It's official , Bleach is published fanfiction :ninja:
Felch Discussion Part 4
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Fuck….. Kubo just might do this. Then it'll REALLY be DBZ with swords. (though it already is) :ninja:
Dragon Ball Z (Yeah, I am talking about the anime with the slow pacing)+ St Seiya + Sword= Bleach.
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I would personally put Kubo's attempt (and subsequent failure) down to combine the great elements of Toriyama and Togashi. The Saint Seiya comparison is accurate though, I say this as a hardcore SS fan. Well admittedly I'm reading Lost Canvas at the minute but that's because I can't find many scanlations of the first SS manga.
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If Ichigo pulls of a win because of his 'powerup' and series will end then holy shit this has been worst series ever… I mean its impossible how much Bleach has plummeted from SS and now its like this?
Kubo creates powerful Espada, SS beat Espada in controlled 1vs1 or 2vs1 situations, its Everyone vs Aizen, Aizen beats down everyone through hax, Aizen want Ichigo to power up and lets him train for infinite time.
Ichigo beats Aizen... I mean wtf bullshit is this? What was the point of this? Do we even see Royal Guard? Soul King?
Or does Kubo want to drag this even further by pulling another ''Aizen planned this too!''
God this is so f*cking bad series, its starting to make current Naruto decent and thats almost impossible feat...
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If Ichigo pulls of a win because of his 'powerup' and series will end then holy shit this has been worst series ever… I mean its impossible how much Bleach has plummeted from SS and now its like this?
Kubo creates powerful Espada, SS beat Espada in controlled 1vs1 or 2vs1 situations, its Everyone vs Aizen, Aizen beats down everyone through hax, Aizen want Ichigo to power up and lets him train for infinite time.
Ichigo beats Aizen... I mean wtf bullshit is this? What was the point of this? Do we even see Royal Guard? Soul King?
Or does Kubo want to drag this even further by pulling another ''Aizen planned this too!''
God this is so f*cking bad series, its starting to make current Naruto decent and thats almost impossible feat...
The worst part: Kubo wants to do the Royal Guard and Soul King and has more "planned"…hopefully the fans are finally starting to rebel again the series (it is starting to dip a bit in the rankings)...but the longer it runs and the longer Kubo wants to keep it going, he can, especially with this "ten-year anniversary" celebration that has just started. (or as I'd like to call it: one good year, eight terrible ones...and one that has yet to be)
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Planned? Unless the Hell stuff is used or the Royal Guard are antagonists, I can't see any more villains. Of course it's Japan where the rankings really count, so hopefully the fans can see sense. Unless it's the same sort of thing as Twilight where people read it like some guilty pleasure.
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Aizen will die and then we see all this Spirit King stuff which will be the moment Aizen will reappear with a brand new form and at the end of the day he will say….
"All according to plan."
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At least Frieza's forms made sense…
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I don't know, I really think this fight will stretch on for like 7 more chapters. There will be some trick up Aizen's sleeve to turn the tide, then he'll boast about being all powerful. Then Ichigo will turn the tables again leaving Aizen stunned, and there will be an anticlimactic dual exchange. See: nearly every fight Ichigo has had. Okay, so it is predictable, but most manga is. The key to the success is how the story is told, and Kubo has kind of gutted that and turned his manga into an action-only series. The problem is he does a shitty job of implementing the action scenes. Most of what he does is just show a dark blur when a sword swings and facial expressions with a pose. Take the current chapter for example: Ichigo cleaves a mountain, but from the way it's illustrated it just looks like a small dirt mound got cut. Since Kubo's main focus is on drawing the characters and attempting dialogue this chapter, the significance of the moment was lost, and it came off as cliche or corny. The best mangaka can take the most predictable story and spin the action scenes into something truly monumental, and add details and depth to the story that make it interesting. The problem is Kubo is so self absorbed that he's convinced himself that the only creative inspiration he has is himself, and the rest of us are idiots. I'm done with this manga. Thank GOD Oda does an incredible job. Even Kishimoto is stellar compared to Kubo, at least the action is good in Naruto. Bleach has fallen apart.
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We must read it for the lulz. It's just painful for me that Oda and Togashi are on hiatus.
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@Friend:
At least Frieza's forms made sense…
They did? I thought it was just Toriyama making each of them more bizarre as the last.
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Nope, it was an evolutionary thing. Creatures can grow more powerful as they evolve.
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I guess it kinda makes sense; considering the monkey looking 3rd form.
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Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, I don't demand high end explanations of shonen, I do like my stories to make sense though. I never said Dragonball had a complex plot but at least it is consistent. Uber broken powers annoy me, I don't like Superman much for that matter.
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Yeah, I agree. Trying to comprehend all the haxness in Bleach is bound to give headaches.
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I'm sure it could be written well but Kubo isn't the man for that anymore. I'm tempted to read Zombie Powder even though it was cancelled because I've heard it's better than current plotholed Blech.
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They did? I thought it was just Toriyama making each of them more bizarre as the last.
Freeza's ability to transform was at least mentioned well before the main cast fought him (during the Zarbon fight, if the scanlation I read was accurate). With this, it's just Kubo pulling Aizen's ability to transform out of his ass, and having the main character somehow become more powerful than him (and, by extension, all of Soul Society and the Arrancars combined) by using a power-up which completely ignores all of the series' established conventions.
I can't wait until the next arc, where Ichigo's new powers are completely useless before a mid-level opponent in the enemy organization and the captains have to bail him out.
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If that happens at all. I'm buckled in for the final ride anyway. If things go really badly I still have my HxH and OP Phoenix Downs.
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Freeza's ability to transform was at least mentioned well before the main cast fought him (during the Zarbon fight, if the scanlation I read was accurate). With this, it's just Kubo pulling Aizen's ability to transform out of his ass, and having the main character somehow become more powerful than him (and, by extension, all of Soul Society and the Arrancars combined) by using a power-up which completely ignores all of the series' established conventions.
I can't wait until the next arc, where Ichigo's new powers are completely useless before a mid-level opponent in the enemy organization and the captains have to bail him out.
What the hell are you talking about? Aizen even said that to get even stronger he must break the shinigami barrier. Kubo hinted Aizen transforming later on in the series in the freaking soul society arc. Tousen's transformations seem more like an asspull than Aizen's transformations.
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@Friend:
I'm sure it could be written well but Kubo isn't the man for that anymore. I'm tempted to read Zombie Powder even though it was cancelled because I've heard it's better than current plotholed Blech.
Well it is better for sure. I use to want Kubo to finish it after he finished Bleach but I'm not at all sure about that anymore.
Had such promise too.
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Ah I see what you mean. Ah well it's not like I'm running out of great manga. At this rate Saint Seiya Lost Canvas will overtake Bleach's old position in my manga hierarchy.
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First of all, coloring for a few hours…. and calling it a feat is laughable. ESPECIALLY when you didn't fucking draw the damn thing in the first place.
Welcome to the world of art.
I never called it a feat. I'm just saying, I wouldn't expect anybody on AP to color it as good as I can.
Hey Mewthree, remember that fight where Aizen fought the captains? That's a rhetorical question. You don't.
How could I forget that? That was an awesome fight.
Hell, the second to last page is him thinking, "It's reversed!". And it STILL WAS AN ILLUSION
So? This is different. It was the second to last page. And that was when Aizen was still a shinigami, he was more careful than he is now. He doesn't even rely on his zanpukto abilities since he's so powerful now. Don't you remember that even still, Ichigo couldn't outbeat him before his training? Even Aizen didn't plan for Ichigo to get that powerful, hell he didn't even figure that he himself would get so powerful. I don't expect it to be an illusion. I'll even bet on it too.
Maybe the reason you love this shit series is because you can't comprehend what you read, and you think a few hours of coloring is effort. So naturally you can't tell when Kubo isn't putting effort into his art.
It's not a shit series in my opinion and I never said that a few hours of coloring a panel is effort.
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What is it with terrible posters being incapable of masking their identities?
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Tousen's transformations seem more like an asspull than Aizen's transformations.
Well he was using Hollow abilities and turned into essentially a horrific version of his Shikai/Bankai as a literal bug…so not really (of course that still doesn't excuse the "penis mask"...I can't believe we were laughing at something so insane pre-Aizen)
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@Tokoro:
Well he was using Hollow abilities and turned into essentially a horrific version of his Shikai/Bankai as a literal bug…so not really (of course that still doesn't excuse the "penis mask"...I can't believe we were laughing at something so insane pre-Aizen)
"The penis mask", duuuuude! I had those memories erased and now they are coming back! Must think of butterfrees, must think of butterfrees!:ninja:
Sooo anyway…
! We have a new Zoom in our hands?
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! It IS Zoom .
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I have to correct you: It was Zoom.
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Aw why do that mods . He was the only one spreading the words of righteousness and the Glory of Bleach :(
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We can talk about what Aizen's bankai will be.
I say it's a pencil so he can draw and rewrite the script to 'Bleach' all according to his plan.
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Perhaps it's amnesia-based and can extend beyond the fourth wall.
Then we can all forget that we ever read this manga.
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I dunno how you wana rewrite a bunch of newspaper cut outs selected randomly out of a hat ?
Because that's how the script to Bleach is constructed every week .
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And now, the art process behind Bleach.
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Perhaps it's amnesia-based and can extend beyond the fourth wall.
Then we can all forget that we ever read this manga.
Wouldn't that actually be a better way out of this mess?
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@Tokoro:
The worst part: Kubo wants to do the Royal Guard and Soul King and has more "planned"…hopefully the fans are finally starting to rebel again the series (it is starting to dip a bit in the rankings)...but the longer it runs and the longer Kubo wants to keep it going, he can, especially with this "ten-year anniversary" celebration that has just started. (or as I'd like to call it: one good year, eight terrible ones...and one that has yet to be [terrible])
I hope Aizen's done as a villain at least, and Ichigo replaces him in opposing the Royal Guard and Soul Society King at least. Also, "Hell" is still up in the air as a tourist destination for Shinigami. Maybe Ichigo will have his rematch with Aizen in there.
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If Bleach truly wants to live up to DBZ standards, then it's simple what has to happen after Ichigo wins (if he does).
Next arc, Robo-Aizen the cyborg.
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If Bleach truly wants to live up to DBZ standards, then it's simple what has to happen after Ichigo wins (if he does).
Next arc, Robo-Aizen the cyborg.
You do realize Robo-Aizen is going to be killed by Chad and Orihime's kid from the future, right?
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Then Ichigo and Uuryu put their fingers together and fuse together to defeat Aizen's cousin.
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@Tokoro:
You do realize Robo-Aizen is going to be killed by Chad and Orihime's kid from the future, right?
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The Aizen we face now is infact an android. The real one is looking from afar with an army of other android look-alikes with as much power as the current.
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The Aizen we face now is infact an android. The real one is looking from afar with an army of other android look-alikes with as much power as the current.
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No Gep , please continue .