Great chapter. A lot of things happening there.
Chapter 730: "3 Cards"
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Really? They know nothing of his string ability and they will be cut and controlled the same he did to sanji.
You need to quote dude and yes, it wouldn't have been the same, its been shown that Luffy's Observation Haki is above Sanji's and his armament should be up there too and Zoro is an Armament specialist + he fight with swords, If Doflamingo move his hands he will automatically place a swords in front of him and he will find out about the string, that's just simple
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So Fujitora retreating due to Zoro or Luffy
They are being sarcastic dude
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i think you can overpower dofla's strings with brutal strength
i have to say i still see sanji very powerful he should have amazing fighting skills but that fight was unfair it doesn't go with his fighting style
in the other hand if zoro managed to deal with an admiral gravity by his own strength he can do the same with DD
that's why fugitara saved his ass , why else ?
yes i know jozu couldn't deal with DD's strings .. but then he also took a KO by one hit from aokiji
i know i messed up with some of the power rankings , but that's how i see things after time skip
specially after reading his awesome chapterI'm lost on your words
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Zoro might already have hard time to deal with Bastille, please…
EDIT : Not sure if all this is serious anyway. The only thing I'm sure of is that there aren't any kind of "strengh" logic in OP, Oda doesn't seem to really care... And it's not that bad !
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Zoro might already have hard time to deal with Bastille, please…
EDIT : Not sure if all this is serious anyway. The only thing I'm sure of is that there aren't any kind of "strengh" logic in OP, Oda doesn't seem to really care... And it's not that bad !
Lol, and why is that ?
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Zoro might already have hard time to deal with Bastille, please…
yet he caused fugitora to step back by a wave from his sword
didn't you guys read the chapter?!
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Lol, and why is that ?
Not sure if this is the best place to speak about that, but strength in OP is :
- inconsistent (ex Crocodile Alabasta/Marineford)
- evolving (haki, which didn't seem to be used at Marineford as much as it would be now)
- less important than strategy ? (Luffy vs Ener, Luffy vs Lucci)
=> is not necessary coherent then
You can't just say that a character is as strong/stronger/weaker than another character in OP, because strengh isn't always coherent…
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Fujitora got Zoro by surprise, yet without giving him any important wound. And he flattered a 1-sword-style attack by Zoro.
But yeah, Zoro's shit.
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Will Sanji put up a good fight against Baron Tamago, or will he end up as a punching bag again?
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LOL, you make it sound like the Meteor is a superior attack.
It did a lot of destruction even when Law and Dofla defended themselves against it.
well fugitara brings down meteors and giant sinkhole with that same gravity
and again i also didn't see ashura or santorio ogi badass attacks
and yet ..Fujitora won't go all out in a place with so many civilians.
Gravity is all that Fujitora's power consists of. His meteors aren't very special considering how easily Law and Doffy can deal with them. You assume that it was basic because? Meteors didn't come with the devil fruit. Zoro was struggling, but not how you're making it sound. Fuji came out of nowhere and hit Zoro with a surprise attack. That's it. Zoro then forced him to retreat backwards with a casual sword slash with no name and he got out of that rather quickly with minimal damage. I don't like how people are overhyping Fujitora and downplaying Zoro. Is Fuji stronger than Zoro?Sure. Did the situation go exactly as you described it? No. People are so quick to try and point out where Zoro and Luffy's strength lies without them ever doing a single thing. We don't know how strong they really are so saying that Fujitora would do this and that to him if they fought is pretty silly.
Fujitora directly applied his gravity on somebody/something. That's the basics of his ability. Expanding his gravity to pull out an object from outer space seems more complex.
It's no different from Kuzan's basic freezing attack, which even Doflamingo struggled to recover from. In that context, Zoro did a good job.
There's no power level discussion here. Anybody will struggle against a force that they can't normally defend against like gravity or the cold. Law and Dofla can easily deal with those because they have abilities that allow them to do so.
In the end, Fujitora is another one of those characters with abilities that are virtually impossible to beat (unless you have an ability that can counter it), but are limited for whatever reason in order to give the opposition a fighting chance.
The point is not that Fujitora is this much stronger than Zoro, but that he's overpowered regardless of the opponent.
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Bastille is a vice admiral. Zoro isn't about to just one-hit him.
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Bastille is a vice admiral. Zoro isn't about to just one-hit him.
16 characters of Capman.
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A vice admiral is a good step for Zoro's progression, much to early for him to have a fight to death vs an admiral and come out victorious.
Remember that Akainu said that Fujitora powerwise, is more than enough to handle the entire Mugiwara crew + LAW.Fire is hot, so are ladies. Sorry Sanji lovers, a mera mera no mi lady will join and melt his heart 
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16 characters of Capman.
Capman was a rookie, a newly appointed vice admiral which was revealed chapters ago..
Big MoM ate - 2012
CC for nakama.
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Bastille is a vice admiral. Zoro isn't about to just one-hit him.
If Bastille gets fodderized by Zoro, that would make the vice admirals of the new world look pathetic, just like Maynard.
I thought Sanji was on one ass kicking per arc. Did they change the quota?
If you count Violet, that makes it 2.
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This is madness
Zoro might already have hard time to deal with Bastille, please…
EDIT : Not sure if all this is serious anyway. The only thing I'm sure of is that there aren't any kind of "strengh" logic in OP, Oda doesn't seem to really care... And it's not that bad !
Sanji's boy take it easy
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Capman was a rookie, a newly appointed vice admiral which was revealed chapters ago..
Capman being beaten so easily just points the fact that's being pointed since we first saw Nezumi almost 700 chapters ago : Rank doesn't indicate power level.
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A vice admiral is a good step for Zoro's progression, much to early for him to have a fight to death vs an admiral and come out victorious.
Remember that Akainu said that Fujitora powerwise, is more than enough to handle the entire Mugiwara crew + LAW.Akainu knows Fujitora's power but he doesn't know anything by the others though
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Capman being beaten so easily just points the fact that's being pointed since we first saw Nezumi almost 700 chapters ago : Rank doesn't indicate power level.
What fact? the guy was a new Vice Admiral
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Guys I have a question, does zorro got back with brute strenght ? Pretty amazing
http://i995.mangapanda.com/one-piece/730/one-piece-4611203.jpg
Epic zorro troubling a admiral
yeahh, look at that.. zoro can push fuji.. what a training did mihawk do for zoro, he's truly a beast now.
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It was a great chapter but I still feel chapter 700 was the best of the year so far.
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yet he caused fugitora to step back by a wave from his sword
didn't you guys read the chapter?! [qimg]http://d173.diamond.fastwebserver.de/series/OnePiece/0730-007.png[/qimg]
This is one of my favorite panels. It was not just a step back. He also made him kneel down on his left knee.
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Capman being beaten so easily just points the fact that's being pointed since we first saw Nezumi almost 700 chapters ago : Rank doesn't indicate power level.
Exactly, which makes the point of Zoro one-shotting him just as weak.
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What fact? the guy was a new Vice Admiral
The fact that the rank of somebody doesn't point out his individual power level.
He was still a Vice-Admiral, though, new or not. And it's not the first case of marines that are weak compared to other people sharing rank with them, such as Captain Nezumi, or Commodore Purin Purin.
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He does know a lot about the Mugiwaras and LAW, don't fool yourself, but there is of course the unknown in how much they have evolved.
Won't be easy, since I expect them to be really strong but it is way to early in story for the Mugiwaras to be able to handle from what we know 1 of the 4-5 strongest people in the WG.
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Seeing people saying Zoro can beat or stand a chance against an Admiral pisses me off
1- not long ago Oda released a one piece movie which an Ex-Admiral was the opponent
2- Luffy barely beat him
3- Oda went out of his way to state that -Luffy beat an Admiral because he was an Ex-Admiral and was old..And people magically think Oda will make Zoro defeat or be as strong as a current Admiral? Like seriously are people this dumb?
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The fact that the rank of somebody doesn't point out his individual power level.
He was still a Vice-Admiral, though, new or not. And it's not the first case of marines that are weak compared to other people sharing rank with them, such as Captain Nezumi, or Commodore Purin Purin.
Garp proves the inverse too.
Bastille could be one of the stronger Vice-Admirals, for all we know.
yeahh, look at that.. zoro can push fuji.. what a training did mihawk do for zoro, he's truly a beast now.
Are you being sarcastic?
I can't really tell because I've heard similar things from users who were completely serious.
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Garp proves the inverse too.
Bastille could be one of the stronger Vice-Admirals, for all we know.
Yup. He could, but if he is weak, vice-admirals wouldn't be a disappointing joke. That's what i was pointing out. lol.
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The fact that the rank of somebody doesn't point out his individual power level.
He was still a Vice-Admiral, though, new or not. And it's not the first case of marines that are weak compared to other people sharing rank with them, such as Captain Nezumi, or Commodore Purin Purin.
We can also take into accord, that Bartolomeo might be stronger than expected.
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The fact that the rank of somebody doesn't point out his individual power level.
He was still a Vice-Admiral, though, new or not. And it's not the first case of marines that are weak compared to other people sharing rank with them, such as Captain Nezumi, or Commodore Purin Purin.
Admirals are the strongest forces of the WG and marines so I don't think their is any room of an Admiral who's weaker than the other..
If Zoro and Luffy at this point can fight equally with the WG strongest force Admiral then marines should give up already and WG should surrender and apologize to pirates…
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It did a lot of destruction even when Law and Dofla defended themselves against it.
The meteors are visible and easily avoidable. He has cast 6 of them so far and none have hit their target or should I say he cast 5. Whereas, the gravity is not visible and we've seen it used 3 times and it landed every time. The casino guys, mild one use to hold Law and the attack on Zoro. There is no way that meteor will hurt Zoro but the gravity made Zoro bleed.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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- What happened to Bastille?
- Im confused about the part when DD says he thinks he sees Momo on that ship. Does he have some sort of connection with that talking ship-man that he's able to see what the ship-man sees? How? Does he have a connection with BM?
- Doffy floating made me think about what Law told us about DD using clouds as a way to get to places. How exactly can he do that? Clouds aren't solid unless they're sky island clouds.
- Did BM send those guys to take CC? I remember Tomago said something about informing BM during the broadcast to the Brokers. I feel like that's the case according to what CC said about his connection to BM, but it seems BM isn't aware of what CC did according to what he says afterwards. Did BM find out? If not, what might the reasoning be behind all this?
- Will the Tea Party be postponed due to these unforeseen events?
- What is Violet thinking by going back to the palace? Could that Government contact of hers be Fujitora by any chance?
- Wasn't DD using the tournament as a trap for Luffy? Due to his actions, Luffy is about to leave the tournament yet he's so calm about the whole situation. What gives? Did DD make a deal with BM? Did he find out Luffy pissed off BM so he used Luffy as a bargaining chip to get BM involved? If so, his bargaining chip is about to leave the coliseum so I'm guessing someone will stop Luffy from leaving just like how the sea stone bars stopped Luffy from entering the little skirmish. But who will stop Luffy? Bellamy? How? What happens to Zoro and Kinemon if Luffy won't be able to leave the coliseum?
That's all I'm gonna say for now.
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Seeing people saying Zoro can beat or stand a chance against an Admiral pisses me off
1- not long ago Oda released a one piece movie which an Ex-Admiral was the opponent
2- Luffy barely beat him
3- Oda went out of his way to state that -Luffy beat an Admiral because he was an Ex-Admiral and was old..
And people magically think Oda will make Zoro defeat or be as strong as a current Admiral? Like seriously are people this dumb?Can you get me this one?
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The meteors are visible and easily avoidable. He has cast 6 of them so far and none have hit their target or should I say he cast 5. Whereas, the gravity is not visible and we've seen it used 3 times and it landed every time. The casino guys, mild one use to hold Law and the attack on Zoro. There is no way that meteor will hurt Zoro but the gravity made Zoro bleed.
They are easily avoidable because Law's ability easily allows him to deal with meteors.
Fujitora even commented on that.
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Because Law's ability easily allows him to deal with meteors.
Fujitora even commented on that.
So Zoro cannot cut the meteor as well? You're making it sound like Fujitora will kill Zoro If he lands two or three meteors on the battle field
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IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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Ρε παιδιά τι θα γίνει στο τέλος;;
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Does it matter if Sanji or Zoro is stronger?
Does it matter if Zoro can fight admirals?
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So Zoro cannot cut the meteor as well? You're making it sound like Fujitora will kill Zoro If he lands two or three meteors on the battle field
Law cut it, DD cut it, second attempt, Law deflected with a finger and you think Zoro can't cut it?
Zoro could cut it, but that wouldn't stop the impact.
Even when Law and Dofla cut that one meteor, it still caused major destruction. Law himself had to run away from one when his ability allows him to cut anything.
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Zoro could cut it, but that wouldn't stop the impact.
Even when Law and Dofla cut that one meteor, it still caused a lot of destruction.
caused destruction that doesn't affect Zoro, so he still holds his own even If Fujitora trows meteors at him
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Seeing people saying Zoro can beat or stand a chance against an Admiral pisses me off
1- not long ago Oda released a one piece movie which an Ex-Admiral was the opponent
2- Luffy barely beat him
3- Oda went out of his way to state that -Luffy beat an Admiral because he was an Ex-Admiral and was old..And people magically think Oda will make Zoro defeat or be as strong as a current Admiral? Like seriously are people this dumb?
yet luffy did not use any of his main destructive attacks because if he would have the fight would have been over real quick.
Take it easy man, you shouldn't get mad over other peoples opinions. Its not like were insulting you.
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We can also take into accord, that Bartolomeo might be stronger than expected.
True.
Admirals are the strongest forces of the WG and marines so I don't think their is any room of an Admiral who's weaker than the other…
TBH i think that the only marine rank with equal members (powerwise) is Admiral.
P.D: If my english sounds confusing just say so.
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Fujitora directly applied his gravity on somebody/something. That's the basics of his ability. Expanding his gravity to pull out an object from outer space seems more complex.
But it isn't. Obviously the gravity is the main factor of his ability, not something he pulled down with it.
In the end, Fujitora is another one of those characters with abilities that are virtually impossible to beat (unless you have an ability that can counter it), but are limited for whatever reason in order to give the opposition a fighting chance.
You claim that yet we barely know a thing about is abilities. Obviously it isn't virtually impossible to beat if Zoro resisted and countered it.
The point is not that Fujitora is this much stronger than Zoro, but that he's overpowered regardless of the opponent.
Assumptions, assumptions. You're telling us how much stronger Fuji is with not a lick of proof of how strong Zoro even is.
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where you at C3? i just want to read your script. not all this "zoro/fuji/vice admira/rookie/potato power level shit" arguments.
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Man, this is getting better and better.
And Fujitora floating away with Doflamingo reminds me of Aizen (please don't hurt me:ninja:)I would have lolled so hard if Dofla had changed his hairstyle when they were floating
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Can we all at least agree that zoro is stronger than law?
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Assumptions, assumptions. You're telling us how much stronger Fuji is with not a lick of proof of how strong Zoro even is.
You read that wrong. My point is that saying how much Fujitora is stronger than Zoro is irrelevant because of his ridiculously powerful ability.
There's no assumptions there. Stop thinking on power levels.
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The fact that the rank of somebody doesn't point out his individual power level.
He was still a Vice-Admiral, though, new or not. And it's not the first case of marines that are weak compared to other people sharing rank with them, such as Captain Nezumi, or Commodore Purin Purin.
Nezume stationed in East blue, the weakest sea of all, Smoker was also stationed in East blue but he was right at the end of it, any pirate who was trying to get to Grand Line had to stop on that Island, so their fucked
Purin also in east blue
There are differences in power but those ranks (Vice Admiral and Admiral) are different and it also depends where you are stationed ie: A new World captain should be able to take care of a paradise Commodore or fight in equal terms with a rear admiral
