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    Tobi's Tank Turns Twenty Tomorrow Discussion!!? VI

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    • dirt monkey AL
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      Where did i say Naruto didn't use a bunshin??? WTF are you talking about??? He uses it in different ways. How is the sharingan a cheat. I guess Neji is a cheat too because he uses his move. I guess Luffy cheats too with his Devbil fruit powers. GTFO Why wouldn't Sasuke use his sharingan??? I guess Kakashi cheats too huh???

      Wats your point??? He was creative and it worked. itachi would be fried right now without his "Cheat" sasanoo right???

      once again where did i say Naruto doesn't use clones???? WTF Naruto main moves is clones. 99.999% of his moves are made for clone. He said it in the start that he loves that jutsu. He uses it to solve everything(resengan training,Sage mode etc….) I never said naruto never use clones. Stop making crap up.

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      He just keeps improving.

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      And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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        Rock Lee did use strategy and he didn't use any cheats (he's the only one so far)

        And I am all for Naruto Hinata although I think Hinata could get better (like Rock Lee)

        And finally Juju said something worth quoting

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          Where did i say Naruto didn't use a bunshin???

          You said he was creative and the fights had variety. Using the same move in every fight is not creative or variety.

          WTF are you talking about??? He uses it in different ways.

          By making fireballs and sneaking up behind an enemy, or throwing sheer numbers at them. He even uses the exact same trick TWICE on some enemies, and the enemy falls for it the second time. Even then, these things are often useless, as almost all of his important fights, (against Neji, Gaara, Sasuke, Orochimaru, and Pain) were won, or lost, more by him losing all control and the 9-tails taking over, rather than his strategy actually working.

          How is the sharingan a cheat.

          Any technique that allows you to see through and in advance counter an enemies moves, and effortlessly copy them, simply by existing, is a pretty unfair advantage. As the sharingan does all of these things naturally without any effort at all, it is a cheat that takes no talent. Anyone who posesses the sharingan can use the same hax as a basic ability set.

          I guess Neji is a cheat too because he uses his move.

          Byakugan has a blind spot, a weakness, that enemies can take advantage of. So it is not a cheat.

          I guess Luffy cheats too with his Devbil fruit powers.

          Luffy didn't use his devil fruit powers once during the Bellamy fight.

          GTFO Why wouldn't Sasuke use his sharingan??? I guess Kakashi cheats too huh???

          Kakashi drains most of his energy using the sharingan, as it is unnatural to his body. It has a cost and side effect and usually hospitalizes him when he uses it, so its not nearly as much of a cheat.

          Wats your point??? He was creative and it worked. itachi would be fried right now without his "Cheat" sasanoo right???

          Itachi invented the technique, its fair that he had it. Its not something that was just granted to him by a genetic fluke.

          once again where did i say Naruto doesn't use clones???? WTF Naruto main moves is clones. 99.999% of his moves are made for clone.

          Again, you said his fights were creative. That 99.999% of his moves are made for clones just proves the point, that his fights are boring and repetitive.

          He said it in the start that he loves that jutsu. He uses it to solve everything(resengan training,Sage mode etc….) I never said naruto never use clones. Stop making crap up.

          And I never said that was my point. Naruto always uses his clones, as you yourself seem to be agreeing. How is that interesting time after time?

          -Luffy, while fight against Django, became hypnotised and won through sheer berserker ability. Not a strategy, but a unique and different way to win.
          -Luffy, while fighting Arlong, used his devil fruit powers to make a tornado, a pinwheel, stetched his neck to breathe underwater, and formed a net with his fingers. None of these moves have been repeated since, and in fact, most arcs have at least one unique application of his powers.
          -Luffy has gone without his powers entirely against Bellamy.
          -Luffy against Crocadile drank a gallon of water and spit it, and then later used blood to get past Crocadile's weaknesses.
          -Against Enel, when Enel used mantra to predict Luffy's moves, Luffy bounced his attacks off a wall, so that even Luffy himself wouldn't know where the attacks would land.
          -WHile fighting Foxy, who had time stopping powers, Luffy used a shard of glass to reflect Foxy's powers back. And won the fight regardless of Luffy's own powers.
          -Against CP9, Luffy invented Gear 2 and Gear 3, giving him speed, steam, and giant limbs of power.
          -WHile fighting Moria, Luffy used Moria's own technique against him to absorb 100 shadows and become Nightmare Luffy, a 1 time only powerup that was ion fact, a strategy.
          -On Amazon Lily, Luffy used the two snake sisters and their fire attack against each other. And then he immediatley turned around and protected them and their secret. None of this really required his devil fruit.
          -In Impel Down, against a pack of wolves, Luffy used his massive natural intimidation to scare them off.
          -Again, In Impel Down, Luffy covered himself with wax so he could attack a posion man.

          And thats not even getting into the variety of Zoro's sword attacks, Nami's control of the weather, Sanji's fire theme (and his ability to kick enemies pretty) Chopper's multiple transformations, or Usopp's bluffs involving a combination of sniping, trickery, and inflatable 10 ton baloons to scare his opponents, Robins use of her multiple limbs for karate or creating wings made of hands, or Franky and his 1001 wacky cyborg abilities. Every one of them has had distinct and different fights every time, showcasing new and different abiltiies while still using some of the old. (And then of course there's Buggy turning himself into a car.)

          One Piece has far more variety in its fights than Naruto.

          Who you yourself are admitting, always uses copies and fireballs in every Nartuo fight, and Sharingan in every Sasuke fight.

          (And Sasuke's entire move set comes from Kakashi and Rock Lee, Orochimaru, and his own brother. Sasuke hasn't invented a single unique move of his own.)

          Rock Lee at least had some variety, adding drunken style to his second battle.
          Shikimaru actually DOES have strategies.
          Choji has his pills of death that allowed him a couple of new tricks.
          Sakura has copied Tsunade's move set.
          Konohamaru has copied Naruto's move set.

          One Piece has more variety in its battles.

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            Stop it, Robby, you're just making me remember how good this series could have been if Sasuke had died in Part 1…

            Exactly. Our library has started buying Naruto manga, so I have had the chance to read part1 easily in high quality. It makes me very very sad to read its awesomeness and then remember what it has turned.

            I read vol 21 (The one with Chouji's fight against Jiroubou) today. Shikamaru made a strategy how they would line up (and it actually made sense), the whole team was not about "Let's not get into Naruto's way!", all members of the team got to do something and a side character got a backstory, character development and a 3-chapter-long fight. In the next few volumes a female character will get a fight instead of being just pairing fodder.

            ….And Sakura's ultimate super selfless me-me-me confession. I wish I hadn't read that part...

            Nowadays the fights are just god level ninjas blowing things up in bigger and bigger explosions. And I actually have liked Sakura, but now... Kishi seems to really hate her. The latest spoilers made me understand completely why I love oda for leaving pairings out of One Piece.

            NaruHina sucks.

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              My favorite NaruHina pic

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                If one want exellent battles of wits, read JoJO's bizarre adventure.

                The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.

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                  Oni_Santoryu- Yeah, I love that pic. If Naruto worked with teammates to make his complex fireballs, it would be a lot more interesting than the redundant masterbation it currently is.

                  Jarhead-Yes. Jojo is indeed badass.

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                    @Jarhead:

                    If one want exellent battles of wits, read JoJO's bizarre adventure.

                    Or Death Note, although once L dies it's less a battle of wits and more a battle of Light trying to cockblock Near and failing.

                    I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                      Or Death Note, although once ******* it's less a battle of wits and more a battle of Light trying to cockblock Near and failing.

                      The first half of Deathnote is great, quality storytelling and full of intensity and intrigue and if it had ended there, it would have been a timeless classic.

                      The second half… not so much.

                      ! Seriously. They strapped the note to a rocket? The dude perfectly copies the note and replaces it with a fake the night before and no one notices? ehh… stretching a bit much
                      ! Also, is the series old enough that its okay to go around saying L dies now without spoiler tags? Or is that still kind of a taboo move to pull? I know AMV Hell4 used it over and over.

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                        I'd use spoiler tags.

                        :cwy: It breaks my heart every time I see it.

                        Originally Posted by Silence

                        And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                          If deathnote had finished at that point, it would have been a classic. I often wonder if it was just extended due to its popularity.

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                            If one want exellent battles of wits, read JoJO's bizarre adventure.

                            I kinda lost intrest after third season (Stardust crusaders) just because I dont really like Stands.

                            Does stands become more intresting later on and will it be as awesome as first two parts?

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                              Oyah, I started reading Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. I don't remember who said it, but they were right. The main's pretty annoying at first.

                              Originally Posted by Silence

                              And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                I kinda lost intrest after third season (Stardust crusaders) just because I dont really like Stands.

                                Does stands become more intresting later on and will it be as awesome as first two parts?

                                The stands in Stardust Crusaders were basically the most generic and plain ones. They only become more and more fascinating and interesting and unique after it. You really ought to read the rest! Part 4 is awesome.

                                Originally Posted by Wagomu

                                There's a great lighthearted vibe around here, because no matter how serious we might get, we're all together because of some magical pirate.

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                                  Oyah, I started reading Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. I don't remember who said it, but they were right. The main's pretty annoying at first.

                                  Jump to part 3.
                                  Those two first are good but nothing aganist the 3rd one.

                                  The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.

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                                    Meh, too lazy to skip.

                                    I'd rather have something to match it up against.

                                    Originally Posted by Silence

                                    And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                      If Naruto worked with teammates to make his complex fireballs, it would be a lot more interesting than the redundant masterbation it currently is.

                                      This keeps confusing me. It's Suxgay that spams fireballs. Naruto spams Rasengans (pure chakra). Which, really, only proves your point more. Kage Bunshin is to Sharingan as Fireball spam is to Rasengan spam. Suxgay is hateful and emo, Naruto is hopeful and emo.

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                                        This keeps confusing me. It's Suxgay that spams fireballs. Naruto spams Rasengans (pure chakra). Which, really, only proves your point more. Kage Bunshin is to Sharingan as Fireball spam is to Rasengan spam. Suxgay is hateful and emo, Naruto is hopeful and emo.

                                        Its a little ball of energy generated in the hands that blows stuff up.

                                        Its a fireball, with or without any actual physical fire involved. Same way Ryu or Goku throw fireballs when they make a hadouken or kamehameha. It may be all inner energy generated, but it creates the look and practical effect of a ball of fire. (Or in some cases, beams) "Fireball" in the fighting series technique sense, rather than a literal "ball of fire".

                                        But fine. Chakraball, if you insist on being technical.

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                                          I was only commenting on how it is confusing because in this series a "ball of fire" fireball is frequently used by the other main character. Even more so when you are comparing how somebody overuses a given technique, like Sasuke overuses the "ball of fire" fireball.

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                                            I remember when I was still hopeful at the beginning of Naruto Shippuden that Sasuke and Sakura would disappear and Naruto and Hinata would get together. I had started making this clay heart with chibi Naruto and Hinata holding hands. I never finished it… I just couldn't. I think I have a pic of it when I was showing it to a friend...searches

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                                              You Naru/Hina shippers are delusional in your daydreaming. Especially Robby's pics. Any pic showing Naruto and Hinata touching with Hinata not being passed out or about to faint is a lie.

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                                                @Chrissie:

                                                I remember when I was still hopeful at the beginning of Naruto Shippuden that Sasuke and Sakura would disappear and Naruto and Hinata would get together. I had started making this clay heart with chibi Naruto and Hinata holding hands. I never finished it… I just couldn't. I think I have a pic of it when I was showing it to a friend...searches

                                                can we get a video or picture of you smashing that clay heart on concrete?

                                                It would seem appropriate

                                                @ Dirt Monkey AL- About JJBA, keep reading on. The first parts are a little dry and somewhat tough to get through… but there's plenty of bad-ass moments to be found in there. Part 2 is worlds better than part 1, although still somewhat dry... Joseph's personality literally saves it. But you shouldn't skip anything... cause before you know it, JJBA pulls the badass rug out from under your feet!

                                                -this kind of bad-ass rug

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                                                  @Phoenix:

                                                  You Naru/Hina shippers are delusional in your daydreaming. Especially Robby's pics. Any pic showing Naruto and Hinata touching with Hinata not being passed out or about to faint is a lie.

                                                  I know, I know. THIS is the true pairing.

                                                  Still, sentimentality persists from part 1.

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                                                    can we get a video or picture of you smashing that clay heart on concrete?

                                                    It would seem appropriate

                                                    It would indeed but I don't like destroying stuff I made. I would've tossed it from a roof already if I did! XD

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                                                      I know, I know. THIS is the true pairing.
                                                      [qimg]http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4900000/Sasuke-and-Naruto-yaoi-4946188-604-500.jpg[/qimg]

                                                      Still, sentimentality persists from part 1.

                                                      INDEED. Yaoi Naruto can never forgot his first kiss.

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                                                        Originally Posted by Silence

                                                        And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                          I know, I know. THIS is the true pairing.
                                                          http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/4900000/Sasuke-and-Naruto-yaoi-4946188-604-500.jpg

                                                          Still, sentimentality persists from part 1.

                                                          And it's the only true pairing that is in the spotlight.
                                                          Shiki x Temariwindgal was not real. They just like to bake.

                                                          The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness.

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                                                            It would indeed but I don't like destroying stuff I made. I would've tossed it from a roof already if I did! XD

                                                            I can respect that logic.

                                                            Well, a picture of you shaking your fist at it would suffice.

                                                            -oh and I totally just posted a picture of a badass rug people!

                                                            jeez

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                                                              is

                                                              is that

                                                              that image hosting site is called fanpop

                                                              FANPOP

                                                              Originally Posted by Silence

                                                              And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                the bad-ass rug? or the yaoi?

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                                                                  woa wtf, was just looking at what to watch in few hours and a 7-9 on disney xd if four new episodes of naruto shippuden.

                                                                  apparantly naruto is a big deal still over here in the U.S. i guess. would love to see a one piece 2 hour time slot.

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                                                                    Why was Hinata killed off again?

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                                                                      Why was Hinata killed off again?

                                                                      Japanese men like firebrands.

                                                                      MUV-LUV ALTERNATIVE

                                                                      Making Anime and Manga OBSOLETE since 2006

                                                                      PM me for details

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                                                                          the bad-ass rug? or the yaoi?

                                                                          the SHOUNEN AI

                                                                          GET IT RIGHT

                                                                          Originally Posted by Silence

                                                                          And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                            there is toooo many love in this thread! i can´t stand it anymore

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                                                                              Romance? Or tragedy?

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                                                                                all of the great romances are tragedies, bobart

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                                                                                Originally Posted by Silence

                                                                                And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                                  My favorite Nartuo pairing was LeexGai.

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                                                                                    Remember the great Orichi/Sasu romance. All those years of pedo buttsex in the cave just for Suckcock to grow up and try to kill a withering Orichi in his bed with a electric sword. A romance of 7 years that ended in tragedy.

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                                                                                      @Kitsune:

                                                                                      My favorite Nartuo pairing was LeexGai.

                                                                                      Gai x Kakashi dude!

                                                                                      Also Kisame x Killer Bee = most badass baby of all time.

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                                                                                        Everyone with everyone.

                                                                                        @Phoenix:

                                                                                        Remember the great Orichi/Sasu romance. All those years of pedo buttsex in the cave just for Suckcock to grow up and try to kill a withering Orichi in his bed with a electric sword. A romance of 7 years that ended in tragedy.

                                                                                        Don't forget how the jealous Kabuto figures into that setup. Kabuto, who just wants Orochi… inside him.

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                                                                                          how about Tobi/Madara?

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                                                                                          -.-

                                                                                          "Going against the flow? Just means you're swimming in place. One day you are too tired to paddle, and suddenly you drown. Whole thing was pointless and now you're dead THE END. Now, going with the flow is where it's at - and that's the dandy way to live." - Space Dandy

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                                                                                            Everyone with everyone.

                                                                                            ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE

                                                                                            NO SASUKE THE BEAST

                                                                                            bobby, for shame

                                                                                            Originally Posted by Silence

                                                                                            And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.

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                                                                                              ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE

                                                                                              NO SASUKE THE BEAST

                                                                                              bobby, for shame

                                                                                              Hes in there, right behind narutos ass. Guess what hes doing there.

                                                                                              "Going against the flow? Just means you're swimming in place. One day you are too tired to paddle, and suddenly you drown. Whole thing was pointless and now you're dead THE END. Now, going with the flow is where it's at - and that's the dandy way to live." - Space Dandy

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                                                                                                @robbybevard:

                                                                                                Naruto: "Cut the bullshit, Sakura."

                                                                                                I suddenly have newfound respect for Naruto.

                                                                                                Damn, the Naruto spoilers tie with the Op spoilers because of this. Fucking MAH.

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                                                                                                  there is toooo many love in this thread! i can´t stand it anymore

                                                                                                  No, needs moar.

                                                                                                  nsCXZczTQXo

                                                                                                  I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                                                                                                    the SHOUNEN AI

                                                                                                    GET IT RIGHT

                                                                                                    hoo, tough crowd

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                                                                                                    Are you insulting forum icon Gekko135.

                                                                                                    Because if it's a whuppin' you're a wantin', then I'm more then happy to oblige.

                                                                                                    woah, I just found this.

                                                                                                    nice, my day has been made!

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                                                                                                      @Blackbeast:

                                                                                                      there is toooo many love in this thread! i can´t stand it anymore

                                                                                                      @Fire Fist:

                                                                                                      No, needs moar.

                                                                                                      Neads moar love love love.

                                                                                                      SpwK3vFGJp0
                                                                                                      Hey, does everyone know what time it is?

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                                                                                                        @Chrissie:

                                                                                                        I remember when I was still hopeful at the beginning of Naruto Shippuden that Sasuke and Sakura would disappear and Naruto and Hinata would get together. I had started making this clay heart with chibi Naruto and Hinata holding hands. I never finished it… I just couldn't. I think I have a pic of it when I was showing it to a friend...searches

                                                                                                        See I used to like that pairing too, but the more this story goes on the more I think Hinata can totally do better.

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