I thought it was gonna be the blonde amazon, Margurite, until Hancock got as much development as she did..
I just love her daydreams…
I thought it was gonna be the blonde amazon, Margurite, until Hancock got as much development as she did..
I just love her daydreams…
Agog: Do you really think Oda would make Perona the next crew member, when the probably one chance she had, was the Thriller Bark arc? Would Oda really just chuck her into the crew after all the time he's spent building up Hancock and Jinbei's characters. (More so for Hancock) It just seems like it would punch all the fans in the balls.
As much as I want and believe Hancock will join, I won't be surprised if random new character #1 crops up and they become the next crew member, and all of this internet rage will be for nothing, and we'll all look like the fucking idiots we are.
Remember guys, Fighting on the Internet is like running in the special Olympics. Even if you win, your still retarded.
Gogo Team Hancock
I don't remember if I ever expanded to you, I get the feeling I did elaborate about why I support Perona…
To answer your question...
Yes, I feel that the only character with any chance to join at this point in the manga, since Galdino went M.I.A. through the war, is Perona.
Reason is because she has a more practical way to head and meet up to gain an invite, or the chance to... Characters like Hancock and Jinbei are characters that I feel never had a chance to join in the first place; Hancock with her island and Jinbei basically about his size.
Building up Hancock's character or Jinbei's? What, are you kidding me? I don't see an ounce of crap from them... They're stiff, pathetic, and even less important than the likes of Shushu. If that crazy amazing dog can't join, these two don't even need a reason to be considered...
Hancock has nothing at all to even "call" build up, she is as uniform as all the pathetic AL residents; doing the same crap. She needs to be killed, that's what I think.
Jinbei doesn't even have one thing to even explain what and why he is so obsessed with all that he does... He's one of the most underdeveloped characters in this whole arc; we don't even know what FI means to him yet.
So, try that Jinbei line when we even know something about that fool, maybe come FI.
Perona, which hasn't even been developed much of anything, holds more than Hancock and at this moment has more than Jinbei... She's even able to have a lot more added because she can...
Hancock's character has already been completed... She's done. Jinbei hasn't even got a single thing called "development" at all yet... So, he's not even able to be talked about. Perona needs only a backstory, and then everything is provided and consistent.
I don't care if he disappoints the general public, I just don't wanna see another crappy thing like the conclusion to this war. It just sucked...
Having Hancock join even though her island is shit, that's as bad as that war's ending... Having Jinbei join now is far more pathetic...
Having Perona join now would follow the manga's consistent flow, and would be the most liable option with introduced characters unless mr. 2 comes back into plot.
But, the best of them all is to create a character that'll join from scratch.
I'd hate the last one, cause then Oda can only force an asspull of the final, or basically make them all "new" crappy characters...
I don't want to talk about it… Oda disappointed me with the way Shanks and Law interacted in the ending of this arc...
I don't remember if I ever expanded to you, I get the feeling I did elaborate about why I support Perona…
Yes we've read your verbose garbage meanderings on many an occasion.
To answer your question…
Yes, I feel that the only character with any chance to join at this point in the manga, since Galdino went M.I.A. through the war, is Perona.
Perona has been missing in action for far longer than Mr 3. Why would you even bring him up in the first place, what a completely random statement to make.
Reason is because she has a more practical way to head and meet up to gain an invite, or the chance to…
Everything you've ever said about Perona can be applied to literally every neutral/allied character we've ever come across.
And Perona isn't even an ally, she fought Usopp and got whopped for her troubles.
Haha now there's a point: Oda has gone out of his way to say Usopp will always be the weakest of the Straw Hats, Perona lost to him, she's automatically black listed.
Bye bye agog.
Characters like Hancock and Jinbei are characters that I feel never had a chance to join in the first place; Hancock with her island
You mean the island she didn't give a shit about enough to even heed a direct WG summons.
and Jinbei basically about his size.
Hahaha now this is a classic.
Out of all the cogent reasons Jinbei is unlikely to join you pick…his size??
jesus crist
Building up Hancock's character or Jinbei's? What, are you kidding me? I don't see an ounce of crap from them… They're stiff, pathetic, and even less important than the likes of Shushu. If that crazy amazing dog can't join, these two don't even need a reason to be considered...
And where is this amazing personality of Perona's that I have missed.
Hancock has nothing at all to even "call" build up, she is as uniform as all the pathetic AL residents; doing the same crap. She needs to be killed, that's what I think.
Hancock has no chance to join, but even considering that she is far more likelier than Perona: she has a far greater connection to the crew and plot, as well as actual relevance.
Jinbei doesn't even have one thing to even explain what and why he is so obsessed with all that he does… He's one of the most underdeveloped characters in this whole arc; we don't even know what FI means to him yet.
I know reading isn't one of your strengths but you really need to go back and pay attention to the whole slavery/Whitebeard-hand-of-peace/discrimination angle.
So, try that Jinbei line when we even know something about that fool, maybe come FI.
What do we know about Perona just what. You can't use these arguments against other characters when these same arguments cut your character at the knees before tossing her under a speeding freight train.
Perona, which hasn't even been developed much of anything,
At least you're conceding that, but praytell how this makes her any more likely than Hancock or Jinbei.
holds more than Hancock
hancock has had more screen time and been developed a 1000x more, has actual links to the protagonists, has actual relevance to the plot and metaworld.
Perona has nothing. Nothing.
You keep saying she "holds more than Hancock/Jinbei/random" yet you never mention anything. You're terrible
and at this moment has more than Jinbei…
What does she have more than Jinbei, name one thing. Just one.
She's even able to have a lot more added because she can…
Please finish your sentence, it's got me on tenterhooks.
Hancock's character has already been completed… She's done.
So first you complain Hancock is a blank canvas to not be considered a candidate, then you turn it on it's head to say her chances are non-existent because she's too well developed.
Make your mind up you blithering faggot.
Jinbei hasn't even got a single thing called "development" at all yet…
And Perona does? Come on, read your own garbage before hitting the submit reply button. I refuse to believe anyone can be this stupid. I simply refuse.
So, he's not even able to be talked about. Perona needs only a backstory, and then everything is provided and consistent.
I'm almost through decimating your post and you still haven't mentioned a single thing that makes Perona a viable choice. You keep pointing at some hidden secrets that only you can see.
Get the fuck outta here.
I don't care if he disappoints the general public, I just don't wanna see another crappy thing like the conclusion to this war. It just sucked…
Then we can agree Perona joining won't happen. It would be simply terribel.
Having Hancock join even though her island is shit, that's as bad as that war's ending… Having Jinbei join now is far more pathetic...
And Perona joining would destroy Oda's credibility too.
Having Perona join now would follow the manga's consistent flow, and would be the most liable option with introduced characters unless mr. 2 comes back into plot.
Were'nt we talking about Mr 3 a few seconds ago.
I think Miss Merrychristmas has a good chance to join if Crocodile brings her back to the plot.
[Hide]Yes we've read your verbose garbage meanderings on many an occasion.
Perona has been missing in action for far longer than Mr 3. Why would you even bring him up in the first place, what a completely random statement to make.
Everything you've ever said about Perona can be applied to literally every neutral/allied character we've ever come across.
And Perona isn't even an ally, she fought Usopp and got whopped for her troubles.
Haha now there's a point: Oda has gone out of his way to say Usopp will always be the weakest of the Straw Hats, Perona lost to him, she's automatically black listed.
Bye bye agog.
You mean the island she didn't give a shit about enough to even heed a direct WG summons.
Hahaha now this is a classic.
Out of all the cogent reasons Jinbei is unlikely to join you pick…his size??
jesus crist
And where is this amazing personality of Perona's that I have missed.
Hancock has no chance to join, but even considering that she is far more likelier than Perona: she has a far greater connection to the crew and plot, as well as actual relevance.
I know reading isn't one of your strengths but you really need to go back and pay attention to the whole slavery/Whitebeard-hand-of-peace/discrimination angle.
What do we know about Perona just what. You can't use these arguments against other characters when these same arguments cut your character at the knees before tossing her under a speeding freight train.
At least you're conceding that, but praytell how this makes her any more likely than Hancock or Jinbei.
hancock has had more screen time and been developed a 1000x more, has actual links to the protagonists, has actual relevance to the plot and metaworld.
Perona has nothing. Nothing.
You keep saying she "holds more than Hancock/Jinbei/random" yet you never mention anything. You're terrible
What does she have more than Jinbei, name one thing. Just one.
Please finish your sentence, it's got me on tenterhooks.
So first you complain Hancock is a blank canvas to not be considered a candidate, then you turn it on it's head to say her chances are non-existent because she's too well developed.
Make your mind up you blithering faggot.
And Perona does? Come on, read your own garbage before hitting the submit reply button. I refuse to believe anyone can be this stupid. I simply refuse.
I'm almost through decimating your post and you still haven't mentioned a single thing that makes Perona a viable choice. You keep pointing at some hidden secrets that only you can see.
Get the fuck outta here.
Then we can agree Perona joining won't happen. It would be simply terribel.
And Perona joining would destroy Oda's credibility too.
Were'nt we talking about Mr 3 a few seconds ago.
I think Miss Merrychristmas has a good chance to join if Crocodile brings her back to the plot.[/Hide]
Do you have any argument other than "No" and "This detail here is irrelevant"?
Do you have any argument other than "No" and "This detail here is irrelevant"?
For the arguments AGOG is using for Perona to join Corrado doesn't need any other arguments than those.
The whole argument for Perona to join is dependent on a huge "if" on Oda's part. AGOG has indulged himself in that "if" to the point that all his arguments are "supported" by his own fan fiction and not anything from the manga.
Anybody could do what he's doing with any character that's semi involved in the main story or some sub plot at the moment. It also doesn't help that his counter arguments for characters that are in the main story are just plain dumb as fuck.
I don't want to talk about it… Oda disappointed me with the way Shanks and Law interacted in the ending of this arc...
Well I think it won't be the last time you will be dissapointed… Maybe even the doors will be fixed or that "shitty" woman will join. And maybe Perona won't join... Same as Ace wasn't revived.
Do you have any argument other than "No" and "This detail here is irrelevant"?
Maybe your comprehension is as bad as agog's, I've never come across you before so I've yet to see if your as big an idiot as him. However your post here doesn't bode well, your mental capacity seems to be significantly crippled, perhaps this is because your mother refused to breast feed you.
It's a well known scientific fact that children who are breast fed have brains 25-30% bigger than those who were brought up on artificial formula. Mammals feed their young with a substance full of fats, sugars and proteins. We call that milk. I shouldn't be mean to you because your mother simply never gave you a chance to begin with.
Having said this, I'm sure even the most significantly mentally afflicted individuals are capable enough to engage in human communication, I recommend you slowly read through my post again taking into account the context of agog's argument.
Thank you,
Dr. Corrado Soprano, M.B.B.S.
Maybe your comprehension is as bad as agog's, I've never come across you before so I've yet to see if your as big an idiot as him. However your post here doesn't bode well, your mental capacity seems to be significantly crippled, perhaps this is because your mother refused to breast feed you.
It's a well known scientific fact that children who are breast fed have brains 25-30% bigger than those who were brought up on artificial formula. Mammals feed their young with a substance full of fats, sugars and proteins. We call that milk. I shouldn't be mean to you because your mother simply never gave you a chance to begin with.
Having said this, I'm sure even the most significantly mentally afflicted individuals are capable enough to engage in human communication, I recommend you slowly read through my post again taking into account the context of agog's argument.
Thank you,
Dr. Corrado Soprano, M.B.B.S.
Assuming M.B.B.S stands for Manners Beyond BullShit, I'm just going to look past your argumentally unsupported insult and ask you this: Doctor, as you pose yourself to be, are you retarded or just plain dumb?
I'm aware of the context, as well as the rather unnecessary stretch of authory AGOG uilizes, but none the less your reply lacks any statement backup, hence it has the same value in a discussion as "No, because I say so." and the fact that you even bothered to place weight on the example detail that is Mr.3 suggests you have an unability to comprehend the premises of a text that deals with something completely different. And you're supposed to have a doctor's degree?
Corrado…
[hide]@Corrado:
Yes we've read your verbose garbage meanderings on many an occasion.
Was I talking to you? Afraid not… Couldn't notice the "name" of the person who was quoted or something?
Perona has been missing in action for far longer than Mr 3. Why would you even bring him up in the first place, what a completely random statement to make.
Because he isn't with Luffy anymore. And aside from Perona, he was the only other character without any definite future either.
Everything you've ever said about Perona can be applied to literally every neutral/allied character we've ever come across.
Maybe that is the point? But, do explain how all those other characters can do what Perona can… Please do, I'll be waiting!!
And Perona isn't even an ally, she fought Usopp and got whopped for her troubles.
Haha now there's a point: Oda has gone out of his way to say Usopp will always be the weakest of the Straw Hats, Perona lost to him, she's automatically black listed.
Bye bye agog.
Didn't we have this shit before? Oda never claimed anything about someone being the weakest… Wikipedia claimed that because they didn't want to show the real explanation of that interview, and made an assumption based upon the topic that the interview covered... Which was utter bullshit since they assumed beyond what was there.
Perona losing to Usopp doesn't seriously do anything. A character can join even if they get defeated in a fight, nothing special.
You mean the island she didn't give a shit about enough to even heed a direct WG summons.
Aye, that same island. That island that she gave a fuck to be an Empress of even though she gave no fucking care for it… Seems fishy since she could have done whatever the fuck she wants, rather than baby herself with the idiot island...
Hahaha now this is a classic.
Must be… I feel like it's similar to Homer classic, if you know what i mean...
Out of all the cogent reasons Jinbei is unlikely to join you pick…his size??
Is it not a simple fact? But– yes.
jesus crist
Proper nouns are supposed to be spelled correctly, and so is the savior of our Lord!!
Jesus H. Christ.
Thanks.
And where is this amazing personality of Perona's that I have missed.
In the manga we know as "One Piece" which is a series… Yeah, you know... It is THERE, inside...
Maybe you should have been "paying" attention so that you wouldn't miss such things; after all, how careless can you be, Mr. Gedatsu... And please don't inform me that you missed him as well; cause that's sad.
Hancock has no chance to join, but even considering that she is far more likelier than Perona: she has a far greater connection to the crew and plot, as well as actual relevance.
Does she? I do think that Amazon Lilly will have a visit sometime in the far far future, but now is a little too much… And no, I don't think that someone who is with Marines at this moment has a better connection than another character who stands with a real strawhat at this moment... Do you?
Furthermore, the future potential that Perona can provide is unlimited; since we know nothing of her character... Much like how Jinbei holds the same quality concerning Fishman island.
The future Hancock can provide; fails... "Save the AL from an attack!!" or "Force Hancock to attack Marijoes and destroy the WG!!"
Not much of any use there, right?
I'd take the two characters that don't have anything concerning this over the one that suggests two needless bits of stalled content, right?
I know reading isn't one of your strengths but you really need to go back and pay attention to the whole slavery/Whitebeard-hand-of-peace/discrimination angle.
Really? Why don't you tell me how Jinbei feels about all that, please do… Cause Jinbei only comments about "significances" of such things, not how his own mind assumes stuff as. He never said anything about why he cares so much for FI, and if you ask me, he never even mentions a single thing about the slavery scandal. He's only all about Ace and WB cause of FI, but for no reason except that he has to be grateful...
If you don't get this, then I urge to show one thing about how important FI is to him.
What do we know about Perona just what. You can't use these arguments against other characters when these same arguments cut your character at the knees before tossing her under a speeding freight train.
What do we need to know about her?
Does she have anything to prevent her from joining, no…
Does she have a way to even be able to join, yes...
Look at that!! We know more than enough about her, fascinating how easy we can sum up her entire argument!!
The fact that Perona has barely any information in her background is what allows her to be such a great addition; we are talking about POTENTIAL here, sir.
The fact that she has a characterization that is different and a probable, possible occupation suggests that she's able to exist on their ship...
In other words, everything but the boring details are there; it is up to Oda to follow-through if he wants it to happen.
At least you're conceding that, but praytell how this makes her any more likely than Hancock or Jinbei.
Hancock: my marine led ship has to follow a guy, and then I have to magically leave my island to die… Or go save them.
Jinbei: I always thought of FI as important, but I don't know why, however, I still have to go and do something at FI before I join; wait until then...
Perona: "NW? sure!! Just let me get my ass on your ship and let's leave!! I've got nothing else to do, unless I wanna be on my own... You should have everything I need on your ship already, so let's just go... Oh yeah, I quit my old job; give me one here!!"
Does it even seem like a joke to you?
Hancock and Jinbei need to have things removed, and Perona just needs to show up... How absurd this sounds, right?
hancock has had more screen time and been developed a 1000x more, has actual links to the protagonists, has actual relevance to the plot and metaworld.
I have the screen time for Perona…
To find out more, click my sig's link… It shows everything in detail at the later parts.
In terms of all that other stuff;
Perona has nothing. Nothing.
She has a parasol!!
You keep saying she "holds more than Hancock/Jinbei/random" yet you never mention anything. You're terrible
I do, you never look at it…
http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3318865&postcount=1
There, it's there again.
Do you want me to explain?
What does she have more than Jinbei, name one thing. Just one.
The fact that she has nothing holding her back; Jinbei still needs FI to basically have a chance at joining, she doesn't need anything but to meet the group and say yes, or ask.
Please finish your sentence, it's got me on tenterhooks.
:ninja:
So first you complain Hancock is a blank canvas to not be considered a candidate, then you turn it on it's head to say her chances are non-existent because she's too well developed.
Yeah, however, there are other times when I just care less and don't care for at all…
Make your mind up you blithering faggot.
Read the name of the guy who was actually asking me for a debate, just maybe?
And Perona does? Come on, read your own garbage before hitting the submit reply button. I refuse to believe anyone can be this stupid. I simply refuse.
Fine, I'll continue to laugh at you, and such…
The fact that you are even commenting about this, that's a funny joke!!
I'm almost through decimating your post and you still haven't mentioned a single thing that makes Perona a viable choice. You keep pointing at some hidden secrets that only you can see.
http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3318865&postcount=1
Yes, I am sure that you aren't able to connect "Zoro + SH CREW + [Perona has nothing else to do…] + Zoro's current island + blah blah blah = Joinage?"
It's all there, the whole thing is so easy to understand that I get bored of this…
Get the fuck outta here.
I love waffles… :wub:
Then we can agree Perona joining won't happen. It would be simply terribel.
Not really, I feel that it would be one of the finest moments in the manga…
And Perona joining would destroy Oda's credibility too.
Because I would be correct?
Were'nt we talking about Mr 3 a few seconds ago.
No, we were always on about Gedatsu.
I think Miss Merrychristmas has a good chance to join if Crocodile brings her back to the plot.
Yes, we can mutually agree here… :sad:
[/hide]
Assuming M.B.B.S stands for Manners Beyond BullShit,
Did you come up with that all by yourself?! Well done! There's hope for you still, child.
I'm just going to look past your argumentally unsupported insult and ask you this:
Diagnosis is never pleasant, especially with the patient him/herself, however we must look past this analysis as an insult, it is, without any ego whatsoever, an honest evaluation for your edification.
Doctor, as you pose yourself to be, are you retarded or just plain dumb?
Neither, I am simply an honest man with honest values. You shouldn't attack the bearer of truth even if it cuts deep to your very soul, son.
I'm aware of the context, as well as the rather unnecessary stretch of authory AGOG uilizes,
Then you have completely conceded any initial complaints you had as you've accepted agog doesn't reside in reality, how else can his statements be knocked down then, other than ripping into his logic.
but none the less your reply lacks any statement backup,
I don't need to back anything up, all I need to do is cut his baseless argument down.
A butterknife was enough, that's how flimsy his argument is.
hence it has the same value in a discussion as "No, because I say so."
Aside from your mother not breast feeding you, she also never taught you not to lie: you simply haven't read my post, otherwise you wouldn't be spewing this tripe from every orifice.
and the fact that you even bothered to place weight on the example detail that is Mr.3 suggests you have an unability to comprehend the premises of a text that deals with something completely different.
His text doesn't deal with anything, it has no set boundaries in the realm of logic, it completely jumps from one unsupported point to another, with everything concocted in the fairy tail land of insanity that is agog's gastropodic consciousness.
How about you try to put together some semblance of an argument in favour of Perona, or will you prove yourself to be another invertebrate coward amongst the dregs of the Arlong Park masses.
And you're supposed to have a doctor's degree?
If a story written for junior high-schoolers is beyond you then a physician's practise is far beyond any comprehension you could ever hope to achieve.
Agog: I'm sorry you feel that way buddy.
And I think there is much more development for Hancock and Jinbei, but that's just my view. No point trying to force it down others throats.
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
For the arguments AGOG is using for Perona to join Corrado doesn't need any other arguments than those.
The whole argument for Perona to join is dependent on a huge "if" on Oda's part. AGOG has indulged himself in that "if" to the point that all his arguments are "supported" by his own fan fiction and not anything from the manga.
Anybody could do what he's doing with any character that's semi involved in the main story or some sub plot at the moment. It also doesn't help that his counter arguments for characters that are in the main story are just plain dumb as fuck.
Then do so… I'm waiting for you to say that "no" to this: http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3318865&postcount=1
I mean, it's very easy:
Perona goes with Zoro and then ends up joining cause Luffy invites anything that moves…
Hmmm... The whole basis of this compared to all the others is that unlike those others, Perona doesn't have anything to hold her back meanwhile the many other faces do have several other things to stall, or detour them from joining. Perona has nothing, but that which can happen...
Of course, it may be an assumption based upon SPECULATION, which the thread is supposed to be about... Nonetheless, does it really matter how it suggests things may happen based upon the known ideas revolving around Perona's position with Zoro? I hope not. I'm merely picking at the details and trying to figure out why Oda even bothered to do it that way... Of course, if it ends up like Shanks and such, then I don't wanna bother getting into it.
Well I think it won't be the last time you will be dissapointed… Maybe even the doors will be fixed or that "shitty" woman will join. And maybe Perona won't join... Same as Ace wasn't revived.
You wouldn't understand anything about the Ace thing. You show that you can't understand the doors thing either…. And I don't wanna know what else you can't grasp.
No point. You probably don't wanna try and predict the future, but that's alright since "waiting" is something you seem capable of /sarcasm.
@Corrado:
Maybe your comprehension is as bad as agog's, I've never come across you before so I've yet to see if your as big an idiot as him. However your post here doesn't bode well, your mental capacity seems to be significantly crippled, perhaps this is because your mother refused to breast feed you.
You are very bright!
It's a well known scientific fact that children who are breast fed have brains 25-30% bigger than those who were brought up on artificial formula. Mammals feed their young with a substance full of fats, sugars and proteins. We call that milk. I shouldn't be mean to you because your mother simply never gave you a chance to begin with.
How is Cambridge University, genius..?
Having said this, I'm sure even the most significantly mentally afflicted individuals are capable enough to engage in human communication, I recommend you slowly read through my post again taking into account the context of agog's argument.
You lost at the first word; too big for me to grasp… You are a man of infinite ability; limit holds no meaning when they reference you with it!! Gen~i~us~!~!
Thank you,
Dr. Corrado Soprano, M.B.B.S.
Amazing, your last name has the letters "p-o-r-n" in them, and that spells "PORN!!"
Hehehehehehheheheh…
Assuming M.B.B.S stands for Manners Beyond BullShit, I'm just going to look past your argumentally unsupported insult and ask you this: Doctor, as you pose yourself to be, are you retarded or just plain dumb?
I'm aware of the context, as well as the rather unnecessary stretch of authory AGOG uilizes, but none the less your reply lacks any statement backup, hence it has the same value in a discussion as "No, because I say so." and the fact that you even bothered to place weight on the example detail that is Mr.3 suggests you have an unability to comprehend the premises of a text that deals with something completely different. And you're supposed to have a doctor's degree?
He is a genius, isn't it obvious…
He doesn't even care for "names" and such, he knows all!!
And I think there is much more development for Hancock and Jinbei, but that's just my view. No point trying to force it down others throats.
Tell me about it, I'm actually a nice guy when someone doesn't constantly belittle me in some adverse way or form.
I happen to think of this stuff as relatively easy, and don't feel that there's too much hardship involved in this debate.
Thing is Agog, if your wrong, then you'll never hear the end of it, but if your right, then we all take the emergency cyanide tablets.
Then do so… I'm waiting for you to say that "no" to this: http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3318865&postcount=1
I mean, it's very easy:
Perona goes with Zoro and then ends up joining cause Luffy invites anything that moves…Hmmm... The whole basis of this compared to all the others is that unlike those others, Perona doesn't have anything to hold her back meanwhile the many other faces do have several other things to stall, or detour them from joining. Perona has nothing, but that which can happen...
Of course, it may be an assumption based upon SPECULATION, which the thread is supposed to be about... Nonetheless, does it really matter how it suggests things may happen based upon the known ideas revolving around Perona's position with Zoro? I hope not. I'm merely picking at the details and trying to figure out why Oda even bothered to do it that way... Of course, if it ends up like Shanks and such, then I don't wanna bother getting into it.
No .
If Boa doesn't join I'd be extremely upset same with Jimbei not joining.
I agree…I would at least like to see her confront the World Nobles, I liked her story.
Stupid Oda going on break..right when we get one question answered, but now have a million other ones..
Thing is Agog, if your wrong, then you'll never hear the end of it, but if your right, then we all take the emergency cyanide tablets.
If I am right, I don't want to see a suicide count… I don't even want to be praised.
It's pointless... I'll probably brag since the bitter taste of constant insults would spur me to brag.
I know. People will constantly do so, but the funny thing is that probably none of the people ever even read what I type, so they don't even know what my stance is.
All they know is that "all of the people here hate him!!" so they feel I'm insane or something.
As long as people actually have read and understood what I was thinking, it's not important if I am wrong or right... The whole argument is a good one..
No .
You never read it, it was evident that it would never be…
The crew combination on my sig have the best composition ever.
Luffy doesn't invite everybody, there's plenty of people he didn't invite. Why would he invite her, why would Perona go along with it and why wouldn't the rest of the crew object?
You never read it, it was evident that it would never be…
I did and it was exactly what I said it was. I gave you my answer.
What's so hard to understand? It's not a good theory at all.
The crew combination on my sig have the best composition ever.
A simple day on the Thousand Sunny, by means of Retardia's sig:
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Sanji: Lunch!!!!!!
[Narrator: however, as the crew ran towards the lunch room, the dining room, a problem formed; they met a fatal conflict…]
Jinbei: Umphhh!!!
Zoro: Jinbei, you're holding up the food… Damn it!!
Sanji: Eh, let Nami-swan, Robin-chawn, and Hancock-dono [for lack of anything…] through shitty fish!!
Jinbei: I'm sorry, Mugiwara Crew. It seems that by some mere chance that I have become "stuck" through this passageway…
Chopper: looks like we'll have to go through the back way...
Hancock: move it, Tanuki!!
Chopper is flying away...
I will make sure that this GIANT FISH doesn't impede the path of my beloved...
an hour passes
Nami: We should go around...
Hancock: NOT YET!! MY BELOVED WILL NOT BE BLOCKED BY THIS!!
Luffy passes to the after life...
Jinbei is mortally stoned and all the rubble blocks the path into the dining room, furthermore, the food has gone cold.
Another hour passes
The strawhat crew dies of starvation, all because the FISHMAN and the CRAZY woman prevented lunch from happening, all but Brook. He now sits there crying that his new crew is gone too...
THE END!!
Luffy doesn't invite everybody, there's plenty of people he didn't invite. Why would he invite her, why would Perona go along with it and why wouldn't the rest of the crew object?
It's really just a "take a ride to SA with Zoro" and ask to join sort of thing.
Right, because it's not like Franky, who can build a bridge out of scrap wood and metal in seconds, can't make the doors bigger or anything, and it's not like Hancock hasn't been shown to be able to control her powers to the point that everything she touches doesn't turn to stone. Because that would be totally impossible and unbelieveable.
It was their "first" victory lunch on the Thousand Sunny, it was already too late to even think this sort of thing could happen.
Franky never calculated this, therefore, he didn't plan for such a thing. Jinbei just had to be the first, otherwise, it might have been different.
A simple day on the Thousand Sunny, by means of Retardia's sig:
[insert story here]
Right, because it's not like Franky, who can build a bridge out of scrap wood and metal in seconds, can't make the doors bigger or anything, and it's not like Hancock hasn't been shown to be able to control her powers to the point that everything she touches doesn't turn to stone. Because that would be totally impossible and unbelieveable.
Was I talking to you? Afraid not… Couldn't notice the "name" of the person who was quoted or something?
"Uhoh someone responding to a public message on an internet forum calling me out on my shit?? the NERVE"
Because he isn't with Luffy anymore.
Perona has NEVER been with Luffy.
And aside from Perona, he was the only other character without any definite future either.
So you completely skipped over the current arc which has placed almost every pirate participant in an uncertain future? How much more stupid can you get.
Maybe that is the point? But, do explain how all those other characters can do what Perona can… Please do, I'll be waiting!!
What can Perona do?! I am literally laughing here, you still don't get it do you?
Didn't we have this shit before? Oda never claimed anything about someone being the weakest… Wikipedia claimed that because they didn't want to show the real explanation of that interview, and made an assumption based upon the topic that the interview covered... Which was utter bullshit since they assumed beyond what was there.
Perona losing to Usopp doesn't seriously do anything. A character can join even if they get defeated in a fight, nothing special.
The only solid proof we have about Perona…and you're whitewashing it. I completely expected that.
Sorry, you're wrong, Oda's words confirm Perona has a 0% chance of joining. Usopp beat here, suck a cock agog.
Aye, that same island. That island that she gave a fuck to be an Empress of even though she gave no fucking care for it… Seems fishy since she could have done whatever the fuck she wants, rather than baby herself with the idiot island...
"Hancock is attached to the island, this shows she won't join because…she doesn't give a shit about the island"
You never cease to amaze me.
Must be… I feel like it's similar to Homer classic, if you know what i mean...
the mental gymnastics you are performing right now should land you in psychotropic therapy.
Is it not a simple fact? But– yes.
It's not a fact, it's an attack based on the fact he's fat. How does that negate his chances. It's akin to "Chopper is a reindeer he won't join"
Proper nouns are supposed to be spelled correctly, and so is the savior of our Lord!!
Jesus H. Christ.
Thanks.
Not the first thing that went completely over your head.
In the manga we know as "One Piece" which is a series… Yeah, you know... It is THERE, inside...
Maybe you should have been "paying" attention so that you wouldn't miss such things; after all, how careless can you be, Mr. Gedatsu… And please don't inform me that you missed him as well; cause that's sad.
Perona is a completely bland side cannon fodder worth less than a shit. That is pretty accurate. Now dig yourself out of that dump hole.
Does she?
…yeees...
I do think that Amazon Lilly will have a visit sometime in the far far future, but now is a little too much… And no, I don't think that someone who is with Marines at this moment has a better connection than another character who stands with a real strawhat at this moment... Do you?
She is as close to the Marines as Luffy is…in case you missed it, this very arc she has actively been fighting against a whole host of them and just hijacked one of their ships, all the time being in love with the main character and captain of the Straw Hat Pirates, as well as one of the three world powers. So yeah she has a better connection in every sense.
Furthermore, the future potential that Perona can provide is unlimited; since we know nothing of her character…
The future potential Peeply Lulu can provide is unlimited, we know nothing about his charactre!
Much like how Jinbei holds the same quality concerning Fishman island.
Why can't you stay on track the argument, it's not that hard.
The future Hancock can provide; fails… "Save the AL from an attack!!" or "Force Hancock to attack Marijoes and destroy the WG!!"
Not much of any use there, right?
I'd take the two characters that don't have anything concerning this over the one that suggests two needless bits of stalled content, right?
What the hell is this mess? Does anyone understand what was going through agog's mind here when he decided to put this vomit across the internet and onto my monitor.
Really? Why don't you tell me how Jinbei feels about all that, please do… Cause Jinbei only comments about "significances" of such things, not how his own mind assumes stuff as. He never said anything about why he cares so much for FI, and if you ask me, he never even mentions a single thing about the slavery scandal. He's only all about Ace and WB cause of FI, but for no reason except that he has to be grateful...
If you don't get this, then I urge to show one thing about how important FI is to him.
Jinbei, as the former captain of the Sunny pirates, is a protector of Fishman Island. This island was heavily discriminated against by the World Government and Tenryuubito. Whitebeard extended his Yonkou influence and brought it under his protective cloak, thereby deterring any potential attacks in the future. This brought peace to the island, which is why Jinbei refused to fight against Whitebeard and was sent to Impel Down.
The Sunny Pirates also consisted of freed Fishman slaves.
You fucking cretin.
What do we need to know about her?
NOTHING
THATS THE POINT
You can't make the argument that Hancock and Jinbei won't join because we know nothing about them then use the same argument in favour of Perona.
Does she have anything to prevent her from joining, no…
Yes, she's a rubbish character who was beaten by Usopp the confirmed weakest SH.
Does she have a way to even be able to join, yes…
No, she's still looking for her "Moria-sama" and treasure.
Look at that!! We know more than enough about her, fascinating how easy we can sum up her entire argument
You haven't presented anything! Where is this invisible information, why is it not on my computer screen if you've so easily summed it all up.
The fact that Perona has barely any information in her background is what allows her to be such a great addition; we are talking about POTENTIAL here, sir.
By that same logic every character in One Piece has the possibility of being added. Is it that difficult?
The fact that she has a characterization that is different and a probable,
Oda rarely creates similar characters, this isn't something that can be used in favour of the useless tits on a stick named Perona.
possible occupation suggests that she's able to exist on their ship…
What possible occupation lol, ship whore?
Hancock: my marine led ship has to follow a guy, and then I have to magically leave my island to die… Or go save them.
The marines aren't running the ship, she is.
Jinbei: I always thought of FI as important, but I don't know why, however, I still have to go and do something at FI before I join; wait until then…
He's knocked the fuck out, he's being taken to the same place as Luffy on a gurney you dim-witted bovine.
Perona: "NW? sure!! Just let me get my ass on your ship and let's leave!! I've got nothing else to do, unless I wanna be on my own… You should have everything I need on your ship already, so let's just go... Oh yeah, I quit my old job; give me one here!!"
"Where is your invisible ship Zolo san!"
"What was my old job before, useless pair of gothic tits? I can surely fill that important role on your ship zolo kun "
"My fanbase consists of basement dwellers like agog, there's a clear market for this in manga which Oda won't pass up, believe it!"
Does it even seem like a joke to you?
Hancock and Jinbei need to have things removed, and Perona just needs to show up… How absurd this sounds, right?
The only thing more absurd than the garbage I'm reading right now is that you actually believe the shit. Wow just wow.
I have the screen time for Perona…
- Total Panels: 393 different panels.
- Physical Form: 159 different panels
- Spiritual Form: 145 different panels
- Horo Horo no Mi Spawns: 282 drawn ghosts.
- Miscellaneous: 115 appearances.
To find out more, click my sig's link… It shows everything in detail at the later parts.
Holy shit, I've seen a lot of pathetic things on the internet but this really is up there: a fat shit going through piece by piece counting each appearance of his flavour of the month based on nothing but his own vicarious wish fulfillment.
If I saw you drowning in a shallow stream I wouldn't think twice of walking past.
This is putting aside that all of Hancock's appearances have been intertwined strongly with the plot.
In terms of all that other stuff; Perona has helped Zoro
Hancock has helped Luffy to a much greater degree.
and her ghosts are favorable.
What do her ghosts have to do with anything.
She has a means to follow Zoro,
Hancock is following Luffy right now
and can even manage to head to the SH crew before they depart towards FI.
Hancock is heading there right now you bloody idiot, every argument you apply to Perona can be spun for Hancock as well to a much more effective degree.
Hancock has a bunch of marines
Bunch of fodder who we saw her completely manipulate
Perona's backstory can basically support any plot that involves the NW;
Hancock and Jinbei's backstories already completely support a well-established New World slavery angle.
her origin can date to that place,
When will you argue using facts rather than personal fanfiction wishes.
and therefore allowing her to have that support. Hancock has a fanfictional "damsel in distress" plot,
Oda wrote her, how is that fanfiction? what you're doing with Perona now that is pure fanfic.net
As far as development goes, Perona's personality is more dynamic, and far better than Hancock's.
No it isn't lol, that's just your bad taste. Anyone who is a fan of Perona or Hancock should be given a through beating.
Furthermore, her characterization is a lot more creative, radiant, and of course far better than Hancock's.
Now that language is completely inappropriate for a gothic loli death fashion pseudo guro crack whore. "Radiant"? Get off my lawn.
Lastly, she's not the same "age" or "appearance" as that of Robin, so to speak…
Now that you mention Robin, the macabre angle is already filled by Robin's dry observational personality.
Sorry agog!
She's even able to follow the mentality of the SH crew.
By being a prissy brat?
Hancock can, however, suck a dick and look good on panel drawings!!
This is the exact reason why you're a fan of Perona lol.
I do, you never look at it…
http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3318865&postcount=1There, it's there again.
That is almost as verbose and full of bullshit as the post I'm responding to. where's the new info?
Do you want me to explain?
You haven't explained anything yet, why would you even offer.
The fact that she has nothing holding her back;
Hancock has nothing holding her back.
Peeply Lulu has nothing holding him back.
Sodom and Gomorra have nothing holding them back.
See how easy it is to talk a load of shit? Now shut the fuck up.
Jinbei still needs FI to basically have a chance at joining, she doesn't need anything but to meet the group and say yes, or ask.
She has nothing that separates her from the rank and file of One Piece, that is what she needs.
:ninja:
The typical agog response, that is, posting a whole bunch of words but not actually responding.
Yeah, however, there are other times when I just care less and don't care for at all…
How can you even defend your post then, when you you've basically confirmed you don't give a shit about the crap coming out your anus right now.
Read the name of the guy who was actually asking me for a debate, just maybe?
Doesn't change the fact your post is full of illogical white noise.
Fine, I'll continue to laugh at you, and such…
The fact that you are even commenting about this, that's a funny joke!!
"HUHU IM NOT ACTUALLY BEING SLAUGHTERED…WHY DONT YOU ALL BELIEVE ME HUFHUF"
http://forum.onemanga.com/showpost.php?p=3318865&postcount=1
Yes, I am sure that you aren't able to connect "Zoro + SH CREW + [Perona has nothing else to do…] + Zoro's current island + blah blah blah = Joinage?"
It's all there, the whole thing is so easy to understand that I get bored of this…
Come back when you provide new information and a cogent argument. All of that has already been atomised, in this very thread no less
Not really, I feel that it would be one of the finest moments in the manga…
But you have a track record of bad taste and abominable posts. Excuse me if I don't agree.
Because I would be correct?
Because it would be horrible writing and a moment that contradicts everything One Piece has stood for until this moment.
No, we were always on about Gedatsu.
Yes, we can mutually agree here…
You're a fag and you should die in a fire.
Spoiler tags is obligatory for monster post.
"The future potential Peeply Lulu can provide is unlimited, we know nothing about his charactre!
Hey! Don't diss Peeply Lulu! He has a physics-defying cowlick that, when pushed back, can re-appear on other people's arms! (at least, I recall it doing that when he was fighting the Marines at one point)
@Corrado: Book smart, perhaps. Rational, nope. You're going to fit right into this thread. Welcome.
Hey! Don't diss Peeply Lulu! He has a physics-defying cowlick that, when pushed back, can re-appear on other people's arms! (at least, I recall it doing that when he was fighting the Marines at one point)
I laughed hard with that xDDDDDD
Aniway, now i'm just going to be neutral. I support Hancock for nakama (the others are just dreams: Galdino, bentham, buggy, crocodile). If Perona manages to be with the SH, then AGOG and herr sebe will rule this forum and the world. If not, then…
But i hope she doesn't joins...
This forum shall be ours!! :devil:
Although, I'm not 100% Perona supporter… As I've said lots of times, Hancock and "no one" are still rather likely imo…
- Jimbei is too much a veteran pirate to be joining a nebie crew like SH. The manga indicates Jimbei going to visit Whitebeard from time to time(who is located in the New World). This mean Jimbei knows the New World very while. Which would ruin the suprise of the SH sailing into the NW, if Jimbei gain guide and give details to NW islands.
I have to say, that's actually a valid point I haven't seen brought up. The level of knowledge he has could indeed be too great for the SH. Then again, we don't know exactly how the NW itself is laid out or how far he had to go to reach WB each time, or if he's been there for other reasons as well. He may know some aspects of it very well, but there could be plenty of other things even he doesn't know of. Who knows, maybe the experience he does have will be vital to the SH proceeding; not that he couldn't do that without joining, but Nami's basic know-how was pretty important on the onset, and Robin was quite experience herself when she joined. Even Brook was once an acting captain himself, not to mention a guard of a "certain kingdom", as he put it.
These would be things Oda has likely taken into consideration, but I do think the focus he's put on Jimbei has been getting more apparent, even for someone with a likely big part to play in the next arc.
Corrado,
I think I already know who you are…
[hide]@Corrado:
"Uhoh someone responding to a public message on an internet forum calling me out on my shit?? the NERVE"
How rude…
Perona has NEVER been with Luffy.
Oh my… I was just totally saying that, right? And, by the way, she has... Check Luffy getting OWNED by Negative Hollow when he ate through the cage, perfect chemistry, right?
So you completely skipped over the current arc which has placed almost every pirate participant in an uncertain future? How much more stupid can you get.
What can Perona do?! I am literally laughing here, you still don't get it do you?
Yes. I skipped Marineford… It's so boring...
I do get this: you can't get shit!!
The only solid proof we have about Perona…and you're whitewashing it. I completely expected that.
Sorry, you're wrong, Oda's words confirm Perona has a 0% chance of joining. Usopp beat here, suck a cock agog.
OK. I will bite.
You wanna play like a smartass, let's get out the quote:
@That:
Greg AT APFORUMS, his translation of the Interview of Oda + Luffy's VA
Tanaka wonders if it was even necessary considering the heavy impact of Luffy VS Usopp and comments on what a wonderful character is. Oda says he's the closest to a human in the series with everyone else being super human. He feels that as Usopp slowly gets stronger, his readers can feel the same way and get stronger too.That's the question, the question is in RED…
Oda's reply is in BLUE…
In reference to the question about Usopp, Oda replies that Usopp is closest to a "human" and everyone else is "superhuman"...
He doesn't state physical meaning, for he has the applicable option of meaning both mental, physical, and various other definitions known to man.
Moving on to the rest of the quote:
@Part:Same resource
Tanaka loves how when Luffy and team go off leaving Nami and Usopp behind then they both say, "Counting on you --;" Oda says there are certain things he wants to keep the same because it will just upset the balance. No matter who joins, he always wants Usopp to be the weakest, he always wants Chopper to believe Usopp's lies. There are just some weaknesses he wants them to carry._The RED stuff isn't even important… So, you don't have to care for it...
The BLUE is what the whole conversation is about… One such as yourself should be able to understand it... "He always wants Usopp to be the weakest..." is one of them, and the other is about Chopper's lies.
Of course, the whole entire sentence can be read many ways, especially since it is vague... But, the context of it applies towards this whole "human vs. superhuman" dilemma that Oda sparked.
So, let's reference them, for our purposes:
Superhuman
HumanObviously, the both of us were wrong as we were totally off-topic by stating "strength as a means of judgment towards his context. It isn't stated in that whole quote, so we shouldn't have done that… Even though I was aware of that, I just replied to continue the worthless argument anyway...
Anyhow, the point is that Usopp will remain "closer" to Human, which you can pick anything in that whole thing... So, it means that Usopp is more human than every other character in the crew. That is the fact that we can claim it to be, everything else beyond that is an automatic assumption.
So, if you wish to go on, please tell me…
Reference the real quote, and I have a few links to this whole thing… It's also in Part Three of this thread topic, check it out.
Oda didn't suggest anything about "weakest" and such, he's merely stating he is "less" superhuman than the others, which can be kept "virtuous" as well with the very "ghastly" Perona joining. Usopp, remains "human" like.
Cause, if you want to get into the specifics, Nami's weaker than Usopp. Means, this whole thing fails.
"Hancock is attached to the island, this shows she won't join because…she
doesn't give a shit about the island"
You never cease to amaze me.
Good…
the mental gymnastics you are performing right now should land you in psychotropic therapy.
It's not a fact, it's an attack based on the fact he's fat. How does that negate his chances. It's akin to "Chopper is a reindeer he won't join"
I often thought I was insane…
Being fat is a fact. He is FAT, yes?
The claim is that this "size" will conflict with the ship's specifications, and that needs to be resolved. That's also a fact; he should be the type to conflict with the spacial surroundings. The "opinion" is on what course of action Oda may take, if any...
Fact is fact; Oda has a fat guy that will have trouble walking about. Opinion is that it's important, or that it isn't...
You DID go to college, right? Dumbass...
Not the first thing that went completely over your head.
In the manga we know as "One Piece" which is a series… Yeah, you know... It is THERE, inside...
You want me to read the manga for you; pay me a few thousand that your "degree" should have covered in expanses… I don't want to teach you how to read characterization, for free that is. I'm not a charity...
Perona is a completely bland side cannon fodder worth less than a shit. That is pretty accurate. Now dig yourself out of that dump hole.
Yet ~ she's in a very surprising situation where that "shit" can be a permanent shithole that remains shitting up the SH ship… How shitty is that?
Shitty shit shit!! ~ Using offensive words to insult a 2-D character doesn't suggest that you are wise, nor does it suggest anything... Just means that you are incredible and unable to read context, or "text" or even look at pictures for that matter... What on earth am I thinking? You just FAIL at looking at still images, how PATHETIC can you be, eh?
…yeees...
Glad you agree to the above…
She is as close to the Marines as Luffy is…in case you missed it, this very arc she has actively been fighting against a whole host of them and just hijacked one of their ships, all the time being in love with the main character and captain of the Straw Hat Pirates, as well as one of the three world powers. So yeah she has a better connection in every sense.
Luffy is underwater, in a SUBMARINE heading lord knows where… with Pirates and such, as of Chapter 580.
Let's see, Hancock is basically on a ship, in some random spot that we don't know of... Asking Marines to chase something, and has no real logical reason to do anything, but fail...
Now, even if you excuse the means of how she's supposed to find him; by chance, it doesn't even suggest anything...
Take Perona:
She's on island that seems to be isolated, and holds very few inhabitants [toll is not at two confirmed and an unconfirmed thing]… Aside from her, Zoro is there.
She's shown little desire to remain on that island, according to the manga and seems to want to leave somehow.
Did I mention that Zoro fails at directions and has a means of which he is forced to rely on them?
Furthermore, if you take the two of them and pluck them together, like they are, doesn't it seem likely that someone who needs someone else to leave will both miraculously work together to leave? I think so.
This means, since Zoro is supposed to return after all this war nonsense settles down and stuff, Perona should be with him then.
Unlike the Hancock that basically is blindly chasing him, Perona is there with a reliable, and able, guide to him.
Which of the two do you feel will be able to find him? Oh yes, you are a genius and pick Hancock cause you feel that she's just !!
The future potential Peeply Lulu can provide is unlimited, we know nothing about his charactre!
Of course… We need to know more!! Now, make more up, please.
Why can't you stay on track the argument, it's not that hard.
Because I don't have the same edumacation as you do…
What the hell is this mess? Does anyone understand what was going through agog's mind here when he decided to put this vomit across the internet and onto my monitor.
Diarrhea, it was very rough…
Jinbei, as the former captain of the Sunny pirates, is a protector of Fishman Island. This island was heavily discriminated against by the World Government and Tenryuubito. Whitebeard extended his Yonkou influence and brought it under his protective cloak, thereby deterring any potential attacks in the future. This brought peace to the island, which is why Jinbei refused to fight against Whitebeard and was sent to Impel Down.
I know all this, but why was he protecting FI? Cause of Fisher Tiger? Cause he is fat and the word hates him? Cause he likes Ms. Mermaid Princess? Cause he wants to?
The lack of edumacation in you astounds me… What "collage" did you head to? The idiocy collage album of stupid people?
The Sunny Pirates also consisted of freed Fishman slaves.
Yes, and I'm sure Jinbei is one because he … Wait, we have nothing to claim this. How CARELESS!!
You fucking cretin.
They say that if you pick up a recyclable product, you can earn money from it… How impressive?
NOTHING
NIL
THATS THE POINT
Correction: THAT'S THE POINT or THAT IS THE POINT!!
You can't make the argument that Hancock and Jinbei won't join because we know nothing about them then use the same argument in favour of Perona.
Yes, I literally can. Cause there's a reason to this!!
It's rather easy, I'm surprised that this is happening…
Yes, she's a rubbish character who was beaten by Usopp the confirmed weakest SH.
You mean, "the character that I assume Oda claims is the weakest by a word and meaning that Oda never claimed and I was too CARELESS to look up the source!!"
Of course you do, now please give me a lollipop in advance. Thanks, and NO questions or whining.
No, she's still looking for her "Moria-sama" and treasure.
Yes… She's also looking for her blanket and her magic school bus.
Let's see, "Moria" is something you assumed. She never said a damn thing about what she wants from him... And the latter is on the Thousand Sunny...
How CARELESS!!
You haven't presented anything! Where is this invisible information, why is it not on my computer screen if you've so easily summed it all up.
Here:
[hide]
[[COLOR=Red]Theory] Perona's Temporary Experience
Author's Notes:
! I would like to say that this whole entire theory is basically about the idea concerning how they get around the New World early on, which is basically a connection towards a certain character, and it's totally NOT about her joining permanently or something of that sort… It DOES address that potential, but it doesn't state it must happen.
! I don't want to read someone telling me that I don't know what I am talking about or bringing up some character that doesn't matter at all. Please, do understand that this is totally consistent with Perona-chan's known PLOT contribution and why on earth she's there in the first place, so keep it towards the topic, and not towards Hancock, Bon-chan, Jinbei, or some other character…
! So, in case you guys aren't aware that this is a Perona theory, be warned now: it's a Perona theory.
! Enjoy!!
! Note: all of my information is based off of this page…
Introduction:
! My theory is based on the principle of Cause and Effect towards something being done:**~**A cause is something that makes another something happen or occur. It is the first of two consecutive events that occur. Usually, people question a cause by asking, "Why did it happen?"
**~**An effect is something that is the result of another something that happened beforehand or occurred prior to the "effect" within two consecutive events. It takes place after a cause or happens to be the finality of an event. Usually, people determine an effect by asking, "What happened?"
**Here's some examples of this in effect:**The boy kicked the ball. [CAUSE]
The ball rolled. [EFFECT]
! Sally studied for the test. [CAUSE]
Sally earned an "A" on the test. [EFFECT]
! Joe ate the poisoned food. [CAUSE]
Joe got food poisoning. [EFFECT]
So, this is what my theory is based on, as this is the reference/ inspiration towards the whole work.
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Overview:
! [[COLOR=Black]Cause] : Perona is re-introduced into the story's constant plot-line.
[[COLOR=Black]Effect] : Perona will have further use to the plot that exceeds her current situation and will grow towards the future.
! According to the details that are revealed, we can assume that she's bound to run into the strawhat crew and then, upon further and more detailed examination, we can infer that she's going to be a traveling companion– which could easily grow towards her being a permanent crew member, if need be.
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Detailed Explanation of the Cause …
! Prologue
! Perona is a very interesting character, for many reasons, but the most interesting one is her official introduction that is something different compared to many others: INTRODUCTION.
! Some things to note within this panel:
! * She is shown on the Thousand Sunny, the future of Franky's dream and basically the official 'home' of the Straw Hat Crew.
! The reason why this is severely important is because of the literal interpretation that we could gather from this, such as:
! * Foreshadowing of her being on the ship.
! Of course, this doesn't mean she will be important yet, just means that it is something Oda may be doing for a reason… We'll find out later though.
! However, this is not the only thing can be inferred from the panel, there's more:
! * Her being pictured, and placed, near or across Chopper provides a characterization that suggests she's similar to Chopper, yet very different… A terrific compare and contrast mechanism. The obvious thing is that Chopper and her seem to have many similarities, based upon characterization, and most of them are specific and unique. Furthermore, she's very different than him, both in appearance and even in personality. Even though they seem similar, they're miles (kilometers) apart... And they are. Her enormous like of cute things and various other scary-themed things create a difference between her and Chopper, furthermore, her exterior characterization is more mature than her interior characterization which happens to be child-like, however, for Chopper, it is the direct opposite. Oda may be performing a comparison between the two, one happens to hover about Zoro's leg on one side and the other on the other leg… Perona's beside his left, meanwhile, Choppers holds onto the right firmly.
! Of course, this is just interpretation of the design and we could continue doing this, but technically speaking, it doesn't lead to any conclusion… It merely attempts to create justification of some possible future interpretations of characterization involving Perona...
! Act I
! After that, the next time Perona appears on-panel is this page: PERONA.
! She comes in as Brook is about to play his musical instrument, which may infer something as a "metaphor" or whatever, but personally I have no real explanation on why a ghost appearing in the middle of a situation like that would mean anything… Regardless, this may infer some future interaction that Perona surely loves songs and wishes to hear them, but the thing that happens here is basically that she's met every single character from the SH crew at this very moment.
! After that, we are told how it works… A barrel, floating cask, is left out to float about in the vast ocean, where it holds a hidden flashing bullet that acts as a signal to locate travelers, and this "ghost" is flying about tracking the moments of that object that triggers the signal. Of course, the whole tracking feat is impressive because of the range and distance involved, concerning that it must have been a great distance since the time they were traveling after that barrel had been opened was pretty much past the storm and further into the Florian Triangle... Personally, the storms are vast in size, so it seemed to be, and the distance about was pretty large concerning Thriller Bark and the Thousand Sunny. This implies that the ghost had to have a skill and swiftness to be able to manage its way across the whole sea section… Otherwise, it probably wouldn't have made it there. Another thing that the ghost was responsible for was to gather information concerning the target's identity and what they had done. Of course, the ghost had to be able to do quite a number of things before the Thousand Sunny was captured by the Thriller Bark flagship. It is unknown whether or not the ghost had to signal a direction for the vessel to travel just to meet the Thousand Sunny, but the idea seems to be there... It may have been a signal that allowed the Thriller Bark ship to find the location, exact, of the target's ship. Considering this, the ship was technically tracked and invaded by a ghost that would supply the group with enough information to perform the duty that the ghost was supposed to perform... Meaning, the ghost had a terrific skill that allowed it to capture this target.
! Regardless, the ghost completely had incredible experience at the task that it had to perform, even though it seemed far too easy for the ghost. There are multiple possibilities concerning the ghost, and it seems to be that the ghost actually did a lot of other additional things too, for instance, the ghost may have searched the whole ship before it popped up in the middle of Brook's conversation.
! Then, after Brook leaves and such, we are shown another interesting PANEL that could infer foreshadowing for the future once again… It's something to ponder over, because of the singular hint that Luffy wants to capture that ghost (and tame it when you read Steven's Translation of the manga...) and keep them. This can refer to future events which translate that Luffy will "tame" Perona and HAVE her as his nakama, which is basically befriend her in the future. Does it mean much at the current moment? No. It's very insignificant, and so on... At first glance, it's totally unimportant.
! Act II
! Here's why: REUNION… The ghost isn't favored anymore and it seems like Perona's not as important as she used to be prior to this panel. Luffy is shown to NOT hold the same interest as he had been shown in the introduction of this arc. So, this cancels the idea that the ghost is that important, but it brings up some other thing too… The idea that Luffy STILL wants that ghost, or that he wants to MEET it again. Which is somewhat -negative- towards that ghost, but the meeting situation is just prolonging that Perona is able to come in contact with Luffy again.
! Of course, prior to that, Oda spent the time to show reactions from Luffy, such as it "dancing and multiplying" and having Luffy's character consider that action very cool and such. Then, the repetition of him "catching and keeping [him]" was also done… Which is fairly suggestive towards a future "catch and keep" event, maybe? It does build the interaction between Luffy and the ghost, furthermore, it does build some sort of future bond that could happen, which is a good thing. Another interesting thing is that the ghost isn't "solid" and cannot be harmed by intangible things either, like "fire" and such... It allows the duty to be easily completed by the ghost, the duty the ghost is asked to perform. Nonetheless, the ghost is shown to have an impressive resume at what job/ duty the ghost must do on the island, however, the ghost isn't that impressive yet.
! Then, after Oda makes her character interaction less forthcoming, Oda has Sanji discuss and describe that the ghosts are more mysterious and special/ different than the other active creates with numbers running around, in other words, she's a unique individual among many, similar creatures. A good thing since many of the nakama are considered "one-of-a-kind" or "unique" in some way or form...
! Act III
! After that, she's shown a physical appearance and nothing special about it… If you feel the need to compare it with Strawhat Characters appearances, then please do so here: Perona's Appearance…
! * Luffy: Villager Boy Appearance, Monkey D. Luffy, Cooking Servant,
! Regardless, there's nothing to go on since they aren't all the same anyway. We could easily skip the details, and I didn't include all of the introductions, however, you can observe and try to find a similarity between them, even though I doubt that there is one…
! Then, Oda uses her to raid the ship of everything that was placed inside it... SHIP RAID. The reason isn't all that important, all it shows is how the Thriller Bark group survives deep in their solitude and such, just shows their daily lifestyle that they live through. It seems to be that Perona is just carrying supplies from the targets and moving them towards storage, which just seems to suggest that this has been going on for ten years and such, it's NOT really important though. At least, it's not currently important… Furthermore, she also had a lot of time and information concerning various things involving that "Ghost Network" prior to this. If you click the research link (in the Author's Notes section), you'll get a picture of Perona's duties on the island, for her stay there... Personally, she's been in charge of doing stocking and intelligence work. Sort of like an inventory expert and intelligence expert in recon work, officially, she seems to control the ship's every detail and knows a lot of the going-ons on the ship. Obviously, she's more than able to manage things and such.
! Act IV
! Aside from that, she's shown to have a great grasp of knowledge concerning politics, such as pirates defeating Shichibukai and such. Even though she's able to know this, she's not completely obsessed with it. For instance, she was very casual with her response towards that event, like she didn't really take it as a big deal that Luffy defeated Crocodile. Nonetheless, she's able to gather information from things that were covered up, whether that has to do with Moria's position, or her own ability, is unknown. However, the fact is that she's well informed, or seems to be informed in some sense. Moving on…
! Seemingly, when I read this manga around the Thriller Bark arc, I usually don't seem to take much interest in Perona (because she is removed from the plot line around the end...), but there is a few segments that seem to be fairly important: SEGMENT ONE holds an impressive fact, Perona shows experience in real-life situations. In other words, she has an understanding that no matter how harsh life is, people try to move forward regardless of that sort of life. So, I assume and believe that this shows some foreshadowing that Perona has basically experienced something harsh in her past, which explains why she's trudging along still, even though she's basically like she is… I'll explain this later, because of the future situation where she is shown in an unfavorable predicament. For now, just note this situation with some sense. This will be repeated once again on a future chapter as well where Perona seemingly reflects upon Usopp's way of life.
! But, it's pretty much just characterization at the core, nothing more... However, even though it is just characterization, it can be vastly important because of the potential that it brings to the plot, which is what leads to many characters joining in the first place... If her importance exists in some dreadful experience of the past, then she's exceptionally skilled at providing future storytelling.
! Act V
! Another interesting note is how Oda used Perona in her fight with Usopp… Not only could Oda have Perona use her strongest attacks against Usopp, she could have even took the initiative to actually kill the guy. ATTACK ONE and ATTACK TWO, both could have been used to defeat Usopp earlier in her fight, however, Oda chose to show characterization for Perona instead. The first thing he did was show that she's a little child that is fearful of certain situations, situations that have basically NEVER happened before: for instance, when she is shocked, she falls on her rear and comments upon it, the situation that shocked her. This has happened a few times, and she has fallen aback during those times. Anyhow, it shows that Perona is a human being that has fears and certain things hidden away. Does this matter? Yes. We all remember how Robin walked and talked without any worry at all, right? Then we met Admiral Ao Kiji (Kuzan) and that all changed when she apparently did the future things and showed trauma towards some past that she hid from others. This situation is basically something I think of when I am shown Perona. There is no reason for Oda to basically show so much detail within Perona's characterization unless he wishes to explain in the future, he has to show why she is so careless in her fight and he has to explain this in the future. When she fights Usopp, she is basically looking down on the man the whole fight, until he starts to show some actual ability. This is confusing from Perona's point of view, not only is she first and foremost shown as a character which is extremely responsible, she is also shown to have a serious side… However, Oda ignores all that he has done, and shows Perona as a bashful character that enjoys wasting her time fighting a character that could have been defeated long ago. Remember, she has a time limit and a strict assignment that she volunteered to do on her own accord. Her respect is on the line, and everything, but she's basically shown to PLAY around with Usopp the whole fight and takes it easy on him. Oda writes her fight as a joke. The first thing he does is show that Perona is basically afraid and fearful. Oda has her run, rather than use her special, on account of some -unexplained- fear of some unprecedented phenomena, Usopp being immune to her Horo Horo no Mi's Negative Ghost. Then, after Oda isolates her into a situation with Usopp and forces her to have a one-on-one with Usopp, she is shown basically to not be fearful and have confidence now… Which is something drastic. However, he shows her in a completely different situation and he shows her in complete dominance against Usopp. Half-way through the fight, he has her basically summon Mini-Holo and shows that Perona can hurt Usopp in a bizarre way. Even though he kept this a secret because otherwise Usopp would have lost and such, it does show that Perona has an innate ability to defeat Usopp completely, yet she stalled that ability greatly. Eventually, after a lot of panels and such, Oda starts the counterattack. Usopp transforms into Sogeking and defeats Kumacy, then he runs. Perona is shown plenty of characterization here, however, the interesting thing is that she's surprised by the change in Usopp's demeanor, but she never uses her stronger attack to avenge the fallen comrade of hers. This shows that she was merely enraged, but she's not acting upon it. Once again, this is Oda basically limiting Perona's ability so that Usopp could win. Then, after some more fighting, Usopp finds her body. Even though Oda could have basically used Perona to get serious at the very start, like she's supposed to have gotten, he doesn't. He leaves her to just stand and watch … Then, after the first attack, Oda has Perona use an even stronger attack-- WHICH could have defeated Usopp LONG LONG LONG ago… Why now? Of course, the answer is to have Usopp win, on account of Perona being able to take out the rest of the Strawhats once Usopp is down. Then, Oda changes the tide and shows more characterization which consists of Perona being a victim and introduces fears for her. Last time an enemy had any fears at all, can you name it? I can't. So, we are introduced numerous characterization for her character, even though she passes out around the end after the fake mallet pops. She is currently removed from the plot line once again, she's basically DONE here. Unconscious as any character would be after they are defeated, reference the Skypiea Arc for examples of how unconscious characters end up being removed from the plot line until they eventually wake up at the very end of the arc and such. Perona is bound to basically come back in the far far far future, so we assume…
! Act VI
! So, we waited, and waited– suddenly, our wait is over: RETURN!! Surprise, surprise! Perona's back!! Yes, however, this was all too sudden.
! Then, after some interesting moments, she's conscious: CONSCIOUS PERONA. It is also sudden, and it shows and addresses her hate for cockroaches, as well as several other things. It continues with the characterization, but for what good? Oda keeps bringing her back and expressing human qualities in a character that seems to remain minor and unimportant, for what reason? I assume that she may have a future that's worth something, which is acceptable. So, he introduces something for Perona to do: fill up their ship with supplies. In the process he also leaves some situations for Perona to believe… Hogback may be dead, she heard that he was crushed by Oars. Absolam was last known to be around the General Zombies, but she heard that they were all crushed by Oars, which may mean that Oars also did in Absolam who has last told to her of being near them. This leaves her with two things: Oars is looking for a girl, and the Strawhat Crew is looking for Moria. Perona assumes that Oars is taking out everyone and everything, like he rampaged away before and is trying to take over the ship (Probably So…) and the Straw Hat Crew is after Moria. She's basically stuck; Moria is being chased after by both Oars and Strawhat Crew… Which could baffle her completely. Instinctively, Oda has her rely on her natural instincts and run for her safety. 10 years of history is tossed out the window and Perona's characterization is instantly altered. So, the idea is that Oda is basically using all of this to stock up the ship with supplies. However, for what reason? There could be an introduction of the Strawhat Crew having to escape very quickly, or something like that… Maybe that's why. Regardless, the whole thing stresses that Perona hasn't DONE anything at all, she has basically failed at all her tasks that she is supposed to be doing for Thriller Bark, which is interesting due to her having 10 years of experience in this act, yet this one group manages to make her life completely strange and confusing when all the things she knows basically start to disappear.
! So, let's recap about what Perona has done in the manga up to this point:
! * Found and located the targets that triggered the flashing bullet.
! Of course, this doesn't do much of anything, now does it? She's basically done only a few things, I've used "bold" to exemplify the ones that she managed to do… Fascinating isn't it, she's helped the SH crew more than the Thriller Bark organization that she has worked for...
! Act VII
! After another deeper description of her characterization, by revealing various excerpts concerning her past… He basically does a general hint that says "Perona wasn't always there" concerning Thriller Bark history. Not only does he change things by showing that Hogback is the newest (and most current recruit), and that her entire characterization is very flawed... I.e. her dream country couldn't have been what she joined Moria for since he did not HAVE Hogback in his group prior to getting Perona, as well as showing that Perona's reason to actually join Moria isn't completely known. Oda plays it off and leaves it a mystery, even though he rarely ever did that. With other side characters, he showed how certain characters did something with each other every time. He showed how groups were formed in one form or another, however, with Perona he doesn't even state it in any way. Depending on the translation, you can assume Perona joins for "fun" or you can assume that she never says anything about how she joined– Steven has a translation saying that she didn't join for "fun" and makes no comment on how she joined. ATTACK USAGE is also revealed, which shows that Perona can summon the Mini-Hollow without having to basically use Astral Projection Form. It also shows that she could have easily defeated Usopp. In addition, Oda also takes the time to have her provide a nickname for Usopp, which is interesting enough. Without any need to do so, Oda keeps building her character and introducing brand new characterization for no real reason. After all, we all don't expect her character to do anything… She's just a henchman to Moria, so we think. But, with each waning moment, she is continually shown that she's important to the plot. Why? We don't know that yet. Anyhow, after all of this characterization, and such, Oda basically shows her character vanishing completely. Meaning, he wasted a lot of panels just having her character there, and when she vanished, he did this: KUMA. Take note of the panel where Kuma wrote something down in his Bible that he carries, and the thing that we assume he wrote down is where she wished to go on a vacation… Or so we assume. Now, what does this mean anyway? Who knows.
! In order to better understand her affiliation to Moria, we must actually try and understand for what reason she joined... The first thing we know is that she never officially seems to hint any sort of reason for joining Moria, we also don't know the location. All we seem to know is that she has joined Moria before he visited Hogback's location (unknown) and that must have been after Moria's former crew was completely annihilated, due to what knowledge we later hold concerning Moria's defeat to Kaidou. According to Perona, and Oda's story telling, the whole entire "I want a dream country full of zombies!!" comment could not have been a motive. Reason being that unless some other character existed that could create zombies for her, there was really no possible way to have her make zombies and create "cutesy" ones for that matter. She's without any official motive that explains why she even joined this man. So, the known information is that Moria seemed to know a good deal of information about Hogback's exceptional talent and offered to bring back Hogback's love, and that did happen. However, before that was able to be done, it seems that Perona's zombie faction was created "first" because of them being numbered lower than the later models… Meaning, before Cindry-chan existed, logically speaking, it seems to be that Hogback had over 400 zombies to practice with, Perona's factions. Since Perona controls the Wild Zombies and Surprise Zombies, which are number 0 through 399, it means that maybe the order was ascending towards a higher number... So, this may suggest that Perona had a hasty child-like desire to hold a massive group of people to obey her command, and in this respect Hogback came and created that for her... Maybe, she brought this upon herself... Maybe not. The thing is that she's the one which should have had zombies before Absolam's forces were finished, which may mean that she had more power, early on, than the others. Nonetheless, she was young and such. It is completely unknown what the information concerning her past and such may exist, however, it still is there to be judged though.
! Act VIII
! However, there's plenty of things that have been done within this whole arc:
! * Perona's characterization was built.
! The important things concern what she offered to the future, in terms of plot… The first is that she stocked up all the supplies and more for the Straw Hat Crew. The second is that she's basically shown to have been involved with all, but two characters, in-person: Robin and Brook. She has basically been used as a character without any meaning at all, she failed at her duties at Thriller Bark:
! * She didn't gather enough information on the Strawhat Crew.
! In truth, she's a complete FAILURE.
! Perona ultimately had enormous potential, but she failed incredibly… As Gold Roger (the member) and alexmedvenc put it best: Perona FAILS**!_!_
! I often question why on earth Oda had done all of this characterization just to lead towards her being so worthless in every sense known towards PLOT!_!**_ My only thought about this is that all of this has been an act of irony, or something just as harsh. Regardless, I officially STOPPED thinking about Perona for a very long time because I was blinded by the minor hints that Oda showed. I thought that this is the end of her character, and if she is shown again, we'll just get a cover arc or something concerning a conclusion, which, to me, isn't even needed as long as we are told that Kuma's powers basically end up granting her wish.
! Epilogue
! Perona's character seems to end right there… So, I had thought!!
! Here's some things that Oda keeps using to continue showing that Perona is forgotten, but not gone from the plot:
! * Nami wears a clothing that seems to be related to Perona.
! Technically speaking, Oda could be using enormous amounts of foreshadowing and hinting to express why Perona is important, or he is just mindlessly, thoughtlessly just doing 'coincidences' that seem to be related to her.
! Of course, none of this is that impressive at the moment… She's only BA~CK!!
! This is the cause, our cause… Why is Perona back anyway? She has no real reason to come back in the first place... So, we have defined our entire cause, therefore, we can move on towards the effect that it would bring towards the plot...
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Detailed Explanation of the Effect …
! Prologue
! Perona is once again BACK… How surprising...
! The situation is easy to grasp: she's with Zoro, alone, and on an island that she officially had wanted to be on, however, she's currently completely displeased with her predicament.
! She officially doesn't want to be here anymore, and she's officially returned for no real reason at all. Not that she's a necessity compared to all the other characters that were introduced by Oda for everyone except Zoro:
! * Luffy is shown on an island, full of a whole new group of characters, and no one familiar to him.
! Officially, every person would wonder what Oda is going to do with this… He has a billion characters he could have come up with just so that Zoro can have the needed equipment to return to SA and whatever else Oda wants to do...
! For instance:
! * Luffy has Boa Hancock lend him a hand and then is shown a bunch of characters that plot his course back to SA for him.
! However, for Zoro, none of this is even shown… In fact, other than Perona, the whole island's a wreck and there's some shadow coming into view... Furthermore, the whole entire 'coincidence' factor seems to be completely unusually towards what Oda is trying to do with this whole entire situation...
! This much we know... Zoro's screwed, extremely screwed.
! Act I
! Just for a reference, there's something strange:
Zoro's cover arc serial has one more page than every other straw hat serial [minus Luffy's arcs worth of content]… It has 5. All others have only 4.
! 2 pages per initial setup and then 2 pages after that, however, Zoro started with 3 pages and then had two more ... Reason? Who knows.
! So, let's examine the plot... and what may happen.
! First, Zoro:
! * His dream is to defeat Mihawk and become the greatest swordsman. [Therefore] we know of where Mihawk is located, so due to the story only being half-way done, we can assume that the war is not a place where Zoro will be taken to.
! With this, we can understand a few problems that Oda introduced:
! * Zoro is lost.
! There is no solution that forces every problem to be addressed, none at all… However, there is something that's important: Zoro MUST return to the Straw Hat Crew, i.e. Thousand Sunny on SA.
! We know this… This is all we know, concerning the events. We don't know when he will return, but we can be sure that it is AFTER the war ends, due to Mihawk being present.
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! Act II
! Now, the idea of how he returns is unknown… It has some problems though.
! First off, he is on an island that has basically one character there that's confirmed alive, however, that character has no idea of what's going on with that island, nor does that character have any clue of where she is. This says that he cannot ask for help and quickly find his way towards a desirable location, therefore, he must have a lot of time wasted to find resources and other things needed to make a trip.
! The second is his own inability to basically follow directions [[U]A/N: if you don't believe that this is what happens in the manga, I encourage you to actually reference the stuff and do try to expand… I refuse to keep spoonfeeding all that read this, you ought to know how to find things with relative ease, don't be afraid of referencing and minor details. So, if you don't accept this, then get your lazy *** to look it up and then after -finding it true-, try again. You'll realize that I am indeed correct, and please don't BS me with that "It's just a gag!!" crap, cause it's being used in a literal sense here, and that's pretty impressive...]:
! * When Zoro was basically introduced, Oda had enough sense to foreshadow that Zoro officially got lost, and has been wandering around… He basically cannot get back to his home island because he literally does not know how. This is the standard concerning Zoro, when dealing with directions on his very own, he fails. Remember this.
! So, all of this is truthful, in every sense… Zoro has had this happen every time the following has happened:
! * The first part is that Oda shows Zoro acting cocky in some way and saying that he knows how to do it… [concerning direction].
! Those are the steps to this very 'gag,' as some people put it. I like to basically look at this and examine it for further reference… It's not a 'gag' and cannot be one because in literature, authors tend to make a set condition that foreshadows certain events to come, after a very prolonged series has enough characterization to have this involvement happen. In order to continually use this, they transform this into a "characterization" rather than a one-time quickly used gag of some sorts. Therefore, when you see it happen, you aren't bored of it, but instead you are assured that this character has a unique trait and quality that happens to exist. So, to you, having a character that's lost is natural and expected... Therefore, the idea that it'll entertain you is dependent on how it happens. Which is the important thing. Oda changes the experience by actually showing a new insight in the means of how Zoro is lost, which changes the comedy involved within that unique personality quirk.
! So, according to this 'quirk' of Zoro's personality, he is doomed to be lost... Here's why:
! * Zoro has stated that he knows how to use the vivre card.
! This is foreshadowing of a future event to come, the event is that Zoro will need help from an exterior -thing- that will help him find his way towards SA. He, alone, is destined to fail; therefore, with some help, he will actually find his way back.
! This is the literature in play, and we can assume that Oda is foreshadowing some character to assist Zoro in the end to help him return.
! The problem is who will help him… We have very little information shown:
! * Perona
! From the five pages that have any insight towards the current plot-line concerning Zoro, we are only shown three possible scenarios. The last, something completely not pictured yet… This means that it'll just happen all of a sudden and is totally random. Of course, this is the least likely candidate. The second is a newly revealed thing that doesn't even seem to do anything… It's completely absurd to assume this object of some sorts is introduced to help solve the problem, which is basically not even confirmed to be solved from this object… And the last, and best solution is Perona. She has been shown being able to follow a flashing signal from miles and miles away, and successfully find the vessel that set it off, some odd time ago.
! Of all of the shown/ revealed details, Perona is a confirmed character towards the problem. She can follow a one-directional piece of paper. Everything else is basically unknown concerning that direction and Zoro is doomed to fail. So, we are introduced further foreshadowing that Perona has some future importance towards the plot, even though she's probable to just being a plot device thus far…
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! Act III
! Next, an important thing that's also needed is basically a way for Perona to basically do the action. Will she ultimately stoop so low to helping Zoro, or will she refuse.
! This is very important and also stressed that she's basically in a situation where she's got no choice to not do this action.
! Clearly, when we are shown her expression, we see she's not happy and on the verge of crying. Some may wonder, "why?"
! So, here's the facts… She's been on this island longer than 3 days, heck, she's probably been her for well over a week and then some. She's not with other people, this is shown because Oda wrote her seeking for 'servants' and other people even though she has her island of choice for a simple vacation… So, she's been very lonely for a whole week or longer. She's been there alone and she's basically bored. Furthermore, much to her disdain, she's completely and hopelessly LOST and unaware of where she may be... Her shouting "Where am I?" is proof enough. She's found a suitable living space as well, which is interesting. Now, remember that quote way way way up there when I said that she's seemingly experienced with the harshness of life? Well, here's the whole reference playing a part in the manga again. She's still living, and she's basically surviving on her own, she's not giving up on life and she's following up with her beliefs on it. She's living for something, even though she's basically got nothing left anymore.
! This is EXTREMELY important because Oda has shown motive and drive for her character in the long run, whatever she wants, she's willing to live through hardships and enormous setbacks to get it. He shows her as a character that is as enduring as the very cockroach she so-earnestly hates. Really well done, Sir Oda!!
! Furthermore, she's seemingly doing well, especially since she's on an unknown island. She's not panicking like she used to be, and it shows that she's been in this sort of environment once before. Otherwise, she'd have the same horrid reaction that she had when she met Usopp and saw him endure Negative Hollow without any shown reaction. Oda has basically shown an enormous amount of characterization for her. He also introduces something that she's never been shown, nor any villain had been shown prior to her... A reason to live, and a reason to continue forward. A will. So, she's got something to gain at the end, or something that she lives for. Whatever it may be, that's unknown, but she's going something she's living for in life and moving on even though things that are far too grand as obstacles seem to keep blocking her path/ journey.
! So, let's get to the point... Perona has something that she wants in life. She's showing complete disgust in her current situation, and wants out. Furthermore, she's got something she wants to do and that something has nothing to do with this place at all... Due to her wanting out. She's stuck here though, at least for now. Even though it has been quite a while since she was gone, she's still surviving even though so many things are against her. She's very strong.
! Of all of the things that she lacks to leave, the most obvious is that she's unaware of where she is and therefore isn't going to head out towards an unknown location, at least not without any sort of guidance. This says that she's smart enough to understand how to travel around and such, which is great. So, we are shown that she's basically hoping for people and a way out.
! Solution: Zoro enters.
! Her brings in a method of navigation and he is her savior... This shows that she's able to escape. Will she?
! Here, we are shown that she's got enough desire to nurse him back to life, or try to… Of course, she removes his weapons and isn't planning on giving him his weapons again, which is something to note.
! Her situation is basically being with Zoro, for the moment, and holding his swords as some sort of hostage... Motives, of course, remain unknown.
! Fast forward a bit, and we are shown that Zoro has his swords back and Perona's floating about in the background... Why? We don't know. However, this brings up a cause... Our main cause: "What role does Perona bring forth to the plot that has to have her return like she has done so...?"
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! Act IV
! Our entire question is probably entered by the idea that she's basically needed for Zoro to return to the ship and his crew. That's the idea concerning her being a plot device. Now, what will happen after that?
! We know this:
! * Zoro and Mihawk cannot meet, at least not at this current stage of the manga.
! So, we understand this much, but none of this explains anything. We can hypothesize that Perona will be the person to assist him in navigation. We can assume he'll find a device to travel with, on that island. We can also assume that he'll end up returning after a set amount of days, most likely after the Marineford Battle ends.
! We know that much. So, let's examine things:
! * Zoro needs to rest a little bit for his injuries to heal, he may rest three days or so, which may be elongated or whatever. We know he will rest, probably would range for a week.
! So, we can be aware that the future, after "x" number of days, Zoro will be on the Thousand Sunny, where Rayleigh is foreshadowed to be… With Perona in tow.
! That's what we can assume, and that's as fact as we can speculate it without adding unknowns and undefined variables... It's as safe as we can place it.
! Epilogue
! So, now that we know the general plot that is foreshadowed by Oda, we can assume that much and only that much: Perona will travel with Zoro and head towards the Thousand Sunny/ Straw Hats. Everything else is irrelevant. That's the effect of the cause concerning her being re-introduced into this particular situation. No strings attached, nothing beyond reason– it's all SAFE and TRUE.
! Disagree? Please, voice your opinion concerning this, but that's the known involving all revealed situations... Nothing concerning this is "Fanfiction" or anything beyond belief. It's subjunctive, with support, and that's speculation, however, I haven't made up anything that isn't stated... Just interpreted it with more logic and induced literal elements to examine things in a far more reliable sense, concerning the overall story and its own existence.
! This concludes the cause and effect summary of this theory, next is the stated THEORY in text… Enjoy!!
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Conclusion of Cause and Effect …
! We've basically come to the conclusion that Perona will be on SA with Zoro after an unknown amount of days and so on…
! So, in order to claim that she will be a TEMPORARY passenger on their ship, the whole entire situation must be recognized even further:
! What awaits her:
! * Known facts show that there will be the following people there:
* Nami
* Usopp
* Sanji
* Rayleigh
* Zoro
* Robin
* Brook
* Chopper
* Caimie
* Hatchi
* Shakky
* Luffy
* Franky
* A whole lot of random people… As shown within the WB war and all the people that were shown around SA when the Straw Hats first arrived.
! The crucial point is her connection to the people present, and KNOWN to be there after the trip with Zoro… She's got a freaky old man that's basically OLD... A scary spider-like lady that seems scary... A bunch of fish-people and creatures that'll be on the Thousand Sunny... As well as the Strawhats, which will be the first and foremost option. Or, she'll have the option to solo it all and head towards the unknown and find her own destiny.
! Obviously, any person can see that there's MORE, and pretty much DOMINATING in every sense, REASON for her to select the SH crew over other situations... Furthermore, she's got stuff on that ship that belongs to her, which would leave her a sense of ease. In addition, she'll have a person she KNOWS a little over a bunch of random people like Shakky and Rayleigh; Zoro is that person.
! So, to her, the most logical choice is Zoro, and his crew. Her characterization is immense and shows great potential towards interaction with the SH crew. So, we are given enormous insight of the future involving Perona and the SH crew.
! This is HER [Perona] having a reason to pick something over nothing and I strongly suggest the nothing because of what has been foreshadowed for others to assume.
! However, there's something that seems to halt this event, or some minds assume it does… Moria.
! Here's him: Moria…
! That's the last time we saw that fool, since then, Luffy unleashed his haki and then some... So, the game is "Let's find MORIA!!" on this page…
! Whoever finds him, please do tell us...
! Anyhow, people assume that Perona wants to head back to Moria and will head back to him, after helping Zoro... However, reality doesn't agree.
! She doesn't state it that way, and the idea that Moria will be there, near the ship, is also ridiculous.
! Truth is that Perona has limited options and she'll probably head towards the SH crew over the unknowns…
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! So, with all that has been shown, we can assume that she will be a temporary person, a person that may have their all-too-well-developed-characterization stressed and defined in the future. The remaining portions of this theory basically state that Perona has a chance to portray the Vivi-like guide towards the early portions of the New World, and I assume that her future plot is actually this.
! Because, as far as we know, she's been hopeless towards PLOT up to this point, and may remain that way, however, Oda could easily provide this connection due to the known history of Moria.
! My personal opinion, based on the manga, says that Perona will have a future and therefore the effect that bringing her back into the plot brings is that she'll be there to assist them in the New World… Either she connects them towards some new saga, or obstacle, or she only guides them and eventually leaves some time in the future.
! If it is the former, then she has a very high shot at being a real crewmember in the future, which depends on the Robin/Nami factor of Oda's storytelling...
! Thus, this concludes my theory on Perona's plot importance: she will be a temporary guide for the Straw Hat Crew, and probably able to be a crew member in the future...
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By that same logic every character in One Piece has the possibility of being added. Is it that difficult?
Prove it… I'm pretty sure that I'm going to enjoy your attempt.
Oda rarely creates similar characters, this isn't something that can be used in favour of the useless tits on a stick named Perona.
I like small titties on stickies… It's like a you-know-what… Ha ha ha
I'm seriously getting very bored of you. Please, make something more than this. Next time, try to leave your dick out of the picture, if you're a man...
What possible occupation lol, ship whore?
Only in your fantasies…
I was going along the lines of a professional Lookout, after all, I did think of it being more practical.
Whore isn't bad...
The marines aren't running the ship, she is.
Yes, she is… That's so assuring. Hancock's a genius at "running ships" and let's hope she becomes the Helmsman or Navigator to run more ships...
He's knocked the fuck out, he's being taken to the same place as Luffy on a gurney you dim-witted bovine.
Oh, excuse me… I totally forgot that Jinbei didn't care about FI and that he'll join right after he gets better...
"Where is your invisible ship Zolo san!"
"What was my old job before, useless pair of gothic tits? I can surely fill that important role on your ship zolo kun "
"My fanbase consists of basement dwellers like agog, there's a clear market for this in manga which Oda won't pass up, believe it!"
Lol… Yes, I like that stuff, and you know that AGOG people exist in the world, they are all over Japan...
You really make my day with this lewd stupidity of yours, it's so
The only thing more absurd than the garbage I'm reading right now is that you actually believe the shit. Wow just wow.
Are you a broken record? I've heard this before…
Holy shit, I've seen a lot of pathetic things on the internet but this really is up there: a fat shit going through piece by piece counting each appearance of his flavour of the month based on nothing but his own vicarious wish fulfillment.
Hmmm… Interesting.
This is very funny!!
No counter of how many panels Hancock has had, I'm very curious about this...
If I saw you drowning in a shallow stream I wouldn't think twice of walking past.
That's good to know. I wouldn't want you to infect me with your rabid stupidity… It is viral, I hear.
This is putting aside that all of Hancock's appearances have been intertwined strongly with the plot.
LOL… I can't stop laughing anymore.
Hancock has helped Luffy to a much greater degree.
Yes, yes… We all love a good ole' Bentham prodigy, don't we?
What do her ghosts have to do with anything.
They look SMEXY!! Doing the wave and all, it could be quite an amusing thing when we have ghosts doing the wave… Eh?
They also have no lips, or eyes... So, they look cool.
Did I mention that they are able to pass through walls, and peek in on Nami and Robin... Hohohoho!! Did this help your perverted mind, did it!?!?
Hancock is following Luffy right now
Hancock is heading there right now you bloody idiot, every argument you apply to Perona can be spun for Hancock as well to a much more effective degree.
Really?
Unlike Perona, Hancock is going in a direction which has nothing to do with where Luffy needs to be… Say, what if Luffy is dropped away and Law heads off in a different direction... Where is Hancock going to go? In my nuts!!
But seriously, the fact that you believe she's able to automatically find him is amusing, and then the fact that you believe she's FORCED to is even more amazing.
I'm surprised you cannot grasp Perona being able to find him by courtesy of Zoro... It baffles me.
Bunch of fodder who we saw her completely manipulate
And the pie at the corner was delicious…
Hancock and Jinbei's backstories already completely support a well-established New World slavery angle.
Yet, we can look at the horizon and say, "God made that sunset holy. Amen!"
When will you argue using facts rather than personal fanfiction wishes.
I think that trees may be green, in stories and biology… But the earth does look like it is blue, from far far away... Then, the sun seems to be yellow, but it is too bright to confirm.
However, where art thou Romeo!?!?
Oda wrote her, how is that fanfiction? what you're doing with Perona now that is pure fanfic.net
A penny earned, is a penny saved; as well as vice-versa…
No it isn't lol, that's just your bad taste. Anyone who is a fan of Perona or Hancock should be given a through beating.
Did you know that tomatoes can be tasty?
Now that language is completely inappropriate for a gothic loli death fashion pseudo guro crack whore. "Radiant"? Get off my lawn.
She's bright and appealing…
Is your lawn my lawn too? How CARELESS!!!??!
Now that you mention Robin, the macabre angle is already filled by Robin's dry observational personality.
Now, the deathlike angle is seemingly there, but the childlike angle isn't. Perona is more about being a child than a mature woman with a sick sense of humor… Eh?
Sorry agog!
By being a prissy brat?
With sex appeal to fuel the underground people living in their basements…!!
This is the exact reason why you're a fan of Perona lol.
Of course…
That is almost as verbose and full of bullshit as the post I'm responding to. where's the new info?
It's in my ass and around the corner…
Being serious, I'm waiting for Oda to show what Zoro is doing... I can't give any new info until Oda makes Luffy appear where he is going to stop moving for a while, or depending on what ever Oda plans to do after 580....
Perona is still in the same place we last saw her of, since Zoro hasn't been shown yet.
You haven't explained anything yet, why would you even offer.
Cause I am a good guy… ya???
Hancock has nothing holding her back.
Peeply Lulu has nothing holding him back.
Sodom and Gomorra have nothing holding them back.
Of course… The last two aren't in the plot line and aren't connected to any character.
Hancock has her island holding her back and a physical placement that isn't next to anyone that runs the plot. She's not in the main plot, just trying to catch up to it... Chances can be that she's NOT going to meet Luffy, and chances can be that she randomly meets him; which would be fairly CARELESS and pathetic about Oda's writing skill...
See how easy it is to talk a load of shit? Now shut the fuck up.
You haven't even done a damn thing, so please talk more shit and maybe one marvelous day you'll say something worthwhile…
She has nothing that separates her from the rank and file of One Piece, that is what she needs.
Oh god!! I'm getting bored of reading this same nonsense… Leave your opinions at home, please. I don't care what you think of her, it's not the same as what Oda thinks of her and we aren't being emotional with ourselves; no need to let it all out about how bad Perona haunts you.
Just focus on the writer and his manga, please...
The typical agog response, that is, posting a whole bunch of words but not actually responding.
Of course…
Otherwise...
It's not "agog" rich, now is it?
How can you even defend your post then, when you you've basically confirmed you don't give a shit about the crap coming out your anus right now.
Yes, I want to clear out my anus, it's clogged…
Doesn't change the fact your post is full of illogical white noise.
Because you say so? Cry me a river and make sure it's able to top the world's best… Otherwise, your childish ranting isn't impressive at all; a baby with their lollipop could provide better crappy "that lady sucks!!" replies than you...
"HUHU IM NOT ACTUALLY BEING SLAUGHTERED…WHY DONT YOU ALL BELIEVE ME HUFHUF"
I'm not. You're very very dumb if you keep thinking that you could do that…
You've yet to even read any of my arguments, so what are you going to argue against?
Posts that don't even have anything to do with anything coherent to this topic? No.... Not you... you know all!!
Grow some GUTS, kid... Seriously, if you don't read the person's argument, how the hell can you even effectively argue against it?
Come back when you provide new information and a cogent argument. All of that has already been atomised, in this very thread no less
Laughable. You are.
Read my argument and then bother doing something against it… I'd like to see you actually try, cause saying "You are dumb" isn't the same as "Your theory is wrong because of this claim being unlikely due to this fallacy…"
Unfortunately, you, and the whole thread that tried so dearly to argue against me, have never done so.
I'm waiting, but it's boring reading the same insults all day... Vary it at least.
But you have a track record of bad taste and abominable posts. Excuse me if I don't agree.
That's fine for you… It's your own personal respect to do as you please, but that track record is relatively balanced. Furthermore, that track record of "posts" isn't even that extensive. Repetitive, yes? But the content has been about the same and therefore since I've yet to even be wrong, the chances of anything changing doesn't seem evident when there's no information to judge my posts on account of.
So, those old posts are still there, as are any of my posts.
The only track record I have is that Ace would probably "not" be revived... And all those foreshadowing elements and possible interpretation was a deeper-than-need-be attempt on my part.
So, my track record on AP FORUMS is rarely small...
Perona is still in the same position as she was 20 chapters ago... Nothing has changing within the past 4 months, if not longer...
:happy:
Why would I be incorrect? I ask.
You aren't forced to agree, but I ask you to at least read it and make me want to "think" about some possible counter you provide... I'm lusting here for a debate, I am. Yet, there is no person willing to provide the time needed to actually do it.
Because it would be horrible writing and a moment that contradicts everything One Piece has stood for until this moment.
Oh, would it?
Fascinating… People learn new things just by living each day; Glad I didn't suicide after Ace wasn't revived... Whew!!
You're a fag and you should die in a fire.
I do agree, a fag is lit by a "fire" and then they are doomed to slowly burn away, into crisp segments and a memento…
A relatively well done one-line here, I think you outdid yourself with this last line... Good Job!!
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I find it funny that there are actually people who believe Perona will join. Is she just going to be like "On my old crew I took off like a scalded cat at the first sign of trouble but I'm not going to do it now"?
I have to say, that's actually a valid point I haven't seen brought up. The level of knowledge he has could indeed be too great for the SH. Then again, we don't know exactly how the NW itself is laid out or how far he had to go to reach WB each time, or if he's been there for other reasons as well. He may know some aspects of it very well, but there could be plenty of other things even he doesn't know of. Who knows, maybe the experience he does have will be vital to the SH proceeding; not that he couldn't do that without joining, but Nami's basic know-how was pretty important on the onset, and Robin was quite experience herself when she joined. Even Brook was once an acting captain himself, not to mention a guard of a "certain kingdom", as he put it.
You are kidding?
We've said this a long long time ago back in this thread against both Hancock and Jinbei…
I've been saying this on OMF since Jinbei first got an appearance.
Jinbei's "experience" can be provided by random FISHMAN X and just has less extremes concerning his constant routes towards WB's lair.
It's probable this way, at least I think it is...
These would be things Oda has likely taken into consideration, but I do think the focus he's put on Jimbei has been getting more apparent, even for someone with a likely big part to play in the next arc.
We all knew that Jinbei would have a part in FI, unless he was killed…
It's just a matter of what happens after that, and if he is forced to join, it'll be after that.
I'm pretty sure that this may be important if Jinbei is confirmed as a MASTER HELMSMAN and one must be needed to head towards Raftel.
If so, then I believe Jinbei will join the crew on that case; because his purpose is a necessity and his skill is very acclaimed.
If this isn't ever provided, then Luffy will just pickup a random HELMSMAN when he needs one for the future.
Meaning, Jinbei has no function to join, nor would he need to join.
I laughed hard with that xDDDDDD
Aniway, now i'm just going to be neutral. I support Hancock for nakama (the others are just dreams: Galdino, bentham, buggy, crocodile). If Perona manages to be with the SH, then AGOG and herr sebe will rule this forum and the world. If not, then…
But i hope she doesn't joins...
I don't want to rule the forums or the world…
I just wanna have a thought out DEBATE with another human being... My ambition isn't that impressive, I want to live a shell of a life, drifting the current and basking in the sunshine, day by day.
Everything else is just too troublesome to muster, and I'm just not into that.
I find it funny that there are actually people who believe Perona will join. Is she just going to be like "On my old crew I took off like a scalded cat at the first sign of trouble but I'm not going to do it now"?
I personally think that she's going to ditch them in the future, after all, all the female girls do. It is almost natural, I think…
I just wanna have a thought out DEBATE with another human being… My ambition isn't that impressive, I want to live a shell of a life, drifting the current and basking in the sunshine, day by day.
It's been a while since the days of real debate for us Perona supporters in this thread. :P
Agog: It just seems your pitching ideas that nobody is willing to buy. I am impressed that you've managed to throw together some whirlwind idea that Perona would join, but you could do the same with Hancock.
Course, I don't got that kinda of time…
To AGOG (cause I'm not wntierly sure how to quote yet) Unlike Nami and Robin Perona won't take off for a good reason, she'll just take off to save her own skin.
To quote, you click on the button that says "quote" at the bottom of the post that you want to quote.
I personally think that she's going to ditch them in the future, after all, all the female girls do. It is almost natural, I think…
The difference being that Nami and Robin left the crew to save the rest of them from the threat in question (Arlong and CP9/the Buster Call), while Perona would only flee in order to save herself. Even Usopp isn't that cowardly!
Yes. I skipped Marineford… It's so boring...
How can you really get involved in a debate over whether Hancock or Jinbei will join if you haven't even read the latest arc, which features both of them fairly prominently?
She's not in the main plot, just trying to catch up to it… Chances can be that she's NOT going to meet Luffy, and chances can be that she randomly meets him; which would be fairly CARELESS and pathetic about Oda's writing skill...
Hatchi, Buggy, Smoker, Laboon, Dorry, Broggy, Garp, and Rayleigh all hadn't featured in the plot for quite some time, yet Oda had them show up or get involved later anyways. Randomly meeting people from the past chapters of the series seems to be a part of Oda's style, along with fate and coincidences. You can't say something is "careless and pathetic about Oda's writing skill" when it's featured prominently in his work. In addition, Hancock knows where Luffy was prior to being sent to Amazon Lily (mentioned here: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/522/02/), so she knows where to head in order to find Luffy. As well, arriving in Shabondy could allow her to overcome her fears and the trauma of her past by standing up to the World Nobles, seeing as they are actively targetting Luffy and his crew.
I personally think that she's going to ditch them in the future, after all, all the female girls do. It is almost natural, I think…
there is a difference between when they left and perona did. when nami and robin left they weren't leaving their crew in mortal danger. nami and robin would never leave in the middle of a fight when things are looking bad, good, or whatever they look like.
perona ditched out and bailed on her crew when things got tough. and that is not cool. that is the main thing i have noticed luffy see's in people before they are crew members. they stick it out and do all they can. even usopp never bails on his friends when it is needed.
perona on the other hand did the most ANTI-strawhat manuever there is. there is nothing more dishonorable for a strawhat to do.
The difference being that Nami and Robin left the crew to save the rest of them from the threat in question (Arlong and CP9/the Buster Call), while Perona would only flee in order to save herself. Even Usopp isn't that cowardly!
Yeah, since Usopp would never leave Zoro tied up on a boat while he and Johnny swam to shore, leting Zoro get attacked by a bunch of Fishmen…
Oh wait, that happened, didn't it? How silly of me. Carry on.
How can you really get involved in a debate over whether Hancock or Jinbei will join if you haven't even read the latest arc, which features both of them fairly prominently?
this x 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000
I don't want to rule the forums or the world…
I just wanna have a thought out DEBATE with another human being... My ambition isn't that impressive, I want to live a shell of a life, drifting the current and basking in the sunshine, day by day.
Everything else is just too troublesome to muster, and I'm just not into that.
Well, i think this debate has gone too far. Really, people now is acting in rude and offensive manners and that should stop. We are expressing our opinions, so neither team (The perona supporters or the jinbei/hancock supporters) should try to impose their views respect to that.
I know this post is going to be ignored, as always, but hope that someone actually read it…
The person I want to join the crew is Hancock. Just to see how the Straw Hars would react to meeting her. Also if she joins because she has the same birthday as me there would be three Straw Hats who have the same birthdays as people in my family.
She is the only known Warlord with a birthday..that's interesting..
She is the only known Warlord with a birthday..that's interesting..
huh that's neat. btw what is her birthday?
or even more thorough question. Who has all been given a birthday in One Piece?
Yeah, since Usopp would never leave Zoro tied up on a boat while he and Johnny swam to shore, leting Zoro get attacked by a bunch of Fishmen…
Oh wait, that happened, didn't it? How silly of me. Carry on.
The difference being that Usopp was a rookie at the time, completely unprepared for the journeys at sea (he hadn't been in a fight during his time that he was officially on the crew, and had only been on the crew for a couple of days [most of those spent eating at the Baratie]), and he's been greatly changed by his experiences into a more courageous person (for instance, not even flinching at the sea monster that had eaten Camie, whereas at the start of the series, he would have been running around and screaming), whereas Perona had been on Moria's crew for at least since Hogback joined (so several years in all), meaning that she had experience with the life of a pirate yet she still fled. She's had ten years to grow a backbone, yet she never did.
huh that's neat. btw what is her birthday?
or even more thorough question. Who has all been given a birthday in One Piece?
It's September 2nd and it seems only important characters are given one..
It's September 2nd and it seems only important characters are given one..
WHAAAT?? SEPTEMBER 2ND???
MY BIRTHDAY o_O