Tell you what, when The Incredibles comes out on bluray in a few months. Ill go back and re-watch that vid and ill post if I get a different vibe from it or not.
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Tell you what, when The Incredibles comes out on bluray in a few months. Ill go back and re-watch that vid and ill post if I get a different vibe from it or not.
I just listened to the clip. The entire time she's going on about how COOL it is to be in something her family and friends can understand without being coerced into listening, compared to her "normal boring life." Its pretty enthusiastic, but its with Sarah Vowel's level of monotone and sarcasm, so I guess that might be hard to get for some.
But no, she's most certainly NOT dissing on the movie. SHe's saying its great that normally "boring Sarah" is in something exciting.
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In all honesty I havent seen it since if first came to dvd a few years ago. I remember only bits & pieces and being very annoyed by her. But like I said, ill give you and taboo the benefeit of the doubt and watch it again when the bluray comes out.
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God I want to work for pixar so bad
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God I want to work for pixar so bad
I went to a leadership conference when I was in high school, and one of my two PACs was a former intern gone full-time programmer for Pixar.
He left toward the end of Finding Nemo for a job in the California state government.
You should totally move to California.
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I'll probably end up in California eventually
A&M College Station (the nearest uni closest to mine) churns out a lot of pixar employees (so I hear) but they're mostly programmers
that stuff is really hard. I can code a little java, but I still don't know what the fuck a string really is
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! @RobbyBevard:
! > First.
Newt was shelved because it was having story problems. Its great that they're willing to kill a project that far into development rather than release something sub-par.Second.
Pixar is 11 for 11, and both Toy Story 2 and 3 are among the rare sequels better than the film that came before. Toy Story 3 is one of the first great 3's in movie history, period.There is absolutely no reason to doubt them. They're allowed 3 or 4 total flops in a row before you can even begin to start speculating on it, but their mantra is story first, and the same people that have done the other movies that are great, are doing these movies.
And hey, bring on the sequals. They'll make them gillions of dollars, which then lets them make riskier movies like Ratatoulle, Wall-E, or Up. They never would have gotten away with a movie about cooking, an all silent movie, or a movie about an old man if they hadn't built the clout and the trust. (Monsters Inc is rumored to be a prequel, if that matters any.)
Third.
Cars is the hardest to take of their works because of the world it inhabits is kind of freaky, but its still an incredibly solid movie with great characterization, (and character growth) voice talent, music, visuals, and moments of true beauty and heart, I get choked up at the ending every time. I have no idea what the hell Cars 2 is doing with the spy thing, but I'm going to see it in theaters anyway. Pixar has earned that. (Also, Cars made like a billion dollars in merchandising, so there's your answer to that question.)Fourth.
How the hell can you judge Brave when the ONLY thing we know about it at this point is that its Pixar taking on the fairy tale genre? We have a one sentance summary, there isn't even any promo art yet. Tangled was a Princess movie, and it was fantastic. Fox did Anastasia, and it was a Princess movie, but nothing like a Disney movie. Enchantd was a Princess movie, and it was a total love letter to the genre and it was a lot of fun. Miyazaki does the Princess genre all the time, and those are nothing like Disney princess movies. (Unless you want to tell me Nausicaa and Princess Mononoke are films that match the tone of Cinderella.)I agree with pretty much everything you said, Robby. This was that kind of heat-of-the-moment type thread which should have never seen the light of day, based around the shelving of Newt for Monsters Inc. 2. Either way, thankyou for merging the thread and easily demolishing the notion that Pixar had lost it's mojo.
On your points:
First. if I had dug a little deeper and found out why Newt was shelved, I would have been cool with it. Plus, I guess Rio kind of beat them to the punch with the whole 'last of their kind must mate to protect the future of the species' story. The last thing Pixar needs or deserves is to have one of their films undeservedly called a rip-off. Point taken.
Second. No doubt Pixar films are consitent, and their sequels actually have a good story and are not just crapped out to make more money. You can tell that a lot of effort went in to the creation and execution of their sequels. I still feel like were missing something when Pixar goes the sequel route instead of something original. It's taken them this long to make a string of sequels, you know? Either way, I'm sure the upcoming sequels will be good additions to their respective franchises, I'll definately go see them for all they're worth.
Third. Oh no. I didn't meand to denigrate Cars, it's one of my favourites! I was just observing that it is one of the only Pixar films to get a somewhat frosty reception, which is why I thought a sequel to it would be absurd. Hindsight though, it wasn't really a frosty reception, more lukewarm. Adn the merchandising is still running red hot even now they're churning action figures and activity books out. My nephew loves the Cars franchise, perhaps his unlce can take him along to the sequels when it comes out.
! I actually cried when I first saw the sad song about the highway going past their town and practicalyl taking them off the map. :sad:
Fourth. I really need to stop judging Pixar films before I know them! I did the same to Up, believing that a film about a grumpy old man and a flying house would be dumb. A feature length Geri's Game crossed my mind. In fact, when I saw it recently, it bacame one of my favourite films in their catalogue. Film's got a lot of heart, dammit!
I'll bite my tongue until we see more of Brave. For all I know it could bew the next Tangled. Hell, if Disney can put a unique twist on athe princess genre, I can easily see Pixar doing the same with their fairy tale.
Thankyou and everyone else for slapping a bit of sense into me.
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guys would it be weird to send brad a card for valentines day expressing my love????
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Not at all. Everyone nearly shit themselves when they found out he was going to Pixar for The Incredibles, I was really happy when he came back again for Ratatouille.
I hope for my Ringling experience I'll be able to intern at Pixar, I know it's huge competition to get into the internship, but I hope I'll be able to get in.
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The Incredibles is quite possibly my favorite Pixar Movie, so I'd totally send him one too.
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A small tour of Pixar Studios if this hasn't been posted!
http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/02/10/pixar-studio-tour/@DanialG:
I hope for my Ringling experience I'll be able to intern at Pixar, I know it's huge competition to get into the internship, but I hope I'll be able to get in.
You went to Ringling College of Art?
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No, but I'm applying. I would of been able to go this year, but "complications" on their end deemed my application completely useless.
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@DanialG:
No, but I'm applying. I would of been able to go this year, but "complications" on their end deemed my application completely useless.
Well that sucks. But that's cool you're still applying. I'm going to apply there myself once I get stuff done.
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New Toy Story short to be aired before Cars 2:
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=30271I liked a lot of these new guys, so color me exited. Though I guess this could turn out like yogi Bear, and have an excellent short precede an inferior main piece.
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Why does everyone just start with the assumption that Cars 2 is going to be terrible? Cars was good and had the Pixar quality all over it, (I've come to like it more and more with repeat viewings, it has a LOT of heart in it) good visuals, design, music, pacing, and character development, its just the world most removed from reality, and a lot of Nascar references.
Hell, the commercials so far have only shown the goofy Nater B plot, we don't even know what the actual emotional core of the story is going to be. (And Pixar commercials are usually bad anyway, they have an incredibly hard time encapsulating what the movie is about usually.)
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Yeah this movie at least looks like it's gonna be funny
and maybe there'll be a Brave trailer…??????????
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I don't think It'll be terrible (and by no means Yogi bear levels of terrible), but for me, and plenty others going by rottentomatoes and box office earnings, Cars sits at the bottom of the Pixar movie rankings. It's not a bad movie in any way, just a lot slower and more predictable than the rest. It's a severe case of being spoiled, but when a movie is just "good" rather than "Holy shit awesome instant timeless classic" it automatically becomes the odd man out. And when a sequel is announced for it people expecting an original masterpiece are dissapointed, and anyone who wanted a sequel is pissed that it's not The incredibles, but their least favourite Pixar movie which gets it.
Combine that with the trailers, and I'm not calling it atrocious prematurely, I just have extremely high expectations of Pixar, which Cars 1 didn't fully meet.
Also, Pixar shorts are pretty brilliant, and combining that with Toy Story of all things should assure this pieces' excellence, I think.
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I was convinced I was going to like this movie when they showed Tokyo in the trailer. Looks gorgeous.
It'll be worth it for the visuals if nothing else.
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[/hide]Also, I don't know why everyone is so hot for an Incredibles sequel. I know people think "Well, bigger and better action sequences and more super powers!" but… The first one was perfect.
What else do you with it? What pulls out the same kind of emotion and character arcs that the first one did? It wasn't JUST a superhero movie, that'd be easy to sequel.
It was about a man who wasn't happy with what he was doing, a wife that was unsure about her marriage, about kids that didn't fit in (one that wanted to and one that was shy), and a kid whose hero turned him away. The super powers were window dressing. How do you recapture that with the same characters? You don't. So you have to do something different with them, but... what?
You could age the kids to teenagers and deal with teenager problems, or make Jack Jack older and a threat to the world that they have to protect at all costs, or you could go backwards and show Bob and Helen in their early days (but then no kids, nope) or you could have Frozone run the movie, but... that's just something to do, that's not a reason to do it.
There's nothing else to DO with Incredibles, I think the video games and the comic books that try to follow it up have shown that. You can Darkwing Duck it up and have an ongoing soap opera or random villainy, and further adventures and bigger explosions, and its fun to see the characters interacting again but... that wasn't what it was about, that wasn't why the movie resonated so well. X-Men and Fantastic Four and Superman have run for decades and decades, but how many of them have had a single perfect movie that hits all the right notes? How many have had truly distinctive and memorable stories out of the thousands and thousands of issues that have been told? You can point to about 5 X-Men stories, and say "Yeah, that pretty much covers the entire breadth of what there is to tell about them." (Dark Phoenix, Days of Future Past, and... uh... Wolverine?)
It's not hard to see why Brad Bird hasn't shown any desire to do a second one. He swears they need a good idea first, and I believe it. He's not talking about "we need a monster to face", thats easy. He's talking about "we need 4 strong ideas for all the leads to deal with emotionally, so much so that it demands 2 hours of screen time and 3 years of work." and thats really really hard.
I have a lot of the same fundamental problems with a Monsters Inc. sequel, which is why I hope the rumors of it being a prequel are true.
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@RobbyBevard:
I have a lot of the same fundamental problems with a Monsters Inc. sequel, which is why I hope the rumors of it being a prequel are true.
I still don't see HOW you can do a sequel for Monsters inc. The first one was perfect!!! What more can you do with it?
Though seeing teenage Boo would be something…
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@Thousand:
I still don't see HOW you can do a sequel for Monsters inc. The first one was perfect!!! What more can you do with it?
Though seeing teenage Boo would be something…
Hence my hope that the rumors of it being a PREQUAL are true. At least there's something to play with then.
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Maybe this was posted somewhere before, but I hadn't known a lot of these things….So we could have had Jim Carrey as a sarcastic jerk Woody and Billy Crystal as Buzz, er, Lunar Larry...thank goodness for Pixar having too low of a budget to pay them.
33 Things You Probably Didn’t Know About The ‘Toy Story’ Trilogy
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billy crystal turned it down lol
but he came back for monster's inc
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Yeah, sorry, Billy Crystal turned it down, Jim Carrey was a budget problem. Was he thinking he was worth too much for all the crap he was doing around that time or what.
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. - Frank Zappa
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Yeah, sorry, Billy Crystal turned it down, Jim Carrey was a budget problem. Was he thinking he was worth too much for all the crap he was doing around that time or what.
1- Jim was commanding a 20 mill salary on everything he did at the time.
2-Go back 18 years. There weren't any CGI movies, and while Pixar was a subset of Disney, it wasn't Disney itself. So it was just "We want to do a movie made by computers!" at the time can't have been appealing. At the time cgi animation tended to look really, really BAD.
Then Toy Story actually hit and changed everything.
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It's pretty easy to forget how big of a smash hit Ace Ventura was at the time and how much hype Carrey was receiving for his role on In Living Color.
It may seem odd that one successful movie role, some minor television success, and a former career as a standup could make a person into a major name that could command a massive salary, but that'd already happened a few years before. At the time of Superman III, Richard Pryor was the highest paid actor in Hollywood.
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It was the trifecta of Ace Ventura, Mask, and Dumb and Dumber all in the same year that made Carry a name, all of which made over 100 mill each. (Worldwide Mask made 350 mill!) and this was in 1994 Box Office, back when that was a HUGE hit.
After that he was able to command a 20 mill salary.
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Pixar really does a good job with depth and space in their films. Monsters Inc. with the door rollar coaster is another example of spacious beauty. I can't help but watch the making of the films over and over. Cars 2 looks breath taking.
I'm looking forward to Brave, and any other non-squeals they have for us in the future. They've done a lot already, Toys, Fish, Robots, Bugs, Super Heroes, Cars, Monsters, Rats. Which reminds me, whatever happened to the picture of the boy near the Dinosaur? Was that going to be a Short Film? Or did it just disappear?
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@RobbyBevard:
Also, I don't know why everyone is so hot for an Incredibles sequel. I know people think "Well, bigger and better action sequences and more super powers!" but… The first one was perfect.
A lot of the same things could be said for Toy Story. Both Woody and Buzz went through completely wrapped up character arcs in the first movie, and the story was well rounded and perfect. That didn't stop them from coming up with new a new heart wrenching spin on the idea not once, but twice, turning a pretty much perfect standalone movie into the perfect sequel. I see no reason they couldn't do the same for the Incredibles, as long as they, as you say - and as they said with Toy Story 3 - they wait for a good idea to happen. Who knows, come a few years they could pull the real time aging stunt again with the Incredibles, with the Parrs debating the responsibility of raising the kids to their way of life.
So yeah, I don't think they should make Incredibles 2 just because, but rather am confident that they'd make damn sure its quality would match its predecessor if they ever did make it. And my beef with Cars 2 is that even if its every bit as good as Cars 1, thats still not as good as everything else they've done.
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I don't get the hate for Cars. Is it as good as their best stuff? No, not at all. Can't even come close to Toy Story or Wall*E. But it's still a good, enjoyable film that's well-executed. It's just not as original or "artsy" as their other movies.
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I want to see a sequel to the great mouse detective by pixar
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I've always thought if they decide to bring back the Brave Little Toaster, it'd be a pixar film. Well.. wish it would be anyway.
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I want to see a sequel to the great mouse detective by pixar
I don't know if anything can top Ratigan.
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why was cars the only pixar movie that got tons of other treatment after the movie. with tons of shorts made and a sequel. cars is not the best of pixar mainly cuz it didnt even seem like it was made for kids and was to serious for its own good and they remind me of chevron cars…im still waiting for incedibles 2
"What are you talking about? I am me!Nobody else!" —Roxas
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why was cars the only pixar movie that got tons of other treatment after the movie. with tons of shorts made and a sequel. cars is not the best of pixar mainly cuz it didnt even seem like it was made for kids and was to serious for its own good and they remind me of chevron cars…im still waiting for incedibles 2
Because the merchandise is making BILLIONS every year.
Adults find it stupid, and elitists hate the redneck or Nascar aspect of it, but 5 year old boys LOVE it.
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@RobbyBevard:
Because the merchandise is making BILLIONS every year.
Adults find it stupid, and elitists hate the redneck or Nascar aspect of it, but 5 year old boys LOVE it.
in that case the next cars needs to be made to capture a larger variety of viewers. but i got to admit the visuals are far the best that ive ever scene LOL by pixar
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I hate it because I can't stand Owen Wilson or Larry the Cableguy. I'll give Cars 2 a chance, but I have very low expectations.
And speaking of elitists and 5 (in this case, 2) year olds, my sister is driving me crazy. First, she has tantrums that people keep buying her two year old son Cars merchandise, "I DON'T WANT MY SON TO BECOME A RED NECK, NASCAR LOSER!"
Then, the little boy becomes a HUGE fan of Woody, hugs and sleeps with a Bullseye plush, and RELIGIOUSLY wears a Woody cowboy hat, even though he's two years old…. And she's having a panic attack, trying to get him to like Buzz Lightyear more, because Woody and cowboys are too redneck.
I swear, my kids can be and like whatever the hell they want. Except Bleach.
EDIT: Sorry for the bitchfest.
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I hate it because I can't stand Owen Wilson or Larry the Cableguy. I'll give Cars 2 a chance, but I have very low expectations.
And speaking of elitists and 5 (in this case, 2) year olds, my sister is driving me crazy. First, she has tantrums that people keep buying her two year old son Cars merchandise, "I DON'T WANT MY SON TO BECOME A RED NECK, NASCAR LOSER!"
Then, the little boy becomes a HUGE fan of Woody, hugs and sleeps with a Bullseye plush, and RELIGIOUSLY wears a Woody cowboy hat, even though he's two years old…. And she's having a panic attack, trying to get him to like Buzz Lightyear more, because Woody and cowboys are too redneck.
I swear, my kids can be and like whatever the hell they want. Except Bleach.
EDIT: Sorry for the bitchfest.
He should know better. Spacemen are cooler than cowboys. Cowboys are a thing of the past.
Edit: Do you'll live in an area where red necks are prevalent?
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North Carolina, so pretty much.
My oldest sister is a die hard liberal (I'm liberal too, but I try to consider all the cards at hand), and hates the people we live near. Honestly, people are people. Assholes are assholes. It makes no difference what you are.
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North Carolina, so pretty much.
My oldest sister is a die hard liberal (I'm liberal too, but I try to consider all the cards at hand), and hates the people we live near. Honestly, people are people. Assholes are assholes. It makes no difference what you are.
Yep. I live in South Mississippi…so yeah...I've met some assholeish red necks, and some of the nicest people in my school were red necks. But yeah. Each group has their share of nice and rude people.
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Please tell your sister that cowboys are anything but rednecks
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Insider, are there also actors/actressed you can stand.
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Please tell your sister that cowboys are anything but rednecks
Told her several times. Either way, she should be happy he enjoys something like that. She has a Disney Princess daughter. Not like that branch is flawless either.
Insider, are there also actors/actressed you can stand.
Actors/Actress I've Mentioned That I Can't Stand:
! Tobey Maguire (I don't think I hate anyone more)
Kristen Dunst
Kristen Stewart
Owen Wilson (I like Luke more)
Larry the Cable Guy (I just don't find him that funny)
Halle Berry when she is in a bad moodActors/Actress That I Like Off The Top of My Head:
! Chris Evans
Bradley Cooper
Anne Hatheway (yes)
Robert Downey Jr
Amy Adams
Jake Gyllenhaal (used to hate him)
Penelope Cruz
Emma Stone
Betty White
Natalie Portman (Star Wars killed her for me, but I'm warming up to her. She's an idiot for getting knocked up, but who am I to bash her for something like that.)
Catherine Zeta Jones
Timothy Olyphant
Halle Berry in a good mood
! Just to name a few.
! Favorite Actor of All Time:
Michael Keaton (favorite role: Johnny Dangerously)
! Favorite Actress of All Time:
Madeline Kahn (favorite role: Ms. White)
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Okay, I just asked because of Natalie Portman earlier and I find it impossible to hate her.
Didn't she marry the guy she's having a kid with anyway.
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It was basically a Pixar film anyway, a lot of the same people that went on to make Pixar were involved.
I always wondered how much of pixar is actually in it. I know lassiter got fired after giving the pitch, and then it was sent out to a studio that wasn't even Disney
I broke out my VCR and found my old tv recorded copy of it and I'm actually watching it
I love this movie so much. There's just something really remarkable about it
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If its any consolation, Larry the Cable Guy is just an act. The actual man isn't like that.
I always wondered how much of pixar is actually in it. I know lassiter got fired after giving the pitch, and then it was sent out to a studio that wasn't even Disney
Hrm. Well, I'd always heard the joke it was a pixar effort, I wasn't aware of that part.
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Actors/Actress That I Like Off The Top of My Head:
! Chris Evans
Bradley Cooper
Anne Hatheway (yes)
Robert Downey Jr
Amy Adams
Jake Gyllenhaal (used to hate him)
Penelope Cruz
Emma Stone
Betty White
Natalie Portman (Star Wars killed her for me, but I'm warming up to her. She's an idiot for getting knocked up, but who am I to bash her for something like that.)
Catherine Zeta Jones
Timothy Olyphant
Halle Berry in a good mood
! Just to name a few.
! Favorite Actor of All Time:
Michael Keaton (favorite role: Johnny Dangerously)
! Favorite Actress of All Time:
Madeline Kahn (favorite role: Ms. White)
Rest in Peace, sweet queen of comedy.Fun fact: Chris Evans went to my high school, three years ahead of me. Of course as a freshman I never rubbed elbows with him, ever.
And yeah, Larry the Cable Guy annoys me in general, but in Cars it's like all his most offensive bits were edited out, making him a lovable (or at least kinda lovable) country bumpkin instead of an annoying redneck.
Owen Wilson . . . . . I really don't care either way.
Just look forward to Cars 2 and to Michael Caine playing a British Secret Agent.
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Hrm. Well, I'd always heard the joke it was a pixar effort, I wasn't aware of that part.
it's possible that they took his pitch and made it into the 2d film anyway
the Master lives at A113 2470 McBean Pkwy… sounds familiar??
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The pitch was to make The Brave Little Toaster with computer animation using the same techniques they used to make the Where the Wild Things Are test film. Disney watched the test film, compared the costs of doing the same thing with hand drawn animation, and fired Lasseter for wasting money on a futile effort.
At a guess, they'd already acquired the rights to the book before Lasseter made his pitch, which is why they farmed it out.
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