That thing that took Capone Bege and his crew, I think has something to do with space pirates and/or Enel….
The Great New World Discussion Thread
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Anyone think we'll see some New World pirates without high bounties? Or maybe some without bounties at all? I mean look at the Strawhats, their bounties are all pretty low (except Luffy of course) for the New World, so I'm sure there are others out there like them.
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@Jewelery:
Anyone think we'll see some New World pirates without high bounties? Or maybe some without bounties at all? I mean look at the Strawhats, their bounties are all pretty low (except Luffy of course) for the New World, so I'm sure there are others out there like them.
There are probably more pirates like the ones Kid crucified Pre-Timeskip.
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There are probably more pirates like the ones Kid crucified Pre-Timeskip.
in short-term: Fodder pirates.
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Updated picture and post including islands from chapter 700The following places have been named:
Raftel
Wano
Punk Hazard
Dressrosa
Risky Red
Mistoria
Raijin
Green Bit
Foodvalten
Yukiryuu
Whole Cake
Elbaf (is it in New World?)
ZouThe island I've marked as "Mistoria island?" is the island where Kid was seen before the TS. It would make sense because Kid couln't have gotten very far at that point, and the island looks kinda "mysterious".
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Updated picture and post including islands from chapter 700Thee following places have been named:
Raftel
Wano
Punk Hazard
Dressrosa
Risky Red
Mistoria
Raijin
Green Bit
Foodvalten
Yukiryuu
Whole Cake
Elbaf (is it in New World?)The island I've marked as "Mistoria island?" is the island where Kid was seen before the TS. It would make sense because Kid couln't have gotten very far at that point, and the island looks kinda "mysterious".
Dude, this collage our yours is really awesome. Good Job !
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Dude, this collage our yours is really awesome. Good Job !
Thanks. I posted it earlier but it didn't get much attention… Tell me if I missed anything!
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Thanks. I posted it earlier but it didn't get much attention… Tell me if I missed anything!
Zou was mentioned as well ^^
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Zou was mentioned as well ^^
We still don't know if that's an island, though. But I guess I'll add it.
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We still don't know if that's an island, though. But I guess I'll add it.
It is a destination, that much is confirmed
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I am extremely board, so what I did is read the whole Chapter Discussion for 655, which was the start of Punk Hazard. The theories and the debates were hilarious now that we are done with the arc, and it's amazing how a couple of theories were correct. I found it funny how the majority kept arguing that the incident that made Punk Hazard "hazardous" was 4 years ago, and it was impossible for Kuzan and Sakazuki to have fought there because their fight happened two years ago.
Also this guy's prediction amazed me: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=34750&p=2505930&viewfull=1#post2505930
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@400MillionBelis:
I am extremely board
Hope you feel better, a little 2x4 myself.
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Updated picture and post including islands from chapter 700And it seems that I've missed one from 674. Damnit. I'll update the pic soon….
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Okay, done. Updated the pic to include a missing island.
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I love that there are normally only 3 islands for the general sailer to choose from upon entering the New World. Not only did the crew happen upon a secret island first, their 2nd, 3rd and most likely forth islands will not be among any of 3 islands we were promised in the beginning.
There is no way they aren't going to explore that lightning island either. This story is going to last a heck of a long time.
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Updated picture and post including islands from chapter 700The following places have been named:
Raftel
Wano
Punk Hazard
Dressrosa
Risky Red
Mistoria
Raijin
Green Bit
Foodvalten
Yukiryuu
Whole Cake
Elbaf (is it in New World?)
ZouThe island I've marked as "Mistoria island?" is the island where Kid was seen before the TS. It would make sense because Kid couln't have gotten very far at that point, and the island looks kinda "mysterious".
Nice one… In the NW are three lines to travel while in Paradise there's seven, so we may have a lot of clashes, I assume Elbaf is in the NW, where else could it be
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I love that there are normally only 3 islands for the general sailer to choose from upon entering the New World. Not only did the crew happen upon a secret island first, their 2nd, 3rd and most likely forth islands will not be among any of 3 islands we were promised in the beginning.
There is no way they aren't going to explore that lightning island either. This story is going to last a heck of a long time.
Raijin for sure is an extremely dangerous island for a normal person. But Luffy, immune to all electricity, will go like this:
"Most. Boringest. Island. Ever." -
Jacker, you forgot one island.
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! What's that? It's not in the New World you say??
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Jacker, you forgot one island.
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! What's that? It's not in the New World you say??
Well…. as long as you are present in the New World.... you carry the Island with you.Haha… I only included islands that are always in the New World.
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A general question about Law's planing
He said StrawHat and the others are the key to his plan… What I don't get ever since PH... What would he has done if Luffy never would have appeared at PH? He left is crew and Zoe and stayed all the time alone at PH.
Why he never intented to kidnap Ceaser at that time or do anything else together with HIS crew?
It's still somehow strange... Even if he is a master mind his crew situation and plan from the very start would fail without Luffy suddenly appearing cuz of the call at Punk Hazard.
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A general question about Law's planing
He said StrawHat and the others are the key to his plan… What I don't get ever since PH... What would he has done if Luffy never would have appeared at PH? He left is crew and Zoe and stayed all the time alone at PH.
Why he never intented to kidnap Ceaser at that time or do anything else together with HIS crew?
It's still somehow strange... Even if he is a master mind his crew situation and plan from the very start would fail without Luffy suddenly appearing cuz of the call at Punk Hazard.
He means he and his group are the ones that have to find and destroy the SAD factory. And they left before Law was ready is all.
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I know that they are now… But he was planing something against DoFla all the time? But still he was all alone at PH doing nothing and he left his crew somewhere else. It was only luck that the SHs have appeared!
And in a situation like this and all his planning, why his crew isn't involved into it as well? They could appear right now and do something for LAW's plan as Luffy is risking and using his crew mates.
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I know that they are now… But he was planing something against DoFla all the time? But still he was all alone at PH doing nothing and he left his crew somewhere else. It was only luck that the SHs have appeared!
And in a situation like this and all his planning, why his crew isn't involved into it as well? They could appear right now and do something for LAW's plan as Luffy is risking and using his crew mates.
Iirc, Law wasn't able to get all the info he needed while he's still on PH seeing that he, himself, said that he wasn't able to get any about the Smile factory in Dressogres save from presumably premature works of his very own crew. And seeing that the Strawhats arrived on PH, he probably thought that having them on an alliance, which is sadly not the alliance he's really thinking to be a kind of, would be a better option than lurking more time on PH and execute his plan alone.
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Hmm I don't know if I should ask this here since it might be a little off topic (sorry) but do you guys think that those Spade, Diamond and Club pirates in the previous chapter might have their own pirate crews as well, since it was said DD was keeping the Heart seat for Law, and if indeed at some time Ace worked with DD with the Spade pirates. It would be really cool if it turns out this way in my opinion. Coincidence? I think not! :ninja:
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Having met Dofla under different circumstances, than we as all seeing observers have, it's entirely possible that Ace could have seen him as a "Good Guy" and worked with him for awhile. I doubt it, but there is so much we don't know about how characters spent years of their lives and when they did it. As far as I know timelines have never been a crucial part of figuring out the mysteries of One Piece.
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My predictions for future story arcs in One Piece after Dressrosa.
•Zou will probably be next, so Law can reunite with his crew. Zou is probably the home of Minkmen, so it would be a good way to introduce this new species. Probably a Jaya-type arc.
•Wano has been foreshadowed for a while and Kinemon, Momonosuke, and Kanjuro have to return there. This will probably be a Skypiea-type arc. The Heart Pirates might be involved with it. There will probably be a Poneglyph.
•Kaido's Islands and bases will probably be a focus after Wano, and will probably result in a Kaido saga. The Kid, Apoo, and Hawkins Alliance will probably take out Big Mom, while Kaido is defeated by the Straw Hat and Heart Pirates Alliance. Gecko Moria will definitely reappear in the conflict with Kaido. Kaido will try to destroy Fishman Island after discovering Shirahoshi is Poseidon. The Fishmen and Merfolk will go to the surface.
•Elbaf has also been foreshadowed for a while and needs to be explored. This will be an interesting story arc and will probably have a Poneglyph.
•After Elbaf, I see a lot of involvement with the Revolutionaries. Luffy will meet Dragon and other characters will reappear, such as Ivankov, Inazuma, and Crocodile. Robin will probably learn more about the World Government from Dragon and might find another Poneglyph.
•Blackbeard and Shanks will probably meet at Raftel after they both find it. There will be a huge battle between their crews and Shanks will die. The Straw Hat Pirates will then reach Raftel and fight the Blackbeard Pirates for One Piece. After that, the Straw Hats will find One Piece and the Rio Poneglyph, and find out what the Will of D. is. After discovering One Piece and becoming King of the Pirates, Luffy decides to go to war with the World Government for revenge for what happened in the Void Century.
•I could definitely see the Straw Hats going to the moon to find out how to use Uranus against the WG (Uranus was on a wall painting in Birka). They will see the origins of the winged people and will see Enel again. The Space Pirates will definitely be involved.
•The last part of the story will be the war against the WG. The Straw Hats and all if the allies they made will aid them. Zoro will fight Mihawk, and Luffy will fight Akainu. Pretty much a bigger Marineford-type battle as Oda described it. The World Government will fall, the Marines will be reformed, and the Straw Hats will achieve their dreams.
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Hmm I don't know if I should ask this here since it might be a little off topic (sorry) but do you guys think that those Spade, Diamond and Club pirates in the previous chapter might have their own pirate crews as well, since it was said DD was keeping the Heart seat for Law, and if indeed at some time Ace worked with DD with the Spade pirates. It would be really cool if it turns out this way in my opinion. Coincidence? I think not! :ninja:
If Law and Bellamy are anything to go by then yes, it is very possible for each of the seat carriers to have their own crews.
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@Foxy:
My predictions for future story arcs in One Piece after Dressrosa.
•Zou will probably be next, so Law can reunite with his crew. Zou is probably the home of Minkmen, so it would be a good way to introduce this new species. Probably a Jaya-type arc.
•Wano has been foreshadowed for a while and Kinemon, Momonosuke, and Kanjuro have to return there. This will probably be a Skypiea-type arc. The Heart Pirates might be involved with it. There will probably be a Poneglyph.
•Kaido's Islands and bases will probably be a focus after Wano, and will probably result in a Kaido saga. The Kid, Apoo, and Hawkins Alliance will probably take out Big Mom, while Kaido is defeated by the Straw Hat and Heart Pirates Alliance. Gecko Moria will definitely reappear in the conflict with Kaido. Kaido will try to destroy Fishman Island after discovering Shirahoshi is Poseidon. The Fishmen and Merfolk will go to the surface.
•Elbaf has also been foreshadowed for a while and needs to be explored. This will be an interesting story arc and will probably have a Poneglyph.
•After Elbaf, I see a lot of involvement with the Revolutionaries. Luffy will meet Dragon and other characters will reappear, such as Ivankov, Inazuma, and Crocodile. Robin will probably learn more about the World Government from Dragon and might find another Poneglyph.
•Blackbeard and Shanks will probably meet at Raftel after they both find it. There will be a huge battle between their crews and Shanks will die. The Straw Hat Pirates will then reach Raftel and fight the Blackbeard Pirates for One Piece. After that, the Straw Hats will find One Piece and the Rio Poneglyph, and find out what the Will of D. is. After discovering One Piece and becoming King of the Pirates, Luffy decides to go to war with the World Government for revenge for what happened in the Void Century.
•I could definitely see the Straw Hats going to the moon to find out how to use Uranus against the WG (Uranus was on a wall painting in Birka). They will see the origins of the winged people and will see Enel again. The Space Pirates will definitely be involved.
•The last part of the story will be the war against the WG. The Straw Hats and all if the allies they made will aid them. Zoro will fight Mihawk, and Luffy will fight Akainu. Pretty much a bigger Marineford-type battle as Oda described it. The World Government will fall, the Marines will be reformed, and the Straw Hats will achieve their dreams.
Given how Luffy argued with Big Mom, i really doubt they won't encounter again
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@Devil:
Given how Luffy argued with Big Mom, i really doubt they won't encounter again
This.
In the Fishman Island arc they made a "promise" of Luffy going to the New World and fight with her over the flag in FI.
it would not make sense to have Kidd beat her then.I think that Luffy and Law will now work together on beating Kaidou, the first Yonko to be taken out in the New World. I think Luffy definitely needs Law's help for this as he is not on Yonko level himself yet, maybe not even Admiral level just yet. Then, after Kidd tries to take out Big Mom but failed, her crew and maybe even her will be weakened. This is when after a little while Luffy meets her and she will be the first Yonko that Luffy takes out himself. At this point he will be seen as a Yonko too, but he won't really give a crap about that title.
Though, my prediction has the great flaw that it would massively degrade Kidd and all the hype he's received. Maybe as Kidd is nearly gonna go for it and has already taken out a lot of her crew Luffy will just be like "lol I did it first."
Otherwise Luffy and Kidd will never be able to fight each other.
OR, hey wait. It might lead to a situation in which Kidd and Luffy are both on the quest to take her out and then they meet and fight over who gets to go to Whole Cake Island. The victor of their battle will be able to go on to try and take out a Yonko. That sounds pretty interesting to me as well! -
A general question about Law's planing
He said StrawHat and the others are the key to his plan… What I don't get ever since PH... What would he has done if Luffy never would have appeared at PH? He left is crew and Zoe and stayed all the time alone at PH.
Why he never intented to kidnap Ceaser at that time or do anything else together with HIS crew?
It's still somehow strange... Even if he is a master mind his crew situation and plan from the very start would fail without Luffy suddenly appearing cuz of the call at Punk Hazard.
I believe Law has been planning way back, from he's introduction and the comment he made about the SHs "SHs you showed me something interesting" or something like that and them we saw him saving Luffy at Marine ford then Appo said "what is Law planning with the SHs, he's not the type of man to do such thing" or something like that and after Rayleigh showed up he said that D's will give more trouble or some thing like that after that we see him chilling on the submarine and no rushing like the other SN to the NW.
PS: or something like that
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Looks like I have to update my islands picture again….just noticed bepo's paw print in the bottom right corner <3
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Maybe, the Strawhats will go to take out Big Mom (later in the story of course) and than Kidd's alliance will go there as well, so both alliances fight Big Mom. But Kidd is the one who ultimately defeats her, and tries to claim her territory as his, than Luffy fights him over it? Meh idk
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Updated picture and post including islands from chapter 701
Yep, here's an updated version again.The following places have been named:
Raftel
Wano
Punk Hazard
Dressrosa
Risky Red
Mistoria
Raijin
Green Bit
Foodvalten
Yukiryuu
Whole Cake
Elbaf (is it in New World?)
ZouThe island I've marked as "Mistoria island?" is the island where Kid was seen before the TS. It would make sense because Kid couln't have gotten very far at that point, and the island looks kinda "mysterious".
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Updated picture and post including islands from chapter 701
Yep, here's an updated version again.The following places have been named:
Raftel
Wano
Punk Hazard
Dressrosa
Risky Red
Mistoria
Raijin
Green Bit
Foodvalten
Yukiryuu
Whole Cake
Elbaf (is it in New World?)
ZouThe island I've marked as "Mistoria island?" is the island where Kid was seen before the TS. It would make sense because Kid couln't have gotten very far at that point, and the island looks kinda "mysterious".
I was just reading the after-war chapters yesterday and I thought the same, that island seems Mistoria, with the black pigs and all. I think the island Apoo was seen at is Risky Red, I hope that gets answered on an SBS or something.
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i like this, though i have to disagree with some.
@Foxy:
My predictions for future story arcs in One Piece after Dressrosa.
•Zou will probably be next, so Law can reunite with his crew. Zou is probably the home of Minkmen, so it would be a good way to introduce this new species. Probably a Jaya-type arc.
i can see it playing like that, "zou" is japanese for elephant anyway, maybe the ruler is elephant-man and bepo decides to hide the crew there because he knows that place best.
! > •Wano has been foreshadowed for a while and Kinemon, Momonosuke, and Kanjuro have to return there. This will probably be a Skypiea-type arc. The Heart Pirates might be involved with it. There will probably be a Poneglyph.
! yeah, and there would kinemon and co. end their journey, zoro gets an upgrade there…maybe its an emotional arc for sanji as well.
! > •Kaido's Islands and bases will probably be a focus after Wano, and will probably result in a Kaido saga. The Kid, Apoo, and Hawkins Alliance will probably take out Big Mom, while Kaido is defeated by the Straw Hat and Heart Pirates Alliance. Gecko Moria will definitely reappear in the conflict with Kaido. Kaido will try to destroy Fishman Island after discovering Shirahoshi is Poseidon. The Fishmen and Merfolk will go to the surface.
! i've always thought that the "surfacing of fishmen" will happen towards the climax of the series. and i think the strawhearts would have to fight the K/A/H alliance first before dealing with big mom. also, although beating kaidou is given…i'm guessing the fight with big mom will be stopped halfway, the vivre card from lola is the key....so basically, the endgame is: kaidou = villain, big mom = ally.
! > •Elbaf has also been foreshadowed for a while and needs to be explored. This will be an interesting story arc and will probably have a Poneglyph.
! agreed.
! > •I see a lot of involvement with the Revolutionaries. Luffy will meet Dragon and other characters will reappear, such as Ivankov, Inazuma, and Crocodile. Robin will probably learn more about the World Government from Dragon and might find another Poneglyph.
! i doubt crocodile as a revolutionary, i'm expecting aokiji though, of course sabo and one more marine i won't name. also, i think its the other way around, dragon cooperated with robin to find all the poneglyphs and report to him (secretly) that's she's not saying anything to her crewmates about her training the past 2 years, robin will set-up a meeting with luffy and dragon when the right time comes.
! > •Blackbeard and Shanks will probably meet at Raftel after they both find it. There will be a huge battle between their crews and Shanks will die. The Straw Hat Pirates will then reach Raftel and fight the Blackbeard Pirates for One Piece. After that, the Straw Hats will find One Piece and the Rio Poneglyph, and find out what the Will of D. is. After discovering One Piece and becoming King of the Pirates, Luffy decides to go to war with the World Government for revenge for what happened in the Void Century.
! i do agree blackbeard will discover the way to raftel, but meeting shanks is not because shanks will go for it as well…i'm just thinking shanks will be just intercepting blackbeard to give way to luffy reaching it before blackbeard does...and yeah, i agree shanks will die, mihawk as well, who would aid shanks in battle (though before that, zoro already beat him, but zoro spared him because he is his master)
! > •I could definitely see the Straw Hats going to the moon to find out how to use Uranus against the WG (Uranus was on a wall painting in Birka). They will see the origins of the winged people and will see Enel again. The Space Pirates will definitely be involved.
! i totally think it's plausible. the strawhats went up (sky), down (underwater) so its not far to think they will go somewhere ridiculous (space) and anyways, my theory is raftel was inside the reverse mountain in a hidden waterway (underground/hell)…so i think all of these are quite possible.
! > •The last part of the story will be the war against the WG. The Straw Hats and all if the allies they made will aid them. Zoro will fight Mihawk, and Luffy will fight Akainu. Pretty much a bigger Marineford-type battle as Oda described it. The World Government will fall, the Marines will be reformed, and the Straw Hats will achieve their dreams.
! *this is a given. this is the inevitable big time war at the end of the series, though i have a different scenario:
! the strawhats already achieved their dreams imo and defeated the blackbeard pirates already, and after that they met the revolutionaries and unlocked the void history…so more than their dreams, they've matured and they got a bigger goal to accomplish now. this will be to bring down WG and conquer marijoies and create the new age.
! there will be a war, but i since in my theory mihawk and shanks dies, they definitely wont be in the war...luffy's allies will be there and will provide support. this is how the important fights will turn out imo.
! the strawhats storm the marijoies city (basically the lesser strawhats getting their fair share of tough one-on ones) the top 5 strawhats will advance inside the city.
! luffy encounters akainu, zoro gets fujitora, sanji deals with kizaru and 2 more strawhats (one is jinbe) deals with 2 more admirals (that's why i like the 4 admiral theory LOL)
! well, luffy's halfway the battle with akainu, and dragon appears...dragon instructs luffy that there is a bigger fish to fry (or a time limit: it always happens), so dragon takes on akainu, while luffy advances inside the castle...
! * garp and sengoku fights kong imo, and aokiji and rayleigh will have their share of top-tier marines as well. well anyways...
! luffy advancing deeper into the castle and coby intercepts him. helmeppo will be there and sabo aids luffy. of course they will defeat both and luffy (and 4 strawhats who fought the 4 admirals) advances in the heart of marijoies to face their final test:
! 5 gorousei vs the top 5 strawhats.
! though defeated by dragon, akainu, the tank that he is, comes back for one more push and gets smoked by luffy. LOL -
i like this, though i have to disagree with some.
i can see it playing like that, "zou" is japanese for elephant anyway, maybe the ruler is elephant-man and bepo decides to hide the crew there because he knows that place best.
! yeah, and there would kinemon and co. end their journey, zoro gets an upgrade there…maybe its an emotional arc for sanji as well.
! i've always thought that the "surfacing of fishmen" will happen towards the climax of the series. and i think the strawhearts would have to fight the K/A/H alliance first before dealing with big mom. also, although beating kaidou is given…i'm guessing the fight with big mom will be stopped halfway, the vivre card from lola is the key....so basically, the endgame is: kaidou = villain, big mom = ally.
! agreed.
! i doubt crocodile as a revolutionary, i'm expecting aokiji though, of course sabo and one more marine i won't name. also, i think its the other way around, dragon cooperated with robin to find all the poneglyphs and report to him (secretly) that's she's not saying anything to her crewmates about her training the past 2 years, robin will set-up a meeting with luffy and dragon when the right time comes.
! i do agree blackbeard will discover the way to raftel, but meeting shanks is not because shanks will go for it as well…i'm just thinking shanks will be just intercepting blackbeard to give way to luffy reaching it before blackbeard does...and yeah, i agree shanks will die, mihawk as well, who would aid shanks in battle (though before that, zoro already beat him, but zoro spared him because he is his master)
! i totally think it's plausible. the strawhats went up (sky), down (underwater) so its not far to think they will go somewhere ridiculous (space) and anyways, my theory is raftel was inside the reverse mountain in a hidden waterway (underground/hell)…so i think all of these are quite possible.
! *this is a given. this is the inevitable big time war at the end of the series, though i have a different scenario:
! the strawhats already achieved their dreams imo and defeated the blackbeard pirates already, and after that they met the revolutionaries and unlocked the void history…so more than their dreams, they've matured and they got a bigger goal to accomplish now. this will be to bring down WG and conquer marijoies and create the new age.
! there will be a war, but i since in my theory mihawk and shanks dies, they definitely wont be in the war...luffy's allies will be there and will provide support. this is how the important fights will turn out imo.
! the strawhats storm the marijoies city (basically the lesser strawhats getting their fair share of tough one-on ones) the top 5 strawhats will advance inside the city.
! luffy encounters akainu, zoro gets fujitora, sanji deals with kizaru and 2 more strawhats (one is jinbe) deals with 2 more admirals (that's why i like the 4 admiral theory LOL)
! well, luffy's halfway the battle with akainu, and dragon appears...dragon instructs luffy that there is a bigger fish to fry (or a time limit: it always happens), so dragon takes on akainu, while luffy advances inside the castle...
! * garp and sengoku fights kong imo, and aokiji and rayleigh will have their share of top-tier marines as well. well anyways...
! luffy advancing deeper into the castle and coby intercepts him. helmeppo will be there and sabo aids luffy. of course they will defeat both and luffy (and 4 strawhats who fought the 4 admirals) advances in the heart of marijoies to face their final test:
! 5 gorousei vs the top 5 strawhats.
! though defeated by dragon, akainu, the tank that he is, comes back for one more push and gets smoked by luffy. LOLReverse mountain is called "Reverse" mountain because….most of it is actually UNDERGROUND!
Another Oda "it's been there the whole time and in our faces" moment waiting to happen :) You read it here first!
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Reverse mountain is called "Reverse" mountain because….most of it is actually UNDERGROUND!
Another Oda "it's been there the whole time and in our faces" moment waiting to happen :) You read it here first!
hahaha yeah. we got the same idea, there are quite a few hints (if i may say) that raftel is "inside and under" the reverse mountain.
! * luffy said that he will be a pirate king once he sees the red line again. *i'm guessing that there would be a hidden underground path (of course they would have to recruit or bring a coater) just before the red line (just throwing a guess: lair of seakings? and luffy will get there because he hears the voice of all things and the seakings wont hurt them) and that path is an underground waterway and they will actually be in the underworld, to get to raftel. a literal entrance to hell…..and of course, after reaching raftel where would they emerge out: center of REVERSE MOUNTAIN. luffy sees the red line and laboon is right there waiting at the other side....also, they can sail back straight back to fishman island where they promised shirahoshi....inside the reverse mountain: all blue, last rio poneglyph and one piece and the island of raftel.
- sanji said all blue is 4 seas converging into one.
- the reverse mountain is a big X mark in the one piece map, just like a treasure mark in a treasure map.
- the last island is at the end of new world, and i doubt its just a real final island, so it has to be a hidden final island just before the red line.
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hahaha yeah. we got the same idea, there are quite a few hints (if i may say) that raftel is "inside and under" the reverse mountain.
! * luffy said that he will be a pirate king once he sees the red line again. *i'm guessing that there would be a hidden underground path (of course they would have to recruit or bring a coater) just before the red line (just throwing a guess: lair of seakings? and luffy will get there because he hears the voice of all things and the seakings wont hurt them) and that path is an underground waterway and they will actually be in the underworld, to get to raftel. a literal entrance to hell…..and of course, after reaching raftel where would they emerge out: center of REVERSE MOUNTAIN. luffy sees the red line and laboon is right there waiting at the other side....also, they can sail back straight back to fishman island where they promised shirahoshi....inside the reverse mountain: all blue, last rio poneglyph and one piece and the island of raftel.
- sanji said all blue is 4 seas converging into one.
- the reverse mountain is a big X mark in the one piece map, just like a treasure mark in a treasure map.
- the last island is at the end of new world, and i doubt its just a real final island, so it has to be a hidden final island just before the red line.
I wonder if Franky will learn to coat a ship?