Jesus Christ this movie was fucking epic. I had such high expectations and I know you probably all do, but I honestly have to say that the movie met all of them, and gave even more. It was incredible. Marvel has really outdone itself with the build-up of all of this, and then the actual execution was beyond fantastic. A must-see for everyone even slightly interested. There are not many movies that have me laughing to myself for pure awesomeness that I don't know how else to express how it makes me feel - epic. Can't wait for all of you to see it so there can be discussions without spoilers..
Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs
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I can't wait till you all see it and the spoiler ban comes off and we can really discuss it.
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Made a review on my tumblr for those of you interested. There are spoilers but nothing severe and Iw arn you when I do get into them. Check it out if you want to hype yourselves even more:P
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@Thousand:
I can't wait till you all see it and the spoiler ban comes off and we can really discuss it.
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Made a review on my tumblr for those of you interested. There are spoilers but nothing severe and Iw arn you when I do get into them. Check it out if you want to hype yourselves even more:P
Checking it out. Could you message me about the post-credit scene? I have no idea about those characters… :/
Edit: Good effing review, had the same feelings for pretty much all of it :D
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Another reminder to ALWAYS USE SPOILER TAGS!!!!!!
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This was the greatest superhero movie of all time and it's not even a contest.
I want to watch this movie again right now.
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Wow. Better than Dark Knight, even?
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As movies they're comparable, but as a comic book movie or a superhero movie (yeah Bats doesn't have superpowers, but whatevs) Avengers easily takes it. TDK took the easy way out by taking out all the fantastical elements and just making it a crime drama with costumes. The Avengers takes ALL the elements of the comic books and fully embraces them. It's not ashamed of its origins.
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Wow. Better than Dark Knight, even?
Dark Knight is a great thriller/crime movie. And its a pretty damn good Joker movie. But its only a mediocre Batman movie, not much of a superhero flik at all, really. There's no FUN in the entire thing. Sure Ledger was great, but it doesn't hold a candle to Mask of the Phantasm.
Dark Knight and Iron Man came out the same year. Batman may be the better movie overall, but Iron Man was the more fun superhero movie that lends to rewatching.
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Yesterday I watch all Marvel Studios movies in a marathon and watched The Avengers some hours ago. It was absolutely amazing. Yeah, "The Dark Knight" is my favorite movie of all time (dont laugh at me, I'm serious about that) but I still enjoyed the hell out this movie. Gonna wait til we can talk more about the story without giving spoilers away : )…
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Saw it. while i like it, it wasn't as good as the hype lead me to think :sad:. pretty much in line with what my initial expectation. a funny superhero movie but nothing groundbreaking even chronicle is a better superhero movie for me.
People should stop to compare this movie to dark knight series. The only thing in common between this movie and dark knight is the fact that they both action superhero movie. otherwise the two film couldn't get any more different.
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This was the greatest superhero movie of all time and it's not even a contest.
I want to watch this movie again right now.
:) I know, right?!?
Correction: Greatest movie of all time!!!
Wow. Better than Dark Knight, even?
Dark Knight is pretty over-rated imo. People praise it for being a serious super-hero movie but I always found it to be a pretty confused (not confusing, confused) movie. It tried to be this deep psychological thriller yet it substituted actual depth with silly pseudophilosophy questions that don't really amount to anything except something neat to chew over for a few seconds before you realize how insubstantial they actually are. It was a good entertaining movie but pretty contrived at places. In my opinion, Avengers tops it easily because it knows what it is, what it wanted to be and achieved its maximum potential in delivering entertainment
As movies they're comparable, but as a comic book movie or a superhero movie (yeah Bats doesn't have superpowers, but whatevs) Avengers easily takes it. TDK took the easy way out by taking out all the fantastical elements and just making it a crime drama with costumes. The Avengers takes ALL the elements of the comic books and fully embraces them. It's not ashamed of its origins.
@RobbyBevard:
Dark Knight is a great thriller/crime movie. And its a pretty damn good Joker movie. But its only a mediocre Batman movie, not much of a superhero flik at all, really. There's no FUN in the entire thing. Sure Ledger was great, but it doesn't hold a candle to Mask of the Phantasm.
Dark Knight and Iron Man came out the same year. Batman may be the better movie overall, but Iron Man was the more fun superhero movie that lends to rewatching.
This too.
Kiaolino, drop me a message if you wanna discuss the awesomeness of this movie. I could fangasm all day on this flick.
Also hurry up and see it guys, this not talking about it is killing me!!!
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Ok, so after several movies and setups we finally get the conclusion of all this hard work, and surprisingly enough it was worth it. Not just that, but it surpassed my expectations much more than I ever hoped. And not with just doing the story and team justice in portraying it, but in all aspects of a decent film that is important if you want a film to become legendary and more importantly for marvel…earn lots of money.
The one thing I will point out that I don't think anyone here really expected was All the humor and gags throughout,even if that stage of humor was mainly orientated around the hulk.
! coughhulk vs Loki cough
@left4lol- chronicle isn't a superhero movie and shouldn't be used in any comparison against movies like the avengers or any of the batman series. What makes it funnier is the fact you would denounce using an actual superhero orientated film while pushing forward something that is completely unrelated or alike in any way.
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@left4lol- chronicle isn't a superhero movie and shouldn't be used in any comparison against movies like the avengers or any of the batman series. What makes it funnier is the fact you would denounce using an actual superhero orientated film while pushing forward something that is completely unrelated or alike in any way.
It is a superhero film and a good one at that.it may not come out from a comic book but it doesn't mean it wasn't a superhero film.
As for the comparison, I only mention it because it the only other superhero movie that have come out this year. i admit the comparison is a little wierd, but my point is even among superhero movies like x men, batman, etc this movie wasn't the best. it's better than the average superhero movies but nothing amazing imo and certainly not as good as the hype led me to believe. For all the hype that this movie got i was expecting some thing far better than x2 or xmen first class and this movie didn't deliver that for me.
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It is a superhero film and a good one at that.it may not come out from a comic book but it doesn't mean it wasn't a superhero film.
As for the comparison, I only mention it because it the only other superhero movie that have come out this year. i admit the comparison is a little wierd, but my point is even among superhero movies like x men, batman, etc this movie wasn't the best. it's better than the average superhero movies but nothing amazing imo and certainly not as good as the hype led me to believe. For all the hype that this movie got i was expecting some thing far better than x2 or xmen first class and this movie didn't deliver that for me.
My gripe is your definition of the word superhero, as its meaning is usually leaning towards a person with powers or skills that protects the public. Which is pretty much the opposite of the people in chronicle who use the powers to steel, play pranks and get laid.
As for heros of 2012, why not mention Sherlock Holmes?
As for your rating of this film: put it like this, we've only had a handful or so of mentionable superhero films the past ten years, and this I'm guessing would be in the top three. (sitting between the watchmen and batman no doubt) and that's all it ever needed to be to keep the franchise going and deliver us even more marvel films for the next several years.
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For me personally, this is the greatest super hero movie ever made and greatest film in general i.e. it is my new favorite film. Citizen Kane it ain't but I had more fun watching it which is what matters.
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My gripe is your definition of the word superhero, as its meaning is usually leaning towards a person with powers or skills that protects the public. Which is pretty much the opposite of the people in chronicle who use the powers to steel, play pranks and get laid.
They did exactly that at the end of the movie. beside, that was the entire premise of the movie, to see what will happen if ordinary people actually got super power, and that why it's so refreshing.
As for heros of 2012, why not mention Sherlock Holmes?
because it wasn't a super hero movie :getlost:
As for your rating of this film: put it like this, we've only had a handful or so of mentionable superhero films the past ten years, and this I'm guessing would be in the top three. (sitting between the watchmen and batman no doubt) and that's all it ever needed to be to keep the franchise going and deliver us even more marvel films for the next several years.
This movie doesn't even come close to that, it's more like a better ploted micheal bay film, just like what i originally expected, but the hype make me hoping for more that ultimately wasn't delivered by this movie. as for the follow up, meh unless they actually go with a more interesting villain next time i don't think i'm looking forward for that. my main grip with this movie is that the villain is just so underwhelming that he basically turned into comic relive for the second half of the movie.
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The one thing I will point out that I don't think anyone here really expected was All the humor and gags throughout,even if that stage of humor was mainly orientated around the hulk.
People familiar with Joss Whedon knew it was going to be pretty funny.
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This has to be Joss Whedon's high as a director. His low would probably be something like Alien 4 lol
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I think Buffy's The Body (and some other select Buffy/Angel episodes) will always be his high as both a writer and a director. But it's one of the most powerful hours of television ever and tonally the complete opposite of The Avengers. This movie comes pretty close though. I'm fully convinced that this movie would've been terrible without Whedon having almost full control of the project.
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Whedon knew what the hell he was doing and it shows. He grew up with the characters, he knew who they are, what they did, how to treat them properly and how to use them appropriately in the movie. The character balance in this movie was just superb.
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Just saw it last night, it was pretty good. The movie is really simple and straightforward, the usual popcorn flick that's easy and fun to watch. Great action scenes, and funny too (well, it got Whedon). My personal favorite part of the movie is the Hulk, I haven't seen Incredible Hulk before (not that it matters, Ruffalo didn't played him then did he?) but I think Ruffalo makes for an excellent Banner. I love the way Hulk fights too, especially that scene - I won't spoil it, but those who watched probably could have guessed already. Best scene in the movie for me, the whole room roars out with laughter with that one.
In a way it is a very fanservice movie, but you really don't need to have any comic knowledge as long as you've watched the movies leading up to this, I don't remember them referencing anything outside of it. Well, except for the post-credit one, that was a good one.
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This is the film I dreamed about seeing when I was growing up.
Luckily I don't seem to have grown up too much since because I can still say it's the most entertaining movie I've seen in a theatre pretty much as far back as I can remember and easily the best, most quintessential superhero movie ever made.
Criminally awesome.
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It's understandable that people compare The Dark Knight with The Avengers, since the former is probably the most loved superhero-movie and the most succesful one.
But it's really hard to compare them since Nolan goes a completely other route with Batman than Marvel/Whedon does with it's heroes. The Avengers is lighter, brighter and funnier while TDK has a deeper story and all that psychological stuff.But personally i can't tell which i like more. They are just too different. Besides i just saw Avengers and i can't wait to see it again.
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Joker and Two-Face don't have any powers either, so it's easy just to turn it into a gritty drama without having to implements the cheesy powers stuff. For that matter, even Scarecrow's powers aren't that fantastical, it's just freak-out drugs, and they never got into Ra's lazarus pits stuff. (maybe they will in DKR? I dunno.)
It'll be interesting to see how he handles Bane. Bane's got some freaky powers, but I doubt Nolan will bulk him up to Hulk-sized proportions with glowing veins and stuff.
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@RobbyBevard:
Dark Knight is a great thriller/crime movie. And its a pretty damn good Joker movie. But its only a mediocre Batman movie, not much of a superhero flik at all, really. There's no FUN in the entire thing. Sure Ledger was great, but it doesn't hold a candle to Mask of the Phantasm.
Dark Knight and Iron Man came out the same year. Batman may be the better movie overall, but Iron Man was the more fun superhero movie that lends to rewatching.
I thought the ferry scene was bs. There was no build up for the civilians or the criminals to do the right thing. In real life, people would have not waited a second to push the button to save their skins(Costa Concordia anyone). The morale of the story is that people must remain dumb, ignorant and accept a fantasy in order to keep "hope". It was not that great, I prefered Begins conclusion.
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I loved the Dark Knight, but it really wasn't a superhero movie or even really a comic book movie. Sure you could argue semantics about that all day, but the Avengers obviously isn't even trying to compete on whatever playing field Nolan's operating.
It's also a billion times funnier and more kickass.
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@Mog:
I loved the Dark Knight, but it really wasn't a superhero movie or even really a comic book movie. Sure you could argue semantics about that all day, but the Avengers obviously isn't even trying to compete on whatever playing field Nolan's operating.
It's also a billion times funnier and more kickass.
The Dark Knight was obviously trying to be something more. Batman was not really here, he was just a vigilante going left and right beating people. If Plinkett reviews the film, he is probably gonna citicize the manipulative ideas of the film(Avatar). Surprisingly, I thought Spiderman 2 was better, more balanced and interesting.
If I want to see the AVenger. I am definteley going for the fun without too much expectation, some great humor (Tony Stark is awesome) and eye candy hmmm… Scarlet Johansson in leather suit...
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So yeah even if this movie somehow does bad in the US, it already did enough for a sequel just by other countries!
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I kinda don't want a sequel. On the one hand it would probably be great if Joss Whedon does it again (and he already talked about how he would do something different for the sequel so ti wouldn't be the same movie) yet on the other hand, this movie would have been so perfect stand-alone. A self-contained epic which told everything that needed to be said. Anything else would just feel like random villain of the week. Plus it would be more special if it was just stand alone.
But this is a moot point, we all know a sequel is coming and I'd probably love the hell out of it.
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I thought the ferry scene was bs. There was no build up for the civilians or the criminals to do the right thing. In real life, people would have not waited a second to push the button to save their skins(Costa Concordia anyone). The morale of the story is that people must remain dumb, ignorant and accept a fantasy in order to keep "hope". It was not that great, I prefered Begins conclusion.
Hi Five bro, that ferry scene was just stupid. Let's discard the fact that there would have been a mass panic where the button would have invariably been pressed by someone not everyone sitting oh so nicely and taking a vote. It also didn't prove anything. Joker was trying to prove that there was evil in all the good people's heart yet he set them up against criminals? If the criminals pressed the detonate button, it would have just been bad guys being bad guys, he even went so far to urge the good guys to hurry up and press the button first. If the civilians pressed the button, it would have just proved they weren't stupid.
I know he was supposed to be crazy but there's supposed to be some internal logic to him, some point he's trying to make or the audience would just be disconnected from the villain.
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The Joker had such complicated plans for a nihilist.
And no, you shouldn't want a sequel for this movie. Whedon's good in short bursts, but the longer you let him go, the more likely it is that he'll do something to annoy you. It's the reason Firefly is better off as one season with your imagination filling in the future.
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The Joker had such complicated plans for a nihilist.
Apparently everybody wasn't paying attention to the movie because this is the exact opposite to what Joker was doing in the movie.
Every "Step" of the plan you see him doing is just him making that part up as he goes along. And a couple of them failed
Like when he went after Harvey Dent at that party. If he'd found him and killed him there like he wanted to, then the movie would have been over much sooner. But Batman screwed that one up so Joker had to leave and try something else later.
The only thing Joker actually really thought out was putting the bomb in the guy to get out of the MCU. Every single other thing the Joker did could have been preceded by a deleted scene of the Joker going "Hm, that would be pretty good… yeah, I'll do that this time". -
Just got back from it.
God damn.
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Less than a week left and we can start talking about it. I need to see it again by that time. And I'll remember to take my glasses next time.
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The only thing Joker actually really thought out was putting the bomb in the guy to get out of the MCU. Every single other thing the Joker did could have been preceded by a deleted scene of the Joker going "Hm, that would be pretty good… yeah, I'll do that this time".
The bomb he planted in the dude's chest so that he could escape from the prison after being captured by the Batman so that he could tell him about his other plan with Dent and Rachel that he set up in advance? That one?
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The Joker had such complicated plans for a nihilist.
And no, you shouldn't want a sequel for this movie. Whedon's good in short bursts, but the longer you let him go, the more likely it is that he'll do something to annoy you. It's the reason Firefly is better off as one season with your imagination filling in the future.
Your opinions are really bad.
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The bomb he planted in the dude's chest so that he could escape from the prison after being captured by the Batman so that he could tell him about his other plan with Dent and Rachel that he set up in advance? That one?
Being captured by Batman isn't really a very big plan. He just wanted to talk to Batman. Everything else was just his exit plan on that one thing. The Rachel and Harvey thing was just to distract everyone so he could get out. The point of that was just to talk to Batman. ("I wana talk to Batman… Bomb in a guy to escape... but I need a distraction... uum... OH, Kidnap his friends, that'll get them all out of there")
that doesn't take a big Machiavellian plan.
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Being captured by Batman isn't really a very big plan. He just wanted to talk to Batman. Everything else was just his exit plan on that one thing. The Rachel and Harvey thing was just to distract everyone so he could get out. The point of that was just to talk to Batman. ("I wana talk to Batman… Bomb in a guy to escape... but I need a distraction... uum... OH, Kidnap his friends, that'll get them all out of there")
that doesn't take a big Machiavellian plan.
Did he really plan on being captured by Batman? He was definately willing to kill him when Gordon stopped him. Seems more to me like he is pretty much going with whatever happens and just likes to have an ace up his sleeve to use at the right opportunity. For example, he plants the guy with the bomb in his chest there just in case he gets captured. That doesn`t mean he plans on getting captured.
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! @left4lol:
! > They did exactly that at the end of the movie. beside, that was the entire premise of the movie, to see what will happen if ordinary people actually got super power, and that why it's so refreshing.
! superpowers not superheroes.
! > because it wasn't a super hero movie :getlost:
! A man with superhuman intelligence using his skills to solve crime and save people…
! > This movie doesn't even come close to that, it's more like a better ploted micheal bay film, just like what i originally expected, but the hype make me hoping for more that ultimately wasn't delivered by this movie. as for the follow up, meh unless they actually go with a more interesting villain next time i don't think i'm looking forward for that. my main grip with this movie is that the villain is just so underwhelming that he basically turned into comic relive for the second half of the movie.
! Loki is actually just another pawn in this story though. You can't treat him beyond what he is or ignore the fact his place, his power and position all happened due to Thanos. So in truth the only thing you can focus on with Loki is both the part he played and how well he managed his role, which as we saw was nothing shy of perfect. He broke up the team, opened the portal, which is just about all he was meant to do.
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! @Kaiolino:
! > People familiar with Joss Whedon knew it was going to be pretty funny.
! so because joss Whedon has a sense of humor means for a fact the movie will be pact with humor? That logic is brilliantly dumb. The truth is this film was under strict guidelines and not something that could be toyed with to any length. Point being the humor or script was never going to be predictable just because of the fimiliarity we have the with director, cast or anything else. Especially when it came to a big budget blockbuster like this. -
! superpowers not superheroes.
! A man with superhuman intelligence using his skills to solve crime and save people…
! Loki is actually just another pawn in this story though. You can't treat him beyond what he is or ignore the fact his place, his power and position all happened due to Thanos. So in truth the only thing you can focus on with Loki is both the part he played and how well he managed his role, which as we saw was nothing shy of perfect. He broke up the team, opened the portal, which is just about all he was meant to do.
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! so because joss Whedon has a sense of humor means for a fact the movie will be pact with humor? That logic is brilliantly dumb. The truth is this film was under strict guidelines and not something that could be toyed with to any length. Point being the humor or script was never going to be predictable just because of the fimiliarity we have the with director, cast or anything else. Especially when it came to a big budget blockbuster like this.Yep. That's interesting. :ninja:
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The spoiler tag for some reason didn't attach itself to my post above. sorry if I spoilt anyone, it wasn't intentional but the downside of trying to post using something made by smapple.
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The spoiler tag for some reason didn't attach itself to my post above. sorry if I spoilt anyone, it wasn't intentional but the downside of trying to post using something made by smapple.
! Eh. That's fine for me personally. Someone on another forum already said 'Everyone who reads comics will recognize the villian in the extra scene.', so I already knew that meant it either had to be Galactus or Thanatos. Since Fantastic Four II already did Galactus to a point, I assumed Thanatos.
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Rise Against just released a Poster Track-list of the upcoming Soundtrack.
Looks very promising.
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Rise Against just released a Poster Track-list of the upcoming Soundtrack.
http://i47.tinypic.com/30th012.jpg
Looks very promising.
Waiting for the promising track list to appear.
I also don't remember hearing any of those tracks in the film though so nyeh, I don't mind asuch really.
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I think the song in the credits was Soundgarden. It definitely sounded like them.
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I really like the comeback song so much I bought it on Itunes
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Oh god I hate every name on that whole soundtrack
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! superpowers not superheroes.
! A man with superhuman intelligence using his skills to solve crime and save people…! sherlock is nowhere having a superhuman intelligence, beside being smart is not super power :getlost: (at least not in traditional sense),but having telekinesis definitely count as a superpower
! Loki is actually just another pawn in this story though. You can't treat him beyond what he is or ignore the fact his place, his power and position all happened due to Thanos. So in truth the only thing you can foc heus on with Loki is both the part he played and how well he managed his role, which as we to see saw was nothing shy of perfect. He broke up the team, opened the portal, which is just about all he was meant to do.
! my point is he is not threatening enough to have entire movie about him. none of his plan work and in the end he wasn't even able to give a single heroes a good fight (his scene at the final fight always involve him getting owned in various way)
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/
Oh. My. God.
I, for the first time in many years, am HYPED for such a film. Take me away, Avengers. Take me away. -
! my point is he is not threatening enough to have entire movie about him. none of his plan work and in the end he wasn't even able to give a single heroes a good fight (his scene at the final fight always involve him getting owned in various way)
! I thought his introduction scene in the Avengers established him as actually quite threatening - but beside that, it didn't really matter as such. By himself, he could give each of the heroes a good fight, but even after getting apprehended by Iron Man and Cap, he still appeared somewhat threatening to me since all of that was part of his plan - I loved Hiddleston in this role and I think the character of Loki was played out just perfectly. The way he didn't even mind being in that "cage" on Fury's ship and simply smiled all the time made him all the more menacing and respectable as a villain. Just my opinion, but as Smudge said, in the end he was just another pawn, able to fulfill his role even, and I really, really enjoyed him as a villain.
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These reviews….THESE REVIEWS!
@Peter:
All hail Joss Whedon, the warrior king of this dizzying, dazzling 3D action epic. The Avengers is Transformers with a brain, a heart and a working sense of humor.
YES! I AM HEALED, PRAISE THE LORD!
Joss Whedon, I am so fucking gay for you, right now.
@LUFFY#1:
I really like the comeback song so much I bought it on Itunes
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m39x3sbxbJ1qm8x9fo1_500.gifI'm probably not going to be able to watch it until NEXT weekend, due to finals, but, dear god, is my body ready!