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People already started guessing the last Shichibukai? I go with Rob Lucci.
Isn't the last Shichibukai the guy who cut off Z's arm?
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People already started guessing the last Shichibukai? I go with Rob Lucci.
Isn't the last Shichibukai the guy who cut off Z's arm?
Great idea otherwise, but why doesn't Buggy just threaten the island with his own crew and take all the money for himself?
If he did that he would go after Shanks.. Buggy doesn't seem to be the guy to go after random people.. he needs a good reason .
I'm thinking Ace's fruit will make Luffy feel conflicted, which would be a whole new dimension to his character. On the one hand, it's just a fruit, who cares!? On the other hand… It's _Ace'_s fruit.
People are saying Luffy wont care about the fruit. But the fruit is something that belonged to Ace, he probably doesnt want someone like Doflamingo to have a remnant of Ace's legacy in his possession. I'm pretty damn sure that Luffy will care when he finds out.
They thought that Luffy would reject Law's offer and they also thought that Luffy would never want to fight Shanks,turns out they were dead wrong.That's exactly why I try to ignore ithe things these people spew out.They think they know Luffy better than the author,but in actuality they just want the story to roll their way.
That's…a great idea. I wonder who thought this up for him? Alvida? Galdino?
perhaps mr.2..he is a shrewd one…
it goes against Luffy's character to eat a fruit for getting higher power….rather i can see him picking up a random fruit and eat it without a second thought;but the fruit is actually a DF....
so this case(regarding Ace's fruit) is not happening.
He wants to beat all the yonkous, which includes Shanks
What if the Mera Mera fruit that Dofla has is an artificial one and he created it purely to use as bait?
Funny how some people think that a logia devil fruit will make you stronger than a good Haki user…
It will only give you some new abilities (flying/digging...etc) it doesn't make you more powerful than Haki users
oh yay so mention of absalom. Does this mean he's no longer a pirate? Or is this just a vergo thing but for moriah. I wonder if this will be of any importance later on
let's see.
! when the strawhats, heart pirates and kid/apoo/kins alliance confront big mam, absalom will be the there (but he's not really there) to cover the fight, then just as the fight is heating up, nami will accidentally bring the vivre card from lola out. thus, big mom will turn out to be luffy's ally in the end.
! now big mom, will ask help from luffy to locate his other daughter, jewelrey bonney since she akainu is tracking bonney down.
! "a big scoop!!!" from absalom and he rushes out big mom's lair to spread the news: lola comes and rapes absalom much worse than what she did to him at thriller bark. LMAO.
That row of rabbit-like things in the sea freaks me out…
prolly monet was following them. that's monet's snow rabbits. LOL
or most probably just another weird occurence at new world.
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I have a bad feeling about the mera-mera.
I hope the fruit won't be eaten by Luffy just to power him up.
I know he's not supposed to do that because otherwise he "should" die.
But it wouldn't be teh first one we get that kind of crap (with some crappy explanation) in other manga.
If hope the author of this one, won't do that.Moreover: why would Luffy be interested in the fruit? He was attached to the brother, not the fruit. And most time he spent with him, Ace didn't even have the fruit.
I don't see a reason for being attached to the fruit..
you could say that, but its still what ace's identity was. so there's a chance luffy might care for the fruit…its an important fruit that came from an important character...so i doubt luffy would just shrug it off. it was shown and was part of doflamingo's plan, so it will definitely play an important role later on.
i do agree with you though that luffy SHOULD NOT eat ace's fruit. it would be terrible.
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oh yay so mention of absalom. Does this mean he's no longer a pirate? Or is this just a vergo thing but for moriah. I wonder if this will be of any importance later on
let's see.
! when the strawhats, heart pirates and kid/apoo/kins alliance confront big mam, absalom will be the there (but he's not really there) to cover the fight, then just as the fight is heating up, nami will accidentally bring the vivre card from lola out. thus, big mom will turn out to be luffy's ally in the end.
! now big mom, will ask help from luffy to locate his other daughter, jewelrey bonney since she akainu is tracking bonney down.
! "a big scoop!!!" from absalom and he rushes out big mom's lair to spread the news: lola comes and rapes absalom much worse than what she did to him at thriller bark. LMAO.
To the people who think Luffy will take the fruit to Ace's grave, do you honeslty think Oda just wont have somebody eat it?
Besides I can't see them carrying around the Mera Mera no mi for God knows how long it will
take them to reach Ace/WB's grave.
Imo Oda brought the fruit back for a particular reason.
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What if the Mera Mera fruit that Dofla has is an artificial one and he created it purely to use as bait?
artifical fruit have a different pattern than the real ones.
plus the smiles are zoan type fruit,not logias
Why is there almost no talk about the genius plan of Law? Telling Smoker he is going to Greenbit –> Smoker informing Akainu --> Akainu sends FujiTora (probably new admiral). Now, he tells Doflamingo that he will drop CC at greenbit --> Dofla going to Greenbit --> Dofla meeting Admiral --> Fight on?!
And of course, with the major power at Dressrosa gone, it will be much easier to locate and destroy the lab. And we all know a fight on that level can take a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
If DD uses the fruit in combination with mockery of Ace, i see Luffy getting quite angry about it actually.
Angry but it wouldn't distract him from his goals and protecting his friends. My point is that there are more important things for Luffy.
OmGAWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD BONNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is there almost no talk about the genius plan of Law? Telling Smoker he is going to Greenbit –> Smoker informing Akainu --> Akainu sends FujiTora (probably new admiral). Now, he tells Doflamingo that he will drop CC at greenbit --> Dofla going to Greenbit --> Dofla meeting Admiral --> Fight on?!
Haha, if that really happens, i would laugh my ass off. If i remember correctly, part of the deal between Smoker and Law was that the former has to keep quiet about DD.
Angry but it wouldn't distract him from his goals and protecting his friends. My point is that there are more important things for Luffy.
That´s why DD´s plan will probably fail. I never said that Luffy will discard Law and his crew mates for the fruit but some people here act like Luffy would not give a fuck at all with which i completely disagree.
To the people who think Luffy will take the fruit to Ace's grave, do you honeslty think Oda just wont have somebody eat it? Besides I can't see them carrying around the Mera Mera no mi for God knows how long it will take them to reach Ace/WB's grave. Imo Oda brought the fruit back for a particular reason.
That's what I was thinking.There would be no point in introducing it only for it to serve no purpose.
Luffy might want the Mera Mera no mi depending on how doflamingo got it. We still don't know how they regenerate if no fruit's around. Either that or Doffy just doesn't know Luffy.
That's what I was thinking.There would be no point in introducing it only for it to serve no purpose.
People will deny it til the end, but one of the SH just really might eat this thing.
Intentional or accidental is the only question at this point.
Haha, if that really happens, i would laugh my ass off. If i remember correctly, part of the deal between Smoker and Law was that the former has to keep quiet about DD.
Would make sense, seeing how Akainu talks about not letting Law and Luffy having it their way. So maybe even Fujitora thinks that they will be at Green Bit, but in the end it is Dofla. Would be funny indeed, but I really do see it happening.
They thought that Luffy would reject Law's offer and they also thought that Luffy would never want to fight Shanks,turns out they were dead wrong.That's exactly why I try to ignore ithe things these people spew out.They think they know Luffy better than the author,but in actuality they just want the story to roll their way.
Luffy doesn't want to fight Shanks . . .
Luffy doesn't want to fight Shanks . . .
He already stated he wants to defeat all the Yonkou, which includes Shanks. So yes, he does want to fight him, just not as the first Yonkou they tackle.
**So… Fujitora = new Admiral, which translates to Purple Tiger.
What do you guys think the last new Admiral will be called?
Akainu is the Red Dog
Aokiji is the Blue Pheasant
Kizaru is the Yellow Monkey
Fujitora is the Purple Tiger
Maybe...the Orange Bull (or Turtle)?
Maybe the Green Bull (or Turtle)?**
It's pretty much hinted that he's dead.
But knowing Oda it is very probable that he actually isn't.
Besides that wasn't the point, I was just pointing out something interesting that we missed in the interaction between DD and Smoker so that everybody can have the whole picture… I, for one, hate to miss things like this.
Imo Oda brought the fruit back for a particular reason.
I get what you're saying and I could see it happening that somebody eats it, but for me burying it with Ace seems like a legit option for now.
It already has enough purposes as it is, seemingly:
(1. Bait Luffy and getting him trapped by Doflamingo
~ Partly screwing up the Alliance because Luffy will do stupid shit to try and get it
(2. Get Luffy pissed at Doflamingo
~ Good reason for Luffy to actually fight him. He doesn't seem to have one yet aside from him being Ceasar's boss.
(3. Just to wrap up the fruit and give Ace a final rest.
~ If he didn't show it everybody would wonder (and complain) about why nobody has found it or ate it. This way it really wraps up the fruit.
Uuh I thought I had one more but I'll just edit the post if I think of it.
Also ANOTHER fucking Logia? That's like the fourth we've seen and only after the timeskip…
This is just getting too much. They're supposed to be rare and already take up more than 1/7th of the revealed Fruits.
This should be the last one, ever. Maybe like one more but this is where it needs to end...
That pirate in the panel left of Jinbe looks like Lip Service Daughtry (from the reunion-arc @ SA). Didn't he have the same hair style and shirt?
And the dude next to that guy (we only see his back) looks quite like Croc.
Check this panel and compare it with chapter 0 (where you also see Croc from behind during Roger's execution, though we don't know if he was a girl back then).
since shanks is the special final boss, like it or not, luffy will have to fight him.
People will deny it til the end, but one of the SH just really might eat this thing. Intentional or accidental is the only question at this point.
The way I see it is that if Luffy were to eat it,it would just be the passing of Ace's will on to Luffy.People can say "Oh BB is the only one who can have multiple DF's due to his special body type",but that is contradicted because BB's crew are on a DF hunt,and have stolen multiple abilities.
The way I see it is that if Luffy were to eat it,it would just be the passing of Ace's will on to Luffy.People can say "Oh BB is the only one who can have multiple DF's due to his special body type",but that is contradicted because BB's crew are on a DF hunt,and have stolen multiple abilities.
Ever stopped and think that those DF's might be for his crew and not for BB himself?
I can't wait to see Doflamingo have an Enel reaction when Luffy says he doesn't give a shit about the Mera-Mera no Mi.
The way I see it is that if Luffy were to eat it,it would just be the passing of Ace's will on to Luffy.People can say "Oh BB is the only one who can have multiple DF's due to his special body type",but that is contradicted because BB's crew are on a DF hunt,and have stolen multiple abilities.
That doesn't contradict it, because BB's crew has BB in it.
If One Piece were a regular shonen I'll say that Luffy would end eating Ace's DF and having two powers just like Blackbeard (also Luffy doesnt seem to have improved much his fighting style post time skip and only uses his haki skills when he remembers about them)
But OP is not a regular shonen so I would say there is only a 50% chance of that happening.
I agree with everyone thinking that Luffy will not eat Ace's fruit. What I don't agree with is people saying that Luffy wont give a crap about that fruit. In other series it may happen, but definitely not in One Piece. Every character in here is sentimental, and feels that what the dead left behind is important… they wont settle for memories in their hearts. And this is Luffy we're talking about, a guy who'll go against impossible odds for some random guy. So I think Doflamingo got it right, Luffy will go great lengths to get his hands on that fruit. Why? Because it is Ace's damn fruit!
I would not like it if Dofla could get the psychology of Luffy just because he met him once at MarineFord. Luffy always does unexpected things, I expect him to surprise Dofla big time with this DF.
Luffy doesn't want to fight Shanks . . .
During the talk with Law,Luffy said "So Shanks isn't up first…?Not that the order really matters,I plan on wiping the floor with all four of them!!"
Yeesh, I can't help but imagine someone starting this manga on this chapter. They'd be so confused, and frankly a lot of the chapters just look ugly here–new and old. This chapter was crowded with characters and new bits of information. Good information though, I'm looking forward to any of these plot threads being expanded on. I just hope the next chapter picks one and sticks with it for awhile. This chapter was nice, but we need less like this. Please focus on Dressrosa for awhile!
That doesn't contradict it, because BB's crew has BB in it.
Why are you so desperate to deny it?
Something will happen with the fruit is all I know.
Luffy wont just shake it off. That's what people are praying for.
Oda is not the type to do things without reason.
At the end of the day people One Piece is a Shounen.
Gotta make piece with that some how.
Something will happen with the fruit is all I know.
Luffy wont just shake it off. That's what people are praying for.
Oda is not the type to do things without reason.At the end of the day people One Piece is a Shounen.
Gotta make piece with that some how.
I don´t agree with you on Luffy eating it but i definitely agree with this post. Luffy will not just shrug it off, the fruit will probably have a sentimental value for him. Of course it will not go as DD plans, either, since Luffy would never betray his friends and crew mates for an object.
I don´t agree with you on Luffy eating it but i definitely agree with this post. Luffy will not just shrug it off, the fruit will probably have a sentimental value for him. Of course it will not go as DD plans, either, since Luffy would never betray his friends and crew mates for an object.
Imo It doesn't HAVE to be Luffy, I think Sanji would benefit the most from it,
but still the notion that people are having about this not being that "type" of Shounen is laughable to say the least.
This IS a shounen manga,and if Oda wanted to give the crew or Luffy himself a power up through a devil fruit it would be
extremely in the realm of possibility. Especially with everything thats happened with BB.
Let me just ask, did you or do you honestly think Luffy will defeat BB with only Rubber + Haki?
This fruit thing will only piss Luffy off , it just depends on how DD will confront him with it.
Quick question.
What DD wants in exchange for the Mera Mera no Mi?
Who else found it suspicious that Law said he's never been to Dressrosa? There's no way he's telling the truth.
I'm telling you:
Tournament arc !
Diamante is setting it up !
In the Colloseum !
Prize is Mera Mera no mi !
Every manga has a tournament arc sooner or later, and the Foxy games don't count. One with real fights and honest rules (according to pirates)
Oh and everybody who doesn't speak Spanish, please don't be a smart ass with google translator, just listen to the guys who actually speak it.
Isn't the last Shichibukai the guy who cut off Z's arm?
I was out of OP world for a couple months, so I am not aware of any side chapters. Did Oda made a chapter for Z like he did for Shiki?
Doflamingo: …Vergo's dead, and you know it!! // It looks like you've learned a little too much…!!!
Actually, reading the whole line ("it looks like you've learned a little too much"), it doesn't sound like this dead is litteral, but meaning he is finished (as a Marine).
Like: You guys found Vergo's true identity already, now he can no longer work as my spy inside the Marine and you know it.
@Kyoji:
Quick question.
What DD wants in exchange for the Mera Mera no Mi?
16 characters of Law?
@Kyoji:
Quick question.
What DD wants in exchange for the Mera Mera no Mi?
Lol. like we know xD
We have yet to see his full intentions. He probably wants to lure luffy and / or screw up the StrawHeart alliance.
I'm telling you:
Tournament arc !
I don't mind the idea, but I don't think Oda would do something so common…...or would he?
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I was out of OP world for a couple months, so I am not aware of any side chapters. Did Oda made a chapter for Z like he did for Shiki?
Nope, but I know it was stated somewhere in the movie's thread.