Doflamingo is a manipulative, pink-clad demigod.
But Kuma's got a bear-ear hat.
DAMN IT WHICH ONE
Doflamingo is a manipulative, pink-clad demigod.
But Kuma's got a bear-ear hat.
DAMN IT WHICH ONE
Let's see:
-a crime lord that can become sand
-an extremely powerful (often bored) swordsman
-a pink, psychotic puppet master
-a big, mysterious Bible toter (that makes me wonder…)
-another guy (Merman?) that we know absolutely nothing about
Hmm...
I pick one they have mention yet (jk).
Okay, to start things off, please, DO NOT talk about Yonkou or anything off-topic, thats how the last thread just got locked. Okay, keep on subject. There will be no poll this time because people got all pissed off at it for some reason. Finally, don't leak spoilers here!
Alrighty, I'll edit this later, but lately we've gotten even MORE info on Gecko Moria, and Jimbei is next on the line, so here, just talk about the Shichibukai. I am going to add a bio with all the info that we know so far on the Shichibukai later. Feel free to guess who could be the next Shichibukai, and there relations to the government.
I think the last unknown shichibukai after we see jinbei at fishman underwater island will be also not a women….i can`t imagen one as to be the last unknown shichibukai
Same here, I've always thought that Luffy would look sort of wierd going all out on a woman. I'm not sexist or anything, but it would be wierd.
Anyway, for final Shichibukai, what if he was insane, and had like the image-image fruit, where he could make the SH hallucinate.
I have a feeling Dadan might have something to do with the Shichibukai.
I have a feeling..
It's going to be Luffy's Grandma and she's like going to Kick Luffy's ass, taking away every one of his Nakama for being such an impunent brat….
But seriously, besides a crazy old woman, I doubt there's going to be any stronger woman than Califa in the Manga. Robin, Hina and Alvida are strong, but it's just because of their devil fruits that such things as strength doesn't affec them at all.
Luffy's grandma would be great, actually. I've being thinking about his mother, but I believe she is with Dragon.
But the last Shichibukai (I hadn't realized there's only one missing… well, two since we don't know much about Jimbei) could be a man and Jimbei be a fish-woman... why not? XP Maybe Jimbei is just a title to Kokoro... ok, NO!
My toughts on how the last unknown schibukai will be.
-Crazy scientist
-All his actions is calculated exact on forehand
-He never does something that can compromise his vision of the physics.
-A human, male
More or like i think i is a scientist with to much passion for science. just a tought
Peace
Expanding on Moria's idea of a nutcase for the last Shichibukai…
Wouldn't it be cool if he had to be kept in a lockdown high security place, where he was only used if there was a real threat (Yonkou, 300 million berry+ pirate). Then when he's taken out, he looks similar to Jack Bauer in the latest season of 24, where he's taken out of jail with a beard and long hair, and the shichibukai has foam around his mouth etc. In other words just really creepy and insane, then when the SH fight him, he finds their worst nightmare and brings it to life for them, although its not real, they think it is.
That would bring a great arc and fights, I don't think he should have followers, he should just make all the SH see horrible things. Ex. Kuina dying for Zoro, Luffy not becoming Pirate King or his crew dying, Nami seeing Bellemere's death over and over.
I don't think that we're going to see Jinbei at Gyojin Island.
I think the last shickibukai is a woman.
Thriller Bark kind of killed this, but i had this idea back durring the Enies Lobby arc that the Straw Hats would face the Schickibukai 1on1.
To make up for the idfference in numbers, Ussop would team up with chopper or Nami and Luffy would fight Sengoku instead.
Zoro Vs. Hawkeye
Franky or Chopper vs. Bartholomew Kuma
Nami Vs. Jinbei?
there were 2 unkowns at that point though.
In addition to the unfilled post left by crocodile.
Which i never wanted, and still don't want, Blackbeard to fill.
Donquioxte Vs….......Brook?
I think that the one who is going to figt Doflamingo is Luffy himself, this assumption is based on that Luffy totally humiliated Doflango's crew members by one hitting Bellamy. But of course things can change, but i think Luffy's bounty will rise above Doflamingo's when they meet, then again someone else fight him, maybe Brook maybe someone else.
Peace
@Aakern:
I think that the one who is going to figt Doflamingo is Luffy himself, this assumption is based on that Luffy totally humiliated Doflango's crew members by one hitting Bellamy. But of course things can change, but i think Luffy's bounty will rise above Doflamingo's when they meet, then again someone else fight him, maybe Brook maybe someone else.
Peace
It would be shocking if LuffyvsDoflamingo turned into Luffy killing someone, perhaps Usopp, Robin or Chopper. Anyways, the fact of Doflamingo obliguing Luffy to hurt his Nakama would be by far the strongest scene in the Manga, or..
Luffy could go Baka and Octopus, making him useless for Don..:getlost:
Same here, I've always thought that Luffy would look sort of wierd going all out on a woman. I'm not sexist or anything, but it would be wierd.
Anyway, for final Shichibukai, what if he was insane, and had like the image-image fruit, where he could make the SH hallucinate.
Dude, have you not read like, chapter TWO of the manga?
its a lion: that's not a woman thats a barrel of lard… =P (j/k)
How come Luffy has to fight all of the Schikibukai all of the sudden?
Or, how come if a Schikibukai comes up, Luffy has to fight them?
Except for Hawkeye of course.
I don't think Luffy will fight all of the Shichibukai.
I don't think there's gonna be a crew VS. Shichibukai fight either. I think Luffy will fight most of them and Zoro will fight Mihawk and the rest will just do different things, maybe turn on the government.
I don't think Luffy will fight all of the Shichibukai.
I don't think there's gonna be a crew VS. Shichibukai fight either. I think Luffy will fight most of them and Zoro will fight Mihawk and the rest will just do different things, maybe turn on the government.
See that's my problem, why does Luffy have to fight most of them even?
Why can't the others fight some of them.
Like Sanji, or Brook, or Franky.
Maybe Franky's dad is one of them and he'll fight that one.
As much as I despise Naruto, I'm going to draw a comparison between Akatsuki and the Shichibukai:
Some of Akatsuki's members never even came into contact with Naruto, right? They were defeated by other characters.
So some of the Seven Armed Seas may not challenge Luffy at all. Jinbei might be like, whatEVAR!
…But so far Oda seems intent on bringing them into direct conflict with the Straw Hats' quest/ideals (i.e., Moria and Doflamingo). Barty the Bear refers to Luffy as a "target" (in the manga, anyway), and Hawkeye obviously has a connection to Zoro. The candidate for Croc's seat, Blackbeard, has stated twice his intentions against Luffy. Plus he killed Ace. So unless Moria gets replaced and his replacement wants nothing to do with the Mugiwara, the Shichibukai might all be opponents at one point or another.
(Honestly, Moria may remain a Shichibukai, even if Luffy beats him; unless he goes against the government, there's no reason for him to lose his status, unless the World Government offers Moria's seat to Luffy)
@Kitsune::
See that's my problem, why does Luffy have to fight most of them even?
Why can't the others fight some of them.
Like Sanji, or Brook, or Franky.
Maybe Franky's dad is one of them and he'll fight that one.
It'd be nice if Luffy didn't have to fight all of them, BUT, the reason I'm kind of assuming that this is so is because they are all supposed to be crazy strong. Luffy always fights the leader-types and all the Shichibukai have been leader-types thus far.
But yeah, it would be totally awesome if the crew got some Shichibukai fights too. I don't see it happening but with someone as creative as Oda, anything is possible!
So far it looks like Zoro's the only one, but Sanji or someone else could be a possibility.
Like I said…...Franky's dad......
Heh, yeah, there were some people saying earlier that maybe one of the Yonkou was Franky's father…
I know, but suddenly, a Shickibukai seems more likely.
Why so suddenly?
I honestly think the reason Kuma was given a bounty less than Luffy's before they met was so one of the Straw Hats could duke with him.
Simply because of the fact that i just thought of the idea.
Like, a dramatic struggle between the Father and the son who feels betrayed.
On several levels.
Like how he was abandoned.
And he's with the government.
and he's trying to kill his nakama.
I honestly think the reason Kuma was given a bounty less than Luffy's before they met was so one of the Straw Hats could duke with him.
Remember that Oda has stated the Shichibukai bounties don't represent their "current threat level." When they sign their pact with the government, their bounties are "frozen," if you will. (Oda said that Croc's bounty would have been much higher had it accounted for his actions in Alabasta.)
I honestly think the reason Kuma was given a bounty less than Luffy's before they met was so one of the Straw Hats could duke with him.
Kuma's bounty is lower then Luffys? How do you know that? considering his bounty is Frozen.
And bounties doesnt really reflect power. Luffy has done some things to make the Marines and WG despearate to apprehend him. meaning the Marines may not consider him to be a power worthy of 300 million they just want someone to take him out fast so they offer an inflates bounty to tempt bountyhunters or other pirates.
Hey IT'S A LION, about your sig. sre people seriously saying Brook won't join because of that?
Dumbasses….
Well, they were…
Hell, Usopp got his ass handed to him how many times on Syrup Island?
And he's still a member... again.
I don't think Luffy will fight all of the Shichibukais(not including Mihawk of course). So far Oda has shown us a pattern in which the Shichibuaki have a higher bounty than what Luffy had at the time of the fights. IF this pattern continues then that means Luffy won't fight Kuma or Flamingo(presumely all of the SH's will get bounty raises after the Fishman Island arc) when they meet. As for the matchups I can only think of one: Sanji and his devil leg vs the Holy man, Bartholomew Kuma.
Kind if a generic question, but who's everyone's favorite Shichibukai so far?
I have been thinking I think Luffy may have to face all the warlords be He has a large Bounty and be cause he declarred war on the World Goverment and the warlord work for the world goverment.to answer Brooks question mihawks my favorit.
Not really as i understood it the shichibukai only has a peace treaty with the WG. they dont take orders from anyone
Not really as i understood it the shichibukai only has a peace treaty with the WG. they dont take orders from anyone
But he also has a big bounty so they may want to take it.
Kind if a generic question, but who's everyone's favorite Shichibukai so far?
Crocodile!
Really hope he gets out of jail and make an appearance on the last arc (as well as Enel with his mini-robot army XP)
Kuma's bounty is lower then Luffys? How do you know that? considering his bounty is Frozen.
And bounties doesnt really reflect power. Luffy has done some things to make the Marines and WG despearate to apprehend him. meaning the Marines may not consider him to be a power worthy of 300 million they just want someone to take him out fast so they offer an inflates bounty to tempt bountyhunters or other pirates.
Kuma's bounty is lower then Luffy's cause 296 million berry is less then 300 million berry. A frozen bounty isn't equal to an "unlimited potential" bounty, otherwise by that logic Crocodile still has a higher bounty then Luffy. That and, most of the shichibukai haven't done any crimes since becoming shichibukai (that we know of), so why would their bounties raise?
Also, what's this "they gave him a 300 millions bounty so people can catch him" crap? Isn't that the reason why anyone has a bounty, ever, for the history of time?
With that said, it seems that Kuma is by all means weaker then say, Gekko Moria, so if Luffy beat's him, then Luffy is stronger then Kuma unless he has the "anti rubber fruit."
I'm with the "Kuma will fight someone else" crowd. Maybe Sanji, or Zoro if he has a sword. Hey, maybe it'll be a yonkou, or Dragon. Maybe Chopper will get a shot? Who knows!
Moria by a long shot since the only other Shichibukai we really have enough info on is Crocodile, and to me Crocodile was so bland. For me it's too early to judge Flamingo or Kuma just yet.
Bounty doesn't reflect strength.
Robin was nothing when she was a kid and already had a bounty bigger than everyone in East Blue.
If Luffy hadn't attack Enies Lobby, his bounty would still be very low compared to now, but he wouldn't be weaker.
Taking Kuma's appearance, the Bible and all, I would say he is not so dangerous, so his bounty was not that high, not because he is weaker than Moria.
I'm with the "Kuma will fight someone else" crowd. Maybe Sanji, or Zoro if he has a sword. Hey, maybe it'll be a yonkou, or Dragon. Maybe Chopper will get a shot? Who knows!
He's a big muscle guy, so as I said Chopper or Franky.
With that said, it seems that Kuma is by all means weaker then say, Gekko Moria, so if Luffy beat's him, then Luffy is stronger then Kuma unless he has the "anti rubber fruit."
So Luffy's not strong without his devil fruit powers?
His powers also had nothing to do with his victory over Bellamy.
BOUNTY REFLECTS THREAT LEVEL (to the Government and/or the worl in general). I don't know how many times this has been stated by Oda and different One Piece characters. After Enies Lobby, Luffy's threat level tripled, and thus his bounty followed suit.
Kuma's bounty is lower then Luffy's cause 296 million berry is less then 300 million berry. A frozen bounty isn't equal to an "unlimited potential" bounty, otherwise by that logic Crocodile still has a higher bounty then Luffy.
thats your opinion then. and Croc got a definete cap by Oda at double his frozen bounty.
That and, most of the shichibukai haven't done any crimes since becoming shichibukai (that we know of), so why would their bounties raise?
… (reads that bit again) ... they havent done any crime at all "that we know of" why do they have a bounty to begin with? no sorry that was cheap...
I'll focus instead on the job description of shichibukai instead. I belive it wassomething along the lines of: In exchange for a small portion of the spoils and for hunting down other pirates the marines look the other way with most of the shichibukais crimes.
DoFlamingo clearly states that he is still a criminal at the meeting and Songoku or whatever says something or other about how sad it is to hear piracy going well.
Also, what's this "they gave him a 300 millions bounty so people can catch him" crap? Isn't that the reason why anyone has a bounty, ever, for the history of time?
Omg yes you got it! now perhaps you can see that i was trying to say that "it's not a direct measurement of power." Its just how bad they want that person caught, Luffy is atm on a spree and possibly the most urgent criminal after dragon to catch. which could mean that his bounty is higher then his power would allow it to under other circumstances.
Sorry about beeing captain obvious but some people seem to think this is DBZ or something.
With that said, it seems that Kuma is by all means weaker then say, Gekko Moria, so if Luffy beat's him, then Luffy is stronger then Kuma unless he has the "anti rubber fruit."
This conclusion is based on? He may be weaker but what makes you say that since we dont have any uptodate (inaccurate) numbers to judge by.
I'm with the "Kuma will fight someone else" crowd. Maybe Sanji, or Zoro if he has a sword. Hey, maybe it'll be a yonkou, or Dragon. Maybe Chopper will get a shot? Who knows!
I havent stated my opinion in the matter. i dont really care either way.
For all we know Kuma can be the strongest out of all the Warlords.Bounties reflect on threat level not who's stronger.I mean think about it Kuma's a Christian they beleive in god Christian dont go around Killing people.But he prbly has a giant pirate crew and he might be Powerful and as soon as he got his bountie he became a warlord.
Plus kuma's big.
He might even be the physically strongest of the shickibukai.
(Which really doesn't have anything to do with the previous conversation)
@Kitsune::
Plus kuma's big.
He might even be the physically strongest of the shickibukai.
(Which really doesn't have anything to do with the previous conversation)
That be one of the reasons why he is a treat.
Luffy's not BIG and he's a monster…
I bet Kuma would be more of a mix of the strategist and figther. For all that we know, Kuma's crew could be by far the most educated one in the world, assuming that he was based off the real pirate Bartholome...
@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:
Luffy's not BIG and he's a monster…
I bet Kuma would be more of a mix of the strategist and figther. For all that we know, Kuma's crew could be by far the most educated one in the world, assuming that he was based off the real pirate Bartholome...
I doubt he's like the real one considering Donquioxte is the exact opposite of who he's named after.
Well, Oda-sensei has certainly given the names of infamous pirates to some of the more powerful pirates in One Piece; Francis L'ollonois(Roronoa Zoro), Edward Teach(split between Whitebeard and Blackbeard), and Bartholomew Roberts (Bartholomew Bear). Of the three, Black Bart was the most successful. His wealth was the stuff of legends. Perhaps we will see some of this reflected in Bartholomew's character.
I'm excited to seeing Jimbei… he doesn't necessarily have to fight the strawhats, but since he's by awaited for his appearance for over 400 chapters, it would be pretty darn fucked up if he wasn't there.