Question. Why didn't John Simm's Master start regenerating after he was shot?
He refused to regenerate just to spite The Doctor.
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Complicating things since 2009.
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I'm not all that familiar with Capaldi as some, but the guy has the perfect look for a Doctor; he's like a blend of Pertwee and McCoy.
Watch The Musketeers. He plays a villain, but he's very good. :) It's a good show, anyway. I'm actually slightly sad that he's not going to be in it anymore because of Doctor Who.
He refused to regenerate just to spite The Doctor.
Also, spoilers, but maybe he had other plans as well. :P
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Oh yeah, I forgot about that, The Doctor even begged him to do it. So its something that the Time Lords can control or is it just the Master.
Much Better Trailer than the Official one:
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Yeah, I like that….pretty cool!
I'm pretty sure there is some control involved...because they can't do it if they're killed before they can complete the process.
Ugh, the wait is getting more and more difficult. Especially since I'm running out of classic Who to watch. (I have two more McCoy stories and the movie left, and the dailymotion account where I was watching all the really early stuff just got canned).
Edit: This comes from, I think, SFX magazine or something...a brief synopses of each episode from Steve Moffat.
! Deep Breath: "It's a huge introductory show. What if your best friend was somebody else? It's really about Clara trying to cope with that - and whether or not she even likes who he is, mixed in with a truly terrifying monster."
! 2. "We've done a really good Dalek one by saying they're nasty. It's actually quite a gritty Dalek adventure. We go without question into the most dangerous place in the universe - the last place the Doctor should be, and you will know that by the end of the pre-titles."
! 3. It's the Doctor meets Robin Hood. And it's about being a hero. The Doctor's going through a period of his life where he's worrying about whether he counts as a good man. It's very, very funny. Everything you want in a good Robin Hood is going to be there."
! 4. "A complete departure for me in terms of writing Doctor Who. A tiny guest cast, no CGI. It's the story of a date and the Doctor having what appears to be a mild nervous breakdown. There's a little germ of Coupling in it. It's actually quite a scary one. I sometimes wonder: "What does the Doctor do when there's nothing going on? Does he go and find something to poke a stick at?" Of course he must. Essentially it's downtime for the Doctor. But don't worry, it involves a monster."
! 5. "It's like a heist movie done with Doctor Who. It's got a cracking monster in it, one of Neill Gorton's finest creations. And Keeley Hawes."
! 6. "An absolute hoot of an episode with some surprisingly serious bits in it. If you did know somebody like the Doctor and you did think it was okay to slip away with him, what effect would that have on your life? What would that do to the people around you? I sit and watch this one to cheer myself up. I suppose it's not unlike The Lodger in certain respects."
! 7. "Proper drama. With monsters and all the Doctor Who stuff that you could want. It's probably quite a big statement of where we are now with the show. This might be where you can argue that the new approach is, for the first time, seen uncluttered by any of the old approach. It's very strong. And there's a callback to a past episode. Sort of. You'll see."
! 8. "Brilliant script. Brilliant idea for a monster. It looks stunning in a very glamorous way. And it has Foxes singing. There's a callback to something from Matt's first series. Sometimes I play a long game. And sometimes I just think "We never actually tied that off…shall we just go and sort that now?" Usually because I think it would be incredibly funny. I like the idea that the Doctor takes that long. "Yes, I'll be there in a moment..." Several years later..."
! 9. "It's a horror story. It starts off with a very …. idea and becomes really quite frightening by the end. A scary one. A proper scary one with one of our best ever sight gags in it. It runs throughout the episode and the climax of this particular gag, I think, is just glorious. I remember reading it out at the readthrough and everyone was just clapping and cheering at Jamie Mathieson's idea."
! 10. I_t's a beautiful script; it's really lyrical and poetic, and boldly so. A fairytale, but not in the sense that I've tended to write a fairytale. Heartfelt, eloquent, quite, quite different. The main visual idea is so clever. I think it's going to be a stunner.
! 11-12. "The finale. Quite a strong emotional story to this. It's about Clara and the Doctor and the fact that the way they interact might not be healthy for everyone around them. That sounds very bleak but don't worry, there's lots of nonsense in it too. It's high octane action adventure, with Cybermen. And some proper UNIT stuff."_Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
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Edit: This comes from, I think, SFX magazine or something…a brief synopses of each episode from Steve Moffat.
! Deep Breath: "It's a huge introductory show. What if your best friend was somebody else? It's really about Clara trying to cope with that - and whether or not she even likes who he is, mixed in with a truly terrifying monster."
! 2. "We've done a really good Dalek one by saying they're nasty. It's actually quite a gritty Dalek adventure. We go without question into the most dangerous place in the universe - the last place the Doctor should be, and you will know that by the end of the pre-titles."
! 3. It's the Doctor meets Robin Hood. And it's about being a hero. The Doctor's going through a period of his life where he's worrying about whether he counts as a good man. It's very, very funny. Everything you want in a good Robin Hood is going to be there."
! 4. "A complete departure for me in terms of writing Doctor Who. A tiny guest cast, no CGI. It's the story of a date and the Doctor having what appears to be a mild nervous breakdown. There's a little germ of Coupling in it. It's actually quite a scary one. I sometimes wonder: "What does the Doctor do when there's nothing going on? Does he go and find something to poke a stick at?" Of course he must. Essentially it's downtime for the Doctor. But don't worry, it involves a monster."
! 5. "It's like a heist movie done with Doctor Who. It's got a cracking monster in it, one of Neill Gorton's finest creations. And Keeley Hawes."
! 6. "An absolute hoot of an episode with some surprisingly serious bits in it. If you did know somebody like the Doctor and you did think it was okay to slip away with him, what effect would that have on your life? What would that do to the people around you? I sit and watch this one to cheer myself up. I suppose it's not unlike The Lodger in certain respects."
! 7. "Proper drama. With monsters and all the Doctor Who stuff that you could want. It's probably quite a big statement of where we are now with the show. This might be where you can argue that the new approach is, for the first time, seen uncluttered by any of the old approach. It's very strong. And there's a callback to a past episode. Sort of. You'll see."
! 8. "Brilliant script. Brilliant idea for a monster. It looks stunning in a very glamorous way. And it has Foxes singing. There's a callback to something from Matt's first series. Sometimes I play a long game. And sometimes I just think "We never actually tied that off…shall we just go and sort that now?" Usually because I think it would be incredibly funny. I like the idea that the Doctor takes that long. "Yes, I'll be there in a moment..." Several years later..."
! 9. "It's a horror story. It starts off with a very …. idea and becomes really quite frightening by the end. A scary one. A proper scary one with one of our best ever sight gags in it. It runs throughout the episode and the climax of this particular gag, I think, is just glorious. I remember reading it out at the readthrough and everyone was just clapping and cheering at Jamie Mathieson's idea."
! 10. I_t's a beautiful script; it's really lyrical and poetic, and boldly so. A fairytale, but not in the sense that I've tended to write a fairytale. Heartfelt, eloquent, quite, quite different. The main visual idea is so clever. I think it's going to be a stunner.
! 11-12. "The finale. Quite a strong emotional story to this. It's about Clara and the Doctor and the fact that the way they interact might not be healthy for everyone around them. That sounds very bleak but don't worry, there's lots of nonsense in it too. It's high octane action adventure, with Cybermen. And some proper UNIT stuff."_! Oooo I'm really liking most of the synopses, only episode 4 sounds like a bit of a downer in concept alone, but I hope to be surprised. Also, it really sounds like the arc of the story is the development of the Doctor as he struggles to come to terms with who he is, which I actually like the idea.
I also wonder what Moffat means by "New approach". He's mentioned it in a few interviews already, but I didn't think the old formula was aging all that bad: Some stand alone stories with some story arc pieces in it, or an arc story here and there, and a finale to tie it all together.
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I try not to think too much about Moffat's soundbytes, they tend to be over-generalizations/exaggerations. However, from what I've read in non-spoiler impressions from people who have seen the leaked stuff, I get the impression there is a real effort to set this series and the doctor apart tonally.
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me and theresa used to WATCH THIS MOVIE AS A KIDS. WE GET DEN SCARED WHEN THE RAPTORS COME INTO THE KITCHEN AND EAT KIDS.
still scary.
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Hm, guessing that was supposed to go in the Jurassic Park thread. :)
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@Mr.:
! Oooo I'm really liking most of the synopses, only episode 4 sounds like a bit of a downer in concept alone, but I hope to be surprised. Also, it really sounds like the arc of the story is the development of the Doctor as he struggles to come to terms with who he is, which I actually like the idea.
I also wonder what Moffat means by "New approach". He's mentioned it in a few interviews already, but I didn't think the old formula was aging all that bad: Some stand alone stories with some story arc pieces in it, or an arc story here and there, and a finale to tie it all together.
! Or maybe I'm just reading to much into his words.! The 4th will be majorly important hence why it is a tighter episode I look forward to be able to talk about episodes after all the leaked ones have aired because some of the theories are pretty solid.
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Hm, guessing that was supposed to go in the Jurassic Park thread. :)
Maybe…but we have had Dinosaurs on a spaceship before.
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Name/Day/Time of the Doctor is released as a trilogy (with Night of the Doc as well), I'm just sad it isn't region 1 as far as I know.
The collection looks neat, mainly since McGann and Hurt have their own covers.And apparently the first episode of Series 8 will be in theaters. Is this a good sign that they believe the episode is really good, or are they just riding the hype?
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Doctor Who returning to cinemas? I MAY HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE DOCTOR ON THE SILVER SCREEN YET!!! (I couldn't see Day of the Doctor due to being in Japan at the time.) They don't even have any confirmed theaters or even countries yet and I'm already hyped. I mean, Day of the Doctor was screened in some Norwegian cinemas… There is a chance Deep Breath will be too, right...?
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Maybe…but we have had Dinosaurs on a spaceship before.
And there was "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" long before that…no raptors as far as I can remember, though. :)
I'm certainly hoping to get in on the cinema release of Deep Breath, assuming it opens in the SD/LA areas.
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Are they REALLY giving an entire disk to Night of the Doctor? I mean, that was only like 10 minutes? I guess they can stuff all the other bonuses on there, and its nice to give him his own cover, but still…
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Also! Big Finish is celebrating their 15th anniversary (aka 15 years of being awesome) by doing daily deals on audio dramas. Well, it use to be daily until they started getting heavy traffic, so each offer is 48 hours long now. After that time, though, they're back to regular price.
For each offer, They make a select few stories downloadable for £1 (< $2), some shorter stories are free, and some CD/Downloads are £5 ($8.50).Today, their celebrating the Eighth Doctor. As of right now, the first 4 stories of Eight are £1 downloads. The first two are pretty great, I haven't heard 3 & 4 yet so I'll definitely be getting those.
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Yeah, I already contributed to the site crashing, been buying up all the things (of course, a few of those I bought at full price just a week ago).
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Some excerpts from a Peter Capaldi interview, trickling in piece by piece.
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! "When I was Doctor elect, before it was announced, I used to go to Forbidden Planet, and just hang around. It would amuse me that people wouldn’t know they were standing next to the next Doctor Who. That’s all past now. I can’t do it any more." -What does a guy waiting to be announced as Doctor Who do to amuse himself?
! "There is a conflict among fans but I’m trying to get the Mondasians back."-The dangers of enquiring about the relative strengths of the cybermen vs. Daleks.
! "There was a large selection of people. I won’t name names, because it’s more fun for people to spot them. I have a book, though. I started to collect images and quotes from people I thought were Doctor Who-ish. They might have a turn of phrase or a certain look that works… so I brought these things together."-Peter talking about the people who may have inspired his Doctor and gives a glimpse into how he does things.
! IT IS safe to come out from behind the sofa, parents. The actor Peter Capaldi says his Doctor will not be flirting with his beautiful young assistant when the Time Lord returns next month.
! In an interview with The Sunday Times Magazine, Capaldi, 56, rules out a potentially toe-curling Doctor Who romance with Clara Oswald, played by Jenna Coleman, 28.
! “It’s not what this Doctor’s concerned with,” said Capaldi, whose predecessors Christopher Eccleston, David Tennant and Matt Smith all seemed to be attracted to their female sidekicks.
! “It’s quite a fun relationship, but no, I did call and say, ‘I want no Papa-Nicole mo–ments.’ I think there was a bit of tension with that at first, but I was absolutely adamant.”
! The Papa-Nicole reference relates to the Renault Clio car adverts in the 1990s that created the impression of a romance between an older man and a young woman.
"We still blow a lot of ¤¤¤¤ up. That’s very important, but it’s going to be a bit different from what we’ve seen over recent years. A bit more gravity. Some situations are more sombre and I think there are more rooted dramatic scenes. Over the past two or three years, which I’ve loved, there has often been a breathless vigour; we still have that attack, but we have another level of drama, another tone. And the scenes are longer."
! "I tried on everything anybody suggested. We’d go to a costume house and have huge, exhausting sessions of getting dressed up. It’s fine for about 15 minutes, but by the time we’ve done 3½ hours, it’s like, get me out of this. The most ridiculous outfit, the one I loved, I looked like Count Arthur Strong with a real, old cardigan."
! "Magician look? I think it’s quite a hard look. I always wanted him to be in black — I always just saw the Doctor in dark colours. Not tweed. Matt’s a really young cool guy — he can wear anything, but I wanted to strip it back and be very stark."
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So, there's a new teaser
Script spoilers :
! It's the opening scene of episode 4.
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Here is the full interview. [http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/article1435733.ece?shareToken=b613ab08469db8495ce06f369cc90f32
A](http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/article1435733.ece?shareToken=b613ab08469db8495ce06f369cc90f32)lso, a lot of people have been wondering about the ring he is wearing. They had a custom skin made to go on his wedding ring, which he refuses to remove.
Also, this news about Peter Jackson directing an episode has been passed around for years now, but it certainly sounds like it's a serious discussion and will probably happen eventually. http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/steven-moffat-says-peter-jackson-will-probably-direct-doctor-who-episode-313#CKI2iz7rFRQ1Jcvb.99
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
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Here is the full interview. [http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/article1435733.ece?shareToken=b613ab08469db8495ce06f369cc90f32
A](http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/article1435733.ece?shareToken=b613ab08469db8495ce06f369cc90f32)lso, a lot of people have been wondering about the ring he is wearing. They had a custom skin made to go on his wedding ring, which he refuses to remove.
Also, this news about Peter Jackson directing an episode has been passed around for years now, but it certainly sounds like it's a serious discussion and will probably happen eventually. http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/steven-moffat-says-peter-jackson-will-probably-direct-doctor-who-episode-313#CKI2iz7rFRQ1Jcvb.99
I already loved Capaldi, but this is just so lovely that it might tip me over the edge.
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So Zoe Saldana wants to be on Doctor Who….wouldn't be bad to have a well known movie star on the show, though i want Captain Jack back on the show. He's been gone waaay too long. Missed out on the great possible moments with flirting with River/Amy...
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Surely you mean Rory.
How original is it to still have this in my signature 6 years later?
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Surely you mean Rory.
Unless Rory is spelt Amy, i meant Amy. Though I'm sure Jack would prolly swing either way or the 3 of em, 0h hell make it all of em.
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Even Entertainment Weekly!
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So is the Master returning or not?
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I hope so. He needs to be done better justice.
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It hasn't been confirmed if he's returning or not. I haven't been reading spoilers, but I haven't seen any smoking gun to indicate it's happening for sure. Lots of casting rumors, but I think it's all been put out there to throw people off.
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I'm loving all the promo series 8 is getting, but the things that bother me about this photo is the claim that Doctor Who supposedly needs to be taken more "seriously", and that everyone seems to be associating Capaldi with Malcolm Tucker.
I always liked Doctor Who because it balanced it's quirkiness and seriousness. I tend to love the serious bits more, but to me I just don't think Doctor Who is meant to be a hard sci-fi show.And is the character Malcolm Tucker really that iconic? I honestly don't know. I've never heard of him until Capaldi was announced as the Doctor and Tucker clips/gifs popped up everywhere, and it drives me crazy how some would think he'd carry such a recognizable aspect of that character to the Doctor.
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Don't worry, Capaldi is not playing the Doctor like Malcom Tucker…that's just people having fun with memes. They're just saying that it's that actor coming to the role, not that his character is.
There will still be quirkiness and humor. It's not going away. Nor is it turning into hard sci-fi. Different doctors during different eras have been more humorous and more serious. Pertwee was a fairly straight and serious doctor, the JNT era tried to be a lot more serious sci-fi, Eccleston's doctor was a bit more hard-edged, but it always felt like the same show to me.
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There will still be quirkiness and humor. It's not going away. Nor is it turning into hard sci-fi. Different doctors during different eras have been more humorous and more serious. Pertwee was a fairly straight and serious doctor, the JNT era tried to be a lot more serious sci-fi, Eccleston's doctor was a bit more hard-edged, but it always felt like the same show to me.
Ah, well that doesn't sound half as bad as I thought. True, I should think he'll likely be in the direction of Eccleston. And come to think of it, I haven't seen any pertwee stories outside of The Three Doctors. Been meaning to see Spearhead from Space…
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I should watch Spearhead from Space again…it was one of the first classic stories I watched, and at the time, a 7-part story was a bit daunting. I liked it but it felt weird and slow. At this point it probably wouldn't, though, since I've made it through 10-parters without a fuss. Also, Robert Holmes stories are usually my favorites.
Still, I'd my favorite Pertwee stories are probably Inferno, The Silurians, Carnival of Monsters, The Green Death and The Time Warrior.
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I'm in the middle of Engines of War, and this book is a must-read.
It's about John Hurt yelling at Timothy Dalton.
It also has Time War in great detail, and most of the stuff Ten mentioned in EoT is explained.
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Yeah I've been hearing good things about Engines of War, so I have that ordered. I also picked up Tales of Trenzalore the other day, which is just a short collection of short stories about some of the skirmishes that 11 faced in the town of Christmas. And after that, I'll be reading Harvest of Time, a 3rd Doc & Master story by Alastair Reynolds.
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So what other books would you recommend as essential to the Doctor Who experience?
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I haven't read a ton so I'm afraid I don't have a lot to offer, but the novel adaptation of Shada is pretty great. It's based on a Douglas Adams episode that never got fully produced, so the book has some Adams-esque writing, with the majority of it put together by Gareth Roberts. It's sorta awkward as Roberts tries to mimic Adams but doesn't quite do justice to it, but he's sufficient enough for the book.
Compared to the reconstructed dvd release of the episode, the book is a better experience. The scenes that weren't filmed (due to strikes at the time) are filled in with stills narrated by Tom Baker, and quite a few crucial scenes weren't filmed, so all the suspense kind of gets lost at the climax, especially with a major revelation.
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So what other books would you recommend as essential to the Doctor Who experience?
Read Virgin New Adventures series, if you haven't yet. They are pretty hit or miss though.
Read Goth Opera/Blood Harvest/Vampire Science from Missing Adventures, NA and EDA respectively as some kind of vampire trilogy.
From new series read ones with Rory: Nuclear Time, The King's Dragon, Touched by an Angel, The Silent Stars Go By etc. Plague of the Cybermen is also good.Stay away from Tales of Trenzalore, unless you are really bored though.
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Ok, thanks. I will look them up, planning on getting Engines of War, looks like my cuppa.
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This is a great shame that Engines of War is not an episode. It should have been first part of anniversary special, with DoTD being second part.
It would have been really expensive with all special effects and Hurt but…! 1. Ditch Narnia episode - make it an episode about introduction of normal Clara.
2. Ditch whole series 7 except "The Power of Three" - Make it "The Power of Four" 1,5 long hour special with Clara. At the end Ponds decide to live normal life by themselves.
3. No Statue of Liberty, Amy grave, Snowmen, GI, Impossible Clara and all that bullshit.
4. All saved money go into making Night into regular length episode and Engines of War.
5. Greatest anniversary ever + a lot of issues fixed.Oh, what could have been…
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You would have gotten rid of Asylum of the Daleks and Dinosaurs on a Spaceship? The Rings of Akhaten? Cold War? The Neil Gaiman Cybermen episode?
No, I don't think so.
Really. You're talking about getting rid of episodes from 2012 in order to MAYBE expand something from the tail end of 2013.
Yes, it probably would have been best if the Ponds stayed gone after The God Complex/Wedding of River Song as that was an overall better stopping point for them… and we ALL would have liked for there to be more time with 8... but I wouldn't kill an entire season of episodes to try and get any one single potential episode. (Even the 50th anniversary ep didn't get any extra budget, so...)
Besides, the novels have the entirety of Hurt's years to play with now, and he was a looong lived Doctor. And 8's actual end now, so that can be played with too.
Mostly we can point fingers at the BBC for mucking so royally with the production order. We probably could have had an entire extra season of Matt if they hadn't randomly just split series 7 into small chunks to pad out till the anniversary.
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Well, is there any other way they could theoretically gain more money? I know, it doesn't work the way I described , but man can dream.
Novels are fine and dandy and all, but those are novels, while EoW could easily have been the episode.
Great one at that. In the ideal world we got it anyway, and there were no split seasons.And frankly - getting rid of Angels take Manhattan, Wardrobe, Bells of St John, Journey in the Tardis, Crimson Horror, Hide and Name of the Doctor to get 2 hours of Hurt blasting daleks and snarling at people (not counting DoTD)?
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I'll still take the dozen episodes we got over a single hypothetical potential episode.
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Dinosaurs on a Spaceship and The Rings of Akhaten.
And just making some into a longer 2 parter doesn't magically make it better.
John Hurt was probably best in short doses with us left to imagine what things he did, honestly.
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John Hurt was probably best in short doses with us left to imagine what things he did, honestly.
Oh, definitely.
There's no way the events of the time war could ever really be done justice to.
In terms of The Doctor's actions, or the things he's meant to have encountered.
All that creepy sounding stuff that 10 hit out with during The End of Time was definitely better kept abstract.
The fact that we have no real idea what The Nightmare Child was, or the Could've been King and his army of meanwhiles and neverwheres were makes them way more terrifying than if we actually got a glimpse at them.
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Cause lets be honest.
Blowing up Daleks has gotten reeeeeeeeeally old by this point.
They're cool villains and all but we've seen so many armadas of billions of them blown up at this point there's just no threat. Shame since the new show did such a fantastic job with just one Dalek when it started.
Really don't want to see a 2 hour movie of just that.
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Well, I was satisfied with explanations on Degradations, Time Lord weapons,
! Possibility Engine, Time Lords in a state of constant regeneration because they were erased from reality, De-Mat gun etc.
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"There's no way the events of the time war could ever really be done justice to."
is not true. All it takes a good author to explain abstract things in coherent, but not overly complicated terms. EoW proved it. And there was nothing that can't be recreated on screen. Half of EDA books are abstract but they are infinitely more clever than Silence arc. And there was nothing that couldn't be filmed either, given right creative approach.
Abstract nature of the fictional event is not an excuse to not explore it.
Sure, nothing is stronger than one's imagination, but it's and excuse of lazy writer who likes to invent cool sounding names but doesn't want to develop his ideas. It's like "The White Ship" by Lovecraft, which was basically a list of fictional places he didn't (and never planned to) elaborate on.… so maybe you are right and Moffat shouldn't be allowed anywhere near time war. But that =/= it can't be shown and elaborated on ever.
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Well, I was satisfied with explanations on Degradations, Time Lord weapons,
! Possibility Engine, Time Lords in a state of constant regeneration because they were erased from reality, De-Mat gun etc.
So
is not true. All it takes a good author to explain abstract things in coherent, but not overly complicated terms. EoW proved it. And there was nothing that can't be recreated on screen. Half of EDA books are abstract but they are infinitely more clever than Silence arc. And there was nothing that couldn't be filmed either, given right creative approach.
Abstract nature of the fictional event is not an excuse to not explore it.
Sure, nothing is stronger than one's imagination, but it's and excuse of lazy writer who likes to invent cool sounding names but doesn't want to develop his ideas. It's like "The White Ship" by Lovecraft, which was basically a list of fictional places he didn't (and never planned to) elaborate on.… so maybe you are right and Moffat shouldn't be allowed anywhere near time war. But that =/= it can't be shown and elaborated on ever.
Doing something of that scale justice in a novel format, is completely different from doing it in a film format. They are entirely different mediums, with entirely different strengths and weaknesses, its incredibly naive to assume that theres nothing that can't be recreated on screen, now I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but on the budget of an english television show, you would be hard pressed to represent the scale of such a war in any extended sense.
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Doing something of that scale justice in a novel format, is completely different from doing it in a film format. They are entirely different mediums, with entirely different strengths and weaknesses, its incredibly naive to assume that theres nothing that can't be recreated on screen, now I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but on the budget of an english television show, you would be hard pressed to represent the scale of such a war in any extended sense.
There is nothing in those books that can't be recreated on screen.
Because they are not about accurate representation of quantum physics made from the POV of structural functionalist. Books are quite simple, even EDA.
Money is not an issue, because point was that it can be done in satisfying and enjoyable way, and "can't be made on screen" is not an argument against it.With a decent budget and enough effort it can be made, and it would be awesome.
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There is nothing in those books that can't be recreated on screen.
Because they are not about accurate representation of quantum physics made from the POV of structural functionalist. Books are quite simple, even EDA.
Money is not an issue, because point was that it can be done in satisfying and enjoyable way, and "can't be made on screen" is not an argument against it.With a decent budget and enough effort it can be made, and it would be awesome.
Current DW doesn't have either, but that is entirely different matter.Yes in a perfect world anythings possible, but in real life budget is a huge concern, and hugely limits what you can achieve in a production, particularly when CGI is involved. anything beyond the scale of Day of the Doctor, as far as representation of the war, would be hugely expensive.
The way i see it, the problem is the representation of the time war itself, as in the actual battles, and doing it in a way in which doesn't diminish the perceived scale of such an event. And now you could concentrate on the dialogue and character scenes, that would probably be just as disappointing as an episode that was entirely the battles. I honestly think that for the show its self, what we saw in the time war was the perfect amount, let the novels and various other tie ins tell the story, thats what they excel at. -
Unconfirmed, but likely accurate episode titles for season 8:
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Oh no, The Doctor is going to get stuck in the Delta Quadrant for an episode!
