT HIS LAUGHTER made me think of Darunia, the goron leader in Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time.
I'd like to comment on this in particular. The 'goro' sound is how the Japanese write the sound of a rumble, or a purr. Nekomamushi is purring whenever he begins to laugh.
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Nice find, MK.
I didn't find it, if you look at the first time I link her to those it's someone elses post from here.
As Long as no one finds a Country that is placed upon a giant elephant in the real world, your walls are the best reference of ispiration of Zou.
Um no not really. For starters the debate was pointing out that the buildings on Zou had multiple different sources of inspiration including I think also something from Indonesia.
The idea of the island clearly isn't based on any one real life place. It's based more on basic fantasy concepts like "civilization on large living thing" and "society of animal people".
But ladyhawke also found some good reference buildings. Now we know where Oda went during his vacation.
Well he sure as hell didn't go to Yemen lollllllllll
Oda can't be visiting all the real life places he visits, he does his research is all.
I hope Bege's home port is called "Costa Nostra"!
Costa Nostra means "our thing". Be kinda strange.
@Monkey:
Costa Nostra means "our thing". Be kinda strange.
It actually means "our coast". "Thing" would be "cosa", not "costa".
It actually means "our coast". "Thing" would be "cosa", not "costa".
Oh lol, I didn't notice the added "t".
@Monkey:
Oh lol, I didn't notice the added "t".
I figured hehe. Romance languages are pretty interchangeable, so I though I was on to something there, just from speaking portuguese 
@Cyan:
she was a queen warrior, took back her island because her and her 2 daugters were treated real bad (for andcok was her 2 sisters but it's pretty close), is it good enough for you?
@O:
she was a queen warrior, took back her island because her and her 2 daugters were treated real bad (for andcok was her 2 sisters but it's pretty close), is it good enough for you?
If Hancock and the rest of Amazon Lily were in any way Celtic yeah sure.
There's about 20 ways to spell Boudica's name, none of which are pronounced like "Boa" is.
@Cyan:
If Hancock and the rest of Amazon Lily were in any way Celtic yeah sure.
There's about 20 ways to spell Boudica's name, none of which are pronounced like "Boa" is.
wat about this speling :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1519322/Boadicea-may-have-had-her-chips-on-site-of-McDonalds.html
Maybe in does work in english but it does in other language, like frensh or japanese (especialy if Oda read about it, he would just copy pace the letter he sees to create a new name)
@O:
wat about this speling :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1519322/Boadicea-may-have-had-her-chips-on-site-of-McDonalds.htmlMaybe in does work in english but it does in other language, like frensh or japanese (especialy if Oda read about it, he would just copy pace the letter he sees to create a new name)
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way in Japanese either. Seeing Oda's rather poor grasp on English, if he had read about queen Boudicea, he would've read it in Japanese.
In which case, the spelling would be different and use different characters (sharing only the 'bo' between Boudicea and Boa).
So still pretty unlikely.
Edit: Turns out I was mistaken with the pronunciation for Boudicea but the point still stands. It's in fact even more unlikely now.
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@O:
she was a queen warrior, took back her island
Please stop asserting the thing you don't actually know much about.
and her 2 daugters were treated real bad (for andcok was her 2 sisters but it's pretty close)
It's not at all the same thing, and "treated bad" isn't the same thing either.
is it good enough for you?
So that's a no.
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@O:
wat about this speling :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1519322/Boadicea-may-have-had-her-chips-on-site-of-McDonalds.html
Ah yes the scholarly source of a telegraph article about a probably nonsense claim about where a McDonalds is.
And he said "pronounced" not "spelled".
Maybe in does work in english but it does in other language, (especialy if Oda read about it, he would just copy pace the letter he sees to create a new name)
This isn't a great source on my own part exactly, but here's Boudica in Japanese ブーディカ, and here's Boa (like the snake and the character) ボア. In Japanese the part of the Celtic cheif's name that is that front part is the ブー.
Google translate is hardly fluency lol, but it has an option to hear the characters pronounced as written.
Here's Boudica in full.
Here's "Boa" And here I isolated just the ブー. Click on the little volume symbol at the bottom of the text boxes to hear the pronunciation.
If you're somehow still unconvinced that the Japanese characters that start Boudica's name are pronounced "Boo" after that?
Well just put ブー into google and look at what character pops up in google images lol.
So besides stalin and hitler, and possibly fu manchu, though I have no idea who that is…Any other inspirstions for these kings found?
@Bond:
I'd like to comment on this in particular. The 'goro' sound is how the Japanese write the sound of a rumble, or a purr. Nekomamushi is purring whenever he begins to laugh.
I already thought that this laughter might also be japanese-purr-related tbh. But Neko's "beard" still reminds of Darunia's.
@MK
Costa Nostra was a wordplay on Cosa Nostra. By Costa meaning coast, but I guess you all figured out already.
I already thought that this laughter might also be japanese-purr-related tbh. But Neko's "beard" still reminds of Darunia's.
I've always thought Neko's beard was more reminiscent of a lion's mane, which Darunia's also kinda resembles. Either way, they aren't similar enough to say that Neko is inspired by Darunia.
Interestingly, the Gorons are probably named that way because 'goro', as a generic rumbling sound, also describes the rumbling of earth and rolling boulders.
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@Bond:
I've always thought Neko's beard was more reminiscent of a lion's mane, which Darunia's also kinda resembles. Either way, they aren't similar enough to say that Neko is inspired by Darunia.
Interestingly, the Gorons are probably named that way because 'goro', as a generic rumbling sound, also describes the rumbling of earth and rolling boulders.
I'll agree with you on both parts.
If we look at some of the islands' names, I guess we shouldn't always translate them 1 to 1. IMO Oda is sometimes just looking for cool-sounding names: Spider Miles, Apple Nine, Water Seven, Enies Lobby. If you translate them they make almost no sense (except W7, cause of 7 docks), but they all Sound pretty cool, don't you think?
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But who do you think GreenBull is based on?
We know Oda's pattern for the admirals' faces:
all actors of old japanese movies (preferedly yakuza/crime movies) and we know approximately GB's hairstyle.
Can any japanese-movie-expert make a guess who Green Bull is based on?
It could also be a woman, though the nickname "GreenBull" doesn't Sound very feminime (Purple Tiger sounded more like a female than Green Bull to begin with).
But who do you think GreenBull is based on?
We know Oda's pattern for the admirals' faces:
all actors of old japanese movies (preferedly yakuza/crime movies) and we know approximately GB's hairstyle.
Can any japanese-movie-expert make a guess who Green Bull is based on?
It could also be a woman, though the nickname "GreenBull" doesn't Sound very feminime (Purple Tiger sounded more like a female than Green Bull to begin with).
I'm no expert on old Japanese movies, but there has been talk that Green Bull will be based on Toshiro Mifune.
The biggest piece of evidence for this is that Oda once drew him with bull horns (Volume 70 dust jacket inner image).
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^Yup, Mifune is a really safe bet. Secretly hoping he has a centuar zoan for the fun factor.
@Monkey:
Please stop asserting the thing you don't actually know much about.
It's not at all the same thing, and "treated bad" isn't the same thing either.
So that's a no.
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Ah yes the scholarly source of a telegraph article about a probably nonsense claim about where a McDonalds is.
And he said "pronounced" not "spelled".This isn't a great source on my own part exactly, but here's Boudica in Japanese ブーディカ, and here's Boa (like the snake and the character) ボア. In Japanese the part of the Celtic cheif's name that is that front part is the ブー.
Google translate is hardly fluency lol, but it has an option to hear the characters pronounced as written.
Here's Boudica in full.
Here's "Boa" And here I isolated just the ブー. Click on the little volume symbol at the bottom of the text boxes to hear the pronunciation.If you're somehow still unconvinced that the Japanese characters that start Boudica's name are pronounced "Boo" after that?
Well just put ブー into google and look at what character pops up in google images lol.
do you thing oda read only japanese sources, LoL
like he does univerty reshear , your are a funny one ;) thank sir you would be a nice smart ass teacher
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other interesting facts about boa hancock inspiration is the tribute to Thomas hancock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hancock_(inventor)
he has a lot to do with rubber / that's why Boa loves luffy ;)
by the way would she be invited to reverie aswell?
@O:
do you thing oda read only japanese sources, LoL
He doesn't know how to read English on any non-slogan level last I checked. Japan isn't Sweden or something, they don't have widespread English fluency alongside their native language.
He could probably figure out supermarket sings, but articles on historical subjects? Yeah. No.
like he does univerty reshear , your are a funny one ;) thank sir you would be a nice smart ass teacher
… ... ...what's a "reshear"?
