The things I found in this place called Internet:
Hiatus x Hiatus III: Goodnight, Sweet Princes
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Translation of Shueisha's reply when asked about the reasons for this Hiatus: "The last hiatus was due to a backache, this one is again because his back condition worsened, so starting next issue we will enter into a hiatus. At present, it is unknown when the series will resume."
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The things I found in this place called Internet:
Well that was extremely fun to watch. Probably completely inaccurate, although we have no real way of knowing how powerful Meruem was post-Netero Nuke. I doubt he'd be Cell level, but he was certainly portrayed as invincible once he absorbed the King's guard.Too bad he got destroyed by Radioactive Rose Cancer. You can be invincible all you want, but your death must be anticlimactic. So dictates Togashi.
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Well that was extremely fun to watch. Probably completely inaccurate, although we have no real way of knowing how powerful Meruem was post-Netero Nuke. I doubt he'd be Cell level, but he was certainly portrayed as invincible once he absorbed the King's guard.Too bad he got destroyed by Radioactive Rose Cancer. You can be invincible all you want, but your death must be anticlimactic. So dictates Togashi.
Making Meruem and presumably the Royal Guards above Netero-Level might have be Togashi's worst decision.
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Making Meruem and presumably the Royal Guards above Netero-Level might have be Togashi's worst decision.
Was it really though? I found the whole idea of an invincible bad guy quite amusing. Togashi purposefully wrote himself into a corner, then purposefully clawed his way out of it through highly unconventional means. It wasn't a training arc that killed Meruem, nor a bs friendship power-up, nor a do-or-die last ditch blast from the good guys. Togashi found a different (if somewhat anticlimactic) way to eliminate the biggest threat the HxHVerse had ever faced. He chose to make us care for Meruem, then had him survive the battle against the 'good guys' against all expectation, had him grow even stronger, and then brutally murdered Meruem with cancer. He turned the 'big bad' into a good guy, turned the humans into the bad guy.He flipped expectation of a regular shonen, sidelined the main characters, fucked with the power-structures, and then left us wishing for more, as the initially evil King that we'd eventually grown to love died and humanity's ruthlessness became the true bad guy nobody could empathise with. Personally, I thought it was brilliant. You can disagree if you want though
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Was it really though? I found the whole idea of an invincible bad guy quite amusing. Togashi purposefully wrote himself into a corner, then purposefully clawed his way out of it through highly unconventional means. It wasn't a training arc that killed Meruem, nor a bs friendship power-up, nor a do-or-die last ditch blast from the good guys. Togashi found a different (if somewhat anticlimactic) way to eliminate the biggest threat the HxHVerse had ever faced. He chose to make us care for Meruem, then had him survive the battle against the 'good guys' against all expectation, had him grow even stronger, and then brutally murdered Meruem with cancer. He turned the 'big bad' into a good guy, turned the humans into the bad guy.He flipped expectation of a regular shonen, sidelined the main characters, fucked with the power-structures, and then left us wishing for more, as the initially evil King that we'd eventually grown to love died and humanity's ruthlessness became the true bad guy nobody could empathise with. Personally, I thought it was brilliant. You can disagree if you want though
Whether you like it or hate it, you gotta admit it was original. And that's more than most shonen series nowadays are capable of doing.I can see Togashi still keeping all these qualities on Meruem without the Invincible Bad Guy archetype. Usually when you utilize this type of character you get something like Madara, Bach or Raoh.
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I can see Togashi still keeping all these qualities on Meruem without the Invincible Bad Guy archetype. Usually when you utilize this type of character you get something like Madara, Bach or Raoh.
The arc wouldn't have been as impactful if the heroes had any way of beating the king or the royal guard to be honest. The amount of effort they had to give to even come close was so interesting to watch.
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Gon and Killua had a training arc before they were allowed to participate, and Gon had a BS friendship powerup that let him win his fight.
These weren't things that took down the main villain, but the shonen staples were still soundly in place for the leads.
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Gon and Killua had a training arc before they were allowed to participate, and Gon had a BS friendship powerup that let him win his fight.
These weren't things that took down the main villain, but the shonen staples were still soundly in place for the leads.
I'm not saying that the ant arc was perfect. Far from it, the Pitou stuff was handled rather badly. However, with Meruem being so incredibly powerful, the acts of Killua and Gon were almost inconsequential to that part of the plot. Sure, K and G might have thought they were helping, but the arc was set up in such a way that Pitou's story and Meruem's story were really quite separate. The Meruem stuff was brilliant, the Pitou, Kite and Gon dramaā¦ not so much.
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Oh, so an arc where had the main characters of the series not even been involved, literally nothing would have changed? That's just fantastic.
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Far from it, the Pitou stuff was handled rather badly..
I struggle to see in which way. I liked the KA arc in its entirety, the relation between Pitou/Kite/Gon included. ā Man, reading the part when Meruem asks Pamu to lead him to Komugi with this song playing in the background:
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Was it really though? I found the whole idea of an invincible bad guy quite amusing. Togashi purposefully wrote himself into a corner, then purposefully clawed his way out of it through highly unconventional means. It wasn't a training arc that killed Meruem, nor a bs friendship power-up, nor a do-or-die last ditch blast from the good guys. Togashi found a different (if somewhat anticlimactic) way to eliminate the biggest threat the HxHVerse had ever faced. He chose to make us care for Meruem, then had him survive the battle against the 'good guys' against all expectation, had him grow even stronger, and then brutally murdered Meruem with cancer. He turned the 'big bad' into a good guy, turned the humans into the bad guy.He flipped expectation of a regular shonen, sidelined the main characters, fucked with the power-structures, and then left us wishing for more, as the initially evil King that we'd eventually grown to love died and humanity's ruthlessness became the true bad guy nobody could empathise with. Personally, I thought it was brilliant. You can disagree if you want though
Whether you like it or hate it, you gotta admit it was original. And that's more than most shonen series nowadays are capable of doing.Meruem was taken down by a do-or-die Deus Ex Machina, not for making us care for him.
Plus, don't pretend Meruem was a good guy. He grew, but never actually let go of his plan to farm humans into food, except for the sake of social Darwinism instead of just hunger. Never mind that Togashi directly stated that the reason Meruem and other Chimera Ants mellowed out was because they had humanity within them, which contrasted with their ant (i.e. evil monster) side that would show up every now and then, so the humans being the bad guys doesn't really hold as they had all the justification to do what they did.
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Oh, so an arc where had the main characters of the series not even been involved, literally nothing would have changed? That's just fantastic.
ThatĀ“s not what he said. He said Gon and Killua part in the arc only interfered with PitouĀ“s part. Gon and Killua were inconsequetial to everything Meruem related, but they were necessary to develop the character of Pitou, or she would just be another Yuopi with half of an idea of development getting put in between her battles.
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And ultimately fighting Yupi and Pitou were pointless.
All the ants were ultimately killed by the rose bomb. Which could have just been dropped from the sky, no problem. Some human casualties maybe, but it does the exact same thing. Heroes were completely inconsequential to it all. Didn't even need Netero really.
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It's just like Raiders of the Lost Arc, the main character is inconsequential to the plot, yet is amusing see him strugle.
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And ultimately fighting Yupi and Pitou were pointless.
All the ants were ultimately killed by the rose bomb. Which could have just been dropped from the sky, no problem. Some human casualties maybe, but it does the exact same thing. Heroes were completely inconsequential to it all. Didn't even need Netero really.
Literally the entire populace of a small country
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They tried and failed to save everyone, Netero wanted to fight, the humans were selfconceited.
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And ultimately fighting Yupi and Pitou were pointless. All the ants were ultimately killed by the rose bomb. Which could have just been dropped from the sky, no problem. Some human casualties maybe, but it does the exact same thing. Heroes were completely inconsequential to it all. Didn't even need Netero really.
IĀ“m not sure the bomb worked like. It needed a trigger to blast. Taking the guards away from King was the only way to ensure that they would be able to lure him to a remote location to blast the bomb. DonĀ“t get me wrong, it was far from my favourite resolution, but I enjoyed Togashi at least trying something different. I guess it was also a way to make the statement that "humans are monsters" stronger.
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And ultimately fighting Yupi and Pitou were pointless.All the ants were ultimately killed by the rose bomb. Which could have just been dropped from the sky, no problem. Some human casualties maybe, but it does the exact same thing. Heroes were completely inconsequential to it all. Didn't even need Netero really.
The entire point of the mission was to take out the ants in a way that didn't lead to the massacre of the entire country's populace. All of East Gorteau went to the plaza. If a nuclear bomb was dropped upon the palace while all the ants were inside it, the entire nation's population would also be wiped out.
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Also, wouldn't Pitou's En caught anyone trying to get there with a bomb?
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Decided to reread the earlier hunter exam arc. Iām up till the middle of the third round. The next round of chapters would be coming in 2 yearsā time anywayā¦
I forgotten how problematic and messed up the hunter exam system was.! The pre-exam elimination is fine, I guess. If you canāt even get yourself to the actual exam venue, you really shouldnāt be taking the test at all. And thereās no on screen death caused by itā¦
! I can accept that the hunter exam is extremely difficult and the risk of dying/being injured is really high. Everyone applied to the exam knowing that fact and they are still willing to take the risk so itās all fine. Heck, the first examiner mentioned that fact again and they are still willing to take it.
! Death caused by nature itself (The whole swamp area and the dude being eaten by those creatures at the beginning of the third round) is gruesome. But if you canāt even survive against some bunch of creatures, being a hunter is going to be impossible. Itās the survival of the fittest. Of course, the examiners could have went for a less brutal method of eliminating the examineesā¦
! Speaking of the examiners, they are bunch of awful people.
! āThe examiners of the hunter exam changes every year and the contents of the exams are decided by the examiners as well. If the examiner of the particular year says āpassāā¦ even the devil could pass the hunter examā
! The translation may differ but this is really messed up. Hisoka attempted to murder an examiner and killed a bunch of examinees in the previous exam. He was merely disqualified and allowed to retake the exam next year. Even before the exam started, he chopped an examineeās arm and no action is taken against him. Tonpa is all like āIt happens.ā
When the tests started, he attacked the examiner and was just given a warning. He then proceeds to murder some of the examinees. No action is taken against him. (Apparently the lives of the examiner worth more than the examinees themselvesā¦)
! The examiners all are cautious against Hisoka. It hilarious how none of them have any solutions to deal with him. How about arresting him or ban him from retaking the exam? Even Netero didnāt give a crap about Hisoka.
! I thought hunters are supposed to be highly respected group of peopleā¦Seriously, they are allowing a murderer into their highly ārespectedā field and allowed him to blatantly abuse the rights & power that hunters possessā¦
! Thereās also Killua & Illumi. I like Killua as a character but him killing those two random examinee was uncalled forā¦Again no action taken against him.
! Honestly, the examiners themselves donāt really care much about the examinees. They mentioned that examinees attacking other examinees happen. But no system is in place to prevent needless murder and dealing out penalty against those that commit the actā¦
One of the examiner was about to murder one of the examinee at one pointā¦
! And then thereās the third round examiner who is a blacklist hunter. Using inmates to carry out the exam is fine and all if thereās strict condition in place. But heās reducing their life sentence in returnā¦Isn't it your job to keep criminal locked up?!
! While Iām aware that the election arc address the issue with criminals entering the exam, it was handled very badlyā¦The only group of hunters that care about this issue were murdered by hisoka. And none of the hunters seem to care about their death muchā¦ -
I enjoyed the Chimera ant. I think Meruem being unattainable was one of the crucial point of his character. When it came to pure power he could not be match. It made the whole relation with Kumogi who was so weak that much more interesting and how emotions was ultimately a big part of his failures(ripping his arm, following Netero). He certainly evolved while still staying an enemy of humanity(I can't really say evil) since he wanted to farm human so it's not like a good guy was killed. I find it interesting experience to explore the villain from so close it felt he was a protagonanist.The resolution was fine with me. He died from an armed weapon by those he deemed inferiror not because they had more power but rather because of their ingeniosity. My problem was that he should not have been restored by his guards. That comes from someone who loved his death chapter. It would have work just fine if at the end a extremly weaken Meruem made his way back to the palace and in his dying moments chose to play a little more Shogi with Komugi.Was Gon useless? He made them discover nen and got Kaito killed. So not really. He caused a pretty dire situation actually. I was with the resolution of his plotline and see the easy-going Gon build such a determination for revenge(which made sense considering how important Kaito was to him). I don't need(or want) the protagonist to be the center of every important event of his world. Gon was still part of the Ant adventure, just not at the center of it.ā- Update From New Post Merge ---@SunnyBlue:
Decided to reread the earlier hunter exam arc. Iām up till the middle of the third round. The next round of chapters would be coming in 2 yearsā time anywayā¦I forgotten how problematic and messed up the hunter exam system was.
! The pre-exam elimination is fine, I guess. If you canāt even get yourself to the actual exam venue, you really shouldnāt be taking the test at all. And thereās no on screen death caused by itā¦I can accept that the hunter exam is extremely difficult and the risk of dying/being injured is really high. Everyone applied to the exam knowing that fact and they are still willing to take the risk so itās all fine. Heck, the first examiner mentioned that fact again and they are still willing to take it. Death caused by nature itself (The whole swamp area and the dude being eaten by those creatures at the beginning of the third round) is gruesome. But if you canāt even survive against some bunch of creatures, being a hunter is going to be impossible. Itās the survival of the fittest. Of course, the examiners could have went for a less brutal method of eliminating the examineesā¦Speaking of the examiners, they are bunch of awful people._āThe examiners of the hunter exam changes every year and the contents of the exams are decided by the examiners as well. If the examiner of the particular year says āpassāā¦ even the devil could pass the hunter examā_The translation may differ but this is really messed up. Hisoka attempted to murder an examiner and killed a bunch of examinees in the previous exam. He was merely disqualified and allowed to retake the exam next year. Even before the exam started, he chopped an examineeās arm and no action is taken against him. Tonpa is all like āIt happens.ā When the tests started, he attacked the examiner and was just given a warning. He then proceeds to murder some of the examinees. No action is taken against him. (Apparently the lives of the examiner worth more than the examinees themselvesā¦)The examiners all are cautious against Hisoka. It hilarious how none of them have any solutions to deal with him. How about arresting him or ban him from retaking the exam? Even Netero didnāt give a crap about Hisoka.I thought hunters are supposed to be highly respected group of peopleā¦Seriously, they are allowing a murderer into their highly ārespectedā field and allowed him to blatantly abuse the rights & power that hunters possessā¦Thereās also Killua & Illumi. I like Killua as a character but him killing those two random examinee was uncalled forā¦Again no action taken against him.Honestly, the examiners themselves donāt really care much about the examinees. They mentioned that examinees attacking other examinees happen. But no system is in place to prevent needless murder and dealing out penalty against those that commit the actā¦One of the examiner was about to murder one of the examinee at one pointā¦And then thereās the third round examiner who is a blacklist hunter. Using inmates to carry out the exam is fine and all if thereās strict condition in place. But heās reducing their life sentence in returnā¦Isn't it your job to keep criminal locked up?!While Iām aware that the election arc address the issue with criminals entering the exam, it was handled very badlyā¦The only group of hunters that care about this issue were murdered by hisoka. And none of the hunters seem to care about their death muchā¦
I don't think the hunters ever pretended to be a moral association(or was ever presented as one). They don't give the slightest F about who you are and why you want to become an hunter. The hunter exam is more about giving people with incredible abilities the ability to do incredible things. They are incredible people not moral ones. The exam is based on the same principal. PS: How do you manage to post normally(with different paragraphs)? Is there a trick to it?
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i think it's a good thing honestly. Too much main character can be suffocating (i.e.: naruto)
If the main characters add nothing to the events, then maybe they shouldn't be in the situation to begin with and the story shouldn't be about that? Or at least not have them in it?
I'm totally fine with the HxH world having different big things going on, and not having Gon and Killua involved in things. (Or Leorio and Kurapika as the case may be.) But if the author wants to do that, thenā¦ do that. Don't throw them into the event in a way that's overall meaningless and then spend 7 real world years on that event, just tell the actual different story about different people.
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Gon and Killua weren't completely uninvolved though, Gon went through a character arc about the pitfalls hate leads to(hence Killua splitting up with him at the end of the whole thing) and Killua made a real difference by saving Knuckle's life several times and recovering Palm and Ikalgo(which in turn led to a lot of Meruem's character development).
If you don't focus on the Meruem stuff you'd realise quite a lot of the arc was devoted to Gon and Killua's story.
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So was there not one more chapter this week? or was last week's the last one?
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So was there not one more chapter this week? or was last week's the last one?
The last week was the last one. It is said on the last page.
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If the main characters add nothing to the events, then maybe they shouldn't be in the situation to begin with and the story shouldn't be about that? Or at least not have them in it?
I'm totally fine with the HxH world having different big things going on, and not having Gon and Killua involved in things. (Or Leorio and Kurapika as the case may be.) But if the author wants to do that, thenā¦ do that. Don't throw them into the event in a way that's overall meaningless and then spend 7 real world years on that event, just tell the actual different story about different people.
theres no way Gon could have done anything about the ant people much less the ant King, and I still liked the story. It set up a lot of anticipation for the Dark Continent, which I don't think would have happened if Muerem was the kind of guy that could be beaten by simply gritting your teeth and punching harder. HxH is a series that doesn't play by the rules and does unexpected shit all the time and is better for it. Who gives a crap if Gon didn't have a big role in the arc? We haven't seen Killua or Doctor Man for ages at that point either. I would have been more pissed if they had gone the more traditional shonen route with this because honestly fuck the idea that the main characters have to have their big noses stuck up in every main event of the story ever. It was a huge event for the world as we know it and Gon didn't happen to be all that involved. So what? It doesn't mean it won't result in repercussions or growths down the line for him.
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I always appreciate how the shonen power-up was straight-up part of the nen System.
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I would have been more pissed if they had gone the more traditional shonen route with this because honestly fuck the idea that the main characters have to have their big noses stuck up in every main event of the story ever. It was a huge event for the world as we know it and Gon didn't happen to be all that involved. So what? It doesn't mean it won't result in repercussions or growths down the line for him.
ā¦we're agreeing on this though? Gon didn't happen to be involved. He didn't need to be in that part of the story at all. But he was still there. It was the traditional shonen thing to force him and Killua there rather than just focus on a new group of characters.
Its a weird narrative choice to have them there at all.
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I thought Gon only cared about going to help Kite and then to get revenge for Kite. His beef was with Pitou not really the King.
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Just caught up with the released chapters. I like where the story is going and I like that Togashi is focusing on other characters besides Gon and Killua at the moment.
Now we play the waiting game.
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I still haven't read the dark continent arc yet. it's not like I've read the whole chapters before this one but I just want to know what happened after the chimera ant arc.
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I still haven't read the dark continent arc yet. it's not like I've read the whole chapters before this one but I just want to know what happened after the chimera ant arc.
Killua had a dues ex machina sister-brother that could heal Gon, Chrollo fought Hisoka for five chapters with no real resolution, and basically anyone else ever in the cast spent 16 chapters planning to get on a boat.
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Killua had a dues ex machina sister-brother that could heal Gon, Chrollo fought Hisoka for five chapters with no real resolution, and basically anyone else ever in the cast spent 16 chapters planning to get on a boat.
I meant after the election arc not CA one lol. I've watched the whole anime series.
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Still the same answer. Chrollo fought Hisoka for five chapters with no real resolution, and basically anyone else ever in the cast spent 16 chapters planning to get on a boat.
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Which is definietly worth it
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Lots of hints were dropped in these last ten chapters. Specifically around Phantom Troupe ideology, Chrollo, and we even learned some more about Hisoka. Buy the official translation, I highly recommend it. To briefly summarize:
- 1. Chrollo views corpses as "inanimate objects" and even living beings as "objects." How does this tie into Meteor City, which prides itself on receiving everything discarded? How does this mindset generate the enigmatic leader of the infamous Phantom Troupe? What a creep, but it's a little scary to think about the mindset of someone so casually able to disregard life.
- 2. Togashi literally is proving why breaks are necessary in manga. This highly anticipated fight not only delivered, but featured almost everything I love about Hunter x Hunter battles. I'm serious when I say I think it blew every shonen fight from the past two years out of the water. Which ones can compare in sheer creativity?
- 3. Fighting styles. Chrollo uses a lot of feints and kicks. Virtually unstoppable if fought in public or given time to plan, seeing as how he isn't above sacrificing innocents to achieve what he needs.
- 4. When Kurapika comes into contact with him again, what will happen? I wouldn't mind Kurapika shooting Chrollo, but Chrollo is a man more concerned with his mission (get money, f*** b******?) and his comrades over his own life.
- 5. Hisoka remains cool under all pressure. It's impressive how fast his mind works in combat. We had a fight working in slow-mo just like the Chimera Ant battles. Hearing Hisoka's inner voice really gave insight into the genius strategist that he is. Writing his fights must be difficult. Chrollo's a different kind of strategist.
- 6. Now that we've seen a high-level Manipulator operate, I have a newfound respect for them. Manipulators are essentially one-hit-kills. If the conditions are fulfilled at all, you're screwed. Imagine how messed up this battle would have been if Order Stamp allowed for Chrollo to control dead bodies. I definitely think we'll see a zombie Manipulator later in the series (though I guess Neferpitou counts). Grotesque.
- 7. We've seen a high level Enhancer (Netero, combined with Conjuration/Uvogin/Gon), Transmuter (Hisoka, who keeps revealing more and more about the possibilities of transmutation/Zeno), Conjuration (Kortopi was perhaps the best pure Conjurer) and a ton of Specialists, I would love to see high-level Emission abilities.
- 8. Togashi is definitely exploring more of the horrors of Nen as the series goes on. He's always hinted at it (i.e. disfigurement in Heavens Arena, abilities in Yorknew City, the Chimera Ant arcā¦) but is getting more blatant as the series goes on. It's a very effective storytelling device. Parasitic-Type Nen explores further down the iceberg. Anyone who knows anything about parasites knows the terror they pose () (). The Dark Continent is going to be insane.
- 9. The cliffhanger at the end of this volume is very reminiscent of the Yorknew arc when Kurapika enters the Nostrade mansion. Kurapika is about to showcase a new ability. Also, maybe utilize that gun too.
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See you all in another 1.5 years!
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Series is coming back on June 26th, apparently. For how long, nobody knows. Probably enough for a volume.
First person to ask for the thread title to be changed to "Hunter x Hunter" gets to be blamed for it ending again, since the last two times that came up the series ended literally the next day. It's going to be Hiatus x Hiatus forever, until it actually earns the right to not have that as it's title.
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Ha! Didn't even took 1.5 years.
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Can someone explain to me the reason for some japanese manga being called Something x Something? Like this one, or Robot x Laserbeam? Because I really don't understand it. Sorry if it's a stupid unrelated questionā¦
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Series is coming back on June 26th, apparently. For how long, nobody knows. Probably enough for a volume.
First person to ask for the thread title to be changed to "Hunter x Hunter" gets to be blamed for it ending again, since the last two times that came up the series ended literally the next day. It's going to be Hiatus x Hiatus forever, until it actually earns the right to not have that as it's title.
great news, may i ask where you've heard/read about it? im looking through ANN and i'm not finding anything.
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Volume 34 is coming out and I'm willing to bet we will have another one by the end of the year. Hopefully he can work longer before the next hiatus.
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I give it 6 or 7 chapters.
Dragon Quest XI is releasing late July after all.
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great news, may i ask where you've heard/read about it? im looking through ANN and i'm not finding anything.
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In case of this manga its basically hunter(gon) hunting the hunter (ging), aka HunterxHunter.
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I hope we get to see Chrollos reaction after finding out Shal and Kortopi got killed by Hisoka because he never gave them back their hatsu.
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