Unfortunatly, I'm a virgin. I'm not cool enough to get laid :P
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eh i think its just you pepsi^^
the age when your legaly allowed to have sex in sweden is 15 which is pretty young thought there has been talk about lowering the age :blink:
BTW you were kinda hot a little over hyped but still :P
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Damn. :/ Well, it IS me we are talking about. My head isn't what it used to be. Damn alcohol. -_-;;
Over hyped ? Which means ?
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Originally posted by Solar Knight@May 9 2005, 11:49 AM
15 eh? Even though people still do it in America, the legal minimum age is 18.
[snapback]45469[/snapback]INCORRECT
18 is when you are a legal adult and can be prosecuted for having sex with minors under a state's age of consent age. For most states that age is 16.
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Originally posted by Pepsi@May 8 2005, 04:00 AM
**-drumrolls-I'm a virgin.
-silence-
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I don't care if I lose it or not before I die. I'm more into selfsatisfaction, anyway. And being a virgin doesn't mean you are a saint or something. You can have done a lot of things, just not the real sex.
In my opinion, losing your virginity is overrated. Many people see it as such a big deal. Other want it to be special. I don't give a damn if I keep it or lose it. Although, I do want it to be kinda special if/when it happens.No offence to anyone.
[snapback]44533[/snapback]**My thoughts (and answer) are exactly the same as Pepsi
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Feels good to not be alone.
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that would be funny if somebody came and said i lost it to my hand
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Good question! :)
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Originally posted by Carly+May 9 2005, 05:09 PM–>QUOTE(Carly @ May 9 2005, 05:09 PM)
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if you are five ures within the age limit ucan fool around like feelin and kissin but thats about it if u r under age
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**-drumrolls-
I'm a virgin.
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I don't care if I lose it or not before I die. I'm more into selfsatisfaction, anyway. And being a virgin doesn't mean you are a saint or something. You can have done a lot of things, just not the real sex.
In my opinion, losing your virginity is overrated. Many people see it as such a big deal. Other want it to be special. I don't give a damn if I keep it or lose it. Although, I do want it to be kinda special if/when it happens.No offence to anyone.**
None taken. :lol:
That's not exactly what i meant. What i was trying to get across was, that, you should wait till you're 18 or something, i don't see the need to rush things, and 14 is way too young. :P
Heck, they're lots of other things to do at that point in your life. :lol:
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I think if you don't want to wait, you shouldn't. Age shouldn't really matter.
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I'm not a virgin. I lost my virginity a couple days after my 19th birthday.
It's a long, crazy, dramatic story as to how it happened. I'll spare you guys the details, not because they're graphic or anything but more because it's like some kind of crazy relationship driven manga plot. ^_^* All I will say is watching Rent for the (then) 7th time probably made the difference between doing it and not doing it. For some reason the whole "No Day But Today" thing really sunk in. And I'm glad it did, because it led to the start of a beautiful relationship.
But really folks. Take it from someone who thought she had Eternal Virgin Syndrome for the longest time. Sex isn't the big deal it's made out to be. Of course, doing it IS a big deal as far as taking the proper precautions go, and I encourage you all to learn about these things now, just for your own information. But that aside, sex is a lot like a cake mix. It could be really good or really bad depending on what ingredients you use, and how you mix em together. And more often than not, in the beginning, your cake could come out pretty crappy. Even after the beginning, not every time is going to be perfect.
If you're a virgin, don't sweat it. There's a lot of other fun things out there. You don't need another person to feel good. (And yes, I am saying that in a multilayered way. Take it as you will.)
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I'd wait until you're married (speaking from a guy's perspective). Saves a lot of grief, regret, fear and best of all, preserves a helluva lotta passion.
Whatever you do, if you're a guy, don't be an asshole and take a lady's virginity unless you're married. Go ahead and have fun but for God sakes don't go that far. If you don't you could both end up regretting an awful lot. I'm not speaking from experience with respect to actually doing that, but I've discussed it many a time with a lot of female friends of mine.
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**I'd wait until you're married (speaking from a guy's perspective). Saves a lot of grief, regret, fear and best of all, preserves a helluva lotta passion.
Whatever you do, if you're a guy, don't be an asshole and take a lady's virginity unless you're married. Go ahead and have fun but for God sakes don't go that far. If you don't you could both end up regretting an awful lot. I'm not speaking from experience with respect to actually doing that, but I've discussed it many a time with a lot of female friends of mine.**
Amen to that, Omae.
PS: Virgin here, obviously. :P
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@May 10 2005, 12:58 PM
**I'd wait until you're married (speaking from a guy's perspective). Saves a lot of grief, regret, fear and best of all, preserves a helluva lotta passion.Whatever you do, if you're a guy, don't be an asshole and take a lady's virginity unless you're married.
[snapback]45805[/snapback]**yikes…
those are some strict guidelines there, omae-kun. :lol:
and man, did this thread grow or what?
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@May 10 2005, 12:58 AM
Whatever you do, if you're a guy, don't be an asshole and take a lady's virginity unless you're married. Go ahead and have fun but for God sakes don't go that far. If you don't you could both end up regretting an awful lot. I'm not speaking from experience with respect to actually doing that, but I've discussed it many a time with a lot of female friends of mine.
[snapback]45805[/snapback]I respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think marriage itself is important, so much as a person's own personal level of what they feel comfortable with. For some people (men and women alike), that may include marriage, but for others, marriage isn't an issue. Not all ladies feel they need to go through the huge ordeal that is marriage in order to enjoy a pleasurable bodily function.
It CAN save people the grief of "OMG why'd I do that with that asswipe!" but I also think being smart about your partner, and knowing yourself, can also save you that. In other words, it's possible to lose your virginity before marriage, and be perfectly happy and contented with the choice. I think the problem comes in when people are so eagar to lose it, that they'll settle for anyone - and that's where the mistakes are made.
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But they're good guidelines, hon… :lol:
(More of the principle of the guidelines rather than waiting for marriage, I mean)
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Originally posted by Carly@May 10 2005, 01:10 AM
**But they're good guidelines, hon… :lol:(More of the principle of the guidelines rather than waiting for marriage, I mean)
[snapback]45813[/snapback]**There's a biiiig difference between waiting for marriage, and waiting for the right person. Atleast, for me there is. For others, there may not.
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It CAN save people the grief of "OMG why'd I do that with that asswipe!" but I also think being smart about your partner, and knowing yourself, can also save you that.
Which is exactly why I said it and even added "could". I'm certainly not saying it will in every case, but everyone I've talked to in JP, while they don't 'regret' doing what they did before marriage, certainly aren't happy with it and they ended up taking sex even to their married partner less than seriously….seeing as how one even tried to seduce me while her husband and kids slept upstairs :blink:
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Well, yeah, that's what I was shooting at. It's the principle of waiting for the right person I was going for, not the marriage part.
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Originally posted by omae no kaasan v.2@May 10 2005, 01:15 AM
Which is exactly why I said it and even added "could". I'm certainly not saying it will in every case, but everyone I've talked to in JP, while they don't 'regret' doing what they did before marriage, certainly aren't happy with it and they ended up taking sex even to their married partner less than seriously….seeing as how one even tried to seduce me while her husband and kids slept upstairs :blink:
[snapback]45816[/snapback]o.O Now that is just a whole other field of messed up.
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yep, you nailed it Carly. my problem with the said guidelines is the fact that there are people who don't want to get married. and i can certainly understand that choice. does it mean they have to be deprived of sex, even if they are emotionally ready for it? i certainly hope not.
is it obvious what my answer to this poll is? :lol:
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Hey, happened a buncha times to tell the truth. That's why I'm saying, sometimes it's best (from a guy to a guy) to have fun but don't friggin' do that to someone you know is a virgin unless you've tied the knot. I've been "super serious" a bunch of times but they all crash landed.
And on the other side, to balance things out, one young lady, 34, is a devout Japanese Christian from Kobe who saved herself for marriage to a African Canadian Pro Ball Player. That marriage crash landed and even though she's still Christian and a wonderful woman, she's not saving herself until she ties the knot again.
The gate swings both ways. But it helps to do every bit you can to help.
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I didn't lose my virginity until I was 23. I don't regret waiting as long as I did, nor do I regret losing it to someone who was ultimately a horrible person. I lost it when I was certain it was what I wanted and I felt emotionally stable enough to handle it. I do regret, however, that I did not lose it to a man who knew what he was doing, because I obviously had no idea what I was doing and was therefore in the dark on a lot of important things. I spent the next few years feeling like there was something wrong with me until I learned through online articles that it was just that the guy I was with wasn't very good and liked placing blame on other people for his own shortcomings.
And like Ginny said, sex isn't the huge deal people make it out to be. It's not something to just throw away or toss around like it's nothing because it's not that either. It's important but not as important as a lot of people think. It's fun, it's really nice with someone you care about, but I think people place too much importance on it in general. Don't rush into it or you'll just regret it later.
–Bevin
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Wow, omae no kaasan v.2, didn't know you had so much respect for women. :lol:
Good for you SuNa, please stay that way. :lol:
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It CAN save people the grief of "OMG why'd I do that with that asswipe!" but I also think being smart about your partner, and knowing yourself, can also save you that. In other words, it's possible to lose your virginity before marriage, and be perfectly happy and contented with the choice. I think the problem comes in when people are so eagar to lose it, that they'll settle for anyone - and that's where the mistakes are made.
The real question here is, is marriage really necessary, what difference does it make when you are living with someone and your married to someone, the only difference to me is having legal documents proving your love.
I don't really see marriage as a big thing, and as i said earlier, marriage is usually a last resort for couples who feel or know that their relationship is not what it used to be or has lost that spark, and faced with this grim reality, rush into something they they are not sure of.
Besides, look at marriage arrangements these days, it's common for couples to opt for pre-nuptials and other forms of agreement, the trust is destroyed here, and even for those who don't do the above-mention, a marriage can be rather stressful for both, even if there is not much change in their daily lifes.
And like Ginny said, sex isn't the huge deal people make it out to be. It's not something to just throw away or toss around like it's nothing because it's not that either. It's important but not as important as a lot of people think. It's fun, it's really nice with someone you care about, but I think people place too much importance on it in general. Don't rush into it or you'll just regret it later.
I don't place restrictions on myself, i'am a virgin, but i certainly wouldn't mind losing it if the right person comes along.
I have see nothing wrong in sex before marriage. As long as your partner is not compel by you into the act, and you are willing to accept any responsibilities that arise from these actions.
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Hey, some of you peeps are too lucky…MAN!! I wish I was yous guys...
But waiting till marriage is the right thing to do...It's what you call...CHRISTIANITY!!
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I don't think religious beliefs has anything to do with it.
Sex to me is purely a personal issue, but some people use religion to support their belief that sex before marriage is bad.
btw, I'am a free-thinker, i don't subscribe to religion.
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Originally posted by PortgasDeAycee@May 10 2005, 12:33 AM
But waiting till marriage is the right thing to do…It's what you call...CHRISTIANITY!!
Having s without marriage is believed to be called a sin..
[snapback]45867[/snapback]**Well not everyone here is Christian, so this argument's a little flawed. And also, I think since the advent of birth control the game's changed a little. Pregnancy and disease risks have gone down (not vanished, obviously) and a lot of people, Christians included, have relaxed in their views of pre-marital sex. It's not advocated by the church, obviously, but it's not the scandal it was decades ago.
If people want to wait for marriage, I say fine, go for it (just don't get married so you can have sex; a friend of mine did that and the guy she married is a slime). If you want to have sex before marriage, I don't have a problem with it as long as you're smart about it and use protection. If the person you're having sex with has had sex before with someone other than you, insist on getting screened for diseases first. Use birth control, always; urban myths about "pulling out", leaving your underwear on, having sex underwater, and anything else you can list that falls into that category, don't work. And remember that no birth control is 100% effective, either, mistakes happen. Basically, if you don't feel like you're prepared to handle the consequences of sex, you probably shouldn't be having it. But hey, that's my opinion.
–Bevin
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Yeah, I suppose youre right…But I'm just preaching the truth and right...
But the truth is............I disobey what I preach...WHAHAHAHA
I really wanna do it...And by the way...Seta Ginny 's story about how she lost her virginity rocks!!! -
Originally posted by PortgasDeAycee@May 10 2005, 02:33 AM
Hey, some of you peeps are too lucky…MAN!! I wish I was yous guys...
But waiting till marriage is the right thing to do...It's what you call...CHRISTIANITY!!
Having s without marriage is believed to be called a sin..
[snapback]45867[/snapback]**Oi vey man, get out of the well and open your eyes.
I never intend to get married, something about settling down with a person just dosen't appeal to me.
As for sex, as far as anything SERIOUS goes I'll wait until college. But if things in the ..foreplay catergory come up before then, then I might go for it.
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To be truly honest, I was raised Christian and while I believe the morals presented in the Bible are excellent and I do believe that humans are not the highest form of life in the universe (HAH! Wouldn't that be a joke!) I do not believe that all that stuff happened anymore than I do from any other religious text.
And while my advice would be for men not to take the virginity of someone they know to be a virgin, I do honestly believe that abstinence before marriage is the best policy. I see a lot of people saying sex isn't special, and I think that's up to each inidvidual to decide. However, if you work at it and wait then you can make it something special. If you've lost it then of course there's no way you can see it as such, but for people who wait to get married, I don't think there is any way you can say it isn't special for them or that they don't have a right to believe that.
I think one of the greatest pieces of evidence that sex in humans is meant to be special is the existence of STDs passed from partner to partner (mother to child is another bag of potatoes).
I'm not brandishing a Bible but I personally believe that sex is something special and I know I wouldn't want my kid to make the same mistakes I have.
Besides, if it isn't something special, then anyone should be perfectly content just masturbating.
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Yeah…a lot of what makes sex the most special and enjoyable is the fact that you're at the most vulnerable and intimate position you can ever be in with the person you love and really feel you have become one with. Any other situation, it's just mutual masturbation. :P A lot of people find that the real thing in the wrong situation turns out much less satisfying than the fantasy.
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The real question here is, is marriage really necessary, what difference does it make when you are living with someone and your married to someone, the only difference to me is having legal documents proving your love.
That's how I see it. To me, it's not marriage that matters, but love. That's the only reason I regret what I did.
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My parents never married though, just living together with me of course.
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The thing is about having legal documents, is that if you really do love someone and want to commit, what's stopping you from the final step? To me, if you don't want to seal the deal with marriage, you're bascially saying "well, I just might want to bail eventually."
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I think getting married is a good idea, but not just waiting for it for sex. It's almost as easy to bail outta that as it is a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, it seems.
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My views is that marriage isn't everything. Love is (sound a bit corny), I think marriage is just a way to show it.
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Divorces are never easy. Ask any divorcee. It's hell. I just wish people actually took marriage seriously these days. You know, like it says, "till death do us part". I mean, there are times when there's a really bad situation, like the spouse commits adultry, or is abusive, or something like that, but these days way too many people just give up on their marriage because they're too lazy or prideful to work out the problems that they're having during times of difficulty when the passion of the earlier days isn't there anymore. Someone once gave an illustration that a marriage starts out an empty box, it consists of everything you put into it.
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My mom wants to go back to portugal when I'm around 16 or so years old. I think the first time I heard it made me nearly cry but I got round to it :D plus I respected her choice.
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Yeah, a lot of people don't take marriage seriously. Rushing into marriage is a big problem, and if your spouse was your first, it could probably even add to the trouble. There are people that hold onto it for dear life when they really don't need to.
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I'm virgin for my private school has the worst looking girls and I can't get out of it.It's Hell.
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Originally posted by kangjin87@May 10 2005, 01:32 PM
I'm virgin for my private school has the worst looking girls and I can't get out of it.It's Hell.
I would not try with any of them.
[snapback]46321[/snapback]i bet that's exactly what the girls at your school are saying about the guys…
ooshi78
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Yeah,I´m virgin.I have 17,but it´s ok,I have other interesting things to do…ahn,by the way...I never had success with my crushes...i´m very romantic and shy.Oh,whatever,there´s a lot of time to do it,with a good guy.
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eh solid i think hes going to a schol that you live at :unsure:
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I think getting married is a good idea, but not just waiting for it for sex. It's almost as easy to bail outta that as it is a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, it seems.
I'am not against marriages, i mean, my parents are married and i wouldn't have it any other way.
But times have changed, it's a norm for couples to live together for sometime beofre they do eventually tie the knot.
And as Buccaneer as said, it isn't about running away from the relationship, my question was whether marriage was necessary in the first place.
If the guy or gal was about to bail, why marry, why make a commitment they can't keep.
My mom wants to go back to portugal when I'm around 16 or so years old. I think the first time I heard it made me nearly cry but I got round to it plus I respected her choice.
A divorve or a break-up can be a nightmare, especially if children are involve.
It's common for parents to fight, but sometimes these fights go overboard.
Parents may think it's common for married couples to fight things out, but it's always the children who indirectly feel the hurt and pain as a result of this action.
But i totally agree with Cosmic, if you still decide to get married, i wish couples who at least try to mend the indifferences and at least talk things out. I mean, unless the relationship turn abusive or something close, they must be willing to say that they have done everything in their power to save this marriage.
Divorce has become such a norm that even talking things out has become a unnecessary task for them.
Sanji, be strong, I'am sure that your parents love you, and eventhough certain events may have hurt you, they must have though it out before telling you of their decision.
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Well isn't this quite the nosey topic :D
I for one am not a virgin, but I can't say I'm the biggest fan of sex out there. I find it to be rather messy, usually anti-climactic, and the worst is that sex smell, I really hate that. For me the best sex is preceeded and followed by a nice hot shower and a good soapy scrubing. Actually I probably enjoy the shower part the most, especially if my partner cares to join me :P
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Originally posted by Buccaneer@May 10 2005, 08:20 PM
Yeah, a lot of people don't take marriage seriously. Rushing into marriage is a big problem, and if your spouse was your first, it could probably even add to the trouble. There are people that hold onto it for dear life when they really don't need to.
[snapback]46307[/snapback]I know this can't be the best place to say this, but.. man, Josuke is so awesome. And JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is incredible, too!
Anyhow, getting to the discussion at hand. No, I'm not. However! - I don't entirely feel proud of that fact, in a strange way.
I wish I'd met someone totally perfect, and it was all romantic and amazing, but most times I've had sex.. well, I never found it totally romantic. More impulsive, crazed and spur of the moment type stuff. Afterwards, I either felt like a jerk, or just felt dirty. Kind of like, I was just some whore who was there to lay girls, and not get any actual love or respect for it.
It's a horrible feeling, to feel spoiled like that. I wish I was still "Pure", but what does being pure mean? Not having impure thoughts? - I guess I'm constantly guilty of those!
Rushing into Marriage is a big problem, I don't intend to get married anytime soon, but I'm so jealous of these people who have a perfect marriage. Hell, the divorce rate is so high these days, well.. you begin to question if true love is an impossible thing to stake claim to.
I kind of resent this Topic, but I'm glad someone brought it up, got it out of the way and whatever else. I just feel like some people are too shy to admit being a virgin, and that somehow being a virgin makes them inferior.
Can I tell all the virgins here, I envy you. What I wouldn't give to turn back time and find the right person, the one person I could truly love, rather than have simple little tawdry affairs with on and off.
Well, that's simply my opinion. Anyone else have anything to add?
If you spoiler me, I will eat you with tater tots.
