No one even noticed hakuba and robin not only noticed but neutralized him (if im not wrong). That should be proof enough that she is stronger/would beat him.
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I still find it weird how easily Baby 5 has just switched sides. Sure Lao G revealed at the end that the Doflamingo family were just using here, but they still raised her. For all intents and purposes Buffalo was her childhood friend and now she's celebrating their demise. She's a cold piece.
She needs to feel needed. Sai was willing to give her that, and that bought her loyalty. It might be "cold," but I see it more so as pathology.
The feels intensify when you realize….Kyros was a toy....compared to a human, I would wager you can't feel as well, if anything. The body itself had to be cold wood during the winter…
That scene had me immediately thinking about Full Metal Alchemist (Brotherhood), and how Al's body could feel no warmth.
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Dellinger took out the most people out of the whole family!
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Well. That chap was quite the development. Good payoff for this arc. I'm kind of glad it's over though. I miss seeing all the Strawhats together.
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Well. That chap was quite the development. Good payoff for this arc. I'm kind of glad it's over though. I miss seeing all the Strawhats together.
So do I! I just hope once they are all together, it can start to feel more like the One Piece I loved in Part 1. I miss those days. Dressrosa was a nice step in the right direction for me, and at points it got close… but still didn't quite do it for me. The arc was a blast of fun at times, I'll give it that though.
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I'll concede on brook. But Robin being able to hold Hakuba doesn't mean she could clutch him or defeat him. You're overestimating her physical strength or underestimating his. He beat all of D Block and took down Dellinger, who was taking down people left and right. Robin briefly restraining Hakuba doesn't necessarily mean she can restrain him for an extended period of time. We also don't know how much effort Hakuba put into escaping. Almost immediately after Hakuba was restrained, Cavendish was fighting back mentally against Hakuba.
Hakuba's life was in Robin's hands. She had the full advantage on that encounter, unless Hakuba has the ability to fly or glide.
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The page where they mention the 500 million bounty, the pirates are referring to Usopp. They are the same pirates dealing in arms with Doflamingo. They were upset that Usopp beat Sugar and caused so much chaos. It's not Luffy's new bounty.
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The page where they mention the 500 million bounty, the pirates are referring to Usopp. They are the same pirates dealing in arms with Doflamingo. They were upset that Usopp beat Sugar and caused so much chaos. It's not Luffy's new bounty.
Aohige's summary translation from Raw:
A fleet of ships came attacking the pirates, demanding Luffy's 500 million bounty head.
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The page where they mention the 500 million bounty, the pirates are referring to Usopp. They are the same pirates dealing in arms with Doflamingo. They were upset that Usopp beat Sugar and caused so much chaos. It's not Luffy's new bounty.
Doflamingo's bounty on Usopp and the rest was exclusively from him, meaning that it would immediately be voided if Doflamingo lost power. Additionally, Doflamingo's broadcast of the bounties was exclusively inside Dressrosa and no one outside would no about it.
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The page where they mention the 500 million bounty, the pirates are referring to Usopp. They are the same pirates dealing in arms with Doflamingo. They were upset that Usopp beat Sugar and caused so much chaos. It's not Luffy's new bounty.
The people in this chapter are likely the ones from 793, who weren't on Dressrosa at the time of the Star game.
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My mistake then. It is a weird translation after all.
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What is the Romanization of "BIG BOSS" on page 13? Is it OyaBun or Okashira? Thanks. -
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What is the Romanization of "BIG BOSS" on page 13? Is it OyaBun or Okashira? Thanks.okashira
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Is there another way to translate the part with the 500M bounty. Because the phrasing may lead people to think they are talking about Luffy plus someone else.
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Is there another way to translate the part with the 500M bounty. Because the phrasing may lead people to think they are talking about Luffy plus someone else.
I'm not sure how "You and your 500 Million Bounty are there, Straw Hat Luffy…" could even remotely suggest it's talking about a second person.
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Robin basically made Hakuba tap out, that's as close to defeating an ally without hurting them as you could get. Just think of how Robin held Tashigi's sword to her neck? That's what Robin could have easily done with Hakuba but simply holding him down was enough for her. Hakuba was built up quite a bit with a cool back story told by a Vice Admiral, a nice high bounty, a great performance in the tournament, then he defeated Dellinger in an instant, the officer who was knocking out guys left and right! To top it of Barto assumed Robin wouldn't be able to handle Hakuba as she appeared unaware of his presence and in a single moment she put a stop to his super speed blitzing antics.
Fighting Robin's corner because you think she'll end up with Jinbei? I'd love to see how you write about her when she ends up with Franky, probably dismiss her as trash :ninja:
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Is there another way to translate the part with the 500M bounty. Because the phrasing may lead people to think they are talking about Luffy plus someone else.
Yeah I've thinking about that for a while, is it really just 500B or is it kinda ambiguous like said thats a 500B guy, meaning its 500B something, they have mentioned a 100 something bounty X person and its like 110B, hopefully we get new posters to be sure about it if its not that explicit.
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I'm not sure how "You and your 500 Million Bounty are there, Straw Hat Luffy…" could even remotely suggest it's talking about a second person.
It seems to tak of Luffy and someone with 500M bounty. I can get past it but people can legitimately get confused by it.
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Yeah I've thinking about that for a while, is it really just 500B or is it kinda ambiguous like said thats a 500B guy, meaning its 500B something, they have mentioned a 100 something bounty X person and its like 110B, hopefully we get new posters to be sure about it if its not that explicit.
The Japanese script for your perusal:
5億の首!!!麦わらのルフィがいるなら
首をさし出せ!!!
Romaji:
go oku no kubi!! mugiwara no Luffy ga irunara
kubi o sashidase!!!
literal translation:
500 M head!!! If Straw Hat Luffy is there
show [your] head!!!
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It seems to tak of Luffy and someone with 500M bounty. I can get past it but people can legitimately get confused by it.
You're misinterpreting the grammar presented in the sentence.
"You and your" refers to one person and that same person's possessions.
In this case, the "you" is referring to Luffy and the "your" is giving possession of the 500 M bounty to Luffy.
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A quick rephrase: "Straw Hat Luffy, if you and your 500 million bounty are there…"
Same sentence, just moved the subject to the front.
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Also Brook being afraid of things is completely in character. Be it ghosts, sea kings, roller coasters, etc, he was always somewhat of a frady cat just not on the level of Chopper, Nami and Usopp. I give him a pass for being afraid of Big Mom's crew.
I have to disagree there …. After timeskip, Brooks's worse than Usopp.
Chopper has been seen freaking out beside Brook more often than with Usopp. And no it's not just because the crew is separated. Several times during their travel from SA to FI, then on FI, Usopp is cool while Brook is freaking out. It was the threat of going against yonkou -Big Mom- and shichibukai - Doffy- that brought Usopp back to pre-timeskip scardy cat level. But Brook wasn't on a different level as he also freaking out, -
I have to disagree there …. After timeskip, Brooks's worse than Usopp.
Chopper has been seen freaking out beside Brook more often than with Usopp. And no it's not just because the crew is separated. Several times during their travel from SA to FI, then on FI, Usopp is cool while Brook is freaking out. It was the threat of going against yonkou -Big Mom- and shichibukai - Doffy- that brought Usopp back to pre-timeskip scardy cat level. But Brook wasn't on a different level as he also freaking out,Usopp has gotta become brave sometime (he is brave when it really matters); all Brook has to do is meet a whale :p
But yeah good point. I'm not sure when Brook became this degree of a scaredy cat, but that is the side of him we see lately.
By the way: His bard stuff is awesome, and I want more of it. Signed, a long time dnd player.
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Fujitora is so fucked right now. But we all know nothing will happen to him.
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Usopp has gotta become brave sometime (he is brave when it really matters); all Brook has to do is meet a whale :p
But yeah good point. I'm not sure when Brook became this degree of a scaredy cat, but that is the side of him we see lately.
By the way: His bard stuff is awesome, and I want more of it. Signed, a long time dnd player.
I think Brook being scared is just mostly for the joke of a spooky skeleton being scared by anything.
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Fujitora is so fucked right now. But we all know nothing will happen to him.
Yes, I wonder how will Akainu forgive him. Maybe he would bring the head of another important pirate instead.
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Yes, I wonder how will Akainu forgive him. Maybe he would bring the head of another important pirate instead.
i think he will continue to avoid akainu and still travel pretending to search for law and luffy until he will show up surprisingly at the reverie to strike the shichibukai system
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I knew someone would ask about that lol. Yes. Brook actually beat Jora. Who did Robin defeat? Hell, whom did she even fight? No one. She protected Rebecca and that's all I recall seeing combat-wise. Outside of combat? I can't remember honestly. Robin just didn't stand out enough this arc to be memorable for me.
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Well said!
She stopped Hakuba on his tracks actually with next to no effort. She could have actually just clutch him but she didn't as she kind of understood Cavendish inner issues. Now Hakuba one shotted Dellinger, who by extension was one of the most effective executives battlewise (Ideo, Suleiman,Dagama, bluegilli). She also protected Rebecca from Diamante, and had she been less human she would have clutched sugar to deal with her (though) did not happen for plot reason. However if we go by facts she stopping Hakuba effortlessly should put her in a pretty high position. I have to say that her DF really puts ODA in a tight position as we as readers will always ask why didnt she do this or that, but given her character development I can somewhat understand
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Usopp has gotta become brave sometime (he is brave when it really matters); all Brook has to do is meet a whale :p
But yeah good point. I'm not sure when Brook became this degree of a scaredy cat, but that is the side of him we see lately.
By the way: His bard stuff is awesome, and I want more of it. Signed, a long time dnd player.
"All Brook has to do is meet with a whale" you say. When you put it like this is like hey lets travel to Sea world to see a whale.
You do understand though that the "whale" in question is Brooks only "former Nakama" around that is still alive and who is still waiting for them not knowing (but somehow understanding) they might not be alive? in terms of keeping a promise to a comrade Brooks fealty and loyalty to Laboon will be by far one of the most admirable feats when it gets fulfilled -
i think he will continue to avoid akainu and still travel pretending to search for law and luffy until he will show up surprisingly at the reverie to strike the shichibukai system
Most of the times it's not the way politics work. He has to gather people that think alike to be able to press the issue.
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Are the Marines even a credible threat to the Straw-Hats at this point? Time and time again they seem to willingly let the Straw-Hats slip past and allow them to get away because of their honour or that they feel they're indebted to Luffy somehow. Smoker's done it (twice now), Garp did it, and now even Fujitora. At this rate it would take Akainu himself to roll up his sleeves and go after them.
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"All Brook has to do is meet with a whale" you say. When you put it like this is like hey lets travel to Sea world to see a whale.
You do understand though that the "whale" in question is Brooks only "former Nakama" around that is still alive and who is still waiting for them not knowing (but somehow understanding) they might not be alive? in terms of keeping a promise to a comrade Brooks fealty and loyalty to Laboon will be by far one of the most admirable feats when it gets fulfilledI'm not demeaning the task. But, it permits Brook to be scared - that's fine. Being a scaredy cat and being a brave man of the sea, however, are somewhat contradictory, at least enough that Usopp either has to overcome fear, or it has to be played as irony (which it is - he is brave when it matters, but overly scared otherwise, whoch is interesting). Brook on the other hand has the liberty to he afraid and still meet his goal. That's what I'm saying.
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I'm not demeaning the task. But, it permits Brook to be scared - that's fine. Being a scaredy cat and being a brave man of the sea, however, are somewhat contradictory, at least enough that Usopp either has to overcome fear, or it has to be played as irony (which it is - he is brave when it matters, but overly scared otherwise, whoch is interesting). Brook on the other hand has the liberty to he afraid and still meet his goal. That's what I'm saying.
I understood you, and its true.
Brooks dream "to reunite with Laboon", meaning its simply a goal to meet up with a certain whale.
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Are the Marines even a credible threat to the Straw-Hats at this point? Time and time again they seem to willingly let the Straw-Hats slip past and allow them to get away because of their honour or that they feel they're indebted to Luffy somehow. Smoker's done it (twice now), Garp did it, and now even Fujitora. At this rate it would take Akainu himself to roll up his sleeves and go after them.
The marines are a threat to the shs. If it weren't for plot reasons they would have been terminated long ago. On dressrosa fujitora alone could have taken out luffy and all his allies. In terms of power luffy isn't as strong as an admiral yet.
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Most of the times it's not the way politics work. He has to gather people that think alike to be able to press the issue.
that'0s why he made the incident at dressrosa happen and been discovered..it's enough to press the issue since every single one of those kings might fear that what happened to dressrosa will happen to them in the future if the system rest in place.
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The whole Brook thing is a joke, her is a freaking skeleton and he is supposed to be scary but the dude is scared all the time but unlike Usopp or Chopper, he usually regains composure much faster and does something about it, so like I said I see it as a joke(not a joke from Brook, I mean from Oda).
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The marines are a threat to the shs. If it weren't for plot reasons they would have been terminated long ago. On dressrosa fujitora alone could have taken out luffy and all his allies. In terms of power luffy isn't as strong as an admiral yet.
with his rubble? If it were a serious fight Luffy, law and zoro could have beaten him.
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with his rubble? If it were a serious fight Luffy, law and zoro could have beaten him.
No, they are not there yet, or else Luffy would not need rescue only after 1 minute of battle or so. Fujitora's attack just blasted luffy away like nothing, and he was holding Dressrosa above them all that time too.
Admirals are still top of the world material, no beating them yet.
Law and luffy just defeated Doflamingo and luffy was done after the fight, law was almost dead, well most would die after what he got.
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Sabo was in the same level with Isshou. Are we implying Luffy is under that level yet?
Remember Doflamingo was nerfed through the battle, but he perfectly can be a match for an admiral. Getting serious, even beat one of them.
I'm with Clubber, Luffy with help, can beat an admiral.
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We're not talking about pre time skip SH's and allies here, where all of them can easily be defeated by one admiral.
Two years ago, Luffy would have retreated against an admiral, now Zoro even wants to tag in.
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We're not talking about pre time skip SH's and allies here, where all of them can easily be defeated by one admiral.
Two years ago, Luffy would have retreated against an admiral, now Zoro even wants to tag in.
Luffy, Zoro and Law would be too much for Fujitora to handle, adding the new 7 allied captains, would be overkill.That's the thing, Luffy likes to fight alone. Zoro would stay out of it on that basis. Law would retreat. 7 strawmmanders are fodder to an admiral. But even if they grew balls and decided to take on Fuji, that sky rubble he built would eliminate all the ships, leave the fleet finished and buried. Everyone would be stranded on the island, Sengoku, Tsuru, Fuji and all the marines and the incoming cp0 would most certainly make it the end of the line for Luffy and co.
Your post reminds me of someone who's never been in a fight and they say "in a fight I will do this to the person, and use so and so fancy move" but in reality they'd get their asses handed to them because the other person most probably isn't going to be standing there doing nothing in return. Maybe if Fujitora was a lifeless ragdoll?
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That's the thing, Luffy likes to fight alone. Zoro would stay out of it on that basis. Law would retreat. 7 strawmmanders are fodder to an admiral. But even if they grew balls and decided to take on Fuji, that sky rubble he built would eliminate all the ships, leave the fleet finished and buried. Everyone would be stranded on the island, Sengoku, Tsuru, Fuji and all the marines and the incoming cp0 would most certainly make it the end of the line for Luffy and co.
The topic was about Luffy and his allies against Fujitora.
And Luffy doesn't mind teaming up against someone powerful, just like against a pacifista and Oars, before the timeskip.Your post reminds me of someone who's never been in a fight and they say "in a fight I will do this to the person, and use so and so fancy move" but in reality they'd get their asses handed to them because the other person most probably isn't going to be standing there doing nothing in return
Don't confuse me with yourself.
Maybe if Fujitora was a lifeless ragdoll?
We all know that both opposing sides will be moving around, if a fight happens.
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It took Luffy and Law to beat Doflamingo. Now all of a sudden Luffy can beat Fujitora?
Luffy, Law and Zoro would be quite tough for Fuji.
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omg your right usopp is the best i just cant stop fantasing about his long hard nose inside of me ' oh god usopp!!'
What the hell???
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@Shobu:
Sabo was in the same level with Isshou. Are we implying Luffy is under that level yet?
Remember Doflamingo was nerfed through the battle, but he perfectly can be a match for an admiral. Getting serious, even beat one of them.
I'm with Clubber, Luffy with help, can beat an admiral.
Sure, his best help would be Trebol on admiral's side. :ninja:
It was kinda easier for Sabo since gravity affects him little in his fiery form. That sideways gravity would have blasted him as good as anyone else if it weren't for that. The ability is just that fucked up.
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that'0s why he made the incident at dressrosa happen and been discovered..it's enough to press the issue since every single one of those kings might fear that what happened to dressrosa will happen to them in the future if the system rest in place.
his "allies" that will think alike will be those exact kings,but he has to make a speech at the reverie,where they all all gatheredHe did well in not acting against doffy and it will help him at reverie but what about him not finishing all the SH alliance with so many wittnesses. And i don't mean the meaningless dressrosians but also many high ranked marines. Sengoku will probably ignore that. Tsuru… i'm not sure since she openly questioned him about not arresting luffy and co. Now Bastille on the other hand is pissed... I'm not sure it's helping him.
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with his rubble? If it were a serious fight Luffy, law and zoro could have beaten him.
The rubble would have ended the alliance and.probably also ended a lot of DF users. Even high caliber ones. In the chaos of he whole fleet sinking it would have been hard for the non df users to save everyone. Besides the rubble would have hit not only the ships but also the persons on it.
Not sure where you got that law luffy and zoro would beat issho. If they would have ganged against issho I'm sure sengoku would step in and that would have been a completely different fight. Not to mention that the fight will continue long enough for the whole marines to come back as reinforcement. Tsuru bastille etc and the whole marine fleet against the yonta fleet. It would have been the end of the alliance and they would definitely loose their chance to escape unharmed. -
Are people really saying that the rubble would have sinked those ships? For gods sake, Law alone can handle the rubles!
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He did well in not acting against doffy and it will help him at reverie but what about him not finishing all the SH alliance with so many wittnesses. And i don't mean the meaningless dressrosians but also many high ranked marines. Sengoku will probably ignore that. Tsuru… i'm not sure since she openly questioned him about not arresting luffy and co. Now Bastille on the other hand is pissed... I'm not sure it's helping
Civil war dude, civil war… We got those panels with Smoker and Tashigi, we have Sengoku and Tsuru of all people on Dressrosa and we have CP0 on the way and everything points out to them retrieving Dofla and this being the catalyst for the Civil War.
Been waiting for this for so god damn long!
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@Shobu:
Sabo was in the same level with Isshou. Are we implying Luffy is under that level yet? Remember Doflamingo was nerfed through the battle, but he perfectly can be a match for an admiral. Getting serious, even beat one of them. I'm with Clubber, Luffy with help, can beat an admiral.
do you honestly believe Isshou was trying his best against Sabo? i think he didn't really intend to win that fight.
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Sabo was in the same level with Isshou.
…was he?
The had a short exchange that seemed to turn in Isshou's favour when he got remotely serious and pulled out the sideways gravity.
Also, Oda has loved showing off Sabo's strength since his return, so I can't imagine he would have ommitted him clashing equally with an admiral fighting seriously if Sabo was up to the task.
I imagine Sabo to be similar to a yonko commander in this respect, he can hold his own against an admiral, but when push comes to shove, the admiral is always going to win.
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Are people really saying that the rubble would have sinked those ships? For gods sake, Law alone can handle the rubles!
There was way too much of that crap hanging around for Law to manage to chop up or redirect all of it. His devil fruit is hax, but he's not omnipotent.
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There was way too much of that crap hanging around for Law to manage to chop up or redirect all of it. His devil fruit is hax, but he's not omnipotent.
He's not omnipotent but he could have suspended that rubles in the air just like issho and would have moved along with the rubble…
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He's not omnipotent but he could have suspended that rubles in the air just like issho and would have moved along with the rubble…
Not necessarily.
We've seen Issho's gravity affect a vast expanse, with seemingly no limit y-co-ordinate wise.
Law's room, on the other hand, has a pretty finite amount of space in which to control things.
We also don't know how it would affect Law's concentration/ ability to maintain the rubble in that state while more rubble continued to rain down.
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Not necessarily.
We've seen Issho's gravity affect a vast expanse, with seemingly no limit y-co-ordinate wise.
Law's room, on the other hand, has a pretty finite amount of space in which to control things.
We also don't know how it would affect Law's concentration/ ability to maintain the rubble in that state while more rubble continued to rain down.
To my understanding everything will come down to "stamina" while concentration might be a factor in a one vs one battle it will certainly not be in a one vs many battle. I personally don't see the rubble sinking those ships and to be more clear affecting the main ships.
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