I think that those early scans on Onemanga are from people who translate the Japanese to Chinese and then to English, that's why they're so bad.
New official Viz media topic V2.
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If that were true every word would be fucked up don't you think?
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No, I don't think.
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Chill out guys. Everyone knows those old scanlations are garbage.
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Can't listen at the moment, anything interesting said?
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Honestly, if I don't know anything about One Piece, Tara description aren't going to convinced me to read the series. There are plenty of thing she could say about One Piece that will set them apart from Naruto and Bleach (since they were comparing those three). If I were her, I would say something about Oda's world building, amazing way to deliver the story, foreshadowing and consistent development that's going to make you re-read One Piece over and over again instead of the common thing you can get from Shonen series. That to me, is what makes One Piece unique because both Naruto and Bleach suffers from plot holes and inconsistency. She did mention Pandaman but assuming I don't know a thing about it, I don't really understand her explanation about how Oda draw the hidden Pandaman on each chapter. The only bit I like was near the end where she said One Piece are targeted to older audience (and more general audience) in response to Lex claiming/assuming One Piece seems to be targeted for younger audience.
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Nice post firecrouch, I'm checking it out now.
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"It's funny that you mention it… I'm a big Narutard."
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A few reviewers seemed to have latched on to One Piece now thanks to the speed up when they previously ignored it. Then I come across stuff like these guys.
Well that's just dumb. I mean, you don't jump right into the middle of One Piece (in the middle of the friggin' Skypiea Arc!). I mean, that's like walking into a movie theater an hour into the movie. Of course you're not going to understand what's going on and why the characters are doing what they're doing. Tell you what Patti and Holly, why don't you try reading the story from the beginning and work your way up, and THEN write a review.
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Those guys must be popular.
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A few reviewers seemed to have latched on to One Piece now thanks to the speed up when they previously ignored it. Then I come across stuff like these guys.
I can't even begin to express how reading BOTH of those reviews made me feel because if I did try to express it… it would be about half a short novels worth of new asshole ripping.
I can't believe people are so narrow minded... I just... HATE PEOPLE SO MUCH. Sure. It's their opinion. Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one. I just... don't think it's fair that OP gets reviews like THAT just because those guys have the attention span of a knat =_= UGH. I hate them.
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The second guy just can't write period.
THIS HAPPEND AND THEN THIS. AND THEN THERE WAS THIS. AND THIS CHARACTER WAS ALRIGHT. AND THE ART WAS THIS. AND I WRITE LIKE I HAVE DOWNS. AND BLAH BLAH.
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I was looking through their other reviews. Alot of facepalm.
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A few reviewers seemed to have latched on to One Piece now thanks to the speed up when they previously ignored it. Then I come across stuff like these guys.
thank you for posting this, I'm sorry I haven't laughed or facepalmed this much all day. I thought it was a honest opinion from someone who picked the series late as opposed me who as followed this for god knows how many years now:ninja:. One piece only really started making sense after I left the 4kids dub behind. This guy really needs to start from the start.
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thank you for posting this, I'm sorry I haven't laughed or facepalmed this much all day. I thought it was a honest opinion from someone who picked the series late as opposed me who as followed this for god knows how many years now:ninja:. One piece only really started making sense after I left the 4kids dub behind. This guy really needs to start from the start.
I guess it's all a matter of….perspective? Huh that was funny, deja vu? You get that. Well I sure did. Haha. How about that. Maybe I'm supposed to be doing something?
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@Tupac's:
I guess it's all a matter of….perspective? Huh that was funny, deja vu? You get that. Well I sure did. Haha. How about that. Maybe I'm supposed to be doing something?
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You have been calling those reviewers "This guy" or "That Guy" you realize their names are at the tops of the reviews, and they're women right?
And yeah, it's really stupid. That's like walking into a later Harry Potter Movie, an hour into the movie, without having seen any of the previous movies. OF COURSE you're gonna be confused…
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http://www.fictionalfrontiers.podcastpeople.com/posts/36844
This is an interview with one of the vizmedia one piece editors, was interesting to jump through the interview
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Got the most recent US Shonen Jump recently. Gonna mention a few things. If anyone has any questions or wants to see the pages in reference, I have them all scanned and ready for viewing.
! On the Funimation DVD promo page, they list his name as Zoro. I'm not sure if this was intentional or if Viz simply let it slip. I know that Funimation does use 'Zoro' but I'm not sure if it would be "allowed" to show up in Shonen Jump.
! Sniper King sticker is pretty cool.
! As mentioned before, renaming of chapter 537 to "A Ray of Hope".
! Hannyabal does not make reference to "that damn Okama" during the scene where he's tied up.
! "Queen Hell" is what Ivankov likes to call what the place would be if it were hell.
! "Emporio Estrogen" is the romanization of the ability used on the guy who tried to assassinate Ivankov.
! Shonen Jump Exclusive Censoring – Random top appears on the female version of the prisoner mentioned just before this.
! "Emporio Healing Synthesis" is the romanization of the ability used on Luffy, to cure him of poison.
! Emporio Ivankov ate the Horm-Horm Fruit. snicker
! Official Blackbeard Crew Name Romanizations:
! Catalina Devon (no mention of her reputation)
"Great Battleship" San Juan Wolf
Vasco Shot (no mention of nickname) --- I'm a little disappointed by this last one because I assumed that it would be Basco Shot, as it is sometimes the case that tabasco is added to alcoholic drinks, what with him being the "big drinker".
! Ivankov declares himself an officer in the Revolutionary Army.
! "Emporio Energy Synthesis" is the ability used that pumped Luffy full of adrenaline.
! The Impel Down monitor room guards called Ivankov, the "King of Queens" (and then later "Queen-King"), and identified Inazuma as "The Revolutionary of the South Blue".
! Viz is continuing to print character profiles from One Piece: BLUE. Will they release an English version...? Who knows. It was Sanji this month, by the way.
! Inazuma ate the Snip-Snip Fruit.
! There's that Crocodile-Ivankov "weakness conversation. From Ivankov's mouth: "We go way back. I knew him when he was just starting out. But it's okay. We don't have to trust him. If he tries anything funny, I'll fix him. Mmhmhm... I know his weakness!"
! Personal gripe: Crocodile's last line in the issue ("Shall we settle this right now?") is cut off because of poor printing. BAAAWWW
! Seems like all of Ivankov's "Hee-Haw"/"Hee-Hah"s have been changed to "Wa-hoo"!
! A bit new information for me but maybe some of you have already known. The Viz romanizations of the three types of Devil Fruits are: Logia, Zoan and Paramythia (I found this the odd bit).
! In the explanation for "Paramythia-Type", they talk about Luffy having powered-up his Devil Fruit capabilities with "his Gear Two and Gear Three attacks". Is this pretty much saying that Gear Second and Gear Third have been ditched for those mentioned or...? I hope not.
! Shigan has been changed to Finger Pistol.
! Ace's Juujika attack remains with the same name.
! "Warning! Never ever eat more than one Devil Fruit or your body will fatally fracture."
! Complete list of known Devil Fruit users thus far (mid-Impel Down): http://twitpic.com/14vl2y/fullHope that was helpful for anyone!
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Complete list of known Devil Fruit users thus far (mid-Impel Down): http://twitpic.com/14vl2y/full
Hope that was helpful for anyone!
There's some really weird fruit names in there.
Diggy Diggy fruit
Tweet Tweet fruit
Mutt Mutt fruitWhat's wrong with
Mole Mole
Bird Bird
Dog DogIt sounds a lot less stupid.
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God I hope they won't change so much things in the volume releases O_O"
To me, that's just another 4kids. LEAVE IT AS IT IS, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THE WORD CROSSDRESEER OR GAY, they can even just write okama with a note saying something like :Okama means crossdresser. or something. -
God I hope they won't change so much things in the volume releases O_O"
To me, that's just another 4kids. LEAVE IT AS IT IS, NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THE WORD CROSSDRESEER OR GAY, they can even just write okama with a note saying something like :Okama means crossdresser. or something.If they couldn't even have Eneru call himself God, you can bet your bacon that they won't leave okama alone.
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If they couldn't even have Eneru call himself God, you can bet your bacon that they won't leave okama alone.
WTF? They changed it? to what?
I hate it when they do it, why change it? Afraid of being sued or something? People that'll sue them are stupid.
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WTF? They changed it? to what?
I hate it when they do it, why change it? Afraid of being sued or something? People that'll sue them are stupid.
Nobody can do things freely, everything has to be censored X___XThey called him "Kami Eneru." Kami can mean god, so it technically works, but it's the general opinion that they referred to him as the Kami to pacify anybody who tries to claim that the manga is anti-religious for "characters fighting against God!!" I agree with you there; anybody who would sue a publishing company over a children's comic book needs to re-evaluate their mental standing.
In a world where sex and drug use is becoming more and more blatant, megalomaniacal villains are forced to use Japanese titles to protect themselves from soccer moms. The heck?
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Calling him "Kami" annoys me even more, since it's a japanese word they've kept, and they didn't keep other japanese words, such as the fruit's names and Okama and such.
Plus, I really hate him being called Eneru xP I know it's correct, and so are Ener and Enel, but I prefer Enel the best, sounds a lot better In my honest opinion.Sueing companies for things like that.. I don't understand how people's minds work at all. And it's not just a children's comic book, why censor the word 'God' at all? So it's religious. And..? Do people get offended when people use that word? Once again, I don't understand people, and I guess I'll never will.
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…they can even just write okama with a note saying something like :Okama means crossdresser. or something.
And you know what the really annoying part is? Whenever the "Okama"-kanji appear, they add a note saying that "It means "Oh Come My Way"." Nope. They don't just, y'know, ignore it like they do with most other kanji, they specifically go and tell a blatant lie whenever it appears. WHAT THE HELL VIZ? At least with "Kami" Eneru they occasionally aknowledged that he has a God-complex, here they're flat-out pretending that "Okama" means "Oh Come My Way", and feel obliged to rub this in constantly.
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Complete list of known Devil Fruit users thus far (mid-Impel Down): http://twitpic.com/14vl2y/full
Hope that was helpful for anyone!
One minor thing I noticed is that they didn't mention Lucci's Devil Fruit, despite bringing up Kaku's, Kalifa's, and Blueno's. It's obvious what it should be (Cat Cat Fruit, Model Leopard), but given some of the name choices (mainly the 4Kids ones, but there were some like the Rumble Rumble Fruit or the Chilly Chilly Fruit that could have been changed), I'm not sure if it will be the obvious one.
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Calling him "Kami" annoys me even more, since it's a japanese word they've kept, and they didn't keep other japanese words, such as the fruit's names and Okama and such.
What makes this even more irritating is that Oda actually used the word God (ゴッド) (Goddo) in the manga as well as Kami. So Viz can't even say they just left it untranslated.
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This is fucked up.
It's like 4kids, trying to aim One Piece for 4 year olds or I dunno, and people who get offended by everything.Vegard - God, they took the "Oh come my way" too far, they ruined it for me, at first it was just a song by Bon Clay an no more (As far as I remember.. It was like 5 years ago I watched Alabasta), now It's a term used to replace Okama.. ><" I just have nothing to say about translators anymore.
Megadoomer - Luffy isn't there either, and I think they'd call Lucci's fruit something like "Cat Cat Fruit Leopard Model" (I hate the way they write fruit names) Or even "felinae felinae fruit leopard model" or something like that. XD
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I'm sure Viz has their reasons, there's always a method to the madness. I can't believe you're comparing them to 4Kids, wake the fuck up.
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Well, they're not THAT bad, but still.
Why put a tank top on a naked girl that appears for like 1-2 panels? And even covers her breasts. I see no reason for this. All I can see is a kid going "OMG LOLOL I SAW BOOBIES!" -
Oh I agree with you completely on that one, but typically the volumes (at least lately) have been without that type of stuff. They usually only do that in the monthly Shonen Jump magazine releases.
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Ok, that was my original thought, but I started thinking they're doing this in the volumes too. I don't care that much for just little text changes, as long as it won't be like Vegard said. (Or was said based on an alabasta volume?)
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Well, they're not THAT bad, but still.
Why put a tank top on a naked girl that appears for like 1-2 panels? And even covers her breasts. I see no reason for this. All I can see is a kid going "OMG LOLOL I SAW BOOBIES!"You have to wonder if Viz have ever seen an western comicbook aimed at roughly the same demographic. I can pick up the latest issue of Batman or Green Lantern and see far more riske things than a bit of cleavage or a man with a God complex.
Comparing them to 4kids is overboard, but the question remains, why censor themselves? No one is going to complain and even if they did, they wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on.
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Well when we're talking about homegrown stuff like Green Lantern, you get a lot more leeway even when considering the attire the Star Sapphire wear (especially Carol). Plus, DC Comics is a huge company that knows that it's readers enjoy and isn't really worried about any "backlash". Viz is taking something from another country and trying to get people to read it, it's a whole lot harder than the former. I think for the most part Viz has handled their business dealings as a whole extremely well and while you may get some conflicting arguments from Viz Media themselves on occasion on the way things were translated or changed in a comic book; they are still putting out a pretty damn good quality product..
EDIT: Although I will tip my hat to that guys that translate and distribute Fairy Tail. Holy shit is that an awesome job their doing!
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Viz is taking something from another country and trying to get people to read it, it's a whole lot harder than the former.
You do make a good point, it is not an easy task, but I feel the introduction point is long past.
Anime and manga is already a huge hit in the west, people know what the score is and have voted with their cash.
One Piece also has a fairly sizable western audience.I still don't believe Viz is doing much to engraciate themselves with the established One Piece fanbase.
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I still don't believe Viz is doing much to engraciate themselves with the established One Piece fanbase.
Leftover 4kidisms such as 'zolo' and their various niggiling censors and edits hit all the harder when you see how good a job Funimation is doing with the anime.As cool as it is to finally get the manga here in the U.S. without importing it, FUNi's One Piece is the definitive English version.
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Just got the April issue! The Sniperking sticker is pretty awesome, and I think that whole page on Devil Fruit users is awesome as well.
There's some really weird fruit names in there.
Diggy Diggy fruit
Tweet Tweet fruit
Mutt Mutt fruitWhat's wrong with
Mole Mole
Bird Bird
Dog DogIt sounds a lot less stupid.
Actually I think the only one that sounds remotely stupid at all is "Diggy Diggy." But it's not even that bad…
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@Mikey:
Just got the April issue! The Sniperking sticker is pretty awesome, and I think that whole page on Devil Fruit users is awesome as well.
Actually I think the only one that sounds remotely stupid at all is "Diggy Diggy." But it's not even that bad…
Tweet Tweet fruit sounds really kiddy, doesn't fit Pell IMO. XP
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And "Bird Bird" doesn't sound kiddy?
Anyway, I noticed an ad for the Naruto CCG at the beginning of the magazine… why the fuck are Sasuke and Naruto dressed up like high school students? Why does it look like DA fanart? Why is this shit even LEGIT?
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A lot less than "Tweet Tweet".
I would prefer if they kept the japanese names, but that would be kinda stupid, so the direct translation is the second best option. -
One minor thing I noticed is that they didn't mention Lucci's Devil Fruit, despite bringing up Kaku's, Kalifa's, and Blueno's. It's obvious what it should be (Cat Cat Fruit, Model Leopard), but given some of the name choices (mainly the 4Kids ones, but there were some like the Rumble Rumble Fruit or the Chilly Chilly Fruit that could have been changed), I'm not sure if it will be the obvious one.
Probably should have uploaded the other page, as well.
@Mikey:
Anyway, I noticed an ad for the Naruto CCG at the beginning of the magazine… why the fuck are Sasuke and Naruto dressed up like high school students? Why does it look like DA fanart? Why is this shit even LEGIT?
Haha. This caught my eye as well and made me cringe. But alas, it's unrelated.
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They didn't translate Juujika? That's odd for them, leaving attacks untranslated like that.
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@Mikey:
And "Bird Bird" doesn't sound kiddy?
Anyway, I noticed an ad for the Naruto CCG at the beginning of the magazine… why the fuck are Sasuke and Naruto dressed up like high school students? Why does it look like DA fanart? Why is this shit even LEGIT?
But not all birds go "Tweet." Nor are all dogs "Mutts." (and I've yet to see a mole that I would refer to as a "Diggy." :P)
Lol, I haven't seen this add, but it makes me laugh at the fact that Viz will bring over the most negligible of Naruto things, but not the Data Books or Color Walks.
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But not all birds go "Tweet." Nor are all dogs "Mutts." (and I've yet to see a mole that I would refer to as a "Diggy." :P)
Well, I don't really think it matters as tweet and mutt are associated with birds and dogs.
Lol, I haven't seen this add, but it makes me laugh at the fact that Viz will bring over the most negligible of Naruto things, but not the Data Books or Color Walks.
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