@nodensuke:
Is this the chapter that is/was supposed to be released on May 7-9?…
or was it this coming weeks chapter released early because of Golden Week?
it's this coming week, we should have got it on may 2nd
@nodensuke:
Is this the chapter that is/was supposed to be released on May 7-9?…
or was it this coming weeks chapter released early because of Golden Week?
it's this coming week, we should have got it on may 2nd
^^^
Thank you, goty and akagam7!
I kept reading it was the week of the 9ths chapter, but seemed kind of weird to have another 2 week break right after having one.
Some type of long-range knockout attack such as gas pellets is the most viable theory regarding Zoro's group, especially since the Yeti bros just kept on walking and left the three bodies lying in the snow (presumably to focus on Luffy's group, since he's the 400 mil bounty head). Had they fought, then the footsteps would've been more frenzied and spread out, as opposed to continuing on in a straight line. As others have said, Zoro and Sanji were probably bickering, which is why Brook was the only one who was alert enough to draw his sword…
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On their backs it looks like guns to me so I'm thinking some sort of tranquilizer dart or gas pellets as well. Since they're so big I don't really see any other purpose for them to have guns, since most problems they could probably just handle by themselves. Maybe they used them to take down the Dragon if it ever comes to their side of the island, or to take down unruly test subjects trying to escape without harming them.
Things on their back appear to be clubs, since there is woodgrain visible everywhere where it isn't blacked out.
It's also of note that they either have their arms crossed (in a "cool" way??) or my guess is they are carrying something in front of them.
Things on their heads, if we go with the gas theory and their actual weapon being carried in the front could be some kind of gas masks.
oh yes. my mistake
Why would you even suggest that?
If the underling is mendele, wouldn't it be logic that the superior would be hitler? Anyway, I was just kidding.
I have a question. Is it the Blackbeard pirates injured Megellon and gave him those brutal
scars? Cuz I don't remember if there s any information about how the BB pirates got out from Impel Down right to the war
Wow, this unethical thingys debate is annoying.
I just hate calling something "unethical". There are at least two different ethics I know about, and none of them has full support. If you mean immoral, each person has its own morals, so "ethic" and "moral" aren't objective things. Something is ethic according to some laws of ethic. Something is moral in someones opinion.
Now, changing someone into robots by their own will is not unethical according to any philosophy I know about. Kant is basically "Only do to others what you'd like to be done to yourself and do it because you should and not because its benefic or pleasurable" and mill is "Do what gives the most happiness to people". Changing someone into a robot can be done under those two ethics.
But just saying "[A] IS UNETHICAL" is plain stupid, imho.
@Le:
I have a question. Is it the Blackbeard pirates injured Megellon and gave him those brutal
scars? Cuz I don't remember if there s any information about how the BB pirates got out from Impel Down right to the war
Not only the Blackbeard pirates did this. They were accompanied by the Level 6 prisoners so Magellan had no real chance basically.
…It may be possible that Sanji, being an idiot, may have tried to fight in his compromised state, and Zoro had to step in and take a hit to protect Nami's body. Actually the scenario may also work even if Sanji wasn't being an idiot. Everyone would have just been caught off-guard I guess.
Sanji's still an idiot though.
Then why did Nami trust Zoro to protect her body from Sanji being an idiot.
Zoro was busy discussing, discussing how Sanji is an idiot. When are you going to see the consistency. You're claiming Sanji would protect Nami's body before Zoro, yet he's smoking cigarettes with her body.
Honestly, your arguments are pretty weak.
Wow. Read the chapter man. Seriously, read it. But you hate Sanji, so I'm not surprised by such an irrationally biased post.
And don't go calling Aldrato an idiot when he easily floored you in a single post.
oh god, did you even read the chapter? she sent Zoro just to keep them busy discussing, so Sanji wouldn't think about showing her panties to Brook or anything perverted.
Not only the Blackbeard pirates did this. They were accompanied by the Level 6 prisoners so Magellan had no real chance basically.
yeah i can understand that. with the power of BB, once he caught Megellon then its time for him to get fucked. Anyway i thought the only prisoners escaped are the ones that joined BB? are all lvl6 prisoners escaped? that just gon be fucked up. Anyway i think that it would be cooler if Megellon manages to go out to the sea to capture those prisoners back based on his personality.
Things on their back appear to be clubs, since there is woodgrain visible everywhere where it isn't blacked out.
It's also of note that they either have their arms crossed (in a "cool" way??) or my guess is they are carrying something in front of them.
Things on their heads, if we go with the gas theory and their actual weapon being carried in the front could be some kind of gas masks.
I don't doubt you that they COULD be clubs. But guns can have wooden stocks, making it look as if they are clubs.
@Law:
Caribou is allied/works for Doflamingo just like Bellamy did he talked about passing the information on to his boss after he failed to get the treasure that was stolen back also don't forget Doflamingo wanted Crocodile to work for him as well he recruits pirates to get information/some of the money they make also the 7 warlords act as bounty hunters so they get some of the money when they kill or hand over wanted people so he could share the money with them instead of them getting nothing when they kill wanted people.
I think the reason Caribou went after the Strawhat's is because he would have looked good to Doflamingo because Bellamy was defeated by Luffy also Doflamingo might want to pull a Blackbeard which is why he is recruiting pirates i think he wants to take Big mom out because he is most likely a former member of Big mom's crew which is why he was offered the warlord seat also Kid might be Allied with Doflamingo as well and if he captures the mermaid princess he can use sea kings against big mom as well.
According to this.. Everyone in One Piece is working for Doflamingo?
According to this.. Everyone in One Piece is working for Doflamingo?
Nah. Only 80% of everyone is.
@gotta<3OP:
If the underling is mendele, wouldn't it be logic that the superior would be hitler? Anyway, I was just kidding.
…No, it wouldn't, because Oda isn't entirely subservient to things he draws influence from. Oda's telling his own story. And does CC seem like the kind of guy who has a superior...?
…No, it wouldn't, because Oda isn't entirely subservient to things he draws influence from. Oda's telling his own story. And does CC seem like the kind of guy who has a superior…?
Strangely enough, yes.
…No, it wouldn't, because Oda isn't entirely subservient to things he draws influence from. Oda's telling his own story. And does CC seem like the kind of guy who has a superior…?
He obviously has a superior because he had to get "permission to kill".
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v60/c664/7.html
@krule274:
He obviously has a superior because he had to get "permission to kill".
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v60/c664/7.html
Did you even read the rest of that panel…?
All that means is that he's got somebody cooperating with him in the G5 unit to cover up any kidnappings he commits.
That possibly shoddy translation doesn't imply any kind of superior-subordinate dynamic, at all.
Clown seems to me to just be a deranged scientist, obsessed with being superior to Vegapunk ("I'll show them who's the world's leading scientist", etc.). He doesn't strike me at all as taking orders from somebody.
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Also, irrelevant, but I gotta say, out of the four switched-bodies Straw Hats, Nami-Franky (Frankmi?) is absolutely the weirdest looking.
Maybe.. It's Johnny and Yosaku who's the joker?
Ussop has been top notch ever since the timeskip. This chapter proves once more that he has grown to become highly reliable and versatile
I'd buy that Doflamingo is Caribou's superior, but he doesn't have any sway over G5's actions.
Not over G5 but giving Caesar Clown permission to wipe them out and making it look like an accident sounds like a rogue faction of the WG or a corrupt Shichibukai
As for Doflamingo being everyone's superior he owned an auction house, and controlled a pirate crew. He seems like he has a wide network of underlings. I doubt Kid is working for him because Kid is like a villainous Luffy, wants to be Pirate King but will kill innocent people to do it, he'd refuse any type of help. Though I was surprised Law is under Caesar, but it's probably because his crew is in jeopardy so he is working with him for now.
Not over G5 but giving Caesar Clown permission to wipe them out and making it look like an accident sounds like a rogue faction of the WG or a corrupt Shichibukai
It needs to be somebody with access to Marine reports (the children kidnapping reports are all changed to shipwrecking accidents reports), something that I really doubt Doflamingo has.
@Sonic:
Maybe.. It's Johnny and Yosaku who's the joker?
Those brilliant bastards are everywhere. Really underestimated them.
It needs to be somebody with access to Marine reports (the children kidnapping reports are all changed to shipwrecking accidents reports), something that I really doubt Doflamingo has.
That's true but considering he got away with owning a massive human auction house, I think getting info shouldn't be too hard. Also remember when BB was a Shichibukai he got to Impel Down very easily. Hancock also got to go to the 'non-existent' level 6. Odds are he wouldn't go through the trouble, but he could own the newspaper like he did the auction house and have access to the info the same way Hancock & BB had access to Impel Down.
Smoker deducts that the person covering those kidnappings is from G-5 itself, so it can't be Doflamingo.
And I really doubt the WG would allow a former pirate to have control over the local print media.
Smoker deducts that the person covering those kidnappings is from G-5 itself, so it can't be Doflamingo.
And I really doubt the WG would allow a former pirate to have control over the local print media.
crocodile was hailed as a hero until luffy showed up, so you really never know.
crocodile was hailed as a hero until luffy showed up, so you really never know.
War Lords were always praised as hero's in their own countries and feared in others. It was only in Alabasta that he was depicted as such. I'd be extremely surprised if Flamingo was the Joker. No way.
The Joker is Brook since he likes to make jokes.
crocodile was hailed as a hero until luffy showed up, so you really never know.
There's a substantial difference between being an influential figure in a peaceful country of Paradise and being privy to Marine reports and communications in the foremost battleground between Marines and pirates (that being the New World). Joker is almost definitely not Doflamingo.
Let's be honest…Doflamingo will probably end up being one of One Piece's strongest and most (influentially) powerful characters when his 'true scope' is revealed. However, even though I suspect Doflamingo is behind a lot of things, I know he can't be behind everything--such as the events taking place on Punk Hazard. It's unlikely, but, you never know. (Many people said Akainu and Aokiji never fought on Punk Hazard and people saying they did were crazy; you saw how that turned out).
I don't doubt you that they COULD be clubs. But guns can have wooden stocks, making it look as if they are clubs.
I could get into reasons why I don't think they look much like guns, but it's easier to just wait for the next chapter.
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@The:
Strangely enough, yes.
With all the ridiculous theories in this thread connected by absolutely nothing but a single word here or there, I am amazed that almost nobody is making a parallel between Hogback and CC.
I could get into reasons why I don't think they look much like guns, but it's easier to just wait for the next chapter.
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With all the ridiculous theories in this thread connected by absolutely nothing but a single word here or there, I am amazed that almost nobody is making a parallel between Hogback and CC.
Though if CC IS working with anyone, I think it would be a Yonko not a Shichibukai. The only Shichibukai I could see him working for is Doflamingo.
@The:
Though if CC IS working with anyone, I think it would be a Yonko not a Shichibukai.
A Yonko would have even LESS to do with G5 than a Shichi.
A Yonko would have even LESS to do with G5 than a Shichi.
I'm not saying Joker = Yonko, I'm saying Joker = Yonko crew member who infiltrated the Marines/World Government. If CC is indeed working for a Yonko.
Doflamingo will get an arc, and a big one i believe it, since the very beggining i believe in that, he is one of the most influential character in One Piece World indeed.
He exceeded the simple term of "Shichibukai", but if he will appear in this arc as "Joker" ? I don't believe it, but i recognize that someone with the influence that he has can easily talk with the Marine to cover the kidnapping.
I'm hoping this will be a Chopper heavy arc myself. Unlike Hogback and his Zombies, this is something that Chopper must dive into completely as the issue isn't Devil Fruit related and the patients aren't already dead. Seeing him get so emotional gives me hope that Chopper will be the MVP this arc. Oh how I would love for Chopper to take at least one swing to Caeser and connecting with him. If only because Chopper already has a personal grudge against this doctor abusing his duties and maybe to see if he has Haki or not.
This arc didn't seem like it would last too long, but now we could be in for a long wait before everything is said and done. I could certainly see our 6th person chapter emerging from this and even Smoker getting one step closer to Admiral status after rescuing the children and smoking out the Joker from G5.
Then we have Law's crew who are certainly wrapped up in all this, so we will probably be here for a while. Hope something takes place at the fire side once again.
Really interested to see how Sanji is going to handle himself in Nami's body. His Shadow did well as Denguin, but I can't imagine Nami could even withstand her own powerful kicks, not to mention she is no where near as flexible as Sanji. He could do his splits and pull a muscle! Hahaha not going to happen though, too much of a realistic, unnecessary issue.
Usopp and a non-pop green. Cool. People love to complain and hate to praise.
I'm hoping this will be a Chopper heavy arc myself. Unlike Hogback and his Zombies, this is something that Chopper must dive into completely as the issue isn't Devil Fruit related and the patients aren't already dead. Seeing him get so emotional gives me hope that Chopper will be the MVP this arc. Oh how I would love for Chopper to take at least one swing to Caeser and connecting with him. If only because Chopper already has a personal grudge against this doctor abusing his duties and maybe to see if he has Haki or not.
This arc didn't seem like it would last too long, but now we could be in for a long wait before everything is said and done. I could certainly see our 6th person chapter emerging from this and even Smoker getting one step closer to Admiral status after rescuing the children and smoking out the Joker from G5.
Then we have Law's crew who are certainly wrapped up in all this, so we will probably be here for a while. Hope something takes place at the fire side once again.
Really interested to see how Sanji is going to handle himself in Nami's body. His Shadow did well as Denguin, but I can't imagine Nami could even withstand her own powerful kicks, not to mention she is no where near as flexible as Sanji. He could do his splits and pull a muscle! Hahaha not going to happen though, too much of a realistic, unnecessary issue.
Usopp and a non-pop green. Cool. People love to complain and hate to praise.
Usopp is Doraemon now, nothing he pulls out of his 4 dimensional pocket will surprise me
I'm hoping this will be a Chopper heavy arc myself. Unlike Hogback and his Zombies, this is something that Chopper must dive into completely as the issue isn't Devil Fruit related and the patients aren't already dead. Seeing him get so emotional gives me hope that Chopper will be the MVP this arc. Oh how I would love for Chopper to take at least one swing to Caeser and connecting with him. If only because Chopper already has a personal grudge against this doctor abusing his duties and maybe to see if he has Haki or not.
I agree to the extent that Chopper should take the "MVP" for this arc but having him connect a blow to CC is quite a stretch, IMO. CC must have Haki himself, for 2 reasons:
This arc didn't seem like it would last too long, but now we could be in for a long wait before everything is said and done. I could certainly see our 6th person chapter emerging from this and even Smoker getting one step closer to Admiral status after rescuing the children and smoking out the Joker from G5.
Whatever happens in this arc, you can be assured that it will be the Straw Hats that will save the day: this includes rescuing the children and Smoker's heart, changing the 4 with changed personalities, defeating CC and helping Law with whatever the reason he's there "working" with CC. Ofc, It will be Smoker who takes the "blame" for this …
Then we have Law's crew who are certainly wrapped up in all this, so we will probably be here for a while. Hope something takes place at the fire side once again.
Judging by Law's expressions (think of Hachi when he was asking the Straw Hats to "not do a single thing" against the Tenryuubito (SP?), even if someone were to be shot right in front of them), and the fact that we have yet to see Law's crew, it stands to reason the 2 are connected.
Really interested to see how Sanji is going to handle himself in Nami's body. His Shadow did well as Denguin, but I can't imagine Nami could even withstand her own powerful kicks, not to mention she is no where near as flexible as Sanji. He could do his splits and pull a muscle! Hahaha not going to happen though, too much of a realistic, unnecessary issue.
Agreed: not going to happen.
Usopp and a non-pop green. Cool. People love to complain and hate to praise.
Agree also.
@HTC:
- this is the New World and most notorious pirates have haki: think of what Pekoms said about logias when he took out Caribou (or is it Coribou??)
- If he didn't have haki, Law would have already taken action against him, IMO.
probably belongs in the dumb predictions thread but i'm going with a shot in the dark and say law's crew accidentally got poisoned from somewhere CC had been before and law is milking him for antidotes :3
- But Caesar isn't a pirate. He's a scientist, not a fighter, so I really doubt he is a good enough physical fighter to have acquired Haki. He's probably going to rely on his gases and maybe some sort of high-tech weapon.
- I don't really understand this point. We still don't know the details of their cooperation so you can't say that Law is wanting to backstab him or not.
But he has a bounty. Because of the way Law handled Smoker, i'm pretty sure Law would lose to CC if he were to fight him now.
Again, judging by Law's facial expressions, i'm 100% sure he's working with CC against his will.
Law said so himself: "We both have things we want to get back". The fact that his crew is nowhere to be seen leads most of us to believe that CC did something to them as that's why he's cooperating with CC.
@HTC:
But he has a bounty. Because of the way Law handled Smoker, i'm pretty sure Law would lose to CC if he were to fight him now.
He has a bounty because he caused the huge explosion that spread poison gas on PH years earlier, is a leading expert on mass murder weapons, when apprehended was able to escape custody and on top of all that he's a Logia DF user.
You can have a high bounty and not be a fighter or have Haki either. I mean Robin got a 90 Million Bounty just for existing.
He has a bounty because he caused the huge explosion that spread poison gas on PH years earlier, is a leading expert on mass murder weapons, when apprehended was able to escape custody and on top of all that he's a Logia DF user.
You can have a high bounty and not be a fighter or have Haki either. I mean Robin got a 90 Million Bounty just for existing.
Seeing what he's doing, do you honestly believe Law would cooperate with him @ all if he could take him out?
@HTC:
But he has a bounty. Because of the way Law handled Smoker, i'm pretty sure Law would lose to CC if he were to fight him now.
Uh… what? Law defeated Smoker. He is able to handle Logias.
@HTC:
Seeing what he's doing, do you honestly believe Law would cooperate with him @ all if he could take him out?
In a hostage situation, any smart person would cooperate, regardless of the hostage taker's strength.
@HTC:
Seeing what he's doing, do you honestly believe Law would cooperate with him @ all if he could take him out?
Do you really think that we as readers have close to enough knowledge about;
Law's morality
Anything about CC
Law's crew
Either of their Strength
to make any kind of judgment on this?
Uh… what? Law defeated Smoker. He is able to handle Logias.
In a hostage situation, any smart person would cooperate, regardless of the hostage taker's strength.
Handle Logias: really? Then he should have no problem against Akainu, for example …
Do you really think that we as readers have close to enough knowledge about;
Law's morality
Anything about CC
Law's crew
Either of their Strengthto make any kind of judgment on this?
What was shown thus far leads me to conclude Law wouldn't work with CC if he had a choice.
I agree that there's (allot??) more to this then what was shown and thus i may change my opinion but, for now, i'll stick to what i said earlier in this topic.
Uh… what? Law defeated Smoker. He is able to handle Logias.
Which means Law definitely needs Caesar for something OR Caesar is stronger than Smoker OR Caesar knows about Law's DF weaknesses from studying w/ Vegapunk. Law hated working with Kid at the auction house, of all of the SNs Law/Kid/Luffy were the ones least likely to help someone to the detriment of their search for One Piece
@HTC:
Handle Logias: really? Then he should have no problem against Akainu, for example …
Akainu is in a different league from Smoker. We saw Akainu handle BOTH Marco and Vista's haki in the war.! ![](http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/mangas/One Piece/574 - Portgas D. Ace Dies/One_Piece-v59-013.png)
We do know Smoker can use haki as well, however, he got beat by Law.
@HTC:
Handle Logias: really? Then he should have no problem against Akainu, for example …
Akainu is in a different league from Smoker. We saw Akainu handle BOTH Marco and Vista's haki in the war.
! [qimg]http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/mangas/One Piece/574 - Portgas D. Ace Dies/One_Piece-v59-013.png[/qimg]
We do know Smoker can use haki as well, however, he got beat by Law.
My point exactly.