KICK ASS. AWESOME CHAPTER. Thanks alot.
Chapter 405 "Power" Discussion
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@Battle:
Nice stuff, Ivotas. I'll put yours in the first post.
No probs man, go ahead.
Yeh, I noticed that. Since he didn't want to build ships anymore, I guess Franky, himself was his last 'BF' model.
That´s what I think too. The dream ship he builds will obviously be something much more wonderful and totally different then the Battle Franky´s.
BTW, doesn´t this develompent for him to be his final Battle Franky just scream for an avatar change for you?
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Ivotas: My reason for beeing a bit sad about not seeing Luffy is that we got him on the front page of Jump, so thought we would see him cause of that. I wonder why they chose to put Luffy in this one, with Gear 2 and all. :O Why not wait for it or something. =/
Guys, Franky built himself after he got "destroyed", he can very possible built alot of Battle Franky's after that. Not that I really think so, but still.
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Man if Franky doesn't join… I'll EXTREMELY upset.
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I love Fukurou's expressions in this chapter.
Well overall, chapter is badass…very entertaining. -
BTW, doesn´t this develompent for him to be his final Battle Franky just scream for an avatar change for you?
It does, it does. :laugh:
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Oh come on, an aerial battle over a waterfall, how cool is that?
Besides Fukurou did have that punch of his as well.
Filler just means nothing significant happened, as in, the battle didn't fall in favour of either combatant. I personally found this slugfest to be quite entertaining; just, nothing happened to advance the plot.
EDIT: I'm actually quite satisfied with this colour spread. Oda did good; I'm sure we can all live with Chopperman instead of another Goldenweek Ministory. For one week, anyway. :D
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why does everyone keep saying that Fukuro doesnt have his own unique attacks, so far he's had 2. Duogong and Roll Out (i guess that's what it's called) and as for himself distorting in the air, has everyone forgottonabout the roku-shiki ability Kamie (Paper). Imagine trying to punch a piece of paper, and that's the effect.
And as for this fight…. I have tears from the greatness of this battle. I'm so glad Franky turned out to be a dectn fighter. And it's nice to see Chopper fight all out like this, truly this is the best arc so far, in my opinion
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This chapter doesnt feel enough somehow, at least the chopper man cover make up for it, go Chopper Man, I'll really follow the adventures of Chopper man if Oda ever makes the side-story.
Banzai for Coup de Poooo!!!!!
The last page seems to indicate the next time we see Franky vs Fukuro, the battle will truly be over. -
Ivotas: My reason for beeing a bit sad about not seeing Luffy is that we got him on the front page of Jump, so thought we would see him cause of that. I wonder why they chose to put Luffy in this one, with Gear 2 and all. :O Why not wait for it or something. =/
Well he´s the main hero so it´s obvious that he´s on the front page of jump if they decide to have the cover OP themed.
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Yeah, but with Gear 2 and all. =/
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why does everyone keep saying that Fukuro doesnt have his own unique attacks, so far he's had 2. Duogong and Roll Out (i guess that's what it's called) and as for himself distorting in the air, has everyone forgottonabout the roku-shiki ability Kamie (Paper). Imagine trying to punch a piece of paper, and that's the effect.
It's not enough that the move is "unique" if we, the readers, don't care for the distinction. Calling something by a different name isn't really an original move; OP fans recognize Dugong as simply a powerful punch. Kamie is a staple for Rokushiki, regardless of how it is applied. Fukurou's roll-out is something only he can do effectively because he's round and huge; not even Kumadori (well, maybe now…) could accomplish the same feat.
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mama mia, how can Franky use coup de coup twice in one day and not have a hole in his speedo.
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I see it as everybody in CP9 has his own fighting style and with this his own move set. Rokoshiki isn´t really a move set of its own. It is superhuman skills. It brings those guys who have mastered them on a totally different level then normal humans but that doesn´t mean that all of them fight with the same style.
Having the same superhuman skills something different from having the same moveset respectively fighting style. Each member uses the skills to fit with their own style.
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HQ? mnust be a special day today :biggrin:
edit: nice battle. plenty new moves, so it looks like Franky will show everything he can do by the end of this arc:blink:
and so choppaman got himself a colorspread eh? :laugh: Namifia and Robiflowan look great :biggrin:
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Thanks BF! You ARE inimitable…
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why does everyone keep saying that Fukuro doesnt have his own unique attacks, so far he's had 2. Duogong and Roll Out (i guess that's what it's called) and as for himself distorting in the air, has everyone forgottonabout the roku-shiki ability Kamie (Paper). Imagine trying to punch a piece of paper, and that's the effect.
So far each CP9 had some special variation of some Rokushiki move.
Nero____ had Rankyaku Sen____(chap372 p02)
Blueno___had Tekkai Rin________(chap385 p09)
and Tekkai Sai_(chap387 p15)
and Tekkai Gou_(chap388 p09)
Kaku has Rankyaku Hakurai(chap401 p06)
and Rankyaku Ran(chap401 p09)
___and Rankyaku Amanedachi(chap402 p06)
Fukuro___has Dugong (from Shigan)(chap404 p07)
________and Dugong Fukuro-dataki ___(chao404 p14)The point is that Fukuro has nothing else, even though he is the strangest looking.
Lucci, Kaku, Jabura, Calipha and Blueno all have DF-powers.
Kaku has his katana, Calipha her whip, Kumadori his hair and staff.
Fukuro looks like an owl, so an aerial battle seems natural, but maybe he can
see better in darkness. -
Awesome.
I'm glad that the fights are finally starting now- for real this time, apparently.
As for the chapter itself, I'm quite pleased. The fighting is pretty awesome, though I expect to see some more awesomeness before this fight is through.
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I wonder if there is a cave or something below the waterfall. It that's the case, Franky and Fukuro may fight there. Maybe then Fukuro may be able to see in the darkness, but not Franky? :P
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The quality is better this time.^^Thanks so much~!
Franky is getting more and more interesting,and Oda's painting style has become cuter.=^0^=(Fukuro looks so cute as he uses Kamie.) -
The point is that Fukuro has nothing else, even though he is the strangest looking.
Well that´s wrong. Fukuro has also one unique Kamie variation. The middle panel on page 14 you see him using this variation. The one bubble says Kamie and what the other says I´m not sure. I totally suck at Katakana but I would read them as su-ra-i-mu. No idea if I got it right or wrong, but whatever there stands it has to be the variation name.
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Thanks BF!
At the end of the last chapter I though Fukuro was knocked out by Franky's punch. Although I really want to see the other fights - especially Caliphas DF powers - I'm glad he isn't. Can't wait until next week to see how it continues… -
Well that´s wrong. Fukuro has also one unique Kamie variation. The middle panel on page 14 you see him using this variation. The one bubble says Kamie and what the other says I´m not sure. I totally suck at Katakana but I would read them as su-ra-i-mu. No idea if I got it right or wrong, but whatever there stands it has to be the variation name.
Yes I havn't included the latest chapter as I can't read katakana either,
but I meant that Fukuro has no special powers/tools/moves/tactics aside from
variations of Rokushiki moves. Something that explains his strange appearance. -
Weirdest fight ever.
Damn Chopper, don't butt in. You just deal with your fat friend.
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I wish to know what Franky said on the last page.
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Why does fuk wear an zip?
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Yes I havn't included the latest chapter as I can't read katakana either,
but I meant that Fukuro has no special powers/tools/moves/tactics aside from
variations of Rokushiki moves.Huh, now that confuses me totally. What is Dugong then? It surely is no Rokushiki skill. It may not be a DF ability or a foreight object but it most definitely is his own move.
Remeber, superhuman abilities are not equal to fighting style. All Rokushiki users have the same abilities but how they fight depends on each persons unique style. And apparantly Fukuro uses Rokushiki in a style where Dugong is a part of the moveset.
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Wow, awesome chapter. The water fighting had me on the edge of my seat. Now I want the next chapter!
And a great spread! I liked how Oda put in Chopper's symbol as the "O" in One Piece. That was a cute little touch.
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Now that chapter wasn't really interesting or covered anything to me. And the fact that franky is having such a hard time with fukurou (who is suppose to be the weakest member of cp9) is making me really nervous of what kalifa is going to do to poor nami. I'm confident that chopper is gonna whoop kumadori after a bit of a struggle. But I still think kalifa might be a bit too ruthless and tough for Nami (hope i'm wrong).
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the chapter is fantastic, when you will insert the translations in English?
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Personally, while some may complain that the Franky/Fukurou fight lasts a couple more chapters, usually a lot of Oda's "minor non-Luffy" fights (unless he really wants to get to the point) lasts about 2/3 chapters. And personally, the best part of this chapter is that once again Oda shows how he can make a deceptive, weird character and changes our perceptive. When people saw him and saw how he was knocked around for the "Douriki" reading, they probably suspected "he's merely the big guy and no threat". But watching him distort his body and take his battle to the waterfall and the chasm was just wild. And Franky…all he needed was a quick soda break and he's back in the action! Hope we see the end of this fight though soon so we can move along.
Meanwhile...is it just me or does Chopper keep getting the weird ones to fight? Though after all he's been through with Chessmarimo, the 4/MC/Lasshu team and Gedatsu, you would think Kumadori would actually put up a fight alongside his dramatics...yet he keeps getting weirder by the chapter!
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Damn, when I saw the spoiler (which just said that Fukurou vs. Franky would go on and Kumadori would escape the fridge), I was expecting a Franky + Chopper vs. Kumadori + Fukurou. But this… this... IS AWESOME!
Nice fight, I feel it is going to end in the next chapter. But, above all else, it dispelled the fear that any CP9 would be weak. Fukurou kicks ass, but it seems that we have not the answers about Douriki yet.
Also, Chopper punching Fukurou was cool! I think we can expect the end of the battle next week, and then Kumadori vs. Chopper or Nami vs. Calipha.
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I totally suck at Katakana but I would read them as su-ra-i-mu. No idea if I got it right or wrong, but whatever there stands it has to be the variation name.
I'd say it's called "Slime", the kana fit and so do his movements.
Anyway, great chapter. Quite a few cool shots of Franky (he's very sexy on page 4) and it seems the storm was just an effect for his super-ness after all. Phew… no Dragon ruining the picture. Just a question... why can't Franky put his skin back on his right hand, it looks freaky. >_<
I still want to see more of Nami, although it looks like we're going to have to wait a while, another week for Franky-kun to finish and then at least two more for Chopper...
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For some reason, I see this battle ending next chapter. An epic battle over the waterfall, can you imagine that?
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Huh, now that confuses me totally. What is Dugong then? It surely is no Rokushiki skill. It may not be a DF ability or a foreight object but it most definitely is his own move.
I think DUGONG is a variation of Shigan, where you use the whole fist instead of a finger.
It certainly is his own unique very powerful move, but it has nothing to do with owls.
It shows that Fukuro is an expert boxer, but that doesn't fit with Fukuros appearance
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It's out! Great! Downloading right know!
Oh ya, thanks Battle Franky.Edit: That was one weird chapter, the fight was super, but it was strange.
Well i don't like very much the know fat Kumadori, reminds me of one of my idiotic classmates.
I just hope that Frankys battle is over next chapter. I realy want to see a wolf and a leopard turned into a persistent vegetative state. -
wow…wonderful chapter!!! fukuro is a master of kami-e (as blueno master of tekkai) and franky is the battle franky 36 himself!!! i think that in the last scene fukuro says that he can also dead for his goal...and franky says the same!!!
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@Monkey:
and it seems the storm was just an effect for his super-ness after all. Phew… no Dragon ruining the picture.
I said it was just special effect!
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Yay!!!! Fukurou finally got some cool moves and a way to distinguish himself from the others!
DAMN YOU ODA!!! YOU MADE ME LAUGH WITH THE WHOLE CHASING BULLET SCENE!!!!! CURSEEEES!
fukuro is a master of kami-e (as blueno master of tekkai)
No he's not. He says he's master of Soru. Considering how easily Chopper found him though
-_-;OH!!!!
And after having read Bleach! I don't wanna hear any complaints about 'how long' this fight supposedly is -_-
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Yo Omae can you Post a quick translation ,not necesarily the whole thing but the highlights?
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@Monkey:
I'd say it's called "Slime", the kana fit and so do his movements.
Yeah, that´s probably it. Didn´t think of the possibility that it was a foreign term so I was just clueless since I thought of suraimu as a japanese term. Slime makes perfect sense. :happy:
… and it seems the storm was just an effect for his super-ness after all. Phew... no Dragon ruining the picture.
As if it was ever out of question that it was ment to be anything else besides a special effect. :biggrin:
Just a question… why can't Franky put his skin back on his right hand, it looks freaky. >_<
Two possibilites: 1. the fist skin is laying around somewhere next to Chopper because Franky lost it when Fukuro attacked him or 2. he doesn´t want to put it back on because he wants to finish him off with the iron fist.
Yo Omae can you Post a quick translation ,not necesarily the whole thing but the highlights?
I´d be satisfied if I´d know what Fukuro´s and Franky´s words are in the final two panels.
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Ivotas,
Fukurou: Chapapapapapa!!! And if you wanna know why it's 'cause just now….. I've thought of way to put you down with one blow~~~~!!!
Franky: Hohooo....ME TOO OWL BOY!!!
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yay a double knockout next chapter then . Weee goodbye Franky :laugh:
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Cover Spread: CHOPPERMAN!
-Land, Sea, Air…this battle's just everywhere!
-I'm guessing that, besides trying to commit seppuku, Kumadori is one of those people who eats when they're depressed. (Being locked in a giant refrigerator is pretty depressing, when you think about it). -
Yo Omae can you Post a quick translation ,not necesarily the whole thing but the highlights?
Chopper fills Franky in on the key situation while Fukurou is down. Fukurou gets up and Franky whips out "Franky Destroy Cannon" (and says it hurts because it DISLOCATES HIS SHOULDER -_-)
Fukurou says as a Rokushiki user he'll never get hurt by a weapon that fires. Franky gloats that these bullets aren't something you can run from because they're 'Chaser Bullets'. Chopper is in awe that such bullets actually exist when FRANKY IS THE CHASER!!!!!!!!
When they get outside Franky can't find Fukurou. Fukurou says he's a master of Soru and moves at a speed that can't be seen by the eyes. Just like an owl that silently swoops down on its prey, such is Fukurou's greatest strength. Then Chopper knocks him out and says he was hiding over there.
Fukurou pouts that this is the first time CP9 has ever been so disgraced. He uses Soru to dissapear and then reappears with the new attack, Tekkai Dama. This knocks 'em both out into the waterfall. Being the sea water, Chopper says he can't help Franky out and tells him to do his best. Fukurou is happy 'cause he's got Geppou but Franky says he can't breathe and he's being pulled at a tremendous force.
Then our favorite kabuki killer can be heard, "I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I have, I HAVE PARTAKEN IIIIIIIIN THIIIIIIIS MEEEEEEEEEEEEAL!" and Chopper is truly stunned by how much he consumed. (literally says "Gochi Gochi Gochi Gochi Gochi" Which is a shortening of 'Thank you for the meal.')
Franky then unveils a move that would make an Olympist blush, Franky Butterfly as he attempts to get to the dock. Fukurou says he won't let that happen and knocks him down with Dugong. Franky unleashes Weapons Left and Fukurou uses his variation of Kamie, Slime (Kanji read 'nandei' or sludge/slime). Fukurou taunts him, "Almost got me that time." and Franky continues towards the pit, he uses a last-ditch effort by using a 1 Cola [bottle] Cannon, Kuu de Poo (dunno French so you know what I mean) and uses that to try and get to the dock.
Fukurou taunts again, "Didn't you know? You can't beat Rokushiki with just power." (hence chap title) Franky uses Strong Hammer and Fukurou dodges with Kamie. Then Fukurou knocks him down with, "INTO THE WATERFALL WITH YA!", that's when Franky uses Strong Right and pulls him with him!!
Fukurou uses Geppou to keep them up but yells at Franky to just let go because he can't support two people, they'll both fall. Franky says that's prolly true so before they both fall, how about he takes 'em both over to the dock. It's either that or fight then and there in mid-air. But of course that's not something that would benefit either of them so he really suggests they go to the dock.
Fukurou agrees but says the moment they arrive the battle will end that instant. Franky says, 'Ya think so?'
Fukurou: Chapapapapapa!!! And if you wanna know why it's 'cause just now….. I've thought of way to put you down with one blow~~~~!!!
Franky: Hohooo....ME TOO OWL BOY!!!
And yes, he literally calls him Owl in kanji with 'kun'.
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@omae:
Ivotas,
Fukurou: Chapapapapapa!!! And if you wanna know why it's 'cause just now….. I've thought of way to put you down with one blow~~~~!!!
Franky: Hohooo....ME TOO OWL BOY!!!
Thanks a trillion times Omae.
I knew it would be something awesome like that. The last page just somehow had a what I would call pre-finish-him character. Greatness!
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I can't wait for this battle to be over, though Franky get's cooler by the day and it seems i got my wish, Franky is in the colour spread, well his nose is. nice find for that Ivotas.
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Nothing much happened. But I like the fact Franky himself is a BF, it makes a whole lot of sense. Besides, middle way through of the chapter, there was an awesome ass shot of Franky. Now if we just could get the same from Nami…
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I wanna see Nami fight….everyone else has to wait for some reason, but Nami's right there with a drawn weapon, all ready to go.
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. Now if we just could get the same from Nami…
Don't we get those in all of her fights anyway? :happy: