who's made a good gigantic post about how and why these chapters were so terrible
Naruto and Bleach: Let's put this thread to bed I
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Chapters like this is propably the reason why he hasn't
Kubo sensei, i have a few dozens things I don't quite understand about the fullbringer plot, as well as some alternative plans they could have used that makes a lot more sense…
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It would be funny if Kubo had his own SBS.
I'm sure most of the questions would end in Kubo telling the readers to drink rain water, eat dust and sit in the corner.
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@The:
The amount of plotholes, contortion of logic and sheer awful writing is causing problems to spawn in my brain at an unprecedented rate, simply too many to list or even comprehend at once. I've started going through this arc again to get the whole scope of it, and have uncovered at least one completely impossible event.
What ? Tell me, I must know ! :O
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You know, it might just be me but, I wish Naruto and Bleach were like… still good. :/ Odd, right?
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I like this thread. Dunno if I'll hang out here since I've once again cut behind in reading Blearuto, but I do like it.
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@No:
Good stuff is like so last season.
All the cool kids read Fairy Tail and Samurai Deeper Kyo now !
Yeah! Fuck FMA, Berserk, and HxH! We do have to read One Piece though because it's super popular, which is a shame because Oda's imaginative and well designed locales can never compare to Kubo's vast amounts of **air!!!** What are Japanese kids thinking?
My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.
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Oh, look! Ridiculous NarutoxIchigo fanart.
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@The:
Oh, and regarding Naruto, I still wonder if the Crow has now used its once in a decade power, and is thus now completely useless and irrelevant.
Yeah, but you can use it whenever you want if you have Hashirama's chakra, which I think Naruto, because that makes 10 fucking barrels of sense because of the monkey and the chihuahua and the banana-nator and oh my goodness, there goes my brain.
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Well, looks like the stupid fullbring idea got abandoned and this arc might end soon.
I-it's n-not like I liked this week's Bleach chapter or a-anything.
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What's funny is that Kubo fucking just realize that the fullbring was fucking retarded and said… well plan b lets give him back his real powers and screw this fullbring shit. Maybe my ratings will go back up again.
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I'm going to have the most painful migraine if Bleach's ratings go back up to the top 5 or 3 because of this chapter.
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What's funny is that Kubo fucking just realize that the fullbring was fucking retarded and said… well plan b lets give him back his real powers and screw this fullbring shit. Maybe my ratings will go back up again.
Kubo didn't realize anything, I strongly think that he found all of this great and genius stuff, but then he saw the ratings…...
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Why is Bleach still ongoing? So what happens next after Ichigo gets his powers? Another Rescue Arc?
Next week the meteor destroys everything.
7 years later a boy staring at the sea.
Konohamaru's adventure begins.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it did climb the ratings again. It should have been canceled since the time the chapters got so short you could literally read them in a minute.
But it didn't because it somehow gathered a pretty big fandom and managed to keep it despite all the stupid twists, white backgrounds and terrible character designs. -
God damn. This place is a mess…
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Even though the FB arc was total horseshit, I have no respect when an author hits abort on an arc like this when the public opinion shifts. I can understand wanting to start over with a clean slate again and pushing the mistakes away, but hitting the hyperdrive like this just blasts the arc into an even worse state than before and leaves it a SW prequel class of Loose End Count
Random thoughts:
So Ishida was attacked by Ginjo all along. Nope, not buying it Kubo. When Shuu-chan jumps into Ishidas face theres a blurry line beneath him- are you saying that’s not a swiftly drawn blade? Are you saying the fuzzy line is Ginjo? Also, notice how Shuu-chan passes right by Ishidas right side. Then, right afterwards, Ginjo comes flying towards him, also on the right side, where Ishida should be looking already. How did he fucking not notice him?
And boy is this the weirdest ambush ever. “Hey dude, I got an idea! You go walking around on that rooftop there, above Ichigos home. Then, his friend can’t help but follow you! Then, suddenly, you surprise him by doing a 180 directly into his face, only you don’t actually attack. That’s when I, waiting on the streets, seize my chance to jump up and attack!”
“Uh, couldn’t I just attack when I surprise him? I could just, you know, not brainwash him, just cut him. That way I’ll be the only villain, and it minimizes risk-
“Dude that’s like, wayyyyy too boring. My plans much better”And what the hell is up with the line “sheesh, this is one of Kurosakis friends, right?”
What?! You mean you didn’t know? You just thought you were roughing up some random dude who stalked Shuu-chans rooftop reading stroll? The thing that set the whole damn arc in motion was pure fucking chance!?! -
Why is Bleach still ongoing? So what happens next after Ichigo gets his powers? Another Rescue Arc?
I bet Ichigo's sisters get kidnapped by X random character and held hostage in X random dimension, where Ichigo and the gang have to go and fight X amount of overpowered baddies.
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@Kareem:
Yeah! Fuck FMA, Berserk, and HxH! We do have to read One Piece though because it's super popular, which is a shame because Oda's imaginative and well designed locales can never compare to Kubo's vast amounts of **air!!!** What are Japanese kids thinking?
Also, reply I was not notified of.
Seriously, it works even less now.
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@No:
Also, reply I was not notified of.
Seriously, it works even less now.
I totally know what you mean. There've been several times where I've been quoted and the Notifications didn't tell me. Someone's really got to fix that.
My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it did climb the ratings again. It should have been canceled since the time the chapters got so short you could literally read them in a minute.
But it didn't because it somehow gathered a pretty big fandom and managed to keep it despite all the stupid twists, white backgrounds and terrible character designs.It should have ended after Ichigo lost all his powers after the Aizen fight. He can go back to being the top thug at school with a heart of gold.
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@Kareem:
I totally know what you mean. There've been several times where I've been quoted and the Notifications didn't tell me. Someone's really got to fix that.
I think you only get notified of quotes when your online, not off. I don't know 100% I haven't been paying attention. But that's the pattern I've noticed. Were you notified of this?
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Ok. I do know what Naruto manga is. And it does get more shitty after the time skip. But what I don't know, is why you guys say bad things about Bleach. I mean, I know Felch, Felch is a horrible manga. But Bleach? Bleach was really nice, it's sad it had only 6 volumes, and then this Felch came.
So please, don't mix Bleach with Felch. Let's just admit that there are two manga titles. Because NO manga can get THIS bad. It must be another new series. Really, if someone told me that Felch was a part of Bleach - I wouldn't know what to do.
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@The:
Even though the FB arc was total horseshit, I have no respect when an author hits abort on an arc like this when the public opinion shifts. I can understand wanting to start over with a clean slate again and pushing the mistakes away, but hitting the hyperdrive like this just blasts the arc into an even worse state than before and leaves it a SW prequel class of Loose End Count
Random thoughts:
So Ishida was attacked by Ginjo all along. Nope, not buying it Kubo. When Shuu-chan jumps into Ishidas face theres a blurry line beneath him- are you saying that’s not a swiftly drawn blade? Are you saying the fuzzy line is Ginjo? Also, notice how Shuu-chan passes right by Ishidas right side. Then, right afterwards, Ginjo comes flying towards him, also on the right side, where Ishida should be looking already. How did he fucking not notice him?
And boy is this the weirdest ambush ever. “Hey dude, I got an idea! You go walking around on that rooftop there, above Ichigos home. Then, his friend can’t help but follow you! Then, suddenly, you surprise him by doing a 180 directly into his face, only you don’t actually attack. That’s when I, waiting on the streets, seize my chance to jump up and attack!”
“Uh, couldn’t I just attack when I surprise him? I could just, you know, not brainwash him, just cut him. That way I’ll be the only villain, and it minimizes risk-
“Dude that’s like, wayyyyy too boring. My plans much better”And what the hell is up with the line “sheesh, this is one of Kurosakis friends, right?”
What?! You mean you didn’t know? You just thought you were roughing up some random dude who stalked Shuu-chans rooftop reading stroll? The thing that set the whole damn arc in motion was pure fucking chance!?!Also, I want to know who payed their special telephone operator and where they are.
Because they're my favourite character in this arc.
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It should have ended after Ichigo lost all his powers after the Aizen fight. He can go back to being the top thug at school with a heart of gold.
Oh, right. Actually, yes, that would have been a perfect place to end it. The funny thing is he planned to have it run for like another 10 years and now it's in the bottom five of the list.
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I simply love this exchange and its incompetence.
"We shouldn't brainwash Ishida" Thats right Ginjo, you can't do that because
"Because that would be boring" NO THATS NOT WHY YOU TRAVESTY OF A FICTIONAL BEING
If you brainwashed Ishida he would return without physical injuries, and with a weird new friend. You NEED to have him injured.
Otherwise, you.
Have.
No.
Plan.
EVERYTHING hinges on Ichigo being so worried about his friends that he'll go to completely untrustworthy strangers to get powers.It's a good thing Ichigo has the intelligence of stale oatmeal, otherwise these guys would accomplish nada.
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The funny thing about Bleach is that, Kubo can really make it last 10 more years. Or 15. Or 20.
It doesn't have a fucking purpose, or direction, or goal, or anything. Powerfull characters like this Fullbringers where living among the rest of the Karakura Town people, more or less like the Vizards before, so why the hell can't he create even more diferent groups of "badasses with strange powers that Ichigo can learn"? And create new random bosses? And new random powers/transformations? The Bleach world logic has been gone for so long, now it's only asspulls.
Kubo can drag, stall, asspull, and do wathever he wants with his series, cause it has no ending. Oh, the ratings you say? Kubo has a wild card, it's called the Shinigami/Urahara/Papa Ishin card, and it works wonders. What, not enough? Bring in the Shrimpo. Need more? Aizen. Rangiku and boobs. Rinse and repeat.
I'll be so gladly surprised if the japanese kids don't buy that Shinigami shit plot twist and keep punishing Kubo in the ratings and Tankobon sales (as Aohige said, they're dropping quite significantly) and ultimately force Kubo to renounce that 10 more years madness, but these are the same kids that love Naruto to death and back, and constantly rank Sasuke as their favourite character, so fuck it.
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I wonder if Kubo will go as far to make the other Fullbringers illusions or something.
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They will all be villain except the NotPerona because shipping and yuri.
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Next week the meteor destroys everything.
7 years later a boy staring at the sea.
Konohamaru's adventure begins.
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You know what I fear? That if Kubo get's canceled, he will start to draw Bleach just for himself. And send it to everyone everywhere. Because he needs to tell this story. He needs us to know how awesome he is, how his black glasses (in a room) are cool and hip.
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Didn't No Maam post the comic preceding that?
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@Sniper:
Didn't No Maam post the comic preceding that?
That wasn't me.
Also HOW DARE YOU ?!
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@Sniper:
Didn't No Maam post the comic preceding that?
Oh I didn't know. Just saw the image on Google.
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Can someone please post more of the "Adventures or Kubo & Kishi" comics? I actually find them pretty funny.
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At this point Bleach is kind of like Beetle Bailey.
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Y'know guys, if Bleach does get cancelled (we can only hope) then I feel pretty confident Kubo will just try again with another series. It's not like he really has a bad reputation with the Jump editorial staff. His series was very popular for years and it made them money. They'll probably let him write another series, happily in fact. Of course there is the possibility that if Bleach does get cancelled (which is starting to become more and more real, though still fairly unlikely) that Kubo will become very depressed. I remember hearing that after Zombie Powder was cancelled he got very depressed and so Bleach was pretty much the opposite of Zombie Powder. ZP had guns, western themes and people died; Bleach has swords, eastern themes and nobody dies in Bleach!!
So if Bleach does get cancelled his next series will be the opposite of Bleach but not the same as Zombie Powder: So I ask you, fine posters of Arlong Park Forums. What is the opposite of Bleach?My Hero Academia is my favorite manga series right now. At least so long as the high of its greatness remains. United States of Smash.
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@Monkey:
At this point Bleach is kind of like Beetle Bailey.
Not familiar with the strip, any specific qualities it has that somehow conect it to Bleach ?
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@Kareem:
So if Bleach does get cancelled his next series will be the opposite of Bleach but not the same as Zombie Powder: So I ask you, fine posters of Arlong Park Forums. What is the opposite of Bleach?
Something that adds colors.
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@Kareem:
So if Bleach does get cancelled his next series will be the opposite of Bleach but not the same as Zombie Powder: So I ask you, fine posters of Arlong Park Forums. What is the opposite of Bleach?
A book of scenic photography ?
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Something with content?
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Actual backgrounds?
Not all side characters being fodder?
A plot?
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@Kareem:
Of course there is the possibility that if Bleach does get cancelled (which is starting to become more and more real, though still fairly unlikely) that Kubo will become very depressed. I remember hearing that after Zombie Powder was cancelled he got very depressed and so Bleach was pretty much the opposite of Zombie Powder
Kubo was depressed before ZP was canceled. I think it was because one of his parents died.
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It's only kept around forever because people are used to it.
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I figure Family Circus would be the better example for newspaper comics.
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@No:
Wait, what ?
Pyro, why are you defending Bleach ?
Did you read my whole post or just the first paragraph? I'm just saying knocking a chapter with points off for "We don't know why he did this yet!" isn't necessarily fair.
But as Daz said, by the time the readers find out (that is, IF they ever do), it'll be too late to care.
There are plenty of problems with the latest Bleach chapter, I just feel that this isn't one of them.
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I think Hagar the Horrible, Blondie, and Garfield would all be good examples as well.
