DD will probably get his ass kicked soon, so after this Luffy will be elevated to a pretty high status besides just being related to badasses. I wonder what the world will do, pirates and WG.
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If studies can learn me that killing the refugees of Ohara was right, I prefer to stay an idiot. Suck
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What is Oden saying to WB?
Become my son Whitebeard.
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Akainu's moral code is equal to that of a robot when you think about it.
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So, why did you count the number of set-up chapters relative to the length of the arc. Isn't an argument against the pace of the arc?
Hmm… perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
Pace has everything to do with number of chapters, but the number of chapters on finished arc is irrelevant to the discusion. This arc can be two hundred chapters long, it can end next week, and those fragments would still be considered by me to be poorly paced.
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Akainu's moral code is equal to that of a robot when you think about it.
Or your average american president. Take your pick.
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Hmm… perhaps I wasn't clear enough.
Pace has everything to do with number of chapters, but the number of chapters on finished arc is irrelevant to the discusion. This arc can be two hundred chapters long, it can end next week, and those fragments would still be considered by me to be poorly paced.
Well, I'll give you your subjective opinion and leave it at that. lol
Or your average american president. Take your pick.
LOL
What is Oden saying to WB?
Become my son Whitebeard.
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And what about the supernovas? They are just gonna take a backseat? Luffy didn't reach Yonkou status by training for two years. He isn't done growing yet. He will be able to solo a Yonkou when he goes up against BB at the end of the series.
I think Luffy will battle with the other Supernovas. Roger conquered Grand Line without any known allies, constantly battling against likes of Shiki, WB, Garp, Sengoku, etc. Luffy should be able to do the same.
"He stumbled on the last step, but he got up at once. 'He even took care to brush off the dirt that was stuck to his guts,' my Aunt Wene told me. Then he went into his house through the back door that had been open since six and fell on his face in the kitchen."
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I think Luffy will battle with the other Supernovas. Roger conquered Grand Line without any known allies, constantly battling against likes of Shiki, WB, Garp, Sengoku, etc. Luffy should be able to do the same.
I think that's where Roger failed the most. It seems he ended up making more enemies than allies.
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The ransom was not meant to scare away Doula Mongo from the Straw Hats. It was done to make him leave Dressrosa so that the factory could be taken out.
Yes, make him leave Dressrosa and go to Green Bit, because he's scared of not having Caesar. But prevent him from pursuing them in the fear that Law might kill Caesar, which would lead to Doflamingo's plans still falling apart. The point was "meet me at this location at 3, and don't try any sooner or I'm killing Caesar". Law could easily still set up that exchange for that time
So the relationship between the Dwarves, the Riku Royal Family and the Donquixote Family is never explored.
Remember that the Dwarves went to live in Dressrosa, but became slaves by the Donquixotes. Then they were freed by the Riku Royal Family, who gave them Green Bit as a gift. That backstory wouldn't make sense if Green Bit wasn't connected to Dressrosa.
This could easily be stated as the Donquixote family took over another local island nearby and then the Riku family freed the Dwarves, either way the point is this backstory could still completely make sense. It would even give us hype for the Riku family before we meet them, and we'd be shocked to find them serving as forced crew members and gladiators..
And how do you know that Mansherry's ability is unnecessary?
Also, you can't just make up a role for the Heart Pirates without knowing about what they're doing at Zou.
Because as the author, we can decide the ability is unnecessary. Or maybe as the author, we decide she does still have it but we're given it sooner.
You're looking at this as if every little thing Oda has currently decided must still exist in a "rewrite", but it doesn't have to. Oda could have written it to where Mansherry didn't have an ability, or to where we find out about it sooner and she joins the Strawhats to go to Dressrosa.
I like Dressrosa, believe me I really do. But I'd be wrong if I said that the subplots couldn't have been resolved better in smaller separate arcs, because they could have. Smaller arcs allows for quicker pacing, less jumps, and more believable hype for the end boss of the "saga".
And the Heart Pirates don't necessarily have to be doing anything on Zou if we rewrite the arc with pacing and such in mind, however, if what they're doing on Zou is truly critical than I'm sure we could come up with a strong motivator for the Strawhats to go to Dressrosa in disguise and still get lulled into the coliseum and Violet etc, heck Kanjurou was enough reason alone to go to Dressrosa.
Wait, why are the Marines in Dressrosa? For that to happen, Law would need to know that his crew would be in Dressrosa in the first place as Smoker was the one who let the information that the alliance was going to Green Bit/Dressrosa.
The same reason they were there in the first place, Doflamingo faking abdicating his throne because Law forces him to. Remember in our "rewrite" the ransom is still happening, it's just taking a little longer.
You should just wait for all the plot points to be solved.
Once more, I'm not complaining so much about the plot points themselves as I am about the pacing. The pacing could be solved by separating the plot points to smaller arcs, I'm still excited to see Doflamingo get his ass kicked, I'm still excited for Law to have a backstory, I'm even curious if Mansherry's ability is that useful(Or if it's something Oda decided to add in just cause he could to make her look cool for the sake of looking cool) but it's been a long and slightly dull road to get there compared to other "sagas" and the way they're built. (It started off really well, but now it's petering out, Dressrosa is getting old. We wouldn't have this issue if we'd been given the smaller arc setup.)
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I like Dressrosa, believe me I really do. But I'd be wrong if I said that the subplots couldn't have been resolved better in smaller separate arcs, because they could have. Smaller arcs allows for quicker pacing, less jumps, and more believable hype for the end boss of the "saga".
The thing is that we can't claim that, because the arc isn't over yet.
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The thing is that we can't claim that, because the arc isn't over yet.
It would require an ability of Mansherry's to be tied to the core of Dressrosa itself for me to agree that the dwarf/SMILE factory subplots couldn't have been done in a separate arc, but like you said, we'll have to wait and see.
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Dressrosa's length and pacing would not be an issue if the content was good, this arc shares the same issues as Punk Hazard, which make it painful to read.
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I think that's where Roger failed the most. It seems he ended up making more enemies than allies.
Even so, all of Supernovas are after title of Pirate King as well. Let's also not forget that they are pirates. Even if Luffy does form alliances with pirates (such as current alliance with Law), they will definitely fall apart at one point. I think most pirates understand that. Only pirate with longstanding alliances was WB and he wasn't after One Piece anyway. My thoughts on the subject.
"He stumbled on the last step, but he got up at once. 'He even took care to brush off the dirt that was stuck to his guts,' my Aunt Wene told me. Then he went into his house through the back door that had been open since six and fell on his face in the kitchen."
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I think that's where Roger failed the most. It seems he ended up making more enemies than allies.
That was kind of the point. Roger saw a need for revolution, but knew that he didn't possess the charisma or organization necessary to create a rebel army. Rayleigh even said exactly that when the Strawhats met with him at his house on Sabaody Archipelago. They had found knowledge of corruption and lies in a long-standing system, but didn't have the resources to do anything about it on their own. So, instead, Roger and his crew amassed a fortune (or the legend of one), hid it somewhere, and convinced the adventure-seekers of the world to take up arms and look for it. By inspiring piracy, they set the pace for a new age. In contrast, when we look at Monkey D. Dragon's attempt at a more direct approach, we find that the rebel army has only created conflict, death, and strife across the world. In the end, the rebel army has been successful, but it has also cost countless lives over the years and destroyed cities. Dragon took advantage of what Roger started, and created something far more direct. So far, though, despite their success, the cost has been far greater than what Roger (or anyone else in that position) would have wanted. Garp even knew this, and that's why he went to lengths to keep Luffy ignorant of his father's actions (removing him from his parents, taking him to a remote jungle hideout at age 10, etc.).
tl;dr Roger made enemies on purpose, but the right kind of enemies. Otherwise, he would have just been considered another terrorist by the One Piece World, like Dragon.
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Even so, all of Supernovas are after title of Pirate King as well. Let's also not forget that they are pirates. Even if Luffy does form alliances with pirates (such as current alliance with Law), they will definitely fall apart at one point. I think most pirates understand that. Only pirate with longstanding alliances was WB and he wasn't after One Piece anyway. My thoughts on the subject.
Luffy can form long-lasting alliances with other pirates that aren't the 11 Supernovas. Bartolomeo and Chinjao would never betray Luffy, for example.
Also, the point of the story is not for Luffy to repeat Roger, but rather surpass him. Roger might have conquered the Grand Line, but he didn't have what it took to truly change the world.
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Luffy can form long-lasting alliances with other pirates that aren't the 11 Supernovas. Bartolomeo and Chinjao would never betray Luffy, for example.
Also, the point of the story is not for Luffy to repeat Roger, but rather surpass him. Roger might have conquered the Grand Line, but he didn't have what it took to truly change the world.
But but but
Rivals eventually joining heroes is a sacred Jump tradition.
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Speaking of which, I've had this sinking feeling ever since we were first introduced to Big Mom, but I think ultimately Big Mom is going to end up an "ally" of Luffy at the end of the series too.
The series went out of its way to point out Big Mom isn't a "nice" person, but the series also seems to go out of the way to point out her deals are "business-like", and not vindictive or evil like a villain. Even her most "sinister" act, attacking any island that doesn't hold up their part of the deal if sweets can't be provided, is something Luffy undercuts after his conversation with her in the next chapter saying he would completely understand her actions if the deal involved meat instead of sweets.
Yes, between Jinbe and the Fishman Pirates leaving her in large part due to Luffy wanting Jinbe to join his crew, Luffy taking blame of Fishman Island's inability to provide sweets, and the bomb that's been foreshadowed and bound to go off in Big Mom's possession after receiving it from the Straw Hats, there's bound to be a conflict between the two factions. But ultimately I see the relationship at worst ending up being like Smoker's relationship to Luffy, antagonistic but never fully evil, well at least after the arc where she ends up being the 'villain', and at best someone that fights in one scenario and then becomes the "best of buddies" with another scenario because it's in her best interests.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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Speaking of which, I've had this sinking feeling ever since we were first introduced to Big Mom, but I think ultimately Big Mom is going to end up an "ally" of Luffy at the end of the series too.
The series went out of its way to point out Big Mom isn't a "nice" person, but the series also seems to go out of the way to point out her deals are "business-like", and not vindictive or evil like a villain. Even her most "sinister" act, attacking any island that doesn't hold up their part of the deal if sweets can't be provided, is something Luffy undercuts after his conversation with her in the next chapter saying he would completely understand her actions if the deal involved meat instead of sweets.
Yes, between Jinbe and the Fishman Pirates leaving her in large part due to Luffy wanting Jinbe to join his crew, Luffy taking blame of Fishman Island's inability to provide sweets, and the bomb that's been foreshadowed and bound to go off in Big Mom's possession after receiving it from the Straw Hats, there's bound to be a conflict between the two factions. But ultimately I see the relationship at worst ending up being like Smoker's relationship to Luffy, antagonistic but never fully evil, well at least after the arc where she ends up being the 'villain', and at best someone that fights in one scenario and then becomes the "best of buddies" with another scenario because it's in her best interests.
C'mon now! She has destroyed countries over sweets and ate her own crewmembers! She's not gonna be an ally.
And I know that Crocodile did the same thing. He helped Luffy in Impel Down but it was more out of necessity of circumstance than anything. And it was a long time after Alabasta. So even if Big Mom ended up allying Luffy, I'd sincerely doubt it would be before she has been properly beaten in her own arc.
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C'mon now! She has destroyed countries over sweets and ate her own crewmembers! She's not gonna be an ally.
And I know that Crocodile did the same thing. He helped Luffy in Impel Down but it was more out of necessity of circumstance than anything. And it was a long time after Alabasta. So even if Big Mom ended up allying Luffy, I'd sincerely doubt it would be before she has been properly beaten in her own arc.
I'd say less necessity, and more his personal vengeance and amusement.
The fact that Luffy's been willing to take his help when the situation required it, makes it convincing precedense.
Mind you, this is not something I want to happen, but rather acknowledgement of the possibility.
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I'd say less necessity, and more his personal vengeance and amusement.
I was talking about Luffy. He needed all the help to save Ace.
The fact that Luffy's been willing to take his help when the situation required it, makes it convincing precedense.
Mind you, this is not something I want to happen, but rather acknowledgement of the possibility.
I also acknowledged that she might ally Luffy, but only long after she's had her own arc as a villain. It would just be bad taste to immediately recruit someone who has destroyed countries for such petty reasons.
Tough an Yonkou might be too strong of an ally anyway. Besides, hasn't one of the most recurring themes here been change of eras and older generation making room for the new one? From that point of view it might make more sense that she just gets taken down. That's it.
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C'mon now! She has destroyed countries over sweets and ate her own crewmembers! She's not gonna be an ally.
And I know that Crocodile did the same thing. He helped Luffy in Impel Down but it was more out of necessity of circumstance than anything. And it was a long time after Alabasta. So even if Big Mom ended up allying Luffy, I'd sincerely doubt it would be before she has been properly beaten in her own arc.
For the first point, this was Luffy's response to the situation that I brought up in my post. The second seemed admittedly more evil, but the context of that scene was deliberately vague and could have a more milder explanation like the people were made out of candy. It's very likely that it's only a matter of time before we see her do more standard villainous things like we see Doflamingo do in this arc, but we've seen good people perform bad acts, even if the series does have a clearer black and white worldview than would be expected since the "heroes" are "criminals/pirates". Bartolomeo cut off a person's tongue this arc just for bad mouthing Luffy for example.
I did point out that there's been too much built up to not see big mom play the "villain" role, and did say it would occur near the end of the series, though there's a part of me that does think it would be interesting to maybe just subvert the expectation and build up and then have the arc with her proper introduction go a different direction. I just bring this up because I wanted to also voice that even if she does become a "villain", I hope her storyline subverts the standard "Strawhats become heroes by defeating the villain" plot when facing Big Mom and their feud is solely based primarily on a petty personal vendetta and misunderstanding that paint the Straw Hats in a bad light by having their selfishness not be beneficial to Big Mom. I mean, there's gotta be some pathos so some people/group are going to benefit if the Straw Hats face Big Mom in a battle, but a feud based on selfishness and personal squabbles only would be nice (though in many respects, this is how most storylines play out with the crew. Thriller Bark was about the crew saving their own and Brook's shadows but they end up saving everyone's shadows. Skypiea was about gold hunting but Luffy stops the feud between two countries. etc. etc.)
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Basically I'm hoping Big Mom's fight is about pirates facing pirates over petty squabbles, and minimize the notion that Big Mom needs to be taken down because she's doing some evil deed that needs and will be stopped once the Straw Hats take her down.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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I remember a lot of people being convinced Caribou was going to become a crewmember. Even after he was shown burying people alive and shit. Not to mention all the other crap.
And then Oda shows his soft side with that granny on Kaido's island.
(Wold still pick him over Rebecca, lol.)
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For the first point, this was Luffy's response to the situation that I brought up in my post.
It was probably just a gag. I don't think Luffy would seriously destroy a country over meat.
The second seemed admittedly more evil, but the context of that scene was deliberately vague and could have a more milder explanation like the people were made out of candy.
Yeah I've heard this theory of Big Mom having DF that brings inanimate objects to life (and admittedly I love it!), but artificial life is still life. She still ate her loyal henchmen.
It's very likely that it's only a matter of time before we see her do more standard villainous things like we see Doflamingo do in this arc, but we've seen good people perform bad acts, even if the series does have a clearer black and white worldview than would be expected since the "heroes" are "criminals/pirates". Bartolomeo cut off a person's tongue this arc just for bad mouthing Luffy for example.
I know Luffy has had plenty of morally ambiguous allies and friends, but very few of them have actually been genocidal. Crocodile is the only one who was directly responsible of the deaths of thousands of innocents, and even then like I said he was a necessary evil at the moment. And I admit that Big Mom might end up an ally later on, but it's too soon to really suggest anything like that. Right now she's just a huge bitch to be taken down!
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Violet has been useful this arc. It's gonna be a shame they'll have to leave her behind. I'm sure she won't join… too similar to Robin other than power (and Robin can even put her eyes in places anyway)
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I remember a lot of people being convinced Caribou was going to become a crewmember. Even after he was shown burying people alive and shit. Not to mention all the other crap.
And then Oda shows his soft side with that granny on Kaido's island.
(Wold still pick him over Rebecca, lol.)
hahahahhaah, another reason to praise the lord for not being here in those dark days.
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I remember a lot of people being convinced Caribou was going to become a crewmember. Even after he was shown burying people alive and shit. Not to mention all the other crap.
And then Oda shows his soft side with that granny on Kaido's island.
(Wold still pick him over Rebecca, lol.)
The more I think about it, the more Riku's just seem to be geneticaly inclined towards being stupid, blantantly hypocritical characters.
Rebbeca is probably the best one of them, must be Kyros influence…
The trio of Riku's, Fujitora and Doflamingo, along with their conflicting ideologies and philosophies seems to be something I should be extremly weary of. I don't know, I have terrible feelings about that one.
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I think Viola is the best Riku. Can't wait to see her stabbing Sanguro…passionately.
The only thing I really dislike about Rebecca is this.That is representative of entire Riku philosophy though. And their fighting style.
Viola… Viola pisses me off a lot, and her powers are too bloody convenient. Not to mention her heel-face turn is... not the best one in the series, to put it mildly.
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That is representative of entire Riku philosophy though. And their fighting style.
Viola… Viola pisses me off a lot, and her powers are too bloody convenient. Not to mention her heel-face turn is... not the best one in the series, to put it mildly.
It's not really a heel-face turn if she was never evil to begin with.
Vivi and Robin were way worse.
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hahahahhaah, another reason to praise the lord for not being here in those dark days.
Not sure about here, I was mostly on MH at that time.
Most prevailing arguments were his chemistry with the crew and "Robin and Franky were also introduced as bad guys
".But not sure I'm the one to talk, I once rooted for Perona.
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Even so, all of Supernovas are after title of Pirate King as well. Let's also not forget that they are pirates. Even if Luffy does form alliances with pirates (such as current alliance with Law), they will definitely fall apart at one point. I think most pirates understand that. Only pirate with longstanding alliances was WB and he wasn't after One Piece anyway. My thoughts on the subject.
We don't know if they are all after One Piece they may simply like the pirate life. And they could simply be converted thanks to Luffy's charisma or their time in the NW.
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That was kind of the point. Roger saw a need for revolution, but knew that he didn't possess the charisma or organization necessary to create a rebel army. Rayleigh even said exactly that when the Strawhats met with him at his house on Sabaody Archipelago. They had found knowledge of corruption and lies in a long-standing system, but didn't have the resources to do anything about it on their own. So, instead, Roger and his crew amassed a fortune (or the legend of one), hid it somewhere, and convinced the adventure-seekers of the world to take up arms and look for it. By inspiring piracy, they set the pace for a new age. In contrast, when we look at Monkey D. Dragon's attempt at a more direct approach, we find that the rebel army has only created conflict, death, and strife across the world. In the end, the rebel army has been successful, but it has also cost countless lives over the years and destroyed cities. Dragon took advantage of what Roger started, and created something far more direct. So far, though, despite their success, the cost has been far greater than what Roger (or anyone else in that position) would have wanted. Garp even knew this, and that's why he went to lengths to keep Luffy ignorant of his father's actions (removing him from his parents, taking him to a remote jungle hideout at age 10, etc.).
tl;dr Roger made enemies on purpose, but the right kind of enemies. Otherwise, he would have just been considered another terrorist by the One Piece World, like Dragon.
Roger was dying. I doubt he wanted to pass the rest of his time meddling with the government rather than enjoy his time.
We don't what the knowledge they found implied since Rayleigh claimed they may have been too hasty in their conclusions.
Pretty sure the pirate age was Roger personal idea rather than Crew's. Mostly because the last talk Rayleigh had with him was Roger telling him he ain't dying.
Where does such a grim vision of the revolutionary work come from?
We don't know how Garp end up with Luffy. Dragon might have make the decision. And Luffy end up in that hideout because he sympathized with Shanks.
Seeing how they wanted to publicly executed him and how everyone related to him was persecuted, I'm pretty sure he was considered as badly as Dragon. He simply happen to be dead.
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The great age of piracy is a pretty big change.
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That depends.
What constitutes evil for you? Actions, or the intent?
The fact that she was never on Doula Mongo's side to begin with.
Compare with Mr. 2 who was genuinely supporting Crocodile only to become an ally later. This is a true heel-face turn.
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The trio of Riku's, Fujitora and Doflamingo, along with their conflicting ideologies and philosophies seems to be something I should be extremly weary of. I don't know, I have terrible feelings about that one.
It's One Piece. They are definetly good guys and no matter how cheesy, contradictory and stupid they may act everything is gonna be fine.
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And their fighting style.
You don't like Kyros style? He seems a little less shy about hurting people.
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The fact that she was never on Doula Mongo's side to begin with.
Compare with Mr. 2 who was genuinely supporting Crocodile only to become an ally later. This is a true heel-face turn.
Still can't believe how fast Mr.2 re-become a friend.
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Hey! If I learned something watching Pirates of the Caribbean, it's that betrayal is part of a pirate's routine. It's nothing personal really.
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The fact that she was never on Doula Mongo's side to begin with.
Compare with Mr. 2 who was genuinely supporting Crocodile only to become an ally later. This is a true heel-face turn.
Wow. So you genuinely believe that working for the guy who is evidently leader of blackmarker dealig in weapons trade, human trafficing, human experimentantions, weapons of mass destruction, slavery and similar stuff for ten years, serving loyaly enough for his underlings to be suprised by your treachery, is ok because deep down in her heart she never truly believed his cause?
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It's One Piece. They are definetly good guys and no matter how cheesy, contradictory and stupid they may act everything is gonna be fine.
It being stupid and contradictory is what bothers me.
You don't like Kyros style? He seems a little less shy about hurting people.
That seems to be his style, not Riku's. Riku's style is the one he taught to Rebecca, and the one Riku himself is using, not the one he uses.
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Wow. So you genuinely believe that working for the guy who is evidently leader of blackmarker dealig in weapons trade, human trafficing, human experimentantions, weapons of mass destruction, slavery and similar stuff for ten years, serving loyaly enough for his underlings to be suprised by your treachery, is ok because deep down in her heart she never truly believed his cause?
Her situation wasn't much different from Nami's.
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Wow. So you genuinely believe that working for the guy who is evidently leader of blackmarker dealig in weapons trade, human trafficing, human experimentantions, weapons of mass destruction, slavery and similar stuff for ten years, serving loyaly enough for his underlings to be suprised by your treachery, is ok because deep down in her heart she never truly believed his cause?
Because if she didn't serve him, her father would be killed?
Like madriano says, she's no different from Nami or Vivi.
Also, Doula Mongo wasn't surprised by her betrayal.
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Her situation wasn't much different from Nami's.
And do you see me preaching about Nami's goodnes?
Straw Hats character centered morality makes it difficult to argue for any of them being actually moraly good.
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Because if she didn't serve him, her father would be killed?
Like madriano says, she's no different from Nami or Vivi.
Having justification for your actions does not make them good. Especially if you have fully functional justice system that would hit those people like a ton of bricks if only they were provided with evidence.
Also, Doula Mongo wasn't surprised by her betrayal.
But her underlings, who were presumably not privy to blackmail, were. That suggests she must've been fairly loyal and effective member of the family for the duration of her services.
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And do you see me preaching about Nami's goodnes?
Straw Hats character centered morality makes it difficult to argue for any of them being actually moraly good.
What the hell are you complaining about now?
For us readers, they're supposed to be the good guys. I don't know why you're trying to overcomplicate a pirate comic book aimed for kids.
Having justification for your actions does not make them good. Especially if you have fully functional justice system that would hit those people like a ton of bricks if only they were provided with evidence.
But her underlings, who were presumably not privy to blackmail, were. That suggests she must've been fairly loyal and effective member of the family for the duration of her services.
What the fuck does the justice system has anything to do with this?
Again, she never supported Doula Mongo. Do you even know what loyal means?
Underlings being surprised? Fodder get surprised all the time about the smallest things.
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Having justification for your actions does not make them good. Especially if you have fully functional justice system that would hit those people like a ton of bricks if only they were provided with evidence.
We still don't know everything about Doffy's connection to Government tough. If Viola tried to tattle to the Marines she probably would've just gotten Dold and Rebecca killed.
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Wow. So you genuinely believe that working for the guy who is evidently leader of blackmarker dealig in weapons trade, human trafficing, human experimentantions, weapons of mass destruction, slavery and similar stuff for ten years, serving loyaly enough for his underlings to be suprised by your treachery, is ok because deep down in her heart she never truly believed his cause?
It may not be ok but it leaves you in the good guy side if you're doing it for someone important to you. It's even suppose to make people sympathize to your situation and be on your side.
It being stupid and contradictory is what bothers me.
I can undersstand stupid but why are they contradictary?
That seems to be his style, not Riku's. Riku's style is the one he taught to Rebecca, and the one Riku himself is using, not the one he uses.
My bad, I thought you meant you doesn't like the fighting style of any family member.
But to be fair only 2 members on 4 use it. And Riku seems to have adapted Kyros style to his ideology.
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No, you are trying to oversimplify it.
Oversimplify what? Oda tends to be very clear and simple about which characters we are meant to sympathize with.
