I think the Straw Hat Grand Fleet must have set sail for Whole Cake Island(or in Luffy's trail) as they must have noticed Luffy's vivre card burning up since he was near death due to fish poison. I think we will see them in Big Mom's arc especially since focus was given to Luffy's vivre card on Bartolomeo's ship.
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@$;3646605']I think the Straw Hat Grand Fleet must have set sail for Whole Cake Island(or in Luffy's trail) as they must have noticed Luffy's vivre card burning up since he was near death due to fish poison. Do I think we will see them in Big Mom's arc.
That's pretty clever.
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A bit too soon for them to return, I don't know. Besides, now that Reiji healed Luffy, the vivre card should show he is fine again.
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Maybe at least one of them was close enough to get there. It's been a few weeks since they left the story after all.
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@'T€:
@$;3646605']I think the Straw Hat Grand Fleet must have set sail for Whole Cake Island(or in Luffy's trail) as they must have noticed Luffy's vivre card burning up since he was near death due to fish poison. I think we will see them in Big Mom's arc especially since focus was given to Luffy's vivre card on Bartolomeo's ship.
not really it could just be like when luffy saw ace's card burning up and he thought ace would be fine since he thinks ace is strong or that the card would have gone back to normal when the poison was removed.
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"Luffy's Vivre Card is burning! Set Sail!!!!"
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I need a Vinsmoke banner… Can someone help me out. This one is to big... But goddamn look at this family <3
Wow Oda isn't just copying Nami designs with the Vinsmoke family…look at Yonji, he looks like Zoro lol. You know, it'd be funny if these ideas were done on purpose this time to show that Sanji's new family has parallels to his old (vinsmoke) family.
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@Mr.:
Curious on what stance Jinbei takes on Sanji's upcoming wedding. Surely he knows about it, but will he try to convince Luffy and the crew to allow it to prevent a monumental shitstorm and incurring Big Mom's wrath toward Fishman Island or will he be ready to help in rescuing Sanji.
Naturally, Jinbei is going to give the SHs the lowdown on what is going on behind the scenes (as far as he knows).
Big question is whether or not Jinbei knew Sanji was a Vinsmoke earlier or if he just learns it after reuniting with the SHs with his eyes falling out of their sockets and his jaw on the floor.
It's too late for that, he challenged Big Mom and said he'd make Fishman Island his turf waaaaay several hundred chapters ago in Fishman Island's Arc itself.
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I'm sorry but that face has me cracking up laughing XD what chapter was it from?
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Wow Oda isn't just copying Nami designs with the Vinsmoke family…look at Yonji, he looks like Zoro lol. You know, it'd be funny if these ideas were done on purpose this time to show that Sanji's new family has parallels to his old (vinsmoke) family.
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It's too late for that, he challenged Big Mom and said he'd make Fishman Island his turf waaaaay several hundred chapters ago in Fishman Island's Arc itself.
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I'm sorry but that face has me cracking up laughing XD what chapter was it from?
Chapter 818
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Remember the moment when it says the luffys fleet will be the one that will create a huge mess in the future?
Chap.800 !
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I like how Yonji used color of observation to stop Reiju's kick :ninja:
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@le:
I like how the topics just jump off the cliff sometimes in AP.
About Reiju, I forsee the Sanji X Rejiu ship in the near future. shudders
Take away their background and it's fine by me.
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Okay, VIZ chapter's out! Let's see how it compares with Mangastream.
- Twice in the chapter, the Vinsmokes say they've "lost their way" in MS, but they say they've "missed [Sanji]" ("missed" here as in "failed to run into each other") in VIZ.
- Reiju's VIZ description of Yonji: "I'm afraid my little brother is a heartless, unsympathetic creep."
- A couple of minor semantics stuff: their crew calls her "Lady Reiju" instead of "Miss Reiju", and Pekoms states that Germa "uses science to fight" in VIZ, rather than just "advanced technology."
- Brook describes the Vinsmokes in MS as "a clan that, long ago, ruled all of North Blue with an iron fist", whereas in VIZ, he says "a noble family that conquered North Blue with military might ages ago."
- Bottom middle panel of MS page 12 (stating that the Vinsmoke name was synonymous with "evil"): it seems like Brook is talking in MS (using "their name" and "them"), but in VIZ it's either Reiju or Yonji speaking (uses "our name" and "we").
- Since I saw people asking about this: Reiju's VIZ description of Germa not having a country: "Germa is a nation without land. We own no territory, but we have the right to attend the Reverie."
- Instead of Reiju saying "[Sanji] left us", she says "we were separated" at a very young age.
- Pekoms, instead of saying he "has his reasons" to travel with the Straw Hats, is more specific and says he "has his own business to conduct."
- Not sure if it means anything, but Aladdin asks Jimbei "What's the plan?" instead of "What are your orders?", which sounds a bit less sinister to me.
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Okay, VIZ chapter's out! Let's see how it compares with Mangastream.
- Twice in the chapter, the Vinsmokes say they've "lost their way" in MS, but they say they've "missed [Sanji]" ("missed" here as in "failed to run into each other") in VIZ.
- Reiju's VIZ description of Yonji: "I'm afraid my little brother is a heartless, unsympathetic creep."
- A couple of minor semantics stuff: their crew calls her "Lady Reiju" instead of "Miss Reiju", and Pekoms states that Germa "uses science to fight" in VIZ, rather than just "advanced technology."
- Brook describes the Vinsmokes in MS as "a clan that, long ago, ruled all of North Blue with an iron fist", whereas in VIZ, he says "a noble family that conquered North Blue with military might ages ago."
- Bottom middle panel of MS page 12 (stating that the Vinsmoke name was synonymous with "evil"): it seems like Brook is talking in MS (using "their name" and "them"), but in VIZ it's either Reiju or Yonji speaking (uses "our name" and "we").
- Since I saw people asking about this: Reiju's VIZ description of Germa not having a country: "Germa is a nation without land. We own no territory, but we have the right to attend the Reverie."
- Instead of Reiju saying "[Sanji] left us", she says "we were separated" at a very young age.
- Pekoms, instead of saying he "has his reasons" to travel with the Straw Hats, is more specific and says he "has his own business to conduct."
- Not sure if it means anything, but Aladdin asks Jimbei "What's the plan?" instead of "What are your orders?", which sounds a bit less sinister to me.
Well that puts the kabosh in my theory that there were 4 megastates assigned to rule over each of the blues by the world government, damn mangastream
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This story of Sanji's family still feel a bit wierd. Enemies of WG, but still working with the wg since they are royals, they got no land, and even more strange why Sanji left since at least his sister seems great. What if someone wanted sanji to leave, like one of brothers, and did something to make him leave.
Maybe Sanji has a Stelly - Sabo relation with one of his brothers.
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Maybe Sanji has a Stelly - Sabo relation with one of his brothers.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Sanji and Yonji hate each other, since Yonji seems like an ass. That would even be another "older brother is good, younger brother is a jerk" parallel Sabo and Stelly. We still have to meet Ichiji and Niji (assuming they didn't die in Sanji's backstory or something) and see his relationship with them.
It also wouldn't surprise me to find out that Sanji and Reiju do get along. She sounds like she cares about him. @Long:
Well that puts the kabosh in my theory that there were 4 megastates assigned to rule over each of the blues by the world government, damn mangastream
Ha, yeah, I'm guessing Mangastream's vague translations have given birth to so many wrong theories over the years. I can even think of like two or three off the top of my head right now.
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if Sanji and Yonji hate each other, since Yonji seems like an ass. That would even be another "older brother is good, younger brother is a jerk" parallel Sabo and Stelly. We still have to meet Ichiji and Niji (assuming they didn't die in Sanji's backstory or something) and see his relationship with them.
It also wouldn't surprise me to find out that Sanji and Reiju do get along. She sounds like she cares about him. Ha, yeah, I'm guessing Mangastream's vague translations have given birth to so many wrong theories over the years. I can even think of like two or three off the top of my head right now.
Well it's not even that but there's a world of difference between taking over the north blue and being bestowed with it,
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So: Vinsmock a family that conquered north blue through military occupation. I wonder how long ago did that happen since Brooke left West Blue.. Also the name and the myth. When did Germa 66 come to or where does the name come from? Is Germa 66 the remnants of the army that conquered North Blue after they lost their rule?
Also the relationship with the World Government. Is it good or bad? If good, how does that tie into the wedding, what is the ulterior motive? Are they just acting on behalf of WG orders to carry out the assasination of Big Mom? Are all the Vinsmock in favor of the union, as much as they wanted to avoid calling off the wedding, after knowing Luffy's intention are they just going to let him free to mess up with the ceremony anyways? If bad, are the Vinsmock trying to severe ties with the government to finally regain their land back? I could go on…but some other time
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Aladdin asks Jinbe what's the plan…
For the love of Dog Oda let Jinbe cycle through a few titles before he gives his orders.
Jinbe: "Shale we conduct Operation Cook Out? Don't Sweat the Sweets? Or how about You May Not Kiss the Cook?"
Alladin: "Just pick one already!!!"
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Jinbe could sure use a few quirks and that one is pretty cute.
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I'm so looking forward to meet the whole family
Guess those two are Ichiji and Niiji… Family complete ! The father is still a mystery, and maybe... a mother too ???.
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I'm so looking forward to meet the whole family
Guess those two are Ichiji and Niiji… Family complete ! The father is still a mystery, and maybe... a mother too ???.
If clockbeard is sanji's father, the there is a women next to him, that looks more like a mother then sanji's sister.
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Accept my gratitude! Catch it!
Yeah, I was wondering why Jinbei sounded like a mustache twirling palm rubbing mastermind of some sort there. Or perhaps like what RD said, he was still trying to decide on the plan name while referring to his gargantuan '1001 Tips for Naming Plans' guidebook. Turns out it wasn't. Aww, no fun.
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So, Jimbei is showing up soon. I don't have access to my volumes right now, so maybe you guys could help me with a question? Near the end of Fishman Island, Jimbei and Neptune were talking, and he discussed the reasons he couldn't join the straw hats yet. Did he say during that conversation that he was captain of the Sun pirates? Did Jimbei have a crew after the Sun Pirates split or even after the war? I seem to remember him leading a portion of the Sun Pirates, like a New Sun Pirates kind of deal. I thought it would seem weird then for Jimbei to just abandon his crew to join Luffy, and thought it might make more sense for Jimbei and his crew to align themselves with the Straw Hat Grand Fleet.
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So, Jimbei is showing up soon. I don't have access to my volumes right now, so maybe you guys could help me with a question? Near the end of Fishman Island, Jimbei and Neptune were talking, and he discussed the reasons he couldn't join the straw hats yet. Did he say during that conversation that he was captain of the Sun pirates? Did Jimbei have a crew after the Sun Pirates split or even after the war? I seem to remember him leading a portion of the Sun Pirates, like a New Sun Pirates kind of deal. I thought it would seem weird then for Jimbei to just abandon his crew to join Luffy, and thought it might make more sense for Jimbei and his crew to align themselves with the Straw Hat Grand Fleet.
I think the main issue here is that the remaining Fishman Pirates are under Big Mom and we have a idea of what she does to "party poopers". He can't just quit it like that.
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I'm so looking forward to meet the whole family
Guess those two are Ichiji and Niiji… Family complete ! The father is still a mystery, and maybe... a mother too ???.
Niji seems to have a pompadour, I also thought the first time I saw that person with the seagull on his head Sengoku came into my head he's the only person shown with that
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Just a small thing I've been rewatching water 7/enies lobby and during Sanjis fight with Wanze he points out his eyebrows and for a moment Sanjis face goes 'hang on this mitherfucker doesn't know does he?' And hides his relief with his reaction to the other calling him weird. In fact a lot of things seem interesting rewatching now we know this
(I didn't know where else to mention this)
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Just a small thing I've been rewatching water 7/enies lobby and during Sanjis fight with Wanze he points out his eyebrows and for a moment Sanjis face goes 'hang on this mitherfucker doesn't know does he?' And hides his relief with his reaction to the other calling him weird. In fact a lot of things seem interesting rewatching now we know this
(I didn't know where else to mention this)
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/369/13
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Wouldn't doflamingo being from North blue and having been in the new world, have recognized Sanjis eyebrows when they had their clash. Instead of "ohh we have a strong one here"
He would have mentioned the eyebrows, and pondered atleast "you a member of Germa 66". Would doffy have had the chance to see all the strawhats new bounties after Fishman island and punk hazard
And noticed Sanjis wanted poster only alive, would only make sense to check out the crew that he was about to face…or Sanjis only live poster was after but I'm pretty sure his updated photo was from Fishman island. -
Wouldn't doflamingo being from North blue and having been in the new world, have recognized Sanjis eyebrows when they had their clash. Instead of "ohh we have a strong one here"
Dofla isn't from North Blue.
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Did Kuzan ever meet Sanji?
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Did Kuzan ever meet Sanji?
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Yes, back at Long Ring Long Land.
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He froze his leg.
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Yes, back at Long Ring Long Land.
Hmmm… So didn't he realize then that Sanji was a Vinsmoke?
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Hmmm… So didn't he realize then that Sanji was a Vinsmoke?
Why would he? Sanji wasn't with his family ever since he was a kid. And it's not like we can assume everyone knows the Vinsmokes personally nor know that they all (apparently) have curly eyebrows.
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Why would he? Sanji wasn't with his family ever since he was a kid. And it's not like we can assume everyone knows the Vinsmokes personally nor know that they all (apparently) have curly eyebrows.
I am thinking because of who he is as a admiral. Afterall it's the WG that noticed he was…..
..oh butters! I assume Papa Vinsmoke saw the new poster and rather notified the WG.Okies
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I am thinking because of who he is as a vice admiral. Afterall it's the WG that noticed he was…..
..oh butters! I assume Papa Vinsmoke saw the new poster and rather notified the WG.Okies
Kuzan WAS an admiral. Not a vice.
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Dofla isn't from North Blue.
He started his career in North Blue. Spent years there. It would be bizarre if he didn't know about Vinsmokes.
However, that doesn't mean he should have met someone from their family, nor that he should be aware that curly eyebrows were a family trait.
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I am thinking because of who he is as a vice admiral. Afterall it's the WG that noticed he was…..
..oh butters! I assume Papa Vinsmoke saw the new poster and rather notified the WG.Okies
Reiju just said this chapter exactly that. Sanji's new poster went out, Papa Vinsmoke saw it and then pulled his strings and gave Sanji's a bigger bounty and only alive status.
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Reiju just said this chapter exactly that. Sanji's new poster went out, Papa Vinsmoke saw it and then pulled his strings and gave Sanji's a bigger bounty and only alive status.
That is part that i find weird since you would think that he would have gotten a insanely high bounty because of that instead of a bounty that Sanji could have gotten without his dad increasing it lol.
It would have been funny to see Zoro's face if Sanji had gotten a larger bounty then him lol.
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Dofla isn't from North Blue.
Well when he became a pirate he had the north blue hideout pardon…
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As pirates under Big Mom did one of Jinbei's crew have to marry one of her daughters? Did Pekoms?
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He started his career in North Blue. Spent years there. It would be bizarre if he didn't know about Vinsmokes.
However, that doesn't mean he should have met someone from their family, nor that he should be aware that curly eyebrows were a family trait.
He had ties with the CD's so I'm sure at some point in doflamingos life he learned of the royal families that attend reverie and learned of the Royals in North blue and those
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So: Vinsmock a family that conquered north blue through military occupation. I wonder how long ago did that happen since Brooke left North Blue, or was his piracy due to his kingdom being taken over by the Germa 66. Also the name and the myth. When did Germa 66 come to or where does the name come from? Is Germa 66 the remnants of the army that conquered North Blue after they lost their rule?
Brooke is from West Blue, not North Blue.
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Brooke is from West Blue, not North Blue.
Has it been confirmed? Because we know the Rumbar pirates travelled the West Blue, but that doesn't mean their members came from different parts. And the kingdom Brooke used to work for hasn't been declared neither right? Anyways that detail is not what I was refering to. Regardless if he came from West or North, was the empire of the Vinsmoke active while he was with Rumbar pirates or not. I want to know how old was the Germa '66 demise and if it is tied to an Ancient Weapon or not. I doubt a buster call would be enough.
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@Tamiel:
Has it been confirmed?
Yes. Brook calls it his homeland.
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@Tamiel:
Has it been confirmed? Because we know the Rumbar pirates travelled the West Blue, but that doesn't mean their members came from different parts.
Brooke calls West Blue their homeland, so yes it's confirmed.
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@Galaxy:
Yes. Brook calls it his homeland.
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@Monkey:
Brooke calls West Blue their homeland, so yes it's confirmed.
Cool, thanks for the reminder, I changed my original post. Anyways, I wonder if Brooke has anything more to add to the conversation, for all his silence, his question was underwhelming.
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So many big things converging together… I'm wondering how Weevil is going to blend in to all this.