I don't know if anybody's mentioned it already, but I really like the fact that the poll colors match each of the admiral's color scheme.
I'm a simple person.:happy:
I don't know if anybody's mentioned it already, but I really like the fact that the poll colors match each of the admiral's color scheme.
I'm a simple person.:happy:
@Cyan:
The new era seems to call for a Fleet Admiral who's competent, follows orders without question and to the letter, ruthless, good at getting the job done, and doesn't let his conscience get in the way.
Akainu fits that mold, like it or not.
He has no restraint or true sense though. If he was Fleet Admiral, do you think he would have stood down when Shanks came? Hell no. The thousands of wounded? Screw them, in his mind.
If Akainu were to be the next Fleet-Admiral, both the pirates and Marines would be in for a hard time.
Though, I'd seriously prefer him roaming the seas killing people like ACE off.
You gotta admit, he's the first to kill someone in the present storyline.
Why does somebody have to immediately fulfill the postion of whoever gets promoted.
The marines cannot look weak in any way after the war. Two legends stepping down can't come out making them look weak to the public either.
Sengoku suggesting Aokoiji and them choosing someone else would be a good indicator of how they feel about the way the marines were run under the old timer. I have a feeling they will put Akainu in there because they want someone ruthless in the position.
Akainu pwns Aokoji due to the fact that Aokoji's DF happens to be weak towards Aikanus. If they were in a battle whenever Ao would try to do a ice attack all Aikanu would have to do is make a big ass magma wave and over power it and therefore obliterating Ao..done. Akainu also killed Ace, which shows his awesome battle prowess. Kizaru is just annoying and just doesnt even compare to the other two admirals.
You're just annoying. You just don't compare to the other two Coby fans that exist.
If Akainu were to be the next Fleet-Admiral, both the pirates and Marines would be in for a hard time.
Though, I'd seriously prefer him roaming the seas killing people like ACE off.
You gotta admit, he's the first to kill someone in the present storyline.
I'd prefer him to stay on the frontlines as well. Kizaru being the Fleet Admiral would be the most interesting option by far.
And i can't believe how many people use that avatar. I made that shit while i was stoned like 3 years ago.
You're just annoying. You just don't compare to the other two Coby fans that exist.
I'd prefer him to stay on the frontlines as well. Kizaru being the Fleet Admiral would be the most interesting option by far.
And i can't believe how many people use that avatar. I made that shit while i was stoned like 3 years ago.
You mean mine?
Hahaha, that's quite a fine art you made.
Why does somebody have to immediately fulfill the postion of whoever gets promoted.
3 looks better than 2.
That person really has to fit well. I mean, all of the 3 admirals have nicknames, which are connected to their devil fruit powers. It would fit well if that person had a cool devil fruit like them. The Vice admirals seem kind of boring. Only Smoker comes to mind, he could be "White something", but it seems like the is going to the NW to fight. And he doesn't have the power yet to be in the same league as an admiral.
Though after timeskip, he will increase.
I'm pretty sure Smoker will become an Admiral later in the story. Not yet but after he did something big in the New World. Until that happens there'll be only 2 Admirals.
He's already the "White Hunter", so there's no need to find him a new name aswell^^
I'm pretty sure Smoker will become an Admiral later in the story. Not yet but after he did something big in the New World. Until that happens there'll be only 2 Admirals.
He's already the "White Hunter", so there's no need to find him a new name aswell^^
Oh, I forgot about that name. Nice =D
Wheres the love for Borsalino?
I'm pretty sure Smoker will become an Admiral later in the story. Not yet but after he did something big in the New World. Until that happens there'll be only 2 Admirals.
He's already the "White Hunter", so there's no need to find him a new name aswell^^
i think smoker is more the garp type and doesn't want that position. he declined promotion a lot of times. so i think he will stop ad vice admiral.
after garp handed in his resignation i hoped he would go back to east bleu and be there de highest marine end just beat the shit out of the easy pirates
Aokiji would be the choice Fleet-Admiral becasue he is level-headed and makes unbiased decisions, also Akainu would have to be free to sail around the New World whooping ass on any one who gets in the World Government's way, somthing he would be unable to do as Fleet-Admiral
As for Kizaru (my personal favorite Admiral) he is just to uncaring, and from what we have seen so far, unambitious with very little motivation to do anything so he would not be a good fit for the position were it would require far-sightedness and motivation.
The real question is who will take the place of the missing Admiral? Smoker is an obvious choice but he has so far refused all promotions and its unlikely that the WG would just jump him all the way up to Admrial. So it has got to be a Vice-Admiral…but then again no one really jumps out at me from those who have been introduced as powerful enough to become Admiral....
the position were it would require far-sightedness and motivation.
The real question is who will take the place of the missing Admiral? Smoker is an obvious choice but he has so far refused all promotions and its unlikely that the WG would just jump him all the way up to Admrial. So it has got to be a Vice-Admiral…but then again no one really jumps out at me from those who have been introduced as powerful enough to become Admiral....
A as-yet-unrevealed Logia VA who is stationed in G5 is my bet.
@S.C.:
A as-yet-unrevealed Logia VA who is stationed in G5 is my bet.
I thought about that but if he/she (really would like to see a Female Admiral, that would be cool and something new) was really that powerful why weren't they at the War?
I thought about that but if he/she (really would like to see a Female Admiral, that would be cool and something new) was really that powerful why weren't they at the War?
Simple, you don't leave your single base in the New World empty when at least Kaidou alone was trying to make a move there.
Wait other as in somebody else gets the job other than the current 3?
WTF? A brand new marine replacing Aokiji is one thing but some old guy or new guy just taking the fleet commander spot is an ass pull.
@Zik:
Wait other as an somebody else gets the job other than the current 3?
WTF? A brand new marine replacing Aokiji is one thing but some old guy or new guy just taking the fleet commander spot is an ass pull.
Kind of what I meant, but it was kind of vague So, it was easy to blame.
I dont believe that Kuzan is going to become Fleet Admiral, it seems to… simple, I mean we are after all talking about Oda and therefor I believe a twist of some sort will take place in this matter. I hate to say it but I believe Akainu is going to be the next Fleet Admiral...
Smoker 4 Fleet Admiral Coby for vice
@Zik:
Wait other as in somebody else gets the job other than the current 3?
WTF? A brand new marine replacing Aokiji is one thing but some old guy or new guy just taking the fleet commander spot is an ass pull.
That's how most of the marines would feel too, and could be starting point to the rift in the marines and the WG. And who says it has to be a marine.
Things are going to get even more shady on the WG side, and the good that is in the marines will not be able to stand aside forever. Drake shows that not all marines are likely to sit by.
I thought about that but if he/she (really would like to see a Female Admiral, that would be cool and something new) was really that powerful why weren't they at the War?
To play devil's advocate: why then wasn't Kong at the war?
My guess though is that it'll be Akainu.
Why does there even need to be a new Admiral narratively at this point.
Why does there even need to be a new Admiral narratively at this point.
To add a new opponent. That's not necessary but if the character is interesting, that would be great.
Plus it just seems right there should be 3 Admirals. Like there are 3 powers in the world to keep balance (World Government, Shichibukai, and Yonkou).
Why does there even need to be a new Admiral narratively at this point.
Because the balance of power requires it. I mean hell, we really don't need warlords at this point either but candidates are being sought after.
I agree with Del's assumption:
@Del:
Aokiji makes the most sense. But it's strange for Oda to nearly-confirm it previously, instead of doing a twist…
I thought about Akainu definitely since he had the most effect on the war, but Zik brought up a good point.
@Zik:
It really just takes him out of the game. The Fleet Admiral doesn't go out and catch the threats. They're busy making the strategic decisions for the marines.
For Akainu to be a threat he has to be able to run around and hunt people down, being Fleet Admiral would remove this and I think undermine his purpose as an antagonist. Unless Oda, makes him the sort of behind the scene character, but he isn't like that. He showed some of that in the past at O'hara, but he was very hands on character, literally, during the war.
Also, Akainu again could be one depending on how Oda paces the second half of the series. But it would be a shame if we don't see Akainu or any of the marines until near the end. And the recent development with Akainu running around for BB is also a stroke against this.
So this leads me to:
@paranoiks:
… keep in mind that it is not sengoku who decides who will take his position and maybe WG want to try another type of politics the one of kizaru or sakazuki's
Kizaru could be a real option, and since he doesn't make decisions it would be everyone to themselves. Akainu would be free to be himself, as well as Aokiji. But I don't see the Gorousei choosing him because of his personality, and it doesn't add tension to the story.
The only other person I could think of is Spandam. Can he be the fleet admiral?
By this image:
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Technically, he is around the same level as an Admiral being the leader of CP9. And the character is sort of behind the scenes, but … it's Spanda, it would be really ridiculous. It would definitely make the story more interesting, but I think Akainu would magma fist him the moment he sees him. It's a question mark, could they get along? And I don't think there's any way Spandam would get along with Garp and Sengoku there, it would be a farce, I don't think Spandam would survive a week.
As for a conservative guess, maybe Tsuru, since she is a strategist if it's not Aokoji.
Why the hell would you put the first character in one piece who killed someone non flash back in a position where he can't do shit.
Putting the red dog in fleet admiral position all we going get from him is just barking up a storm. Leave him admiral and will see that dog bite some more fools.
But the Fleet Admiral should be able to do whatever he wants unless the Gorousei make an objection right? If it's normal for a Fleet Admiral to do desk work then Akainu can be the unconventional Fleet Admiral and run around beating pirate ass. Will the Gorousei tell him to stop if they see him providing good results? Nope. With Akainu at the top of the Marine forces he'd have nearly limitless power and I think it'd make the story more exciting in the long run. Because we all know with power what men like Akainu would do. Go buck ass crazy.
@Superbear:
Because the balance of power requires it. I mean hell, we really don't need warlords at this point either but candidates are being sought after.
The balance is basically dead as of now, you know that right.
@FireFistLuffy:
Why the hell would you put the first character in one piece who killed someone non flash back in a position where he can't do shit.
Putting the red dog in fleet admiral position all we going get from him is just barking up a storm. Leave him admiral and will see that dog bite some more fools.
He could still be Fleet Admiral and lead an attack on the new world.
He could still be Fleet Admiral and lead an attack on the new world.
No offence but if that happens the WG and the marines are done for. They had difficulty defeating Whitebeard so how do you think they could do an attack on the New World with Kaidou, Big Mom AND shanks and all their affeliated pirate crews that roam their territories? Also, there is still the remainders of the Whitebeard pirates also, who are, according to the Gorosei, still a force to be reckoned with and one of the only crews together with tho yonkou capable of actually stopping Blackbeard.
i like aokiji's laid back attitude and still be able to kick ass
Well from what I seen so far as Fleet Admiral, he doesn't do shit. Just stays at mariajo giving orders. (Only during the war he pulled his weight, but that's a freaking war.)
To me Fleet admiral seems more of a less active position.
Here's what I think will happen here.
Akainu will be made Fleet Admiral due to the fact that at Marineford he explained to the world how exactly to be epic and be a pure-blood rule-following marine. It wont be long before Luffy goes after Akainu for revenge for obvious reasons.
After Luffy rapes Akainu, Aokiji will take over as he's the second most badass (Kizaru is too laid back and blahzey to be an admiral anyway). So yeah.
Aokiji for FA ;)
I doubt Luffy wants revenge. If he crosses paths with Akainu, then he'll likely want to kick his ass, but I don't think he'll actually go out of his way to seek revenge.
Anyways… Anyone think one of the Vice Admirals will be promoted? I'm hoping for Doberman.
Yeah you're probably right there, that's more what I meant, he's not the kind of person to hold that kind of anger. But that's what i'm thinking will happen… well I hope so. Can you imagine that fight? Little rubber luffy trying to stop the volcano man?
Sick.
Anyways… Anyone think one of the Vice Admirals will be promoted? I'm hoping for Doberman.
I put money on him or Onigumo if it's not going to be a new character. They seem to be the most in line with Absolute Justice, plus Oni has a Devil's Fruit to boot.
For Fleet Admiral, Akainu would be the best choice for story reasons. He's the one who would make some real chances to the Marines, make them more vicious, more unforgiving. It would also cause some juicy, drama friendly tension in the form of an internal conflict between marines like Akainu and more moral marines like Smoker.
So when we have a new fleet admiral the marines also may announce a new third admiral.
For this spot there are many VA who could take it.
That they have another logia user in their back hand..i kind of doubt.
I would like to see Onigumo (i like his spider-DF((when it is that DF)) and he showed that he is a badass like Akainu) or Momonga, because he had so far the most screentime of the VA.
I quite like Momonga, but it's really hard to see him (or any of these guys) as on the same level as the current admirals. It really would be a lot more interesting if it turns out to be someone who draws their power from a non-logia source so I'm hoping that's the way it goes.
As DaeJi suggests, this is highly dependent on who takes over for Sengoku. If it's Akainu, the new admiral would probably be someone sinister like Doberman, but if it does turn out to be Aokiji we'll get someone seemingly more fair-minded like Momonga.
I dont think they'll want to break the whole Logia Admirals thing they've got going on though so part of me actually thinks it might be Smoker, but he's a bit of a wimp compared to the other guys..
I doubt it'll be a giant and Onigumo and Momonga just aren't on the same level as the current 3, it'll more likely be someone completely unheard of and obscure from somewhere deep in the New World I think. Hopefully a Zoan.
I don't see any reason why the marines would ignore sengoku's nomination of aokiji, plus akainu is probably going to head to the new world on some great big pirate hunt or whatever. Most likely putting him in charge of whatever unit it was that smoker wants to join.
If Aokiji becomes Fleet admiral, he might recommend Smoker to jump to admiral… okay.. that's too far fetched I guess....
but with regards to promotion, wasn't Smoker telling Tashigi they have to keep moving forward in ranks ... to be able to gain power to do stuff... think it was at the end of CP9 when they saw the new wanted posters of SH pirates.. or was that from the anime only... hmm..
I like the idea that Akainu becomes Fleet admiral, coz of the tension he'll bring. He'll be able to boss around more than he usually can... and control important powers and affect decisions for the Marines... though I don't like the idea if it means he'll have to be stuck doing administrative stuff like Sengoku was....
I like the idea that Akainu becomes Fleet admiral, coz of the tension he'll bring. He'll be able to boss around more than he usually can… and control important powers and affect decisions for the Marines... though I don't like the idea if it means he'll have to be stuck doing administrative stuff like Sengoku was....
Even as Fleet Admiral I would still expect Akainu to be out in the field, melting pirates, revolutionaries, and the occasional marine who may make the Navy look bad in his opinion. The other Fleet Admiral candidates seem like they'll just continue the status quo, but Akainu is one who would break traditions.
As far as the admirals of part one, my speculation is that they represent the forces of destruction in nature. Far before the introduction of all three admirals Zoro had a line where he stated that the three most destructive elements were fire, water and light. The parallels between Zoro's revelation (I'm sorry i cannot cite the page #) and the logia types of the three admirals are undeniable.
Furthermore, the head wear that each admiral uses to block out sunlight is different and reflects each of their own views on justice. Aokiji uses a blindfold to keep light out while he sleeps, this reflects his willingness to turn a blind eye on criminals who he was ordered to take out. He demonstrates this during both Ohara and Water 7 arcs.
Kizaru sports a cool set of aviators to reflect the extremely easy going nature he posses. More obviously the sun glasses directly represent Borsalino's light based powers. Akainu conforms to the traditional marine headgear, the baseball cap. This is not surprising because Akainu believes the most in the marine philosophy of Absolute Justice.
In regards to the current situation of admirals I would like to see the next set of admirals more reflect the hideous nature of the World Government. Both Magellan and Smoker reflect this dirty nature and both posses the proper destructive capabilities an admiral needs.
Thank you for listening to my rants and interpretations of this wonderful story.
I didn't know ace was an admiral? Good read, interesting theory. When did Zoro say that about the elements?
Ace never was an admiral, but Akainu fits the mold just fine. I have read far and wide recently trying to find Zoro's speech but he has so many. Skypeia is the only arc i haven't combed through.
@Speed:
Ace never was an admiral, but Akainu fits the mold just fine. I have read far and wide recently trying to find Zoro's speech but he has so many. Skypeia is the only arc i haven't combed through.
… And that is the arc where he says it... I think he says it just before practicing his 36 pound canon on some unlucky bird.
Shouldn`t be "wind" a more destructive power than light?
In my book light is more a power which creates life.
light is known to bleach many substances and also makes your beer skunky, very very destructive.
@Speed:
light is known to bleach many substances and also makes your beer skunky, very very destructive.
:blink: DAMN YOU LIGHT!!
But still having on a sunny day a cold beer is still the best way to drink it..so i guess it`s a draw.