I can't wait to see Magellan's face when he sees fully recovered Luffy 
Chapter 538 "Lv5.5 New Comer (Kama) Land" Discussion
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I can't wait to see crocodile when Luffy reaches lvl6 .
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i wanna see what his reaction is going to be seeing mr 2 helping luffy out. btw since shiryuu is a swordsman could mr 1 end up being his opponent?
seriously he is the least one we should expect now. Maybe if Mr.3 free him but how can they get to level 5 without being busted?
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Luffy traded 10 years of his life to get a 2.3% chance to survive the treatment. Surviving the treatment firstly means that the poison was eliminated from his body. Now we can imagine what would be the side effects of all this.
1. The constant mind could have strengthen his will
2. His body could be as good as new due to the regeneration (many organs and cells had been regenerated)
3. i don't knowYou have to think about it in this terms and why the natural immunity concept works or makes sense to work. We know Luffy will face Magellan again. That much is basically guaranteed. I figured there was a antidote to all of Magellan's poisons but we know now that isn't the case. Haki doesn't work as well since it'll probably negate the poison DF defense but then the problem is if Luffy takes to much poison damage post fight he'll be in the same condiction or less severve condition as he was earlier.
So basically since there isn't no cure for all of Magellan's poisons Luffy would basically have to get a flawless victory on Magellan in the rematch. Which I don't really see happening esppecially since hitting Magellan automatically inflicts poison on your hands. Luffy will most likely take poison damage and again since there's no cure Iva will have to do a immunity cure again and there goes another 10 years of Luffy's life. Again I don't really see Oda going with a immunity cure a 2nd time when he just did it in the very same arc.
Now what's good with the immunity concept. Is Luffy can go all out with Magellan and Magellan can inflict Luffy with poison. You may see some effects of the poison but it won't affect him as bad as the first fight poison did and Luffy can go on a bit to help in Ace's escape. Eventually he'll pass out when its safe but it won't instantly knock him out. Then why he's passed out the natural immunity he built up will kill any remaining poison in Luffy body. No immunity means hey Iva let's drain another 10 years from Luffy's life.
Or course to be fair Shiryuu is the wild card. Luffy could get full poison immunity and rape Magellan in the rematch and then go on to face Shiryuu the arcs true endboss. But again this isn't likely since Oda likes to hype up the arc endboss. Magellan has gotten the hype especially since he already defeated Luffy earlier while Shiryuu came out of nofuckingwhere.
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ha yea, and you seriously think that mr. 1 would even stand a chance. pretty sure Zoro would have a really hard time beating this guy, if he even could. And you honestly think that swordsman on zoro's level wouldn't know how to cut steel already
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You have to think about it in this terms and why the natural immunity concept works or makes sense to work. We know Luffy will face Magellan again. That much is basically guaranteed. I figured there was a antidote to all of Magellan's poisons but we know now that isn't the case. Haki doesn't work as well since it'll probably negate the poison DF defense but then the problem is if Luffy takes to much poison damage post fight he'll be in the same condiction or less severve condition as he was earlier.
So basically since there isn't no cure for all of Magellan's poisons Luffy would basically have to get a flawless victory on Magellan in the rematch. Which I don't really see happening. Luffy will most likely take poison damage and again since there's no cure Iva will have to do a immunity cure again and there goes another 10 years of Luffy's life. Again I don't really see Oda going with a immunity cure a 2nd time.
Now what's good with the immunity concept. Is Luffy can go all out with Magellan and Magellan can inflict Luffy with poison. You may see some effects of the poison but it won't affect him as bad as the first fight poison did and Luffy can go on a bit to help in Ace's escape. Eventually he'll pass out when its safe but it won't instantly knock him out. Then why he's passed out the natural immunity he built up will kill any remaining poison in Luffy body. No immunity means hey Iva let's drain another 10 years from Luffy's life.
i agree with that and i've always thought that magellan wouldn't be the final boss in this arc. there is more to come you just wait and see.
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I can understand the Luffy becoming Immune to the poisons he encountered. Because people can become immune to poison if they take a bit at a time and heal, and keep doing this for years. It has been done by some people. And if you think of this process was sort of speeded up by Iva, Luffy having a poison in him and then healing, succumbing, healing ect until it is fixed.
I could very well see him being immune to the poisons he took, not sure how many poisons magdallen has that he didn't use on luffy. But the theory of luffy being immune isn't bad. I wouldn't complain. Heck there is more to worry about that poison in The New World. I mean heck i have seen anime/manga that haven't ever even had poison used as a weapon so its not like making luffy immune would be that cheap of a thing.
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As strong as Mr. 1 is… he won't stand a chance against this guy. This guy is equal to Megellan... and Megellan just easily kicked the shit of Luffy.
It's pretty obvious.. that Megellan and this Shiyru guy is at a Schchibukai level. Only.. may be.. just may be.. Zoro can face him and not be totally humiliated.
Awesome chapter!
I feel like Luffy has "powered up" now.. right??? That whole bit about his body being destroyed and made again over and over again.. seems like a typical manga explanation for: He will be stronger than ever.
Perhaps he'll be immune to all poisons? even without Haki.. since his body has naturally fought off all kind of poison.
I forsee Megellan getting pwned... very soon...
*Free the Level 6 Prisonsers!!!
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You have to think about it in this terms and why the natural immunity concept works or makes sense to work. We know Luffy will face Magellan again. That much is basically guaranteed. I figured there was a antidote to all of Magellan's poisons but we know now that isn't the case. Haki doesn't work as well since it'll probably negate the poison DF defense but then the problem is if Luffy takes to much poison damage post fight he'll be in the same condiction or less severve condition as he was earlier.
So basically since there isn't no cure for all of Magellan's poisons Luffy would basically have to get a flawless victory on Magellan in the rematch. Which I don't really see happening. Luffy will most likely take poison damage and again since there's no cure Iva will have to do a immunity cure again and there goes another 10 years of Luffy's life. Again I don't really see Oda going with a immunity cure a 2nd time.
Now what's good with the immunity concept. Is Luffy can go all out with Magellan and Magellan can inflict Luffy with poison. You may see some effects of the poison but it won't affect him as bad as the first fight poison did and Luffy can go on a bit to help in Ace's escape. Eventually he'll pass out when its safe but it won't instantly knock him out. Then why he's passed out the natural immunity he built up will kill any remaining poison in Luffy body. No immunity means hey Iva let's drain another 10 years from Luffy's life.
And what's wrong with immunity is that luffy didn't improved anybit by thinking. He just got immunity by getting healed by a body magician… Imo that is a little cheap. No offense to you i enjoy your posts but i have to disagree with the immunity idea.
Seriously i'm tired from the gears techniques. It isn't as great as it was against blueno. It has so many side effects. Now luffy will still do it without thinking about new battle techniques? Where is the improvement? Immunity to poison?
With all the haki hints i would be disapppointed if luffy doesn't learn a bit about it and starts to use it consciously.Magellan comes in front of luffy and Mr.2
Mr.2: luffy let's run. We don't stand a chance..
Luffy: No i will fight him. I won't loose to that guy again...
Magellan attacks luffy attack with something new.That would be interesting since i consider ID to be a training arc. A new technique will be refreshing.
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I forsee Megellan getting pwned… very soon...
*Free the Level 6 Prisonsers!!!
i don't know about freeing the level 6 prisoners. though i do want to see this scary pirate girl. we only have seen really bonny, and alvida. want to see some more pirate girls. though she won't look cool cause will be in gay prison clothes instead of her pimp pirate outfit.
but if you free level 6 prisoners then you also it sounds like free this merciless prison guard who is on magdallen level
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ha yea, and you seriously think that mr. 1 would even stand a chance. pretty sure Zoro would have a really hard time beating this guy, if he even could. And you honestly think that swordsman on zoro's level wouldn't know how to cut steel already
i think part of the reason why mr 1 was defeated was because he got cocky and didn't think people could cut him. if he goes into a fight with a swordsman knowing it's very possible then i could see him being a very formidable opponent to any swordsman. he might not be able to completely stop shiryuu but i think he would be able to hold him down for a some time while luffy, mr 2 and whoever else comes with them makes their way out of impel down by going up. if he does get released it's probably going to be after magellan is defeated and they make a deal with him and offer him his freedom if he defeats luffy and the rest of the people that broke out.
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Maybe Shiryuu's where Mr. 1 got that new scar of his on his face.
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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And what's wrong with immunity is that luffy didn't improved anybit by thinking. He just got immunity by getting healed by a body magician… Imo that is a little cheap. No offense to you i enjoy your posts but i have to disagree with the immunity idea.
Seriously i'm tired from the gears techniques. It isn't as great as it was against blueno. It has so many side effects. Now luffy will still do it without thinking about new battle techniques? Where is the improvement? Immunity to poison?
With all the haki hints i would be disapppointed if luffy doesn't learn a bit about it and starts to use it consciously.Magellan comes in front of luffy and Mr.2
Mr.2: luffy let's run. We don't stand a chance..
Luffy: No i will fight him. I won't loose to that guy again...
Magellan attacks luffy attack with something new.That would be interesting since i consider ID to be a training arc. A new technique will be refreshing.
well yea being immune does all of sudden make people think "oh cheap, he just got lucky and became immune"
well that is kind of how the show has worked, and the crew is always thought of as the lucky crew. I mean he shot water up at croc and missed, then sucked dry and luckily water landed back on him with croc gone. nico robin happened to have the antidote for his poison. Luffy was immune to Enel. The castle/main mast fell on Moria causing ALL the shadows to be blown out. Luffy landed on the ONLY possible place that made it even 1/1000000000 chance of getting into Impel Down.
And now, lets think of how to become immune to poison. You can take small doses of a poison for years to build up a tolerance to it. But Luffy gets hit with a shit ton of poison and mutliple types, but luckily happens to be saved by bon chan, then taken to a place where someone has a devil fruit (super rare in itself) that happens to have a hormone power, which allows him to let luffy's body break down, heal, break down, heal ect. at an accelerated rate that equals years of healing (super rare upon super rare has the ONLY fruit that could do this). Sounds to me like this is impossible for even the impossible chances of these exact circumstances to happen.
I mean a person would have to get into Impel Down, fight magdallen and get all his poison attacks, then find Ivasan (who even all personal don't even know where he is) and get him to want to heal you, and then only having a 2.3% chance of living. Its like taking 1 in a million chance upon 1 in a million upon a 1 in a million and so on.
never been a problem before having some handicap power up to win. immune to lightning, nightmare moria, water luffy, immune to poison luffy.
i really could care less, as i said before I don't really see the future having any more poison battles so whatever. Its not like whitebeard/shanks/ect are using pioson in their weapons. The new world is too good for that.
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yeah it's not that the future opponents are magellan or crocodile. It's time for luffy to make a step to overcome DF protections or something else anything else he can use in the future battles and won't make him loose so bad against guys like kuma or Sentomarou :(
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I can see Shiryuu taking on Jinbei, while Luffy takes on Magellan, and Croc taking on one of the pirate prisoners. I have HIGH hopes for this battle. I truly feel that Luffy won't be involved in the upcoming war, for Luffy has his own war to fight in. This chapter really made up for that snore fest, that was last chapter.
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so Ace was on lvl 6 oh well. I'm glad to see that my theory about luffy will being the deciding factor came true kind of….
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@Muscle:
I can see Shiryuu taking on Jinbei, while Luffy takes on Magellan, and Croc taking on one of the pirate prisoners. I have HIGH hopes for this battle. I truly feel that Luffy won't be involved in the upcoming war, for Luffy has his own war to fight in.
why would croc help. he wants Whitebeard dead.
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@Muscle:
I can see Shiryuu taking on Jinbei, while Luffy takes on Magellan, and Croc taking on one of the pirate prisoners. I have HIGH hopes for this battle. I truly feel that Luffy won't be involved in the upcoming war, for Luffy has his own war to fight in.
i don't know if luffy will participate directly in the upcoming war but if whitebeard is gonna die i want luffy to meet him before he does and see whitebeard die with his own eyes.
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Iva-san is a fantastic glutton.
I'm still gaping over how damn thin Luffy is now though.
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why would croc help. he wants Whitebeard dead.
I didn't even say Croc would help Luffy, I just said he would take on one of the Pirate prisoners, but to answer your question, You think Croc enjoys his stay at Impel Down so much not to fight to get out?
i don't know if luffy will participate directly in the upcoming war but if whitebeard is gonna die i want luffy to meet him before he does and see whitebeard die with his own eyes.
What would that do, its not like Luffy knows him.=/
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Hmm. This was a good chapter. Yes. Much good there was. First of all, let me state for the record that I find this chapter to be MUCH better than our fake spoiler. Though I will admit our spoiler was deliciously good as well, including – for spoilerific purposes -- much less content than a full chapter would have. That aside, a few things about this chapter that stuck out to me:
- Iva-san creeps the – in the words of Ivotas -- smurf outta me.
- Bon-chan had a plethora of facial expressions.
- Iva-san is a glutton!! I had myself a chuckle.
- Much emotion was astir. GOO LUFFY!!
Guys, seriously, […] look at this discussion I had with Brennen.exe when we were
decidingdiscussing the fake spoilers!!It's true, I was there.
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i don't know. he didn't want to escape back before he was sent to impel down. who knows.
but fighting any prisoners makes no sense if he wants to escape.
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@Muscle:
I didn't even say Croc would help Luffy, I just said he would take on one of the Pirate prisoners, but to answer your question, You think Croc enjoys his stay at Impel Down?
There was already a discussion about crocs motive not to evade with miss goldenweek (that painting chick)… But actually he might try to evade since there is war out there and there is much fame to get from it.
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i don't know. he didn't want to escape back before he was sent to impel down. who knows.
What?! Croc showed distaste in wanting to escape Impel Down? They must have good cell service there.
but fighting any prisoners makes no sense if he wants to escape.
It won't be that hard for Oda to draw up a reason for big time Impel down level six prisoners to fight each other. Heck we already had one prisoner on level 5 who tried to get Mr 2 and Luffy killed, who didn't care about escape. My point is whatever Croc is for, he will have to fight for it, weather its for escape or just wanting to get back at Luffy.
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@Muscle:
What?! Croc showed distaste in wanting to escape Impel Down? They must have good cell service there.
It won't be that hard for Oda to draw up a reason for big time Impel down level six prisoners to fight each other. Heck we already had one prisoner on level 5 who tried to get Mr 2 and Luffy killed. My point is whatever Croc is for he will fight, if its for escape of not.
no croc knew he was going to impel down and didn't care. he just sat there and didn't escape. same with mr. 1. and in these chapter have yet to see any change in them wanting out. only hint at all is croc wanting whitebeard dead.
so him fighting any prisoners seems retarded. and everyone always praises croc as being like L or something from death note, some genious. so then do you think he would be tricked into fighting someone?
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And what's wrong with immunity is that luffy didn't improved anybit by thinking. He just got immunity by getting healed by a body magician… Imo that is a little cheap. No offense to you i enjoy your posts but i have to disagree with the immunity idea.
Seriously i'm tired from the gears techniques. It isn't as great as it was against blueno. It has so many side effects. Now luffy will still do it without thinking about new battle techniques? Where is the improvement? Immunity to poison?
With all the haki hints i would be disapppointed if luffy doesn't learn a bit about it and starts to use it consciously.Magellan comes in front of luffy and Mr.2
Mr.2: luffy let's run. We don't stand a chance..
Luffy: No i will fight him. I won't loose to that guy again...
Magellan attacks luffy attack with something new.That would be interesting since i consider ID to be a training arc. A new technique will be refreshing.
Meh you're jumping the gun abit. First off Luffy probably doesn't know that he has immunity from Magellan's poison until they actually have a rematch. So most likely before he faces him for the rematch he may think up a new technique to face him since Gear 2nd didn't work. Immunity isn't really cheap since that's a logical way for some people to overcome poison. Cheaper would be the whole vulcanization theory where Luffy gets his ass kicked then by circumstance he becomes Super Volcaniyan Luffy out of nofuckingwhere and easily rapes Magellan in the rematch.
Remember Luffy hasn't went all out yet Magellan. So if he has a new technique he'll pull it off then. What's great about the immunity concept is Luffy finally can go all out. I agree though if Luffy has full immunity and the poison doesn't have any effects at all then it'll be cheap with Luffy getting a easy win. I would like a rematch where Luffy doesn't instantly sucuumb to the poison with the poison having a slower effect and there actually being a fight. Magellan and Luffy having a back and forth battle. Luffy wins and then passes out from the poison later. Then the immunity healing him after. Not a rape rematch since Luffy has full immunity or a new technique Luffy gets and Magallen get's Blueno'd in the rematch.
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@Muscle:
What would that do, its not like Luffy knows him.=/
i want luffy to see what a legendary pirate is like and how powerful of a fighter he is. that way luffy can know what kinda power he will need to become pirate king. i'm sure luffy would probably be in awe of whitebeard if he did meet him and saw him fight at full power.
i don't know. he didn't want to escape back before he was sent to impel down. who knows.
but fighting any prisoners makes no sense if he wants to escape.
he didn't want to escape because he saw no reason to. now that he knows whitebeard is probably going to die then that might motivate him to throw his hat in again into the pirate king race. whitebeard above all emperors was probably the one guy most pirates could not see themselves ever being able to surpass and with him gone many pirates would probably fight it out and try to take his territory and power.
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@CCC:
Amen.
Decent chapter. Luffy's early recovery seems forced, but we knew it had to happen, right?
If Iva and the Newkamas don't help out, I can't see Luffy defeating Magellan, Magellan's equal with a sword, Sadi, the remaining beasts, and whichever VA(s)/Akainu came to escort Ace away. I hope Zoro shows up… T_TWell, Luffy has a ton of help. Are you forgetting about Bon-chan, Galdino, and Buggy? Not to mention all the okam-…err...peoplesables that are in Level 5.5. hahaha...
As for Luffy's "early" recovery? In all honesty, Oda went out of his way to show how much time Luffy actually took to recover. I mean, considering things like Thriller Bark where he was supposed to be out for two days and he was awake in a few hours if that. Here, we had a 10-hr timeskip where Luffy is writhing in pain, then a 3-hr timeskip, then a 7-hr timeskip, and then an 8-hr timeskip. I'm no mathematician but that's 28hrs of Luffy downtime where it was supposed to be 48 hrs. Seems to me as though Luffy's going through a real struggle.
I enjoyed this chapter, though I'm saddened by the lack of Luffiko.. hahaha! But as much as that april fool's spoiler was a gag, I still think it's impressive dirt brenkey came up with the idea of more timeskips and luffy recovering faster.
Either way, I get the feeling that Oda is building up a rollercoaster ride for us right now. We're slowly climbing to the top and then.... Luffiko will emerge! LOL - couldn't resist.
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i took it as 18 total hours, not 10 +3+7+8. But 10 +3+4+1. cause wasn't ace's excecution like 16 hours afer the 10 hours. and if it was the way you said already 18 hours so he would be dead.
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no croc knew he was going to impel down and didn't care. he just sat there and didn't escape.same with mr. 1. and in these chapter have yet to see any change in them wanting out. only hint at all is croc wanting whitebeard dead.
You really don't understand, my main point at all do you?
As for whats in the bold, maybe the opportunity for escape has yet to present itself.so him fighting any prisoners seems retarded. and everyone always praises croc as being like L or something from death note, some genious. so then do you think he would be tricked into fighting someone?
My point is that Croc will fight, weather it is for escape or just wanting to get back. Hell, we have already seen a prisoner on Level 5 who tried to kill Luffy and Mr 2, by tricking them, thats the nature of this place. So you saying a prisoners fighting another seems retarded, makes you retarded, since that is what type of place this is.
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i took it as 18 total hours, not 10 +3+7+8. But 10 +3+4+1. cause wasn't ace's excecution like 16 hours afer the 10 hours. and if it was the way you said already 18 hours so he would be dead.
Well, I thought the scene with Iva-san talking to Luffy about the treatment was a flashback… was this incorrect? I was calculating the total time Luffy spent recovering. Oh wait, now I see what you mean.... the 3hrs, then 7hrs, then 8hrs is all from an original point of reference.... that normally isn't One Piece's style, but perhaps I need to go re-read that section.
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Good chapter. Ivankov is pretty interesting and the whole explanation about 5.5 and 6 levels was interesting as well, although not quite necessary.
Good chapter, but that's all, I thought it would be much better since we are in the New Kama Land \o\o//o/… let's see how Shiryu will play in the story.I know everyone hates "for SH" talk, but it's really hard to read this chapter and not see Bentham as a SH.
And,well, he became quite random since Oda decided to make him look badass instead of simply okamaish, so I don't know if I will like it :/ I don't want another Franky (a character who started amazing, but became really boring after he got old).EDIT: Ivankov said it would take 7~8 hours until the time Ace would be conducted outside ID (he would be executed at 15h, but take out there in the morning). So you can be sure it was just 8 hours after that and not 3+7+8.
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I don't get your points at all they are totally baseless. Crocodile KNEW he was going to Impel Down. Had a chance to escape easily and chose not too. So we can see he clearly doesn't care and wouldn't escape. But we did see that in Impel Down he said he wanted Whitebeard dead, so he might want to leave and get that chance to kill him or know he would be dead. But he still looked calm as ever and didn't seem to care being in Impel Down, neither did Mr. 1.
And the guy who tricked them into the forest is different. He did tell the truth, he might be seeing somebody once in a while. And there is a huge difference between two pirates that are gonna escape fighting each other, than someone getting amusement out of telling another to head into the woods. I mean that prisoner knows there is no chance of escape and is just getting amusement out of telling him to go there.
And your point is Croc will fight? why the hell would he fight again. i have shown that he doesn't care and won't escape. If the possibility that he does decide to the other prisoners all seemed to show WAY MORE ENTHUESIASM than him for wanting whitebeard dead. So now tell me WHY would fighting crocodile be in their benefit of escaping impel down.
There has been no fighting amonst prisoners that are free yet. all of them were working together to escape/fight/riot ect.
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Well, I thought the scene with Iva-san talking to Luffy about the treatment was a flashback… was this incorrect? I was calculating the total time Luffy spent recovering. Oh wait, now I see what you mean.... the 3hrs, then 7hrs, then 8hrs is all from an original point of reference.... that normally isn't One Piece's style, but perhaps I need to go re-read that section.
i dont' know, its hard to tell till chapter is out. It is only 18 hours. you know 3 hours, shows something, then 7 hours (mr 2 wakes up). then 8 hours later.
so its either 18 hours that way, 18 hours other way or 28 hours like you thought. But at end of last chapter didn't it show Ace execution in 16 hours (from the 10), so thats why assuming 18 hours total
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EDIT: Ivankov said it would take 7~8 hours until the time Ace would be conducted outside ID (he would be executed at 15h, but take out there in the morning). So you can be sure it was just 8 hours after that and not 3+7+8.
Yeah, I've realized my error. Thanks. Either way, Luffy still spent alot of time recovering compared to what it normally takes him.
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Yeah, I've realized my error. Thanks. Either way, Luffy still spent alot of time recovering compared to what it normally takes him.
yea what was it supposed to take 2 days, or 10 hours plus 2 days. And then 3 days recovery/sleep or what not.
and luffy is up in 18 hours instead of 48-58 hours. and will most likely be healed after an hour of eating
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Re-reading kudou's translation. Ivankov actually states that Luffy spent 20hrs battling hard, so that's the amount of time he needed to get through this part of his recovery.
So, is it safe to assume that it's about 8am on the morning of Ace's Execution. So, 7hrs left. Is this right now? Man, this is about to get pretty crazy.
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Situation with Croc is different than the time he didn't escape with Ms. Goldenweek.
World's about to go to war. Lots of opportunities to be had.
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I don't get your points at all they are totally baseless. Crocodile KNEW he was going to Impel Down. Had a chance to escape easily and chose not too. So we can see he clearly doesn't care and wouldn't escape.
Show me because, I do not remember.
But we did see that in Impel Down he said he wanted Whitebeard dead, so he might want to leave and get that chance to kill him or know he would be dead. But he still looked calm as ever and didn't seem to care being in Impel Down, neither did Mr. 1.
We are going in circles.
@Muscle:
You really don't understand, my main point at all do you?
As for whats in the bold, maybe the opportunity for escape has yet to present itself.Its not in Croc's character to panic and yell, "I want to get out, hate it here," like a uncouth mother f**ker, Croc is a cool, calculating bastard.
And the guy who tricked them into the forest is different. He did tell the truth, he might be seeing somebody once in a while. And there is a huge difference between two pirates that are gonna escape fighting each other, than someone getting amusement out of telling another to head into the woods.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-536/page013.html
No, that prisoner did that to get them killed, hence the reason why his cell mate said he's a dirty bastard. period.@Muscle:
My point is that Croc will fight, weather it is for escape or just wanting to get back. Hell, we have already seen a prisoner on Level 5 who tried to kill Luffy and Mr 2, by tricking them, thats the nature of this place. So you saying a prisoners fighting another seems retarded, makes you retarded, since that is what type of place this is.
And your point is Croc will fight? why the hell would he fight again. i have shown that he doesn't care and won't escape.
You haven't show anything, I have already answered your question, I would like for you to tell me why Croc would NOT fight this arc?
If the possibility that he does decide to the other prisoners all seemed to show WAY MORE ENTHUESIASM than him for wanting whitebeard dead. So now tell me WHY would fighting crocodile be in their benefit of escaping impel down.
If Croc wanted to get back at Luffy, while Luffy was fighting Magellan on Level six, and there was some prisoners who sided with Luffy, just to get a chance at escape, you think they would let Croc have at it with Luffy? Or there could be a rival pirate Corc beat during his days as a Shichibukai, could want to get back at Croc for putting him there in the 1st place, a prisoner who has lost all reason for escape or all of those prisoners could want a piece of Jinbei for being pro Whitebeard. There are many of reasons for Croc to get into a fight this arc. rest assured I'm not saying it will happen this way.
For Croc not to be involved, or play a big role, as friend or foe in this Arc, would be a major waste, which is my point friend.
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your retarded, i'm done talking to you. i will only post this. http://img60.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000403/01.jpg
yes he could have EASILY ESCAPED.the rest i'm ignoring, because you are just talking shit out your ass. ha croc wanting to get back at luffy. or the guy only telling them the forest to kill them.
it happens millions of times in manga where someone says you can find this or that, or that person if you go to this place. then when they leave they laugh because the place they sent them WHILE BEING TRUE happens to be hell or something where they will most likely die. They don't give a shit if the person dies or not, they aren't sending them there to kill them. they just find it funny.
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your retarded, i'm done talking to you. i will only post this. http://img60.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000403/01.jpg
yes he could have EASILY ESCAPED.the rest i'm ignoring, because you are just talking shit out your ass. ha croc wanting to get back at luffy. or the guy only telling them the forest to kill them.
it happens millions of times in manga where someone says you can find this or that, or that person if you go to this place. then when they leave they laugh because the place they sent them WHILE BEING TRUE happens to be hell or something where they will most likely die. They don't give a shit if the person dies or not, they aren't sending them there to kill them. they just find it funny.
Look who's talking.
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and why am i retarded, i clearly showed that croc could have easily escaped but chose not too.
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your retarded, i'm done talking to you. i will only post this. http://img60.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/00000403/01.jpg
yes he could have EASILY ESCAPED.@Sir:
Situation with Croc is different than the time he didn't escape with Ms. Goldenweek.
World's about to go to war. Lots of opportunities to be had.
Why thank you Sir Crocodile, for using your head.
the rest i'm ignoring, because you are just talking shit out your ass. ha croc wanting to get back at luffy. or the guy only telling them the forest to kill them.
@Muscle:
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece…6/page013.html
No, that prisoner did that to get them killed, hence the reason why his cell mate said he's a dirty bastard. period.Hinscher, the only one who proved them self to be lacking in judgment is you, for the simple fact that you ignored my main point, and continued to do so, just for the sake of what ever is a morons reasons for doing that anyway?
@muscle:
For Croc not to be involved, or play a big role, as friend or foe in this Arc, would be a major waste, which is my point friend.
Its been fun friend.
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lol im gonna say it Zoro used haki (will power to survive luffy's pain)
that tran said that in this later chapter: Whether if your survival is possible or impossible hinges upon on vyour "willpowernable"
suposedly Zoro was guarenteed death
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The prisoner did not do it solely for killing bon chan and luffy. it happens millions of times in manga. someone tells someone that you need to go there to find someone or something and leaving out that the place is guaranteed death.
they aren't purposely killing them. they told them the truth, it doesn't matter that he sent them to probably their deaths. as we have seen the prisoners of impel down are loving this amusement to cure their boredom.
and i could see croc and mr. 1 not doing anything this whole arc. why do they need to, they already had their big arc. you would find it a waste, ok. then write your own fanfiction so it comes true.
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And now, lets think of how to become immune to poison. You can take small doses of a poison for years to build up a tolerance to it. But Luffy gets hit with a shit ton of poison and mutliple types, but luckily happens to be saved by bon chan, then taken to a place where someone has a devil fruit (super rare in itself) that happens to have a hormone power, which allows him to let luffy's body break down, heal, break down, heal ect. at an accelerated rate that equals years of healing (super rare upon super rare has the ONLY fruit that could do this). Sounds to me like this is impossible for even the impossible chances of these exact circumstances to happen.
This is probably it. Iva-sama is taking 10 years off of Luffy's life by regenerating his cells multiple times to rid him of the poison. This means that Luffy will have lived with the poison for 10 years (technically) which will give his cells the immunity.
So yes. Luffy will have immunity to all the poison he was exposed to and possibly resistance to other poisons, and eventually gaining immunity to the new poisons. After all, his body will have learned how to fight those other poisons.
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The prisoner did not do it solely for killing bon chan and luffy. it happens millions of times in manga.
Are you not reading the page?
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-536/page013.html
why would his cell mate called him a dirty bastard for leading them into the wolves den. The guy commented back, "oh…. is it really LoL." if the prisoner didn't just do to get them killed he would have warned them, about the Wolfs Den.someone tells someone that you need to go there to find someone or something and leaving out that the place is guaranteed death.
Is that why Ivankov told Mr 2 about the danger of Impel Downs level Six? or Yosaku informing Luffy and Sanji about the dangers of the grand line.
they aren't purposely killing them. they told them the truth, it doesn't matter that he sent them to probably their deaths. as we have seen the prisoners of impel down are loving this amusement to cure their boredom.
Then why did mr 2 not find any old Jailers office, we found wolfs that put Luffy and mr 2 on deaths door step, but no old Jailers office. I guess the guy was trying to get them tricked into getting killed, No wonder why his cell mate call him a bastard, and the guy laugh about it.
and i could see croc and mr. 1 not doing anything this whole arc. why do they need to, they already had their big arc. you would find it a waste, ok. then write your own fanfiction so it comes true.
Why would I do that?
