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I'd actually wager around a billion.
Same here. Not only is Sabo pretty strong, but the revolutionaries in general most likely have higher bounties than pirates of similar strength due to the whole "going directly against the WG" thing.
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Any time "Kung-Fu" Chopper appears, I swear I want to remove my eyeballs.
How in the FUCK is that design supposed to be "Kung-Fu?"
Donquixote Rosinante deserved what happened. He was a liar and a traitor. I hate when characters betray, even if its happening on the villains side.
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Any time "Kung-Fu" Chopper appears, I swear I want to remove my eyeballs.
How in the FUCK is that design supposed to be "Kung-Fu?"
… maybe its because he resembles the Kung Fu Panda??
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I think the point wink wink is that it doesn't look like Kung-Fu practitioner. You know, the joke and all that stuff. I personally would be perfectly okay with it, if all of his remaining forms (sans monster) weren't "cutified" post-TS.
All hail Machvise-sama, Arlong Park Character Tournament 2016 Champion!
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I think the point wink wink is that it doesn't look like Kung-Fu practitioner. You know, the joke and all that stuff. I personally would be perfectly okay with it, if all of his remaining forms (sans monster) weren't "cutified" post-TS.
Well I was going to ask how his Heavy Point was cute when the body reminds me of a mix between Garp and the Hulk … but only going and relooking at it I see his head looks 'normal' cute like. So that point was struck down.
Really. I like the pre-timeskip heavy point vs the post-timeskip
IMO his Walking point wasn't "cutified" as it looks more like a grown reindeer … though his wide eyes may be seen as cute by some ... and the smile... and the clothes ... protest dies into silence
I miss his arm point, there wasn't anything cute about it….
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So Im re reading Punk Hazard, and tnrough it all mostly, Buggy is with Luffy. And it makes me wonder. If Shanks and Buggy were in Rogers crew, how come everyone weve seen from Rogers crew, sees Luffy as the next PK etc, but Buggy never mentions any similarities with his previous captain. Any thoughts as to why??
What reason would there be to interfere with a man's departure?
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Interesting. Maybe deep down, he subconsciously feels Luffy is competition. He said he gave up on the dream of becoming Pirate King but what if he still hasn't completely given up on it? Or, he has only seen Roger as the Pirate King and not as his young self, and never as his own enemy. I feel Buggy doesn't realize that Luffy would be great at partying with him but he can't get past the fact that Luffy has defeated him many times in the past.
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So Im re reading Punk Hazard, and tnrough it all mostly, Buggy is with Luffy. And it makes me wonder. If Shanks and Buggy were in Rogers crew, how come everyone weve seen from Rogers crew, sees Luffy as the next PK etc, but Buggy never mentions any similarities with his previous captain. Any thoughts as to why??
The others care about the one piece. He cares about treasure. He's not seeking great people he just want a maximum of gold.
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The others care about the one piece. He cares about treasure. He's not seeking great people he just want a maximum of gold.
I think you are not thinking about it deeply. Even if he's not seeking it, he would be able to tell of a resemblance. He was on a boat with Roger on it.
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This reminds me of a post by Katzztar sparked by my dumb prediction post. So, be aware it's simply based on that and was more for fun:
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=13350&p=3793261&viewfull=1#post3793261
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The others care about the one piece. He cares about treasure. He's not seeking great people he just want a maximum of gold.
thats the thing thou. Regardless of hes interested in just treasure or not, we see that Buggy was still close to his captain, therefore there should be at least a slim chance that Buggy recognizes one detail. Like his recklessness or honesty or something. Wanting something diff than others doesnt preclude you from comparing or reminiscing in anyway.
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I think you are not thinking about it deeply. Even if he's not seeking it, he would be able to tell of a resemblance. He was on a boat with Roger on it.
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This reminds me of a post by Katzztar sparked by my dumb prediction post. So, be aware it's simply based on that and was more for fun:
http://forums.arlongpark.net/showthread.php?t=13350&p=3793261&viewfull=1#post3793261
that was hilarious to read lol
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So Im re reading Punk Hazard, and tnrough it all mostly, Buggy is with Luffy. And it makes me wonder. If Shanks and Buggy were in Rogers crew, how come everyone weve seen from Rogers crew, sees Luffy as the next PK etc, but Buggy never mentions any similarities with his previous captain. Any thoughts as to why??
Because Buggy never understood what made Roger great besides his strength
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About Buggy recognizing any characteristics of Roger in Luffy or not…
I've seen many remembering that "Luffy is a lot like Roger", however I'm remembering something from when Luffy & Buggy first met. Seems that Luffy reminded Buggy of Shanks. Esp. that Strawhat reminded Buggy of Shanks. After all in all the flahsbacks, whenever Buggy was with the Roger Pirates, it was Shanks, not Roger, who had the hat.
Now lets remember that while Buggy respected Roger, he hates Shanks. So with Luffy reminding Buggy first of Shanks, Buggy would focus on that and ignore any reminder of Roger. OR it could be he did see it but refused to acknowledge it since Luffy reminded him of Shanks the most.--- Update From New Post Merge ---
Because Buggy never understood what made Roger great besides his strength
I doubt that, Buggy seemed to actually care about his captain. unless you twist that to say Buggy respected his strength of character as well his power
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About Buggy recognizing any characteristics of Roger in Luffy or not…
I've seen many remembering that "Luffy is a lot like Roger", however I'm remembering something from when Luffy & Buggy first met. Seems that Luffy reminded Buggy of Shanks. Esp. that Strawhat reminded Buggy of Shanks. After all in all the flahsbacks, whenever Buggy was with the Roger Pirates, it was Shanks, not Roger, who had the hat.
Now lets remember that while Buggy respected Roger, he hates Shanks. So with Luffy reminding Buggy first of Shanks, Buggy would focus on that and ignore any reminder of Roger. OR it could be he did see it but refused to acknowledge it since Luffy reminded him of Shanks the most.--- Update From New Post Merge ---
I doubt that, Buggy seemed to actually care about his captain. unless you twist that to say Buggy respected his strength of character as well his power
I never said he did not care about him, i said he never understood why he was so great, otherwise he would never prefer materialistic wealth rather than freedom what Roger sought.
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I never said he did not care about him, i said he never understood why he was so great, otherwise he would never prefer materialistic wealth rather than freedom what Roger sought.
Ah, you have a point there. Sorry to misunderstand you.
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I always saw Roger as attention whore more than a freedom seeker. His first words to Ray are about changing the world and his last trip was to make sure he gets remembered.
I'm sure Buggy loved his captain but since they seeked different he isn't one to be distracted by similarities to his captain. Foolish or reckless is just foolishness and recklessness. They aren't qualities that remind him how great his captain was but simply prove how stupid Luffy is(and Shanks was).
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Could Sanji's obsession with Absalom's devil fruit (invisibily) come from the fact that he was abused as a child and would have liked to "disappear", to hide to avoid being bullied? While on Thriller Bark, he mentions reading about it in his childhood. It could, of course, be after he left his home, and thus the reason would be to peep on women as he claims it is, but with the recent reveal of his full past I feel like it could fit in before too, and add a bit of tragic depth to what was a comical situation at the time.
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Good point, Kaptayn. The wish of invisibility fits well with the abused child state of mind.
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I guess it's just overthinking. Nowhere in the flashback does Sanji express his wish to disappear and there had been no other hint of him being abused in a story before Vinsmokes came into play. The Absalom scene itself also doesn't suggest there's anything more to it.
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Sometime you try to give things deeper meaning than they have. I remember when Sanji flashback popped up I was sure the reason for his chivalry would be because only the female of his family were kind to him with Reiku freeing him abd Sora being kind to him.
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Yeah, I was sure years before this happened that Sanji will get a second flashback because of him being physically incapable of hitting woman with no explanation, and then he gets a flashback about something completely different.
That's actually what I don't like about this whole Sanji situation. Aside of him having no home to come back to in Zeff flashback, it addresses no previous issues, his abuse comes out of nowhere. Person hating his life as a royal liking to call himself prince also comes off as weird; so does apparently having to learn to trust in his crew, or his inability to do everything himself after making speech about it to Usopp. -
I want to make a thread about the parallels or just straight rinse repeat story details, and creatures elements Oda has used in arcs in paradise and the new worlds Croc - Dofla, and totland - thriller bark.
Like how many damn times will we see living trees trying to foil the strawhats adventures before we're tired?Idk if this was like planned years ago by oda like were alabasta and thriller bark attempts at being these new world places? Or is oda just simply recycling the past elements as inspiration for the earlier places and just duping us all? Am I making any sense?
And like was nightmare luffy the inspiration for gear fourth? or was it just a foreshadowing?
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While I don't have any concrete answers, I think it's definitely possible. I think it's next to impossible that Oda had all these ideas as unique story entities in the first few years of OP and more realistic that he is drawing on his past work to influence newer arcs.
That being said, I thought Zou was really well done, and "original".
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Just saw something in a Reddit thread that cleared some things up for me. I had always been skeptical of the way Sabo lost/regained his memory. I apologize if everyone's already figured this out, but oh well, it makes more sense now. Sabo, Luffy, and Ace all swore their brotherly bond over a cup of sakazuki (sake). Ace was killed by Sakazuki (Akainu), and therefore once Sabo saw that, he must have remembered the connection between them and his past.
Still not sure if amnesia was still the best way to explain things, but I suppose it could have been worse. As to why he didn't remember his connection with his brothers when their bounties were probably well known around the world, it didn't spark enough for him to recover. I'm more curious as to why Luffy didn't recognize Sabo, because the latter's bounty poster must have been spread around…then again, Luffy didn't even know who Dragon was, so ignorance could be written off...
Also, side note, not much to do with the above, the 3rd and final "What if" chapter Oda drew is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/6xg7w8/the_translated_conclusion_to_the_what_if_chapters/
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yes there is a pun with sakazuki, but seeing Ace in the paper is enough to make him remember.
As for Luffy reading the paper or looking at bounties–- he just never does that, while Sabo is supposed to be aware of geopolitical issues, who is opposing the WG and other things. And reminder that Sabo's dream in the flashback was that he wanted to write a book about his adventures so he's not really the dumbass kind like Luffy or Ace
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Sabo: omg, there was a war between the WG and the Whitebeard pirates ? I didn't know lol.
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wouldn't have caesar sooner or later become a liability for Doffy anyway with the business he did with Big Mom?
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wouldn't have caesar sooner or later become a liability for Doffy anyway with the business he did with Big Mom?
Doffy was backed by Kaido anyway so the two Emporers would have theoterically held each other in check.
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Doffy was backed by Kaido anyway so the two Emporers would have theoterically held each other in check.
I think this would probably mean war, isnt this Gigantification one of Big Moms most desire? She probably would do anything for it…
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Just a random thought: I'm surprised there hasn't been any pistol sword-like weapons in the series. Something like this:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_438557
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Zeus being left behind might actually be helpful to the BM pirates because if Nami fed him again while they were over the ocean he might drop BM into the sea and, unless Peros or someone else was able to catch her, they'd have to abandon the chase to get her out of the water.
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Just a random thought: I'm surprised there hasn't been any pistol sword-like weapons in the series. Something like this:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_438557
Probably because the flintlock technology of op verse, just a guess. But. Thinking about it it is weird that their hasn't been one. Seems like perfect weapon for some of the scummy new world fodder we see.
Another thing I just thought of. We went to impel down and saw many of luffy old enemies, so is arlong dead. I hope so. Not just cause I dislike arlong, but because i can't stand how pda keeps characters alive, when they really have no purpose.
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Probably because the flintlock technology of op verse, just a guess. But. Thinking about it it is weird that their hasn't been one. Seems like perfect weapon for some of the scummy new world fodder we see.
Another thing I just thought of. We went to impel down and saw many of luffy old enemies, so is arlong dead. I hope so. Not just cause I dislike arlong, but because i can't stand how pda keeps characters alive, when they really have no purpose.
Luffy's whole shtick at the end of Arlong Park was erasing everything about Arlong in Nami's life. So never having him appear in the present is a good way to commemorate that mindset, and also empower his legacy on the lives he has effected with the weight it deserves.
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Another thing I just thought of. We went to impel down and saw many of luffy old enemies, so is arlong dead. I hope so. Not just cause I dislike arlong, but because i can't stand how pda keeps characters alive, when they really have no purpose.
We know he's alive and in an East Blue prison with the other Arlong Pirates, except Hacchi of course.
I do think it's interesting that he never was brought to Impel Down, especially after seeing that he's been there before. Perhaps they don't bother sending Pirates from the 4 Blue seas to Impel Down unless they have a certain Bounty. Or perhaps Arlong still has other Marines to bribe to stay in East Blue, rather than Impel Down.
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With the only person capable of reading Poneglyphs (also with most of the people with potential of having VoAT being on his side), a road poneglyph unknown to anyone else and rubbing of the BM's one, Luffy as of now is literally the man closest to One Piece* by a margin. Combine it with the fleet of seasoned warriors and him being in general "second tier" of strength (not quite the Yonko yet, but capable of dancing with their best men), and I'm quite sure Luffy is Top 5 pirate in the world, just below the emperors. Though I guess he won't get the recognition deserved unless him having two RPs already gets revealed.
And honestly, I'm not sure if I like it. Luffy going to the top should have happened sooner or later, but I believe Supernovas should provide some competition, but now not only are they becoming allies one after the other but they are being left in the dust by SHs as well.
*assuming Shanks is for one reason or another unable to reach Raftel or is not participating in the race
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Also, side note, not much to do with the above, the 3rd and final "What if" chapter Oda drew is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/6xg7w8/the_translated_conclusion_to_the_what_if_chapters/
Wow, didn't even know it existed. Is there any place I can read all of them?
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You know what would be cool? If the incident with the Tamatebako Box explosion gets brought up at the Reverie from Stussy's report and Fishman gets blamed for trying to adsassinate a Yonko.
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How will Zoro react once the crew is finally back together? Will he throw a fit over Sanji's actions of leaving the crew? I think he will just make some snarky comment to Sanji and leave it at that.
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Expecting major consequences and development from past arcs for the Straw Hats will always be silly to expect.
Spoiler:
"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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True that. I think I just miss their interactions with each other. I can only hope Zoro has been using this time away to come up with some classic smart-ass banter to throw at Sanji.
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I still remember reading a suggestion that if Zoro was present at Whole Cake, Reiju could find him attractive enough to flirt with in front of Sanji. Something like that sounds hilarious.
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"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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Will Morgans include Luffy's statement of beating Kaido in his story? Would be interesting to see reactions.
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Sanji's situation is closer to Robin than Usopp, so Zoro won't have problem with it. You could say Sanji should know better because Robin happened (which I wholeheartedly agree with), but I don't see Zoro minding that since Sanji already understood he made a mistake. It's also important distinction to make, from Luffy's perspective, Robin and Sanji never left the crew. Usopp had to beg, Nami (who never joined the crew prior) was asked and Chopper was won in DBF, but those two were neither asked back nor they asked to be taken back
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I still remember reading a suggestion that if Zoro was present at Whole Cake, Reiju could find him attractive enough to flirt with in front of Sanji. Something like that sounds hilarious.
That would be awesome. Then Sanji would have to flirt with Tashigi in front of Zoro. I always knew One Piece would make a great soap opera.
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This is probably old news, and/or a coincidence but I think it is nice to think that even from back then, there was some sort of plan.
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Basically, Sabo even before chapter 100.
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This is probably old news, and/or a coincidence but I think it is nice to think that even from back then, there was some sort of plan.
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Basically, Sabo even before chapter 100.
What am I missing? Looked hard and don't see a sabo reference lol
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What am I missing? Looked hard and don't see a sabo reference lol
The first page, second panel. Someone with a long dark coat and a top hat.
Second page, the panel where Buggy says: Any last words?
Dragon was in Logue Town when he helped Luffy escape Smoker, Sabo being there wouldn't be weird neither. More than a reference it would be the man himself.
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Now that Kira post that picture, i would love to see the real foreshadowed image of Bartolomeo watching that, i don't look any punk in those two pages sadly D:
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The first page, second panel. Someone with a long dark coat and a top hat.
Second page, the panel where Buggy says: Any last words?
Dragon was in Logue Town when he helped Luffy escape Smoker, Sabo being there wouldn't be weird neither. More than a reference it would be the man himself.
Ahh gotcha. Damn, the all black outfit is really contrasted with the rest of the crowd too, like it was meant to stand out.
And he moves to the front of the crowd in case Dragon fails at saving Luffy.Interesting… Nice catch!
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