@$abZ:
Why, did you want Luffy, Zoro and Sanji in a threeway cuddle?
That would fuel the slashfic writers for the next few years.
Anyway, a good chapter, my only complaint is that it could have done with more eye-popping.
Chapter 601: "Romance Dawn for the New World" Discussion
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@Don:
We know that Zoro is able to cut steel, but on TB he wasn`t able to scratch the material PXs are made of.
On TB Zoro didn't expect Kuma to be a cyborg.
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@$abZ:
Why, did you want Luffy, Zoro and Sanji in a threeway cuddle?
I mean they didn't even say "hi" or " i missed you " or "you're other eye is gone"
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"Unicorns can't see into your heart. All our dumb horns can do is glow, point towards the nearest rainbow and play rave music!"
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Loved it! Luffy's able to trash a Pacifista with only one punch! And the other pirates expressions when they saw it - Priceless! Glad that fake Luffy got his 'just desserts'!
Yes but the pirates witnessing it were just fodder, even the pre-break Luffy would have impressed them.
BTW, I'm wondering what happened to the caribou bros ? -
Hey hey, I didn't have time to read the rest of the thread but did anyone else notice how this situation Fluffy was in resembled the way Luffy was 2 years ago? Like in the left upper panel on page 9: "Hurry, let's split! There's no way we could fight […]!!"
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I mean they didn't even say "hi" or " i missed you " or "you're other eye is gone"
Luffy isn't the type to notice things immidiately and they had to get to the ship so they didn't have time for hellos at the moment
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On TB Zoro didn't expect Kuma to be a cyborg.
You mean he didn`t use his strongest strike on Kuma back then while he had the chance of a counter attack out of nowhere.
…Okay checked it while writing this and he used
"Shishi Sonson"!!!! (Lion Song)Iam not rly that type of fan who knows every attack but i think you
re right that this isnt normally a strike which also cuts steel. -
I like the fact that all the monster trio can beat a pacifiata with one attack.
Zoro and Sanji could have destroyed a PX even if it was only one of them - Zoro's cutting attack was definitely enough, although Sanji's broken neck may have needed another kick or two to finish it off. Their attacks simply overlapped.
At this point, I'm expecting Franky to be able to barely defeat a PX in a fight.
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I may sound idiot, but there is this thing that I don't get at all.
Since the time skip, everybody is saying that Luffy was dead and they just found out he was alive when the Fluffy appeared. But, why the hell they thought he was dead to begin with?
If I recall it correctly, people thought he was killed in the war, then he appeared in the "3D2Y" thing and all the world became aware he was alive, right? -
Great chapter, all worth the wait.
So the big idiot who tried to coax people that he was Luffy…isn't even worth Luffy's first bounty. You have to wonder how the heck he got all the way to Sabaody on all the lies he cooked up...but hey, at least Luffy finally got busy and surpassed the "wall" he couldn't back two years ago...so the time-skip was worth it in the end.
Y'know, Negima WAS awesome…
For the first 18 volumes.
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is that mr 2 in the top left panel…?
You mean the guy with the Elvis hairstyle? Nah, just some lookalike.
@.access:
I may sound idiot, but there is this thing that I don't get at all.
Since the time skip, everybody is saying that Luffy was dead and they just found out he was alive when the Fluffy appeared. But, why the hell they thought he was dead to begin with?
If I recall it correctly, people thought he was killed in the war, then he appeared in the "3D2Y" thing and all the world became aware he was alive, right?Since he "disappeared" right after the 3D2Y incident, everyone must've thought that he died some time afterwards.
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@.access:
I may sound idiot, but there is this thing that I don't get at all.
Since the time skip, everybody is saying that Luffy was dead and they just found out he was alive when the Fluffy appeared. But, why the hell they thought he was dead to begin with?
If I recall it correctly, people thought he was killed in the war, then he appeared in the "3D2Y" thing and all the world became aware he was alive, right?Because people didnt have news on him for two years and he was pretty "noticable" before.
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@Tokoro:
Great chapter, all worth the wait.
So the big idiot who tried to coax people that he was Luffy…isn't even worth Luffy's first bounty. You have to wonder how the heck he got all the way to Sabaody on all the lies he cooked up...
He could be a pirate who started on the GL already.
So a native from a GL-island. -
@.access:
I may sound idiot, but there is this thing that I don't get at all.
Since the time skip, everybody is saying that Luffy was dead and they just found out he was alive when the Fluffy appeared. But, why the hell they thought he was dead to begin with?
If I recall it correctly, people thought he was killed in the war, then he appeared in the "3D2Y" thing and all the world became aware he was alive, right?I would guess that after this, maybe a month or two of no signs, the WG decided to spread that he was dead to quell any hype Luffy had incurred.
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I liked this chapter
A shame that guy with the Fake spoilers was basing himself on actual spoilers
But hey, at least the whole part about the Brothers wasn't true, they are still owning, I hope we see more of them before this arc ends, and by "I hope we see more of them", I don't mean "I hope they get killed/arrested"Also, I like Sentoumaru's thing about respect, he respected Kuma and he respected Luffy, two guys he (we assume) hates
The last panel was reminiscent of the the ending of the first chapter, well thought
Sanji and Zoro owning, as expected
I was hoping for Brook to use magic with his song, guess not, or rather, guess we won't find out yet if he can do that
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One serious question even if it unlikely… We know for sure that Zoro and Luffy haven't surpassed their masters. But what about Iva?
Iva was kicking and winking at Kuma but hasn't done as much damage Sanji's kick. I know Kuma is a lot of stronger than a PX. But the material is the same
iva wasnt sanjl only master :)
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Brook better take that fish guitar with him…that's an awesome guitar
Imagine if Brook was put in guitar hero xD
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I liked this chapter
A shame that guy with the Fake spoilers was basing himself on actual spoilers
But hey, at least the whole part about the Brothers wasn't true, they are still owning, I hope we see more of them before this arc ends, and by "I hope we see more of them", I don't mean "I hope they get killed/arrested"Also, I like Sentoumaru's thing about respect, he respected Kuma and he respected Luffy, two guys he (we assume) hates
The last panel was reminiscent of the the ending of the first chapter, well thought
Sanji and Zoro owning, as expected
I was hoping for Brook to use magic with his song, guess not, or rather, guess we won't find out yet if he can do that
The relationship between the decent pirates and marines is really great so far. The marines aren't portrayed as all evil, and all the pirates are good natured and looking for fun. Or the other way around. The fact that there can be respect and even friendship between the two makes it much more complex and wonderful.
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It would be an amazing feat for Sanji to have surpassed Iva, but I just don't see it happening after their training. :( Possible though
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Sanji didn't surpass Iva, that's crazy talk
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I feel like they way they destroyed pacifistas relatively easily is a bit too much. […] I'm not sure how anyone can oppose them now that they are this strong.
strong numbers. It was said somewhere in the story fishmen are stronger than humans, but because of the number of humans, many fishemen were made slaves. Same thing at the war on the summit. Number of marines, and many strong maries.
However when I recall Luffy on Enies Lobby.. ehh…!!?...Also, about Luffy's gear second only in his arm.. not too sure I remember the specifics:
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Sanji didn't surpass Iva, that's crazy talk
I can see it though.
Iva may have been the last okama kenpou master Sanji had to defeat to gain his recipe.
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I can see it though.
Iva may have been the last okama kenpou master Sanji had to defeat to gain his recipe.
really can't see it happening, their first fight was not even a fight so even if sanji
beats all the okamas he can't defeat Ivankov.
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Thanks for the chapter.
Rayleigh:cwy: is just like a father attending his son's commencement…
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P-p-p-pandamaaaaaaaaaaan!!!
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@Zach:
Anyone know if Luffy said his line with different writing in the Japanese RAW?
I asked it to Aohige in the spoiler thread, and he said that his line is the same as it has always been.
Edit: Here it is, my question and his answer…
@isrnick:BTW Aohige, has Luffy changed the way he says "I'm going to be the Pirate King!!" to a more adult manner as Greg sugested?
Nope, exact same line as the beginning of the series.
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Well Iva couldn't really damage Kuma, so I really wouldn't be surprised if Sanji did surpass him. Though if Iva turned into his woman form, it'd be over.
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@.access:
I may sound idiot, but there is this thing that I don't get at all.
Since the time skip, everybody is saying that Luffy was dead and they just found out he was alive when the Fluffy appeared. But, why the hell they thought he was dead to begin with?
If I recall it correctly, people thought he was killed in the war, then he appeared in the "3D2Y" thing and all the world became aware he was alive, right?and then he disappears for 2 years,enough to think that someone isn't around anymore
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Touched By A "Rubber" Angel I think it's awesome that Ray was so touched by Luffy's resolve. Im pretty sure it's becoming more and more obvious that Luffy and the SH's are the next generation "Roger Pirates"…in a sense.
It's interesting to see Ray, who was first mate to Gol D. Roger and a world renowned Pirate even to this day and chapter, have a scar on his Right eye while Zoro, who is first mate to Monkey D. Luffy and a world renowned Pirate have a scar on his left eye.
I think it is reasonable to have high expectations for the SH's moving forward...to think that they became famous to this amount BEFORE and THROUGH the 2 year time skip speaks myriads on how more famous they are going to end up later down the line. They are feared, respected, and wanted by many. They are in the Big Big Leagues now.
The chapter ends on a very exciting note, and the chapter title is definitely fitting for what Oda has in store for us...we of course don't know what's going to happen but given all the hints and suspense Oda had been building up inside us for a while...I am sure we are in for the ride of our lives.
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I noticed something when Luffy went Gear Second only his left arm was steaming
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I believe Luffy is able to use Gear 2nd on his arm because of his gomu gomu cells that are made of gomu gomu particles with the properties listed on the "Gomu Gomu Compendium".
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@.access:
I believe Luffy is able to use Gear 2nd on his arm because of his gomu gomu cells that are made of gomu gomu particles with the properties listed on the "Gomu Gomu Compendium".
Makes sense to me
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I also noticed Zoro held the sword in his left hand in the reversed direction
I am Mansopp the most manliest man to ever man.
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@Enma:
Wonderful. Absolutely Wonderful.
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This chapter is very EPIC. Thank you ODA ! & very big "thanks" to all the staff.
ONE PIECE :wub:
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why do the posters doubt sanji? I believe if he didn't beat Ivankov he at least match him.
Remember at Marine ford the pacifistas were pretty beastly and they manage to take two down a panel a piece however you spin it , that is pretty impressive. Side note : luffy haki "slow" beast I can't wait to see what coby can do. -
So Zoro maybe used Sanzen Senkai? Sadly we will never know it.
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My opinions:
GREAT Chapter.
And a few personal opinions on the discussion topics:
1. Partial Second Gear. I hope Oda has an explanation that is consistent with the faster-blood-circulation-explanation. The Question is, if the doping effect was caused by the faster circulation or the higher amount of pressure on the veins or the higher amount of blood per second. For the first two cases, it would be possible to make a partial gear 2.
All Luffy would have to do, is shrink the veins in his arm (smaller diameter, same blood per second = fastercirculation and higher pressure. Physics Bitches). For the more blood per second-Theory I can't come up with a consistend explanation.But there is another explanation. Luffy just used his arm instead of his legs to pump. By shorten and lenghten his arm.
This would also explain how he jumped so high so quickly.2. Pacifistas didn't get stronger?
Sentenoumarou (what a cool badass) called him PX-5. That's one of the oldest models. It existed 2 years ago. So I suppose that the new models (maybee threedigits, regarding the numbers during the war) are sent to the new world and the old ones are good only for the grand line beacause everybody in the NW would own the old ones quickly as the Trio did. ;-DPS: I liked how Sentenoumaru used the sides of his axe. Like you're not worth cutting.
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I am Mansopp the most manliest man to ever man.
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I wonder how many more people are going to point out that Luffy used Gear Second with just his arm and think that it's their own grand discovery.
Anyways, epic chapter. PX'es getting one-hit was just what I expected to see.
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Never seen him use it before
Against Oars… 3000 worlds... his Ougi
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-480/page014.html
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Add to Arm-Pumping. If I remember correctly, when he used his legs to pump, they started to steam before the rest of the body did. That would explain, why only the arm seems to smoke.
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Funny how they just oneshot both of those Pacifista without any trouble, although I wanted to see Luffy "stance" when it switch into Gear Second, was kind of a shame, but nice Jet Pistol anyway :)
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I LOVE how famous they are now, that everyone's eyes are popping out =D
And Luffy was gonna go into the new world without haki… O_o
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Isn't the blade of the sword in his mouth facing the other way for Sanzen Sekai?
"Danger is my middle name."
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This was a awesome chapter.
I hope next chapter we see the rest of the SH's owning someone.
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so is it s safe to say 602 = get of the island 603 = finally reach fishman island
604 = jinbei's in trouble??? 605 = a sick fight that shows the crews abilities?
606 = starting development of the new nakama (fishman?)
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You are right^^ It is facing to the other side. So it isn't that move
