One has to admit, Spain played beautifully tonight. They were a joy to watch: beautuful play after beautiful play.
They looked like they were…having fun you know. And their passes? Masterly!
Feel bad for Italy though, especially after how great they were against Germany (no catenaccio? Hell yeah!), but eh.
Spain was my 2nd fav, right after Germany, so I'm content! XD
Just got back from driving all of my wasted relatives home. My parents are passed out in the room.
All the whining at bitching I had to listen to has ignited a fury at the Italian tea for losing. I mean, I was sad earlier, but now I'm pissed.
Sigh…it's days like these that make me wish I drank.
I really like Euro, because there's only 1 team I ever root for: Italy.
Come the World Cup I'm always torn between USA and Italy, and whenever they meet up I'm always in an awkward position with my family.
It's okay though, I have 2 years to figure that out.
Drink. Do it. All your miseries.
I don't like Spain. I really don't
The message is still favorites don't always win but Spain managed to do it thrice in a row. Also you said it would the most epic final of all time so your magic crystal ball seems to work just as good as mine. ;-)
Is your magic ball a giant wadded up orb of tissue you jerk off into over the Spanish team?
Spain's been reading Sun Tzu.
Drink. Do it. All your miseries.
I don't like Spain. I really don't
They never asked you to like them and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like you either.
Congratulations to Spain, once again! You earned it boys! Making history is coming naturally to us! Woo! Good hustle on all the teams that tried! Bring your top game for the World Cup. The champs shall be waiting!
@Alpha:
They never asked you to like them and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like you either.
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AMAZING game! Xavi you beauty!!!! The second goal's assist by Xavi defines him!
The golden age of Spain football.
Wonder when will it ends and what happens after.
[h=6]we didn't play like we know. first we were clearly physically unfit, imho we gave the max against eng and ger, and came to kiev with no strength at all. 2nd prandelli didnt made all the right choices, i didn't like the choice of chiellini and motta. the real italy can compete against spain, but tonight we were the worst italy of the tournment, against the best. a pity for the late 2 goals due to being 10 and having completely give up, 4-0 is too much. anyway i'm happy about how we played overall and think we have to be proud of being in the final.[/h]
@Alpha:
They never asked you to like them and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like you either.
Did your mom hijack your account or are you really this lame.
@Monkey:
Is your magic ball a giant wadded up orb of tissue you jerk off into over the Spanish team?
Your are ssssoooo mad now. Delicious Italian fanboy tears i wonder who is angrier now you or your idol?
Your are ssssoooo mad now. Delicious Italian fanboy tears i wonder who is angrier now you or your idol?
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I don't really know who any of these people are, I'm an American lol. I just wanted to see Germany lose.
That and make fun of the pathetic little kid running around the thread wanking all over the walls, you!
@Monkey:
I don't really know who any of these people are, I'm an American lol. I just wanted to see Germany lose.
That and make fun of the pathetic little kid running around the thread wanking all over the walls, you!
Spain is just fucking insane. I placed a bet on them anyway, but I never expected a goddamn 4:0, that's just brutal.
Watched the game with some italian friends, and the atmosphere sure was awkward when they felt terrible and I had to act like I was sad too, while being secretly happy about earning a very decent amount of money :]
God bless gambling for making boring things actually exciting.
No Football for a month, this will be a long month :\
I can literally hear your grunts of self-satisfaction.
lol at a European guy thinking America gives any fuck at all about soccer
Now if you want to actually get competitive, the Olympics are coming up! See you there Spain! Bet you'll win all the medals!
@Monkey:
Did your mom hijack your account or are you really this lame.
I don't have to phrase what I say in order for it to appeal to your "maturity" level and I'll say whatever I like as long as it's in reasonable bounds. How about you sit down and watch the final match again buddy? You want to borrow that giant wadded up orb? It's been working for us Spain fans maybe it'll work for your team as well.
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@Monkey:
lol at a European guy thinking America gives any fuck at all about soccer
Now if you want to actually get competitive, the Olympics are coming up! See you there Spain! Bet you'll win all the medals!
Why you mad brah. Us Canadians smacked you guys at the winter Olympics. Besides the Euro guys such as Beckham and Henry are being paid millions to play in the MLS by American teams. Sad how your own country pays the "Euro" guys more than your own, cool? Besides, the amount of medals you win doesn't mean anything. The number of gold medals attained shows true talent and determination, though I'm not saying all other athletes don't have that. Besides America has a huge population, it's only fitting that they have a higher number of participants.
@Alpha:
I don't have to phrase what I say in order for it to appeal to your "maturity" level and I'll say whatever I like as long as it's in reasonable bounds. How about you sit down and watch the final match again buddy? You want to borrow that giant wadded up orb? It's been working for us Spain fans maybe it'll work for your team as well.
Fresh off the devastating blow of "sticks and stones" the warrior brandishes his next weapon, proudly crowing the powers of embarrassing fanboy masturbation.
He unzips his pants and gets out hand lotion. "Now witness this mortals" he smiles.
Why you mad brah. Us Canadians smacked you guys at the winter Olympics.
Yes, the Vancouver Olympics….
say... something is up here...
Besides the Euro guys such as Beckham and Henry are being paid millions to play in the MLS by American teams. Sad how your own country pays the "Euro" guys more than your own, cool?
Americans don't watch soccer lol, at all. Our team is a little throwaway we don't pay attention to or care about so it outsources to get by.
This is like making fun of a jazz band because they don't have a great guitarist lol.
Now a sport we do play of course, Hockey for instance, is pretty good. I recall them beating another country recently….some place cold, boring, and that has more moose than people.....who I think may or may not have thrown the world's most laughable whiny riot in the aftermath?
The Boston Bruins, my local Hockey team did it pretty sure. Now who was the other side.... ....can't seem to recall...
Besides, the amount of medals you win doesn't mean anything. The number of gold medals attained shows true talent and determination, though I'm not saying all other athletes don't have that. Besides America has a huge population, it's only fitting that they have a higher number of participants.
Yes because sports works like Chimps on typewriters, by throwing a ton of people at something you win a lot, talent and hard work has nothing to do with it of course.
Monkey King, I hate to disagree with you on something as inane as this, but it might just be northerners who don't like soccer.
It's really freaking popular in Texas. FC Dallas games are usually packed.
And whenever I go to a game during the school year out in Cali, there's generally a strong attendance.
The only reason players like Beckham get huge contracts here in the US, is because the clubs make enough money to fun those contracts.
While soccer might be the least popular major league sport here in the US (in tight competition with Hockey for that – though the NHL suffered due to the strike a few years back and is slowly getting popular again) it's still has a large amount of fans.
@Nex:
Monkey King, I hate to disagree with you on something as inane as this, but it might just be northerners who don't like soccer.
It's really freaking popular in Texas. FC Dallas games are usually packed.
And whenever I go to a game during the school year out in Cali, there's generally a strong attendance.The only reason players like Beckham get huge contracts here in the US, is because the clubs make enough money to fun those contracts.
While soccer might be the least popular major league sport here in the US (in tight competition with Hockey for that – though the NHL suffered due to the strike a few years back and is slowly getting popular again) it's still has a large amount of fans.
The increasing number of Latino-American immigrants has somewhat helped popularize soccer football. It's the most popular sport over here by far.
@Nex:
Monkey King, I hate to disagree with you on something as inane as this, but it might just be northerners who don't like soccer.
It's really freaking popular in Texas. FC Dallas games are usually packed.
And whenever I go to a game during the school year out in Cali, there's generally a strong attendance.The only reason players like Beckham get huge contracts here in the US, is because the clubs make enough money to fun those contracts.
While soccer might be the least popular major league sport here in the US (in tight competition with Hockey for that – though the NHL suffered due to the strike a few years back and is slowly getting popular again) it's still has a large amount of fans.
Anything in a country of 300 million will have a lot of fans, that doesn't make it proportionally popular. It's like the fact that India has the third largest population of Muslims in the world. But if you said something to the effect that Islam was popular in India you'd be very wrong. Only 14% of the population is Muslim.
The fact that there is no national system of soccer (and that the times it's been tried it dissolved), and that basic media attention is nearly zero next to the rabid followings and coverage of Football, Baseball and Basketball says it all really. Even Hockey has those things even if it's more of a cult hit among Americans. Soccer doesn't even have that. It can't even compare to Hockey here.
Maybe you know a lot of people who really like it and care a lot, and that's cool. But I highly doubt that has any baring on the country, and I'm SUPER skeptical that Texas or the South as a whole is really into Soccer secretly. The only explanation to that would be what King Cannon is saying.
The US is pretty much one of the only countries in the world that doesn't care about soccer. Sometimes people will follow it because of some trending twitter shit like when Japan beat USA in the women's world cup and all you saw was FUCK YOU DAMN JAPS YOU DONT DESERVE TO WIN HOPE YOU GET BOMBED AGAIN because lol people.
Although I tuned into an MLS game the other day and was surprised by the large amount of attendants.
In Cali it's a given you'll get a lot of attendants. A lot of times Mexico plays in LA or Oakland or somewhere around So Cal or Nor Cal and even the league teams from Mexico like Chivas and America come to Cali to play. Mexico has played in Dallas, too. A lot of immigrants and legal Mexicans who love the sport. Most of those games are like 99% Mexicans or other Latinos, lol.
Now, personally, the only sport I give a shit about in the Olympics for USA will be USA basketball. That's probably their strongest team. REDEEM TEAM BABY. Like Dream Team all over again… ok, not really but close.
@Monkey:
I don't really know who any of these people are, I'm an American lol.
Yay, stay ignorant.
I gotta say I'm glad Spain won.
I don't care too much about football but the Italian fans in my neighbourhood are really annoying when they win a game.
Yay, stay ignorant.
I just finished quizzing myself on the 500 largest cities of Europe, for fun, I got 388 without looking.
I know more things about the world than you've forgotten.
So yeah, if this was some reeeeally bad Hail Mary pass (that's some terminology from American football btw) to play off of "IGNARANT AMERICA", you should maybe do the two following.
1. Don't choose to do it over friggin sports.
2. And damn well don't do it with me.
I have to agree with Zeph here. As much as I love soccer (football, futball, etc.) it's just not as popular. Everywhere else it's either the number 1 or 2 sport to watch. In America, it's fifth or lower. Klinsmann himself said that the only way for the US team to really get good is to have Soccer become not just a sport we happen to like, but a pastime like Basketball or Football. As a whole nation, we don't have that interest. It's the same reason the US tries to hold a Grand Prix for Formula 1 every few years, and it never holds. We don't have the interest, because we have our own racing to follow. I'm a fan of MLS, not as much as other leagues, but it won't be as popular as the NBA or NFL or MLB, not even the NHL for awhile.
Yay, stay ignorant.
You just called one of the most politically savvy people on this forum ignorant.
I have to agree with Zeph here. As much as I love soccer (football, futball, etc.) it's just not as popular. Everywhere else it's either the number 1 or 2 sport to watch. In America, it's fifth or lower. Klinsmann himself said that the only way for the US team to really get good is to have Soccer become not just a sport we happen to like, but a pastime like Basketball or Football. As a whole nation, we don't have that interest. It's the same reason the US tries to hold a Grand Prix for Formula 1 every few years, and it never holds. We don't have the interest, because we have our own racing to follow. I'm a fan of MLS, not as much as other leagues, but it won't be as popular as the NBA or NFL or MLB, not even the NHL for awhile.
You just called one of the most politically savvy people on this forum ignorant.
Evelyne is a cool poster who has made a neat career here of whining about the new Berserk anime and picking on Nolus, so you know we should maybe concede to her….. a great poster in the making we can't hope to question.
The US is pretty much one of the only countries in the world that doesn't care about soccer. Sometimes people will follow it because of some trending twitter shit like when Japan beat USA in the women's world cup and all you saw was FUCK YOU DAMN JAPS YOU DONT DESERVE TO WIN HOPE YOU GET BOMBED AGAIN because lol people.
Although I tuned into an MLS game the other day and was surprised by the large amount of attendants.
In Cali it's a given you'll get a lot of attendants. A lot of times Mexico plays in LA or Oakland or somewhere around So Cal or Nor Cal and even the league teams from Mexico like Chivas and America come to Cali to play. Mexico has played in Dallas, too. A lot of immigrants and legal Mexicans who love the sport. Most of those games are like 99% Mexicans or other Latinos, lol.
Now, personally, the only sport I give a shit about in the Olympics for USA will be USA basketball. That's probably their strongest team. REDEEM TEAM BABY. Like Dream Team all over again… ok, not really but close.
Honestly for MLS soccer it all depends where your team plays. I know the L.A. Galaxy usually sell out every time they play )and that's mostly because of guys most sports fans in general know about like Landon Donovan, Beckham and Robby Keane). People in the Pacific Northwest love the shit out of soccer, especially Seattle which have basically replaced the SuperSonics with the Sounders. So that's how I view socer in the US when it's not the national team or foreign clubs coming to play MLS teams (Like Man U and Real MAdrid)
I've seen Seattle play. Aren't their uniforms colors almost exactly like the SuperSonics?
Texas is the only southern state that has a soccer culture. It is the only southern state that is represented in the MLS. Infact, there are no MLS clubs between DC and Dallas. Most of the South is into (American) football. Soccer in the US is only big in areas that have a large latino population.
The US is an insulated bubble as far as major team sports go. All the popular sports here have been developed here. And since here is where the money is, these sports live and thrive. And you have laughable notions like the 'World Series' in baseball.
@cooldud_21:
Texas is the only southern state that has a soccer culture. It is the only southern state that is represented in the MLS. Infact, there are no MLS clubs between DC and Dallas. Most of the South is into (American) football. Soccer in the US is only big in areas that have a large latino population.
The US is an insulated bubble as far as major team sports go. All the popular sports here have been developed here. And since here is where the money is, these sports live and thrive. And you have laughable notions like the 'World Series' in baseball.
To be fair Baseball is really popular in parts of Latin American and even Japan.
But yeah soccer is only really popular where the Spanish/Portuguese speakers are at (and I'm not sure about the islanders, do Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Dominicans like Soccer? Those are the Hispanics up here and I have never noticed much Soccer care whereas Baseball I have).
And in the Northwest, which is basically America's version of Northern Europe culturally and demographically (aside from the Asians).
And we shouldn't really credit the global popularity of stuff like Rugby as a sign of an open minded global sport. It just means the British Empire got around lol.
I remember seeing a baseball game of Cuba vs Japan in the World Baseball Classic Tournament in San Diego. Japan won that game but up until now I had no idea they also actually won the whole thing.
@cooldud_21:
Texas is the only southern state that has a soccer culture. It is the only southern state that is represented in the MLS. Infact, there are no MLS clubs between DC and Dallas. Most of the South is into (American) football. Soccer in the US is only big in areas that have a large latino population.
The US is an insulated bubble as far as major team sports go. All the popular sports here have been developed here. And since here is where the money is, these sports live and thrive. And you have laughable notions like the 'World Series' in baseball.
New Mexico has a pretty big soccer culture as well. Hell, outside of basketball and pathetic football teams, it's all we really have, at least in the big cities.
New Mexico has a pretty big soccer culture as well. Hell, outside of basketball and pathetic football teams, it's all we really have, at least in the big cities.
New Mexico isn't in the south though, and it's got TONS of Hispanics right?
http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/09/redistricting-battles-show-latinos-face-barriers-to-political-power.html
Damnnnn, look at that map. New Mexico indeed!
I enjoy soccer when I watch it but I usually only watch tournaments like this and the World Cup because out of all the teams in Europe I have no idea who I should root for and don't live in a country so it would be decided for me.
I've seen Seattle play. Aren't their uniforms colors almost exactly like the SuperSonics?
Yeah their home gear is green (when they decide to feel "fancy" they will use their alternate colors of light blue and yellow). I was lucky to go to a game last year when I was in Seattle visiting family and if someone would have told me a MLS soccer team other than the Galaxy would consistently sell out their stadium (which I believe Seattle's holds 55, 60 thousand people), I would have laughed at that claim, but it's happened. When it comes to the MLS, if L.A., Seattle and Portland are playing on TV and there's nothing I like on, I'll watch just for the crowd reaction alone.
I enjoy soccer when I watch it but I usually only watch tournaments like this and the World Cup because out of all the teams in Europe I have no idea who I should root for and don't live in a country so it would be decided for me.
Soccer is cool, but I think I only occasionally watch it because it's interesting seeing whole countries go against each-other in something rather than cities. I couldn't give less of a damn about club games for instance.
Plus I have my problems with it, not enough goals tend to happened, and people are always doing those awful phony injuries to get penalties. I can't stand that part. That's not part of the game, and anyone who says it is is a moron.
Granted I don't really much watch sports of ANY kind, but I have much more fun watching the big American three when I do. Basketball in particular owns. Small playing area, lots of goals, cool atmosphere.
@Monkey:
New Mexico isn't in the south though, and it's got TONS of Hispanics right?
http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/09/redistricting-battles-show-latinos-face-barriers-to-political-power.html
Damnnnn, look at that map. New Mexico indeed!
Yeah, that would attribute to it.
We have sections of the nation that are huge soccer hubs, but let's be honest. Let's take Dallas and Denver, two major cities in the western US, and they both have an NBA, MLS, MLB, and NFL team. Dallas even has an NHL team. Now, if we took the most popular teams out of these 8, it's pretty easy.
Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Mavericks
Texas Rangers
FC Dallas
Denver Broncos
Denver Nuggets
Colorado Rockies
Colorado Rapids
And FC Dallas and Colorado are pretty popular teams, but they don't hold a candle to the other teams in the city.
Portland is the only team I can think of who's fanbase rivals that of their other in-city team. Maybe Seattle.
Yeah, that would attribute to it.
We have sections of the nation that are huge soccer hubs, but let's be honest. Let's take Dallas and Denver, two major cities in the western US, and they both have an NBA, MLS, MLB, and NFL team. Dallas even has an NHL team. Now, if we took the most popular teams out of these 6, it's pretty easy.
Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Mavericks
Texas Rangers
FC DallasDenver Broncos
Denver Nuggets
Colorado Rockies
Colorado RapidsAnd FC Dallas and Colorado are pretty popular teams, but they don't hold a candle to the other teams in the city.
Portland is the only team I can think of who's fanbase rivals that of their other in-city team. Maybe Seattle.
I have never ever even heard of an American Soccer team lol.
Tons of the big three teams and like…a couple Hockey teams, and that's it.
You just called one of the most politically savvy people on this forum ignorant.
In his defense, and for his sake, I think he was referring to ignorance when it comes to soccer. Someone can be incredibly knowledgeable at one thing, but if they know nothing about another subject, they can still be considered ignorant.
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he wasn't just flat out being a dick, and what he was trying to say was that MK (Zeph?) could know about the sport and the players if he chose too, but instead by deciding to not learn, he is choosing to remain ignorant to when it comes to soccer.
I'm not taking his side in this, just trying to explain what I think he meant, and should have said in nicer terms.
Anyway:
@Monkey:
Anything in a country of 300 million will have a lot of fans, that doesn't make it proportionally popular. It's like the fact that India has the third largest population of Muslims in the world. But if you said something to the effect that Islam was popular in India you'd be very wrong. Only 14% of the population is Muslim.
What I was really responding to was this statement you made:
@Monkey:
Americans don't watch soccer lol, at all. Our team is a little throwaway we don't pay attention to or care about so it outsources to get by.
You made a blanket generalization, that is really not true.
As you said, this is a country of 300 million people.
Let's assume that only 5% of the population watches soccer, that's still 15 million people. That's more than the population of Ireland, Croatia, Portugal, Greece, Denmark, Czech Republic, or Sweden, all countries with teams that made it to the group stage final.
Even though, it's only a small percentage of the population, it's still a lot of people.
Fun fact: soccer is also the most played children's sport up until about middle school, and then it drops off, because anyone interested in pursuing a career in sports is going to go where the money is: basketball, football or baseball. You don't see a lot of people keeping with soccer, tennis, or hockey throughout high school.
The fact that there is no national system of soccer (and that the times it's been tried it dissolved), and that basic media attention is nearly zero next to the rabid followings and coverage of Football, Baseball and Basketball says it all really. Even Hockey has those things even if it's more of a cult hit among Americans. Soccer doesn't even have that. It can't even compare to Hockey here.
What do you mean by no national system of soccer? The MLS is totally still a thing.
Maybe you know a lot of people who really like it and care a lot, and that's cool. But I highly doubt that has any baring on the country, and I'm SUPER skeptical that Texas or the South as a whole is really into Soccer secretly. The only explanation to that would be what King Cannon is saying.
The large percentage of latino population definitely contributes, but whenever I go to FC Dallas games, there are a ton of white people there.
Soccer really is starting to slowly become more popular here in the states, thanks mainly to the success of our national teams. Our men's team is pretty good. We did just beat Italy in a friendly not too long ago. We won our group at the last World Cup, and where ranked 12th overall. That's not too shabby.
The program really is on the climb.
And women's soccer is also pretty popular, mainly due to just how good our national women's team is.
But as both continue to succeed, the popularity will only climb, because Americans like winning.
Oh, and one more thing: it seems that it's "hip" to be into soccer these days among us youngsters. So that helps witht he popularity. Though I'm not sure if it's a good thing.
Basketball and baseball are more popular around the world, though. American football not as much. I suppose it's called the World Series because it's some of the best players from different places in a major league. Same with the NBA. The Finals Champions are also technically referred to as the World Champions because, really, who cares that much about FIBA?
Yes, it is popular in terms of numbers, but it's not yet popular in a cultural level. Other countries play Soccer like we play Basketball and Football in general. Someone brought a basketball with them? Cool, let's play and shoot around a little. We don't do that with soccer at that level yet. It happens, but not as often. The best soccer system we have is MLS, but what about in the years before that? High School and College only play for 3 months, the other 9 months is just people messing around with buds and "clubs" over the summer, not taking things seriously. We need something in College that allows for a longer season, or there just needs to be a more constant push for soccer as a bigger sport if we want to get good.
I will agree that soccer is on the climb, which is awesome to see.
Yeah, that would attribute to it.
We have sections of the nation that are huge soccer hubs, but let's be honest. Let's take Dallas and Denver, two major cities in the western US, and they both have an NBA, MLS, MLB, and NFL team. Dallas even has an NHL team. Now, if we took the most popular teams out of these 8, it's pretty easy.
Dallas Cowboys
Dallas Mavericks
Texas Rangers
FC Dallas
I'm just going to correct you, as I feel obliged to as someone who has lived right outside of Dallas for most of his life.
Currently, the Rangers are the most popular team here. Thanks to Ryan taking over and the team finally winning it's first ever playoff series two years ago everyone has become a Rangers fan. And it's not even the bandwagony type of fan. People are learning the rules to the game, who all the players are, how they system works. Everyone's really into baseball.
The Mavs are also really popular thanks to their recent success.
The Cowboy's stock is contantly falling every year they blow it. No team in the history of anything ever has such a fairweather fan base. Seriously, the fans are why the Cowboys are the only team in Dallas I don't normally pull for.
The Stars used to be pretty popular, and, as hockey is my favorite sport, I have season tickets every year, and have been able to see attendance slowly start to rise every year. The Stars won the Cup in '99 and popularity soared, then the Strike happened, and the NHL took a huge hit, every team in the US but the Redwings is still trying to recover from the strike.
FC Dallas, is definitely the least popular in a general percentage based look, though they do still regularly pack the house for games.
@Nex:
I'm just going to correct you, as I feel obliged to as someone who has lived right outside of Dallas for most of his life.
Currently, the Rangers are the most popular team here. Thanks to Ryan taking over and the team finally winning it's first ever playoff series two years ago everyone has become a Rangers fan. And it's not even the bandwagony type of fan. People are learning the rules to the game, who all the players are, how they system works. Everyone's really into soccer.
The Mavs are also really popular thanks to their recent success.
The Cowboy's stock is contantly falling every year they blow it. No team in the history of anything ever has such a fairweather fan base. Seriously, the fans are why the Cowboys are the only team in Dallas I don't normally pull for.
The Stars used to be pretty popular, and, as hockey is my favorite sport, I have season tickets every year, and have been able to see attendance slowly start to rise every year. The Stars won the Cup in '99 and popularity soared, then the Strike happened, and the NHL took a huge hit, every team in the US but the Redwings is still trying to recover from the strike.
FC Dallas, is definitely the least popular in a general percentage based look, though they do still regularly pack the house for games.
Fair enough, you're definitely the person with more knowledge in that area. I was just showing that while soccer is popular in both Denver and Dallas, it's still not proportionally popular to other sports.
@Nex:
In his defense, and for his sake, I think he was referring to ignorance when it comes to soccer. Someone can be incredibly knowledgeable at one thing, but if they know nothing about another subject, they can still be considered ignorant.
Uhhh it's a sport. You can't really be ignorant of a sport. Ignorance with the tone she was using is like suggesting someone's some kind of provincial idiot. Except instead of politics, economics, sciences, or whatever we're talking about knowing the names of grown men in short shorts who kick a rubber orb around grass.
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he wasn't just flat out being a dick, and what he was trying to say was that MK (Zeph?)
Zephos lol, I forget people are new sometimes.
I've had like nine accounts here, the first one was Zephos. Now that you know this, you have gained a higher level of Arlong Park knowledge and membership. Like moving up Karate belts or something.
I'm not taking his side in this, just trying to explain what I think he meant, and should have said in nicer terms.
Evelyn attacked Nolus once which is a pretty big indicator of poor character imo.
You made a blanket generalization, that is really not true.
As you said, this is a country of 300 million people.
Let's assume that only 5% of the population watches soccer, that's still 15 million people. That's more than the population of Ireland, Croatia, Portugal, Greece, Denmark, Czech Republic, or Sweden, all countries with teams that made it to the group stage final.
But that's the funny thing with proportions. Small though countries like those are, they are their own communities. And in those communities this is popular. Plus the thing with Europe is they play together and stuff, so it's really more that the US should be compared with all of Europe, not individual countries.
Anyway point is, the community that is the USA does not care about Soccer at all. It has zero relevance in the US. This is way of demographics.
Like with my India example, India is the deliberate creation in some sense of a Hindu nation state, with the third largest population of Muslims in the world. Whereas Pakistan (and Bangladesh) were created to house the Muslims of South Asia.
In Pakistan they are around 95% of the population, Islam matters there. In India it's 14% as I said, it is irrelevant aside from being an issue of a minority group. They don't hold sway on politics, culture or any such thing.
It's even more a point when the US soccer popularity can be singled primarily to Latinos. If they were taken out of the equation this would hurt even more. This means to a degree Soccer is isolated to largely one group within the US, a group whose influence on the main currents is still smallish, though rising fast.
This will result in some states experiencing more Soccer, namely those with populations of Mainland Latinos (Mexico etc), like down where you live.
Interestingly enough I was right about the island Latinos. In Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic (plus Venezuela actually) Baseball is what's super popular and Soccer really isn't. So you were on to something about the Northeast having less Soccer, our Hispanics play baseball!
Even though, it's only a small percentage of the population, it's still a lot of people.
But in terms of the US? It's not a lot of people. The US is a huge stage, grabbing that stage is much harder than places like Belgium.
Fun fact: soccer is also the most played children's sport up until about middle school, and then it drops off, because anyone interested in pursuing a career in sports is going to go where the money is: basketball, football or baseball. You don't see a lot of people keeping with soccer, tennis, or hockey throughout high school.
Oh yeah this is a really weird truth about the US, there is a ton of little league Soccer.
What do you mean by no national system of soccer? The MLS is totally still a thing.
I thought it had dissolved like the earlier ones, but honestly this kind of goes to show how invisible it is. I can promise you most of the US has no idea it exists.
I wasn't even aware it wasn't dead.
The large percentage of latino population definitely contributes, but whenever I go to FC Dallas games, there are a ton of white people there.
And there are bajillions of white people in the US. Seeing a bunch somewhere doesn't really suggest much statistically speaking.
No, people are aware of the MLS. It shows up a fair bit on Sportscenter and what not and God knows how many millions of people watch that every day including myself. Don't care about it but they know.
No, people are aware of the MLS. It shows up a fair bit on Sportscenter and what not and God knows how many millions of people watch that every day including myself. Don't care about it but they know.
I'm willing to bet people don't even think about it though, regarding it sort of like how most people regard Olympic Curling.
"Oh they're talking about one of those weird things now, when will they get back to the Rangers game scores."
