I'd figure her dad wasn't complicit, so he got offed. Big Mom then bet on Pudding. Would be easier to manipulate a daughter into using her ability than a man who likely didn't want anything to do with her. Though even then, you gotta wonder how she came across him in the first place and learned about their ability. So many mysteries.
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Isn't it weird, then, that Big Mom bonked a 3-eyed guy and then, knowing full well their offspring would have a third eye, singled her out for abuse for being 'ugly' in that way? Did she have her ex-husband put a bag over his head so she wouldn't have to look at him or something? It's just odd if she ought to have known ahead of time Pudding would inherit a hard-to-ignore trait from her pop.
If I remember correctly, we only just got BM saying "oh, Pudding, that eye is creepy, can't you cover that up?". I don't think it's weird, it doesn't mean she was taken by surprise by the fact Pudding had a third eye - and it's not like she wanted a 3-eyed kid/husband because she thought it looked cute, she was focusing on the utility of it (it should be pretty obvious by now that BM doesn't marry guys because she is actually attracted to them, she is just thinking on the offspring and/or possible alliances).
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It's not necessarily crossdressing, is it? Something like a cape with a hood to obscure one's face would be unisex, I would think, and a practical piece of apparel for a bandit. Do we know any details about Shuten's appearance that would concretely make it a masculine figure?
There has been no description of what Shutenmaru looks like, or much of anything. All we know is they are a thief who steals from the Shogun and Kaido.
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have we discuss possibility of Bellamy joining the SH main crew in this thread?
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Always remember, this cover, with the most important goat and miner of all times:
No SH besides Luffy there.
Also the camel that has equal billing with the crew.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/5/5e/Volume_22.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/318?cb=20130115022525Eyelash, Carue, Vivi. Three's a crowd.
It's fine if you don't care for my theory, but if you're still trying to trip me up with things you think I missed, how about finding something that actually contradicts what I actually said? Otherwise, let's drop it.
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You are moving the goalpost, you can't predict future crew members if you say that every case that your theory didn't pan out that it didnt count this time.
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You are moving the goalpost, you can't predict future crew members if you say that every case that your theory didn't pan out that it didnt count this time.
I'm sorry, I feel like there's something not quite connecting here.
What I was looking for from the beginning was: Luffy, one or more crewmates, one single new character, all together in one group, such as a lineup, a group battle stance, playing on an island, etc.
I just don't think the goat or the camel fit that. What kind of goalpost am I moving? Because I feel that I'm doing my best to stay consistent.
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Always remember, this cover, with the most important goat and miner of all times:[hide]
[/hide]Only Shanks is more important than that miner! XD
Rumors say this miner accidently found the 4th road poneglyph!Also the camel that has equal billing with the crew.[hide]
[/hide]TBH, I also doubt, that an appearance on a cover sets to Stone any new Crew member (except for vol 43 with Franky on it and vol 64 with Jinbe on it).
Nowadays this is too vague with all the allies the SHs have gathered in the NW. Any of them can Show up on a cover now.But the best theory I've heard was from someone who based everything on a chapter-cover-Picture. It had Nekomamushi on it with 13 cats. And that fan said there have to be 13 SHs in the end because of this very cover. He built that whole theory on the fact, that the cats resembled the active SHs (incl. Jinbe) and then speculated who could be the other three. I really had to laugh, but could you imagine how righteous this fan will feel if we end up with 13 SHs?
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I don't get this zunisha-discussion tbh. It's not like the Minks have to find a new home immediately. And Zunisha could walk to any Island and leave the minks there. I'd prefer sth like Tottoland once BM is gone/defeated/allied.
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as some theorize around here, there's a possibility Kaido takes down Zunisha, yo' kno' mostly for hyping purposes but also because of that matter about migrating.
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Oh, I just noticed it was a cover page requested by Greg! His pseudonyme is Noda Skywalker, isn't it?
Not that I'm aware of. The actual running theory is, given how often Noda Skywalker shows up, that it's actually Oda's daughter.
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Eyelash, Carue, Vivi. Three's a crowd.
Vivi and Carue are unofficial strawhats. Not a crowd at all.
I'm sorry, I feel like there's something not quite connecting here.
What I was looking for from the beginning was: Luffy, one or more crewmates, one single new character, all together in one group, such as a lineup, a group battle stance, playing on an island, etc.
I just don't think the goat or the camel fit that. What kind of goalpost am I moving? Because I feel that I'm doing my best to stay consistent.
"What I was looking for from the beginning" is the problem.
You started with the volume 88 cover and then created a very specific small niche for it and then looked for a pattern based around it, which will of course lead to limited results, which arrives in the end at the result you wanted. Namely "there's not a lot of covers that fit this extremely specific pattern I made up based around cover 88 specifically, hence Carrot is extra special."
You could have just as easily gone "How many covers have the same character in the foreground and the background?" (giants and katakuri fit that bill off the top of my head) "How many covers have 11 people on them?" or "how many covers had the moon?"
I could look at the volume 90 cover and go, "hey, there's three different girls with pink hair on there. I wonder how many times that happens? Oh, this is the only time this happens, so all three of them must be Luffy's future wives." or "Wapol is on there and his name starts with W. I'm going to go through all the covers that have a character's name that starts with W, discover there's not that many, and arrive at the conclusion that Wapol is one of the most important recurring characters." Or "Rob Lucchi is the only old CP9 character on the cover, so that must mean he's reformed and a future ally, along with Wapol."
Even if you narrowed it even further to "covers that had only strawhats plus one extra, standing as a unified group with no montage" and then you'd arrive at the 10 vs 10,000 Jinbe cover. But I'm thinking of that cover specifically when I say that, so that's a bad place to start from because I know up front I'm only going to get one or two results that fit that narrow niche. Except of course, that pattern would actually also include the cover with the camel.
The problem is you STARTED with the result you wanted and then make a pattern criteria based around that, and anything that doesn't fit that exact niche with the result you want, you discredit. That's NOT how research works. You gather evidence first, and THEN look for a conclusion.
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Kaido is the strongest creature. What better way to portray it?
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I'm not Noda Skywalker. That was a running gag on the podcast.
The actual Noda Skywalker is on Twitter. We follow each other. Very cool dude.
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Another thread, another batch of insanity.
Jinbe for life.
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I'm not Noda Skywalker. That was a running gag on the podcast.
The actual Noda Skywalker is on Twitter. We follow each other. Very cool dude.
Noda skywalker must have been losing his mind with all the cool requests delayed by orlumbus' extra long section of the cover story lol
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If I remember correctly, we only just got BM saying "oh, Pudding, that eye is creepy, can't you cover that up?". I don't think it's weird, it doesn't mean she was taken by surprise by the fact Pudding had a third eye - and it's not like she wanted a 3-eyed kid/husband because she thought it looked cute, she was focusing on the utility of it (it should be pretty obvious by now that BM doesn't marry guys because she is actually attracted to them, she is just thinking on the offspring and/or possible alliances).
I mean, I'm just saying, she does things to ensure she gets a wide variety of offspring very methodically as you point out, so it shouldn't have been unexpected on her part to have known she was going to be popping out a 3-eyed kid. If it bothered her that much, Pudding's dad would have had to be similarly abused (whether a willing sperm donor or not) so whatever implementation Big Mom used to keep from being disgusted by her baby-daddy's 3rd eye could have easily been used on Pudding from the time she was born. Like, "Here, ugly, wear this headband or paper bag so I never have to look at that creepy eye" when she's old enough to talk, and when she's a baby, just wrap a second diaper around her head so it's covered before she's got the wherewithal to do it herself. It's like, BM knows what she wants but she goes about it in such a profoundly stupid way it's hard to take her seriously as a leader. And BM didn't tell Katakuri to cover his gulper eel mouth, he decided that on his own, so she's also damn unconventional about what she considers off-putting.
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I mean, I'm just saying, she does things to ensure she gets a wide variety of offspring very methodically as you point out, so it shouldn't have been unexpected on her part to have known she was going to be popping out a 3-eyed kid. If it bothered her that much, Pudding's dad would have had to be similarly abused (whether a willing sperm donor or not) so whatever implementation Big Mom used to keep from being disgusted by her baby-daddy's 3rd eye could have easily been used on Pudding from the time she was born. Like, "Here, ugly, wear this headband or paper bag so I never have to look at that creepy eye" when she's old enough to talk, and when she's a baby, just wrap a second diaper around her head so it's covered before she's got the wherewithal to do it herself. It's like, BM knows what she wants but she goes about it in such a profoundly stupid way it's hard to take her seriously as a leader. And BM didn't tell Katakuri to cover his gulper eel mouth, he decided that on his own, so she's also damn unconventional about what she considers off-putting.
Dude, it's not that difficult. Big Mom is not surprised by the third eye or pissed off that Pudding has it as if the world is ending… Big Mom just thinks that the third eye is as creepy as it is useful and a sign of diversity. Pudding should just hide it behind her bangs in front of Big Mom and it's fine. It's not a matter of putting an iron mask on her face.
Wil we be arbiters of which things should annoy Big Mom and which things should't? And who knows whether or not Big Mom thought that Katakuri's mouth was disgusting? He covered it because of Brulee's incident, but it's said that people used to bully him, maybe even his mother, but Katakuri just didn't care until someone got hurt because of it.
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She just acts stupidly about being annoyed by it, is all. If she's as take-charge as she pretends to be she'd do it herself and forcefully make it so it never comes up. She's not at all shy about abusing her kids so why go easy on them in that case? She just makes no sense. But then the majority of leadership in OP doesn't seem to have their heads screwed on straight.
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Wtf, there's one little panel in which Big Mom tells kid Pudding to grow her bangs (which solves the problem) because her third eye is creepy, a scene without any kind of overreaction from Mama or any utter disgust that is unbearable to her…. and based on that scene you create an insane scenario that Big Mom is losing her shit and needs to cut Pudding's head off in order to never get to look at that third eye ever again, otherwise the character doesn't make sense. lol. What doesn't make sense is your demand.
Nobody thinks that Big Mom is a sweet little mama, but she doesn't need to be overly over the top with every little thing that she finds a little creepy. The whole situation is organic. Pudding is an important daughter because her third eye is important, and Big Mom raised her to perform many roles as her daughter. Ordering Pudding to grow bangs is a simple solution that fixes the creepy aspect of her look (even socially, for Pudding to be accepted and popular among the people) and life goes on sweetly. It's important to notice that Big Mom knows how to manage Totland as a functional territory.
It's also relevant to point out that Big Mom likes diversity because she was taught by her idol to like diversity (she inhiritted what was thought to be Carmel's will, and was raised in the Sheep's House with weird kids, the happiest time of her life). Despite that, Big Mom is shallow-minded and intuitively dislikes some physical traits of some minorities... but she deals with it. She balances out her duality. She is egoistic and she is not nice, but she doesn't do unnecessary things for nothing.
As Big Mom herself has said, "everyone has at least 100 or 200 people they want to kill, but just accept the fact and get along".
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Just one more thing.
People are very complicated and full of idiossincrasies, and so authors create some major characters that give perspective into their comprehension of people's complexities. It's not supposed to be always super easy and predictable to what you think people should be/do, so be open to understand what an author is trying to say about a character before forcing it into a narrow frame.
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This thread is getting into you. Watch out.
As Big Mom herself has said, "everyone has at least 100 or 200 people they want to kill, but just accept the fact and get along".
I will take the chance this scene was mentioned to say it is probably my favorite in WCI. It is the only chance we get to see Linlin talking to her kids as a mom and I love how cool she sounds… I mean, a bloodthirsty amoral pirate mom, sure, but still.
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I'm not Noda Skywalker. That was a running gag on the podcast.
The actual Noda Skywalker is on Twitter. We follow each other. Very cool dude.
Oops! Sorry, man. Didn't know that.
But tell him he has great ideas (though I guess you already did). The one where Brook plays Violine and the tadpoles forming music notes was really sweet.B2T: I guess some filler-Episode-writers wish there would still be only 5 SHs.
The Filler-"arc" with the frog pirates had Robin and Chopper just playin Cards whereas the rest the SHs was diving into the Action.
Especially with Robin I could even understand that. Back then her ability was pretty hax, but she lacked a lot of personality before Aokiji.
She had quite some info about the world, but you had to squeeze any info out of her. Very mysterious with a huge Background, but if you must not reveal anything about her beforehand, you can just make her playing Cards with Chopper. -
But the best theory I've heard was from someone who based everything on a chapter-cover-Picture. It had Nekomamushi on it with 13 cats. And that fan said there have to be 13 SHs in the end because of this very cover. He built that whole theory on the fact, that the cats resembled the active SHs (incl. Jinbe) and then speculated who could be the other three. I really had to laugh, but could you imagine how righteous this fan will feel if we end up with 13 SHs?
I was interested, so I went ahead and looked this up.
http://onepiecegold.altervista.org/oda-really-give-us-final-strawhats-cover-page/
Interesting theory, but using it, this person predicted Pedro would be one of the 13 final crew members, and, well I hate to break it to him, but…
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Wtf, there's one little panel in which Big Mom tells kid Pudding to grow her bangs (which solves the problem) because her third eye is creepy, a scene without any kind of overreaction from Mama or any utter disgust that is unbearable to her…. and based on that scene you create an insane scenario that Big Mom is losing her shit and needs to cut Pudding's head off in order to never get to look at that third eye ever again, otherwise the character doesn't make sense. lol. What doesn't make sense is your demand.
Nobody thinks that Big Mom is a sweet little mama, but she doesn't need to be overly over the top with every little thing that she finds a little creepy. The whole situation is organic. Pudding is an important daughter because her third eye is important, and Big Mom raised her to perform many roles as her daughter. Ordering Pudding to grow bangs is a simple solution that fixes the creepy aspect of her look (even socially, for Pudding to be accepted and popular among the people) and life goes on sweetly. It's important to notice that Big Mom knows how to manage Totland as a functional territory.
It's also relevant to point out that Big Mom likes diversity because she was taught by her idol to like diversity (she inhiritted what was thought to be Carmel's will, and was raised in the Sheep's House with weird kids, the happiest time of her life). Despite that, Big Mom is shallow-minded and intuitively dislikes some physical traits of some minorities... but she deals with it. She balances out her duality. She is egoistic and she is not nice, but she doesn't do unnecessary things for nothing.
As Big Mom herself has said, "everyone has at least 100 or 200 people they want to kill, but just accept the fact and get along".
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Just one more thing.
People are very complicated and full of idiossincrasies, and so authors create some major characters that give perspective into their comprehension of people's complexities. It's not supposed to be always super easy and predictable to what you think people should be/do, so be open to understand what an author is trying to say about a character before forcing it into a narrow frame.
It was enough to make Pudding develop a split personality over it. Makes it seem like a hell of a bigger deal than that which we just didn't get to see.
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It was enough to make Pudding develop a split personality over it. Makes it seem like a hell of a bigger deal than that which we just didn't get to see.
You're restricting Pudding's childhood to her relationship with her mother, as if it were all because of Big Mom that Pudding became self-conscious about her nature/third eye. No, there is an entire environment around her that goes way beyond her mother. In fact, Pudding was the target of scorn by the common folk and used to be bullied by other kids… and she could not grow out of it because she didn't find solace even in her mother, that also thought the third eyes looked creepy. All she learned was how to protect herself early in her life.
Bullying is about how much it matters to the offended, not about the scale of overreaction of the offender (as if Big Mom had to be ultraviolent). In reality, we become self-conscious/embarassed about ourselves when we don't feel accepted for the way we are… and that's Pudding's circunstance with her third eye. In order to be accepted and admired, Pudding had to hide her third eye and put on an act of perfect girl to the people (and look how much she is admired in Cocoa Town), despite having to perform a role of evil bitch behind the scenes (she hides her evil doings just as much as her own third eye).
Besides that, Pudding's split personality is not all about her traumas and bullying. There is more to it. The key factor is that Big Mom is a manipulative mother that takes away the free will of her children, and so Pudding was only another puppet to her mother. Just think about it, all her life just following the orders of her mother... and Pudding thought that that was the only life she could live, because running away is not an option that Big Mom will accept. As you can see, there is a scene in which Pudding is expressing envy for Lola, the daught that actually ran away... but Pudding never took the chance to run... not until she fell in love for Sanji. Up until that moment, Pudding only lived her role as a puppet, because she got a comfortable life doing such (not the life of her dreams, but a comfortable life nonetheless), after all Pudding became one of her mother's favorite daughters.
This situation leads to a conflict of identity, since Pudding's own true self never could develop under the role that she was obliged to perform by her mother. She was an "actress", literally and metaphorically. She had to live her life being an evil bitch, the kind of evil bitch that have to kill her fiancée during her marriage. You see, when you are an actress of your own life, your role becomes part of who you are, it's how you see yourself, it's the way you live, you become the act. Pudding entire life is a lie: from hiding her third eye to living as an evil bitch, she's been lying to herself... and that's exactly what Sanji tells her (for his own dumb reasons, of course).
Pudding's split personality is Pudding's mind coming into terms with who she actually is.
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So it's more like she used that as a means to wear down Pudding's self-esteem and took advantage of that to manipulate her? Makes sense. Still comes down to abuse, just arbitrarily targeting something about that person, whether or not they themselves genuinely dislike it.
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So it's more like she used that as a means to wear down Pudding's self-esteem and took advantage of that to manipulate her? Makes sense. Still comes down to abuse, just arbitrarily targeting something about that person, whether or not they themselves genuinely dislike it.
I didn't say that Big Mom said that Pudding's eye is creepy to intentionally wear down her self-esteem and use it as a means to manipulate her (but if you want to make a free interpretation in that way, it's up to you). What I said is that Big Mom shared the same views of those who used to scorn Pudding ("uuh, creepy eye"), so Pudding didn't have the voice of her mother to comfort her in that regard. It's the circunstance of her environment growing up that explains why Pudding herself feels that her third eye is something monstrous. And then her split personality is due to her life being a painful lie.
Anyway, Big Mom is an abusive mother, certainly… that's not what is in debate. My argument is that you got the wrong idea of Big Mom's personal reaction to Pudding's third eye, and because of that you are going futher to say that Big Mom doesn't make sense because she didn't put a bag in Pudding's head or something (and she kinda did with the bangs, actually), which I disagree....
I'm just explaining why the entire situation is organic, from Pudding to Big Mom herself.
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With the newest chapter and the ending with the tombstones I had a thought.
If there is some sort of time travel element that is happening what if tama dose Join the crew but after they leave the area and end up in the current time and
Sha has aged up therefore fulfilling what ace had said.I'm not really a tama supporter
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A time traveller in the crew? That's cool.
I do think that Tama is not a regular side character.
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A time traveller in the crew? That's cool.
I do think that Tama is not a regular side character.
Yeah im starting to think that too.
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I think time travel is opening up a whole new can of worms One Piece does not need to go into.
Faked deaths covers things much more cleanly.
(And things like Momo talking to Roger probably has to do with Voice of All Things.)
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I think time travel is opening up a whole new can of worms One Piece does not need to go into.
Faked deaths covers things much more cleanly.
(And things like Momo talking to Roger probably has to do with Voice of All Things.)
Yes I agree it was just something I was just thinking if it leads to that
It could be a way for oda to do itI'm not fully on the time travel element
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I think time travel is opening up a whole new can of worms One Piece does not need to go into.
Faked deaths covers things much more cleanly.
(And things like Momo talking to Roger probably has to do with Voice of All Things.)
Then why do the tombs look so old then?
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Tama going to the future to become a Strawhat is far-fatched, certainly, but a functional hypothesis for the time being. It's all fine. Nobody is betting their money on it.
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Then why do the tombs look so old then?
Why did Wanda refer to the strawhats as dead bones?
Because Oda is trying to fake the readers out and pristine markers wouldn't look right. You can attribute it to harsh weather if you need.
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I think time travel is opening up a whole new can of worms One Piece does not need to go into.
Faked deaths covers things much more cleanly.
(And things like Momo talking to Roger probably has to do with Voice of All Things.)
I think it's only a matter of time before we get some type of time manipulation Devil Fruit.
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I think it's only a matter of time before we get some type of time manipulation Devil Fruit.
How about Foxy's Noro Noro?
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Been seeing so many people compare this to the Zou thing, it's not the same at all, but whatever.
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How about Foxy's Noro Noro?
Not the same. The Noro Noro beam is more akin to slowing down matter than slowing down time itself.
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Not the same. The Noro Noro beam is more akin to slowing down matter than slowing down time itself.
That's time manipulation nonetheless, even if very narrow in its use. For instance, maybe Momo was hit by the previous Noro Noro user and was in stasis for the last 20 years, lol. (just saying to give food for thought, not that I believe in this hypothesis)
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Why did Wanda refer to the strawhats as dead bones?
Because Oda is trying to fake the readers out and pristine markers wouldn't look right. You can attribute it to harsh weather if you need.
Zou was unexplored territory. We, the reader, didn't really know anything about it when we got there, save for the Swirly Hats fighting Sheepshead. But in Wano, we've seen the people who are supposed to be dead. And this chapter wouldn't even conclude a volume.
And then there's the catch about the famine in Tama's village four years ago. Kuri wouldn't have had such a thing happen when Oden was alive, no?
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Three things:
One: there's 13 cats in that cover spot and 13 vivre crads before Roger, makes you think
Two: Well I'm not a fan of time travel shenanigans…. but it would explain Momo meeting Roger
Three: Does Holdem remind anyone else of Spandam? I just get a weird feeling
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Three things:
One: there's 13 cats in that cover spot and 13 vivre crads before Roger, makes you think
Makes me think Vivi or the boats are going to have early numbers.
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That's time manipulation nonetheless, even if very narrow in its use. For instance, maybe Momo was hit by the previous Noro Noro user and was in stasis for the last 20 years, lol. (just saying to give food for thought, not that I believe in this hypothesis)
Semantically, it could be considered a minor level of time manipulation. However, the way the Noro Noro beam functions is vastly different because time itself is a concept of measurement and the Noro Noro fruit is manipulating fictional particles to slow down movement.
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Semantically, it could be considered a minor level of time manipulation. However, the way the Noro Noro beam functions is vastly different because time itself is a concept of measurement and the Noro Noro fruit is manipulating fictional particles to slow down movement.
It's certainly not a portal in time, but it's a type of unnatural stasis, which is, in fiction, a type of "time travel", right?
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Not really, the Noro Noro beam slows down particles. Like the process from liquid water to ice.
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Makes me think Vivi or the boats are going to have early numbers.
Vivi : Unlikely. From the SBS, Oda already gave her a number as "Strawhat #5.5". She's an honorary Strawhat but there's no reason why she'd be ranked among the crew in the databook, especially when Law hasn't been given such special treatment either.
Ships : They're either sharing 1 number or they're not in the databook at all. It's implied in the manga that that Going Merry's soul/klabautermann has been passed to the Sunny. The Episode of Merry TV special comes out and straight up states that to be the case. The Klabautermann also has a strong resemblance to the hooded dwarf-sized shipwright from Oda's early crew art if that gives us any insights into Oda's internal thoughts about the crew. Going Merry and Sunny have the same soul and Oda likely considers this spirit to be part of the crew. Also the soldier dock doors of the Sunny being set to 1 AND 3 give the appearance of a giant #13. I'd bank on the Merry/Sunny/Klabautermann sharing #13.
With Jinbe practically being confirmed as #10, that leaves #11 and #12 open.
Also, as I've stated, in Japanese the crew is called Mugiwara no Ichimi. We've already see Oda's use of wordplay in naming the Strawhats devil fruits as well as Sunny's name. "Ichimi" being composed of "Ichi" or 1 and "Mi" or 3. Based on that, it'd give dual meaning to the name of the crew. Mugiwara no Ichimi wouldn't just be "Strawhat Gang" but also roughly "Strawhat of 1·3"
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Not really, the Noro Noro beam slows down particles. Like the process from liquid water to ice.
So if you watched a movie about time travel to the future that briefly uses a pseudo-scientific excuse of "slowing down particles" to justify its plot, would you say that this movie is not about time travel?
I'm just curious. I'm not trying to make a point here.
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I think time travel is opening up a whole new can of worms One Piece does not need to go into.
Faked deaths covers things much more cleanly.
(And things like Momo talking to Roger probably has to do with Voice of All Things.)
We have to back!!!! Im sure zach logan would love that
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Vivi : Unlikely. From the SBS, Oda already gave her a number as "Strawhat #5.5". She's an honorary Strawhat but there's no reason why she'd be ranked among the crew in the databook, especially when Law hasn't been given such special treatment either.
Ships : They're either sharing 1 number or they're not in the databook at all. It's implied in the manga that that Going Merry's soul/klabautermann has been passed to the Sunny. The Episode of Merry TV special comes out and straight up states that to be the case. The Klabautermann also has a strong resemblance to the hooded dwarf-sized shipwright from Oda's early crew art if that gives us any insights into Oda's internal thoughts about the crew. Going Merry and Sunny have the same soul and Oda likely considers this spirit to be part of the crew. Also the soldier dock doors of the Sunny being set to 1 AND 3 give the appearance of a giant #13. I'd bank on the Merry/Sunny/Klabautermann sharing #13.
With Jinbe practically being confirmed as #10, that leaves #11 and #12 open.
Also, as I've stated, in Japanese the crew is called Mugiwara no Ichimi. We've already see Oda's use of wordplay in naming the Strawhats devil fruits as well as Sunny's name. "Ichimi" being composed of "Ichi" or 1 and "Mi" or 3. Based on that, it'd give dual meaning to the name of the crew. Mugiwara no Ichimi wouldn't just be "Strawhat Gang" but also roughly "Strawhat of 1·3"
Regardless of the soul thing they're still different ships that was the entire opening conflict about merry
Chapter 437 Discussion after franky decides to join the Strawhats:
So who think Usopp is inside that duffelbag?
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Going Merry was a major named thing that had emotions and speaking lines. It's absolutely getting a card… somewhere. And if its getting one, Sunny is getting one. All the other major ships I dunno, but there could maybe be a bonus pack just for that. Could even include different numbering.
They may leave those opening slots blank for a very, very long time. The vivre card book is theoretically a "neverending" expansion, it doesn't need to be wrapped up by next year, or even in five years. Though it'll obviously be pretty telling when it gets to Jinbe about a year from now, and I imagine they'd fill those early slots sooner than later.
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Regardless of the soul thing they're still different ships that was the entire opening conflict about merry
They have the same soul. And as I already stated, the early concept art gives us some insights into Oda's internal thoughts. We can infer that Oda considers the klabautermann/spirit to be among the ranks of the crew and puts emphasis on the spirit entity rather than just the physical ship.
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Going Merry was a major named thing that had emotions and speaking lines. It's absolutely getting a card… somewhere. And if its getting one, Sunny is getting one. All the other major ships I dunno, but there could maybe be a bonus pack just for that. Could even include different numbering.
They may leave those opening slots blank for a very, very long time. The vivre card book is theoretically a "neverending" expansion, it doesn't need to be wrapped up by next year, or even in five years. Though it'll obviously be pretty telling when it gets to Jinbe about a year from now, and I imagine they'd fill those early slots sooner than later.
I never said that I thought Going Merry and Sunny wouldn't be getting cards, just that they'd have the same number because they're the same spirit entity. We've already seen that characters can have multiple cards such Luffy/Luffytaro and Zoro/Zorojuro.
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personally I even consider Cavendish a contender for one of those missing spots, being the first commander of Luffy's fleet, tho Barto may get it too.
