Hey guys, how come we're all buying these dvd's with such horrible levels of censorship.
http://kotaku.com/5517664/one-piece-localization-or-censorship
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As much as I love and support Funimation's DVDs and dubs, I wouldn't buy DVDs that are not widescreen from Foxy arc to Water 7, and hell, I wouldn't even buy DVDs anymore from Water 7 onwards because I expect (and want) Bluray releases.
I'm grateful about Funimation's work on the series and I love my One Piece DVD collection… but... you know... acquiring them isn't free, and as a paying customer I expect the best product/format from them.
I actually bought both DVD and BD releases for movie 8 to show my support but I wouldn't do it for whole seasons of a very long anime, that would be too much money to spend just for the sake of fanboyism.
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Are those actual comparison shots from the Analog and Digital broadcasts, or did he cut them just to be funny?
He just cut them to be funny. If he cropped them correctly, Chopper would be lost in those shots while half of Nami would appear. Imagine FUNi Season Sets of Dragon Ball Z but instead of the cropping being from fullscreen to widescreen, its WS to FS expect you gain nothing 'extra' on the sides. It's a lose-lose situation.
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Have you met the anime community?
Scratch that, have you met the ONE PIECE anime community?
This is not a group of people that take cuts to material graciously. More over, North America in general is a wide screen society. I don't think they even make full screen versions of DVDs anymore.
So yeah, take a society that in general has shifted to wide screen in pretty much everything from TVs to computer monitors to phones.
Then take a subculture of that society that is more than a little sensitive about imported shows getting cut for any reason.Then tell those people that their next DVD release is going to crop off a third of the picture… yeah, you're going to lose sales.
You remember what happened when Funi tried that stunt with the DBZ sets. That was a smaller crop on a show that had been released once before. And that was for the sake of making it widescreen.
The fan lashback they got from that would be nothing compared to what would happen if their first run of One Piece was cropped to 4:3.
Yup, you got that right. They'll bitch 'till the end of days.
To save us that huge annoyance, I hope FUNi does use the widescreen versions.
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Oh, yeah. And also because it looks better, yeah.
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Well, FUNimation didn't have to give us the Dragon Boxes (those damned Orange Bricks sold like hotcakes), but they went that extra mile…and it paid off. Go that extra mile for maintaining each episodes correct aspect ratio and that too will pay off.
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Hey guys, how come we're all buying these dvd's with such horrible levels of censorship.
http://kotaku.com/5517664/one-piece-localization-or-censorship
My brother-in-law emailed this to me. He knew I was a One Piece fan and he was wondering if I knew something about this.
I'm letting him know what
the hookie pookieit's really about. -
Look at the last set of pictures. Only the right side is cut off, while in the other pictures both sides are cut off.
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@Badass:
Anyone who watches OP just to have it in HD widescreen obviously isn't a One Piece fan.
Someone isn't a true fan if they complain about losing half of the picture?
Sorry but you are going to have to run that one by me again. -
As much as I love and support Funimation's DVDs and dubs, I wouldn't buy DVDs that are not widescreen from Foxy arc to Water 7, and hell, I wouldn't even buy DVDs anymore from Water 7 onwards because I expect (and want) Bluray releases.
Then you might be waiting a LONG time for nothing.
In Japan, the show started airing in widescreen with episode 207, but wasn't broadcast in HD Until episode 261.
It's entirely possible those episodes were never even Produced in true HD, so any BD Release then would just be up-scaled.
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Dythim reckoned that they were broadcast in hd from 207, but no one encoded them that way.
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Yeah that always confused me. So they didn't actually animate in high definition until Enies Lobby? Even though they switched to widescreen.
There's no way of knowing whether or not the Masters were actually produced in HD or not, but I don't believe the actual broadcast aired in HD.
Japan pioneered Widescreen, and they transitioned people into it differently than we did here. They released Widscreen near SD-TVs called "EDTV". The TVs were still 480 Pixels, but were Progressive scan instead of Interlaced, and Widescreen (So you'd say they were "480p" instead of a normal SDs "480i".)
The Idea of this was to make the transition to Widescreen natural, so now in Japan, WS is Mandatory. (That's why they cropped Dragon Ball Kai for Widescreen on TV)Most anime on TV was produced in this "EDTV" Format at first, and that includes One Piece. I'm not sure what the state of Naruto and Bleach are NOW, but for a long time the "HD" rips you may have seen were upscaled, because the shows flat out weren't being produced in HD.
It's entirely possible, nay probable that One Piece wasn't even produced in HD Until 261 when true HD Episodes began to air.
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It's entirely possible, nay probable that One Piece wasn't even produced in HD Until 261 when true HD Episodes began to air.
But unless we have a time machine, there's no real way of knowing.Actually, while we can't speak about the actual episodes themselves, at least some of the content was produced in HD since episode 207. Opening 5 was shown in HD for episodes 261-263 and ending 17 for those as well. Toei wouldn't redraw those for 3 episodes remaining so that would suggest they had at least plans to do it since 207.
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Hey guys, how come we're all buying these dvd's with such horrible levels of censorship.
http://kotaku.com/5517664/one-piece-localization-or-censorship
It's nice to see how relevant and timely Kotaku was with this. (So on topic too! coughvideogameblogcough) The author really shouldn't get his news from a random Japanese blog posting that was just now noticing something from America.
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Hey guys, how come we're all buying these dvd's with such horrible levels of censorship.
http://kotaku.com/5517664/one-piece-localization-or-censorship
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NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.watchonepiecelegally.com
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
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@LUFFY#1:
NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=99818
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
You continue to be the man, nice find!
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It looks like they got tired of using characters doing poses and are going for scene re-creations now.
Very cool, though! It'll be weird to watch these episodes after not watching the dub version for two and a half years.
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The only problem is that I don't see Robin or Sanji…
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Maybe its not finished yet? It could be a work-in-progress cover.
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Someone isn't a true fan if they complain about losing half of the picture?
Sorry but you are going to have to run that one by me again.Other countries do not get widescreen eps. Do they lose half the picture?
@LUFFY#1:
NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=99818
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
Extreme Awesomeness.
Though, -5 for No Sanji or Robin.
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What is this sexy cover art on my One Piece releases? Those curs better not do it again!!
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Awesome cover! But too bad they kept the metal borders and didn't change them to clouds or vines.
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@LUFFY#1:
NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=99818
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
Thanks for the find; this is awesome!
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@Brad:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/BradRedfield/1250463522408.gif
Heh. The slowtaku images (especially the ones with the old-school "Press" hats) never get old.
@LUFFY#1:
NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=99818
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
I really rather like that.
@Badass:
Other countries do not get widescreen eps. Do they lose half the picture?
Yes. That's kinda the point. The Japanese lost a portion of the picture for quite a while as toei left their dvd releases in 4:3 for a while after the format of the show changed to 16:9.
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Yes. That's kinda the point. The Japanese lost a portion of the picture for quite a while as toei left their dvd releases in 4:3 for a while after the format of the show changed to 16:9.
Oh. That's not good.
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Now THAT's a nice cover!
@Zach:
The only problem is that I don't see Robin or Sanji…
I think I smell candles and hear soft music at the rear of the ship…
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@LUFFY#1:
NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.watchonepiecelegally.com
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
Holy Haki! That box art made me wet myself! O_O It looks completely different compared to the first 2 seasons.
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That's a pretty interesting stock they used. It's only missing a few chracters and the Southbird.
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@Mikey:
Awesome cover! But too bad they kept the metal borders and didn't change them to clouds or vines.
Well, it could be because most of this set takes place on Jaya. Once they've actually been up in the sky for a bit (second voyage), then we'll probably see a change in the border.
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@Mikey:
Awesome cover! But too bad they kept the metal borders and didn't change them to clouds or vines.
Yeah, I agree, but I think the border is slightly different from the Season 2 border. The Season 2 borders seemed kind of like a rusted metal, but this border looks pristine and shiny.
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I'm hoping it's a work in progress because I think a lot more can be done with it. I think the whole crew should at least be featured on it. I wish the borders were changed too, but it doesn't change anything. I'm still gonna love this set.
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I don't know what to think of the new season cover. It's a picture as opposed to renders stacked on a background.
I guess it could turn out good, but I'm not sure what to think of the picture on this one. Still, it's not a big deal. lol It's what's on the DVD that counts!
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I'm pretty sure that's a WIP shot of the box. The Side of the case doesn't blend with the old border at ALL, and it looks kinda tacky for that.
I think that Tree-like wooden texture on the side is the actual new border texture, and they just threw the Season 2 one on it for now so they could have something to release.
In fact, looking at it closer, the wooden texture on the side is surrounded by a slight white translucent border. Kinda like clouds. And notice they just did a slight gradient to it on the front. That makes me think even more that this is just a WIP.I too also hope that Robin and Sanji are there and either weren't included on this WIP, or aren't even drawn yet.
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In Japan, the show started airing in widescreen with episode 207, but wasn't broadcast in HD Until episode 261.
It's entirely possible those episodes were never even Produced in true HD, so any BD Release then would just be up-scaled.
Considering the preview for episode 206 (to my knowledge at least) was broadcast in fullscreen, it does make you scratch your head.
I won't complain if the early "widescreen" episodes are released fullscreen, but I honestly will be peeved if the later episodes are as well, although I'm 99% sure that won't happen. I will still buy them either way. I mean, I'm not gonna go buy the 50-dollar-a piece-2-episodes-per-set Japanese DVDs just to get them in widescreen. And I'm certainly not going to go the illegal route when there's a legal option out there.
@LUFFY#1:
NEW SEASON COVER: http://www.watchonepiecelegally.com
Looks very nice, the border looks all woddeny, very cool
Looks good overall, but I do agree that it could use some improvement. I like the full picture cover with a background and everything, I must say.
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That cover totally looks cool, to bad I'll have to buy the filler DVD before getting that set >_< xD.
Episode 207 supposedly aired in HD, but we all know the HD raws started from 261 so it's kind of a mistery still which was the first HD episode… anyway I'd still be bitching if we get 4:3 DVDs from Foxy arc onwards :/.
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To be honest, no one would blame you if you didn't buy the filler set. :P I still can't believe they made a whole arc about goats. >.>
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To be honest, no one would blame you if you didn't buy the filler set. :P I still can't believe they made a whole arc about goats. >.>
They're the Official Pwngoat Fanclub Founders. They had to be worked into the series somehow.
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I really like the Season 3, First Voyage. The clear plywood design look very nice for the Skypiea arc.
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I think I smell candles and hear soft music at the rear of the ship…
Ha ha
It really is a nice cover though (I wish I wasn't so behind on Season 2)
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Episode 207 supposedly aired in HD, but we all know the HD raws started from 261 so it's kind of a mystery still which was the first HD episode… anyway I'd still be bitching if we get 4:3 DVDs from Foxy arc onwards :/.
Those episodes haven't even been released on Blu-ray in Japan, not even 261+ has, and we KNOW the series went HD at that point at least.
I know we got Movie 8 on Blu before Japan, but it's not really fair to demand we get something that not even Japan has gotten yet.
Now, as for Widescreen… I just REALLY hope that the Simulcast being WS is a good indicator that 16:9 is the aspect ratio that Toei will give FUNimation, though I think the only episodes we have to worry about being Fullscreen are the Davy Back Fight arc only, since those episodes were inexplicably in 4:3 Fullscreen on Japanese DVD. Though, this might have had something to do with the fact that they lumped G8 into the same "Season" as Foxy, so Toei wanted that whole "Season" in FS before switching to wide in Water 7... but I don't work at Toei, so I have no clue as to why.
Curious, I wonder what the Japanese fanbase's reaction was to that. Were there any major complaints to the Davy Back Fight being fullscreen or not?
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Well, I, for one, would like to have all the episodes that were aired in WS to be kept in WS when put on the DVDs. I know some members here don't like it that much, but I really like the Davy Back Fight arc and would be bummed if it wasn't released in WS right off the bat. Though, it's Funimation, so you never know if they'll be given the 4:3 masters…then Toei, after a few years, will finally give Funi the 16:9 masters and re-release the DBF arc and whatever other eps of an arc that were previously released on 4:3 in a new set...only in WS. XD
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Those episodes haven't even been released on Blu-ray in Japan, not even 261+ has, and we KNOW the series went HD at that point at least.
I know we got Movie 8 on Blu before Japan, but it's not really fair to demand we get something that not even Japan has gotten yet.
Well… screw Japan XD. Why am I not allowed to want it and demand/expect it when I'll be paying for it? As you said, we got movie 8 in BD way before them, which was awesome. If they can pull it off again, it would be perfect.
I don't think Toei will ever release BD releases of the series in Japan, at least not episodes that have been already released on DVD, to me it seems they take their audience for granted and expect them to buy whatever they release (they had FS and WS releases of the same episodes as far as I know). And well... Bluray wasn't really popular back when those episodes aired.
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Well… screw Japan XD. Why am I not allowed to want it and demand/expect it when I'll be paying for it? As you said, we got movie 8 in BD way before them, which was awesome. If they can pull it off again, it would be perfect.
Because in the end, it's Toei's series, and FUNimation can only work with what Toei gives them.
Toei doesn't like reverse-importing of things. FUNi was able to get an HD Transfer of Movie 8 because its a film and they showed it in theaters at one point, but there's a chance that Toei will only give FUNi the SD masters for those episodes so the Japanese people won't be like "Oh look! HD One Piece released in America! And Cheaper than our SD-DVDs! Since they have Japanese on them, and we're the Same region as America, lets import those!"I don't think Toei will ever release BD releases of the series in Japan, at least not episodes that have been already released on DVD…
Well, they're releasing Dragon Ball Kai on BD, and a little while ago, they remastered Hokuto no Ken (Fist of the North Star) in HD and released that on BD, so I'd say there's a good chance.
…to me it seems they take their audience for granted and expect them to buy whatever they release (they had FS and WS releases of the same episodes as far as I know). And well… Bluray wasn't really popular back when those episodes aired.
Wait, What?
One Piece's Japanese DVD releases are only ever released in one aspect ratio at a time.
Episodes 1-206 were released in Native 4:3 Fullscreen
Episodes 207-229 were released in 4:3 FS, Cropped and Pan & Scanned from the 16:9 Broadcast version
Episodes 230-Present are being released in Native 16:9 WS on Standard Def DVD.There has never been a dual-release where a certain block of episodes was available in both FS and WS format.
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Actually it was 207 - 228 that was release fullscreen on dvd. Since 229 is on the first Water 7 arc dvd that have the widescreen episodes.
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Wait, What?
One Piece's Japanese DVD releases are only ever released in one aspect ratio at a time.
Episodes 1-206 were released in Native 4:3 Fullscreen
Episodes 207-229 were released in 4:3 FS, Cropped and Pan & Scanned from the 16:9 Broadcast version
Episodes 230-Present are being released in Native 16:9 WS on Standard Def DVD.Uh, I don't think so. A while back, someone in the Yibis-channel came across a DVD-ISO that was supposedly for Movie 10. After downloading it, it turned out that, no, it was just one of the TV-series DVDs from the Thriller Bark saga. It was in 4:3. So yes, it would appear that they are releasing them in both formats… Even though there is absolutely no reason why these stupid cropped DVDs should even exist.
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@Vegard:
Uh, I don't think so. A while back, someone in the Yibis-channel came across a DVD-ISO that was supposedly for Movie 10. After downloading it, it turned out that, no, it was just one of the TV-series DVDs from the Thriller Bark saga. It was in 4:3. So yes, it would appear that they are releasing them in both formats… Even though there is absolutely no reason why these stupid cropped DVDs should even exist.
I can't find ANY information on a fullscreen release…
CD Japan has nothing, nor does Amazon.co.jp
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To be honest, no one would blame you if you didn't buy the filler set. :P I still can't believe they made a whole arc about goats. >.>
Yeah, this is one set I won't be buying. Funimation gets plenty of money from me, because as soon as animes are available in english I delete them off my computer and buy the DVD sets (I don't have many Soul Eater episodes left because of that). So my logic is: If I wouldn't download it and keep it one my computer (FOR FREE!), why would I pay money for it? I've supported their releases for years, I'm allowed to take a break from this one :P
Shoot, I bought every episode of DBZ on vhs back in the day. They made a killing off me on that one :P
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Anyone happen to see the 4:3 masters? Were they just compressed or were bits of the sides cut off?
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I think I may still have the ones from when k-f were dual releasing with ws. I'll take a look when I get home if no one else has by then.
