Pokemon Ultra S&M - Let's Minecraft Pikachu and Eevee Quest

Hiroy

Or something offensive, like boost chance of freezing but the victim gets unfrozen on switch.

That would be too annoying to deal with, especially if the RNG is always on the freezer's side and forces switches repeatedly. It would be especially annoying if the mechanics behind thawing remains to same too.

Honestly, if Gamefreak touches the freeze status… they'd have to completely change how it works. Something different that would benefit ice types without being too powerful would be nice. Like...

How about if Freeze freezes a pokemon in place, but they are allowed to break out of it immediately if they use any attack(maybe with it slightly weakened?). And if a frozen pokemon is attacked before they get a chance to break out, they'd just take extra damage(maybe with the same "defensive buff ignoring" modifiers as a critical, but maybe 5-10% damage lower if +25% bonus is too high).

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@Smiley:

At this point, with the inclusion of so many stone evolutions why only the original four can be buy able and yet you need go trough so much crap to get more of one type of the other stones.:getlost:

They are really easy to get through Poke Pelgo dungeon island

MetaMario

About to face another kahuna BUT:

! holy crap I loved all of these scenes. Lillie getting more development (and getting closer to your character), and the whole thing with Team Skull's final stand.
! All of these bozos don't stand a chance, but they want to save Guzma. Once you beat them, Plumeria gives you props, but also highlights the whole driving force of Guzma - no adult saw him for his potential, which reflects as his failure as a kid in the island challenge. So he flocks to Lusamine and her goals. Shame we couldn't see more of Plumeria, but she really is the "cool big sis" of these family of thugs.

Big_Bad_Lith

Just beat the Elite Four and saw the credits. I really enjoyed this game, the crop of new pokemon had some good 'uns, appreciated the graphical improvements and environmental design, story was actually rather decent with characters I got invested in, music was excellent, all in all one of my favorite Pokemon games. Would love to see a sequel (like BW2), hopefully on the Switch so it can have non-garbage screen resolution that will do the pokemon models justice.

RoboBlue

I could do some soft trades of legendaries for dex completion, since I have them all. :)

The GTS is so much fun to abuse.

.access timeco.

Are some pokémon more likely to "tough out" killing hits? I remember someone saying on reddit their Ribombee did it for 4 consecutive turns and mine also does it way more than any other pokémon in my team (at this very moment mine just fainted after resisting FIVE hits).

MetaMario

I am half-temped to give Wonder Trade a go. Fun fact: I wondertraded Korrina's Lucario back in Y.:ninja:

RoboBlue

@.access:

Are some pokémon more likely to "tough out" killing hits? I remember someone saying on reddit their Ribombee did it for 4 consecutive turns and mine also does it way more than any other pokémon in my team (at this very moment mine just fainted after resisting FIVE hits).

I think it depends on how many hearts you have in pokemon refresh.

Robby

@.access:

Are some pokémon more likely to "tough out" killing hits? I remember someone saying on reddit their Ribombee did it for 4 consecutive turns and mine also does it way more than any other pokémon in my team (at this very moment mine just fainted after resisting FIVE hits).

If you have them at full hearts they'll survive deadly hits, dodge them entirely, and land criticals more consistently.

Satsuki

Well . . . . . remember that whole Sylveon problem I had? Well, I hatched an Evee, then pet it up to ONE heart. I then went and fought a pokemon with Evee in my party, making it go up several levels. It learned Baby Doll Eyes in that process. I finish the battle, then, POOF! It evolves. But not into an Espeon, oh no, into a fucking SYLVEON!!! What the hell!?

Robby

@Satsuki:

Well . . . . . remember that whole Sylveon problem I had? Well, I hatched an Evee, then pet it up to ONE heart. I then went and fought a pokemon with Evee in my party, making it go up several levels. It learned Baby Doll Eyes in that process. I finish the battle, then, POOF! It evolves. But not into an Espeon, oh no, into a fucking SYLVEON!!! What the hell!?

Happiness and love are two different stats, and they have apparently severely lowered the requisites for Sylveon. Don't play with it or feed it at all. Just walk it around and give it massages and feed it those masalada things. AFTER it evolves, then play with it.

Actually, walk around like three of them at the same time. That way you can get Espeon and Umbreon out of the way at the same time.

Nobodyman

On that note, I've heard that teaching and reteaching a Pokemon TM moves increases their happiness. Anyone have any experience with this?

Noqanky

@Nobodyman:

On that note, I've heard that teaching and reteaching a Pokemon TM moves increases their happiness. Anyone have any experience with this?

I tried doing that for a while but it was ultimately still faster, in my experience, to just walk around repeatedly with the mon in my party with a soothe bell equipped.

Wagomu

@Nobodyman:

On that note, I've heard that teaching and reteaching a Pokemon TM moves increases their happiness. Anyone have any experience with this?

Yeah, like Noq said, it's not a very fast way to do it. In addition to what Noq mentioned, for low level mons, you can just do the classic turn off exp share, put pokemon in front of party, and switch out to level it, which increases happiness. Doing this at Poni Gauntlet with a level 1 mon is a very fast way to evolve the mons that need happiness. Using the hot springs island in Palego is a low effort passive way to do it, if you're gonna be spending large parts of your day out of the game, anyways. You need to check in, though, occasionally, since leaving them in too long can have an adverse effect.

Satsuki

@Nobodyman:

On that note, I've heard that teaching and reteaching a Pokemon TM moves increases their happiness. Anyone have any experience with this?

I tried doing it before but it didn't work. Maybe I wasn't doing it long enough, but it didn't work.

Now I need a Soothe Bell.

Nobodyman

@Wagomu:

Yeah, like Noq said, it's not a very fast way to do it. In addition to what Noq mentioned, for low level mons, you can just do the classic turn off exp share, put pokemon in front of party, and switch out to level it, which increases happiness.

Why would I turn off the exp share?

RoboBlue

@Satsuki:

I tried doing it before but it didn't work. Maybe I wasn't doing it long enough, but it didn't work.

Now I need a Soothe Bell.

Talk to the guy on the easternmost shore of route 3.

Wagomu

@Nobodyman:

Why would I turn off the exp share?

Unless I'm mistaken (which is possible), exp share distributes the exp you get through the party, so turning it off means that the pokemon in battle get more experience. Makes the exp gain on the pokemon you're leveling faster.

RoboBlue

@Wagomu:

In addition to what Noq mentioned, for low level mons, you can just do the classic turn off exp share, put pokemon in front of party, and switch out to level it, which increases happiness.

My Munchlax got killed so many times by Pursuit when I did that.

Wagomu

@RoboBlue:

My Munchlax got killed so many times by Pursuit when I did that.

Huh, never dealt with pursuit in Poni Gauntlet. On the upshot, with the difference in exp gain based on level, a level 1 pokemon gets over 10k exp, so when it works it works, haha.

Judal

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Satsuki

@RoboBlue:

Talk to the guy on the easternmost shore of route 3.

Got it. Now I have to hatch another Evee. Because I thought it had only got to one heart, when it had three. FML.

Seriously though, if I didn't already have a Primarina and a Ribombee I probably would have kept that Sylveon.

MetaMario

Funny story. There I was, trying to find a Persimmion in Lush Jungle, when I stumbled upon a Metapod. I didn't have it, so I tried to catch it. I threw a Great Ball, it failed, so I tried an Ultra Ball. except no

because I didn't realize that was my only Great Ball, when the inventory would automatically switch to the next type. So instead of me moving right to pick the Ultra Ball, it picked the Master Ball.

…...WELP

GetsugaZoro

@MetaMario:

Funny story. There I was, trying to find a Persimmion in Lush Jungle, when I stumbled upon a Metapod. I didn't have it, so I tried to catch it. I threw a Great Ball, it failed, so I tried an Ultra Ball. except no

because I didn't realize that was my only Great Ball, when the inventory would automatically switch to the next type. So instead of me moving right to pick the Ultra Ball, it picked the Master Ball.

…...WELP

Turn your console off and restart from the latest save.

MetaMario

@GetsugaZoro:

Turn your console off and restart from the latest save.

Nah I already saved. Not a huge deal, really, considering there's only one and…..what, 10 UBs?

flea

Why can't I save between winning the league and fighting tapu koko? I killed him accidentally and now i have to beat kukui again….

Mr0

@flea:

Why can't I save between winning the league and fighting tapu koko? I killed him accidentally and now i have to beat kukui again….

The Tapus respawn once you beat the league again, so you can repeatedly kill them and just beat the league to get em back

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flea

@Mr0:

The Tapus respawn once you beat the league again, so you can repeatedly kill them and just beat the league to get em back

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Aaahms ok haha bad luck then, I already restarted the game before fighting kukui :/

Lord Starfish

I deliberately killed Tapu Koko so that I could go into that fight actually prepared for it. Because damn it when I only get one of these things per game I sure as hell am gonna try and get one with the right nature!
…Even if I don't really use legendaries at all making it actually kind of pointless.

maxterdexter

Wait, that is if you kill them or only if you capture them? The logical answer tells me that I made a mistake.

Huschel

I don't care about natures for my legendaries but I've taken to catching them in Premier Balls, just because.

I just found a Razor Claw and I caught a Castform earlier today. Not sure yet what's next…

GetsugaZoro

@MetaMario:

Nah I already saved. Not a huge deal, really, considering there's only one and…..what, 10 UBs?

The UBs are caught with special balls, and are pretty easy to catch with them, kinda like a pokeball on a level 3 caterpie.

@flea:

Why can't I save between winning the league and fighting tapu koko? I killed him accidentally and now i have to beat kukui again….

You atually don't have to beat the league again, just go to the statue and click it, Tapu Koko will appear again, I've killed it on my sun and moon runs also.

Hiroy

If you knock out any of the Tapus after the "scripted encounter"(with Lillie after beating e4 for the first time), you have to do the league again to make any of them reappear.

Also. Caught all the Tapus and on to finishing up the Ultra Beast stuff. After hearing they were not hard to catch, I sorta regret not soft reseting on Koko in order to get a good nature in order to spend the Master Ball. Not super mad since the nature is one of the neutral ones that give no bonuses. And that should be okay enough for Battle Tree if I attempt it.

GetsugaZoro

@Hiroy:

If you knock out any of the Tapus after the "scripted encounter"(with Lillie after beating e4 for the first time), you have to do the league again to make any of them reappear.

Also. Caught all the Tapus and on to finishing up the Ultra Beast stuff. After hearing they were not hard to catch, I sorta regret not soft reseting on Koko in order to get a good nature in order to spend the Master Ball. Not super mad since the nature is one of the neutral ones that give no bonuses. And that should be okay enough for Battle Tree if I attempt it.

Well that yes, but the first time no, I killed it both times and went to capture it after I started the ending. Otherwise it's been standard since a few gens ago that if you kill a legend you can get it to reappear by beating the league.

Yeah the UBs are really easy to capture in their special balls, I caught a bunch of them at full HP.

Wagomu

The UBs were a very disappointing challenge. They show up like random encounters, the Beast Balls make catching them really easy, and if you kill them, that doesn't make a difference, since the game tells you that they just ran off somewhere, and you can fight them again easily. It's kinda sad when it's easier to fight and catch a super alien of incomprehensible power than it is to beat a giant mongoose.

.access timeco.

Since they are so easy to catch, the IVs so easy to check and I like them as a group, the UB are the first time I am reseting legendaries for nature/IV. Also, now that I can check IVs and I know my team is formed by varying degrees of "utter trash" (sorry, guys), I can't wait to take on the league with a only-UB team and feel like I have the power all the NPC seem to think I have.

Talking about them, a little rant about the plot:

! I was disappointed by how little the Ultra Beast had anything to do with in the main plot. Even though Lusamine motivation was all about them, you only meet Nihilego until the game is over, all the others are just random semi-roaming legendaries to find and catch after the game is over without much else plot involved. Even Buzzwole/Pheromosa and their clash with Tapu Koko is limited to what we saw in the trailers (we actually the whole scene months ago!) and that's it, you are not even there when it happens.
! I think it would have been much better if the whole Anabel/Looker bit took place after Lusamine went to the Beast dimension. The islands would go ape-shit with the beasts wreaking havoc and you would need to take care of them before moving on (and, after the game, you could find them again hiding in the wild and capture them).
! As things are, the quests to catch them are no different from all the "Can you catch a Rockruff and show me its dex entry?" requests you get since the game starts. Except these are even easier to finish.

Mr. Reloaded

Magearna is now available for North Americans.

http://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/magearnaqrus.png

Foolio

@Hiroy:

If you knock out any of the Tapus after the "scripted encounter"(with Lillie after beating e4 for the first time), you have to do the league again to make any of them reappear.

I never had to do this so I can't personally confirm, but I read many people saying that's false. You just have to leave the ruins and re-enter them.

Mr. Reloaded

If you care enough, Synchronize works 100% on Magearna as it's treated as an in-game gift and not a mystery one.

MetaMario

@GetsugaZoro:

The UBs are caught with special balls, and are pretty easy to catch with them, kinda like a pokeball on a level 3 caterpie.

That's…kinda disappointing (tension getting legendary is cool), but convenient all the same.
(PS. I will trade whatever for Cockroach Moon Goddess)

Crossword

Po Town was fairly interesting as a setting, though I wish there was a little more going on there story-wise than you just breaking in to retrieve a stolen mongoose. Despite him still only having two Pokemon Guzma made me sweat a little when his Golisopod used Sword Dance and I realized that a couple of my team members were weak to Bug and I didn't have anything that could deal with a Bug/Water dual-type effectively, so it became a bit of a race for me to trigger Emergency Exit so I could regroup a little versus his weaker Ariados.

Nanu's the best Kahuna. His Persian game me a surprising amount of trouble too, between wrecking my Ninetales with Power Gem, one-shotting my Starmie with the Dark Z-move, and blasting holes in things with Dark Pulse.

I just started the part where you revisit the Aether Paradise

! and not only is the battle theme for the Aether ~~Grunts~~ Employees hilariously sinister, but fighting them is pretty fun because unlike the usual villain teams who stick to predictable line-ups, I have no idea what Pokemon these guys are going to throw out next first.

Foolio

I'm trying to remember what I had the most trouble catching. The Tapus were a bit annoying, but I caught all of them by chipping their health down (not even using False Swipe) and tossing a few Dusk Balls. Same with Necrozma; caught him on my first try with only a few balls. But I dunno, I'm tempted to say that in terms of sheer balls consumed it was probably random crap here and there that just refused to stay the most. Like ~~Jojo-o~~ Jangmo-o or something.

Robby

@Mr.:

Magearna is now available for North Americans.

http://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/magearnaqrus.png

But only for players that have beaten the game, apparently.

Wagomu

If I had known that catching the UBs was so easy, and that I would be somewhat invested in post-game, then I would have spent more time resetting for natures, but alas. Currently doing that now with Magearna for Timid or Modest.

Foolio

Yeah, I probably could have done the same but overall I don't think I'll be using them much, although I heard you can kind of cheese Battle Tree with EV-trained UBs. Still I feel that with decent EVs, nature won't make a huge difference at level 50. I will say on GTS I swapped my Necrozma for a Japanese one and the one I received has Modest, so that made me happy.

MetaMario

I'm curious, I always have to look up on what each nature boosts, but a lot of you can easily go "okay Modest is shit, Jolly, that's what I want!" in five seconds. How?

And usually I can remember these minor details, lol

Foolio

Well usually I research the pokémon I'm interested in and look at the stats and then either look up a table of natures or look at recommended setups. It's not like I know them all. But by now I know a few of the basic desired ones such as Adamant and Modest (different attack focuses), Timid (speed focus), Bold, etc.

Crossword

If you look at the stat screen, the boosted stat is highlighted in red while the nerfed one is in blue.

MetaMario

@Crossword:

If you look at the stat screen, the boosted stat is highlighted in red while the nerfed one is in blue.

That I know, I'm talking about just discussing natures so easily in like a forum or something. Sometimes I think people have the chart memorized lol.

.access timeco.

@MetaMario:

I'm curious, I always have to look up on what each nature boosts, but a lot of you can easily go "okay Modest is shit, Jolly, that's what I want!" in five seconds. How?

And usually I can remember these minor details, lol

Adamant, Modest, Timid and Jolly are usually the ones you will be looking for in most cases (you sacrifice the unwanted offensive stat for the one you want or for speed), so it's easy to know them by heart.

Wagomu

Yeah, one of my Xurkitrees had a SpAtk focused nature (Mild, so not the best, but I rolled with it) and a perfect IV on it, so I trained that one up for Battle Tree rewards. It crushes anything it touches, especially with Tail Glow, unless it gets mauled by status.

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@MetaMario:

That I know, I'm talking about just discussing natures so easily in like a forum or something. Sometimes I think people have the chart memorized lol.

I just google the names of the things, haha. The rule of thumb is get a nature that increases a preferred stat while sacrificing an unused stat (usually the unused attack stat, since a pokemon with no special attacks isn't going to need any points in that stat). Sometimes you might look for a nature that reduces speed, if you're going for a trick room set, or want a slow U-turn/volt switch.