If the Shichibukai are so strong, then why havent they found One Piece? Gecko Moria is suppose o be stronger than luffy and he has a bigger and stronger crew. Why havent they found one piece yet?
If the Shichibukai are so strong, then why havent they found One Piece?
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Because they're in the employ of the World Government.
I don't think that the Gorousei would say "Yeah, it's fine with us if you become the Pirate King, just be home by eleven and don't kill too many Marines."
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also the yonkou (four emperors) are standing in their way.
White Beard (a yonkou) is the closest to OP and that is a hell of a lot closer then any shichibukai and stronger as well…
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Because
A) Its hard as Heck to get there. Only one crew has made it and back, which is Gold rogers. I doubt you just need man power and some boat to make it, or else it wouldnt be such a hard task to do.
B) Im assuming that since they are already powerful pirates that most are rich enough already to even need what they think One Peice is. (tons of gold)
C) The WG probably won't let them go, most likely because it could have some thing to do with the 100 lost years.
D) Its way too soon to even think about the final goal of one peice in the picture.
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It could be that the One Piece is something not what most pirates are expecting, and if it has been found, it's dismissed as something that it is not. It might be something bizarre like a " I hope you had a great adventure, wasn't that fun!? -Gol D Roger" sign ^_^
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yeah i actualy thought the same thing aswell but i guess that it gotta be preety dificult or else WB pirates would have found it a long time ago (since he was the only one who could fight at the same level of Gol D. Roger)…
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The Shichibukai aren't after One Piece. They want money, so they work for the World Government. If they were after One Piece, they'd just be regular pirates, duh.
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It might be something bizarre like a " I hope you had a great adventure, wasn't that fun!? -Gol D Roger" sign ^_^
Hahahah, that would leave alot of fans going "WHAAAAT?! ODA, I'LL KILL YOU!!", but in my opinion, it would be one of the best One Pieces ever. Luffy would do a thumbs-up at it and go "Sure did! Thanks, Roger-saaan~" and everyone in his crew would collapse backward in disbelief!
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Same reason nobody has found it.
Your acting like thiers some definite level of power needed. -
… no, pirates are searching for it... it's true that if the Shichibukai WERE trying to get to One Piece, they wouldn't have found it for the same reason that no one has found it. However, they are NOT looking for it, so that's the reason. Your reason is inaccurate, Zephos.
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It's because:
All of the Shichibukai has lost their dreams[Crocodile] or either fulfill it [Mihawk].. -
Forget One PIece, it's all about the New Age. At least that's what DoFlamingo believes or at least Bellamy, whose belief was from DoFlamingo
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It's because:
All of the Shichibukai has lost their dreams[Crocodile] or either fulfill it [Mihawk]..While most of them are probably fulfilled, That's not necessarily true. they could be like BB.
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@ultimateclima:
Forget One PIece, it's all about the New Age. At least that's what DoFlamingo believes or at least Bellamy, whose belief was from DoFlamingo
The New Age wouldn't ever success..
Doflaminggo create New Age to destroy other's dream.. Because his dream is broken, he jealeous with other's & He don't want other's to achieve their's own dream.. -
… no, pirates are searching for it... it's true that if the Shichibukai WERE trying to get to One Piece, they wouldn't have found it for the same reason that no one has found it. However, they are NOT looking for it, so that's the reason. Your reason is inaccurate, Zephos.
How do you know what they are or aren't doing?
When have they shown obediance?
Crocodile pulls coup de tats under thier noses.
Mihawk hangs with Shanks.
Donquixote was almost lethally playing with high ranking officers.
Jinbei,Moria, and (?) didn't go to an important meeting.Only Cobas seems like he would care.
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Also, some of the shichbukai actually are too weak to obtain One Piece. Whitebeard has been trying for years, and he's supposedly the strongest man in the world.
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Roger knew the ancient lenguage, I believe that to get Raftel one has to desipher some sort of code or something like that to get to the Island, this is where Robin plays a huge part in, and it makes it seem as if it's Luffy's destiny to be pirate king because he has the sole survivor of Ohara in his crew.
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@Eyefarted2:
If the Shichibukai are so strong, then why havent they found One Piece?
"Yeah yeah, bery good… kvestiun"
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Also, some of the shichbukai actually are too weak to obtain One Piece. Whitebeard has been trying for years, and he's supposedly the strongest man in the world.
Yeah, the Shichibukai are "too weak" to obtain One Piece yet they equal your Four Emperors. Did any of you ever think they aren't interested in One Piece?:getlost:
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Yeah, the Shichibukai are "too weak" to obtain One Piece yet they equal your Four Emperors. Did any of you ever think they aren't interested in One Piece?:getlost:
I said "some of them" are too weak, and the "also" meant that I added that reason to the list others made. Back off.
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They arent rich enoughh to have a Treasure tree Adam fleet yet! thats why!
Pylon: I pitty the fool….
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This topic leads me to another question- surely one of those Yonkou hotshots are going to find the One Piece before Luffy?
After all, they're on the New World and Luffy is not, even though I think his strength qualifies him as a fifth Emperor.
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This topic leads me to another question- surely one of those Yonkou hotshots are going to find the One Piece before Luffy?
After all, they're on the New World and Luffy is not, even though I think his strength qualifies him as a fifth Emperor.
Maybe….but it probably won't work out like that. Something is currently keeping Whitebeard, a man actively after One Piece, from obtaining it. That leads me to believe that there's something stopping even someone as strong as a Whitebeard from reaching One Piece. Everyone else would have to go over the same hurdle.
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Maybe….but it probably won't work out like that. Something is currently keeping Whitebeard, a man actively after One Piece, from obtaining it. That leads me to believe that there's something stopping even someone as strong as a Whitebeard from reaching One Piece. Everyone else would have to go over the same hurdle.
Or maybe Whitebeard's just too busy chatting up all those HAWT NURSES to bother with the One Piece?
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Or maybe Whitebeard's just too busy chatting up all those HAWT NURSES to bother with the One Piece?
By god….could hot nurses by what's keeping pirates from One Piece?!
...that's going to be a nice arc...
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Crocdile is the only Schibukai so far who had his eyes on One Piece…but he apparently gave up, prolly cuz he's too weak. Doflamingo and Mihawk doesn't seem interested.
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robin is the only one left that can read the language scripted on poneglyph.
poneglyph might show how to reach the one peice.
many people know one piece exist, but they donno how/where to find it.(included shichibukai and yonkou)
i personaly think that to find one piece, one must have..
1. luck
2. know to read poneglyph.
i guess no matter how strong u are, if u lack of luck u might not find one piece.
may be yonkou know the script, but they are lack of luck or timing.
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oooh oooh it is only reacheble every 20-25 years or something!
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Most people think One Piece is a myth. Why chase after something that may or may not exist? Who needs to chase after some fairy tale when you control most of the world?
Why don't they get One Piece and rule the world even more? Well, to them I'm sure they think is a waste of effort and resourses.
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The question shouldn't be "Why haven't the Shichibukai found One Piece" because they are not the strongest pirates around… The Yonkou are. So it should be "why haven't the Yonkou found One Piece". Are they not the supposedly 4 most powerful pirates around (stronger then Shichibukai).
But anyway, from what I've come to understand is not one side in OP can advance without things being unbalanced. To move forward means to push against everyone else. he WG doesn't want the balance to shatter so they are trying to stop any actions being taken by the Yonkou.
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But anyway, from what I've come to understand is not one side in OP can advance without things being unbalanced. To move forward means to push against everyone else. he WG doesn't want the balance to shatter so they are trying to stop any actions being taken by the Yonkou.
Makes the most sense yet imo.
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Politics! Mutally Assured Destruction! Hazard! Good reasons all.
First we have the most powerful pirates that are still seeking One Piece, these would be the Four Emperors, who are in all probability the most powerful individual entities on the planet. The Shichibukai are privateers that had to give up freedom and the pursuit of One Piece for the right to be immune from prosecution for their manifold crimes and a liscence to kill from the world goverment.
Then you have the Marines, who just want the Emperors to die. Each of the emperors in turn is not allied with each other, hence the disaster that might come from just two (white beard and shanks) meeting and Allying. So the four emperors trip each other up as they are all competing for One Piece and dominance of the New World. The 7 Walords provide even more balance promising to turn on the weakened emperors if they attack each other or the marines and in turn buffering the marines from direct conflict as they would certianly betray the marines if it was convenient.
So in addition to any Hazards and obstacles, physical or navigational that prevent One Piece from being aquired you have a nice little mexican stand off where anyone who runs for One Piece gets shot in the back by everyone else. So everyone who is close is probably trying to slowly make their way towards one piece without losing sight of the others that want to eviscerate them.
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The question shouldn't be "Why haven't the Shichibukai found One Piece" because they are not the strongest pirates around… The Yonkou are. So it should be "why haven't the Yonkou found One Piece". Are they not the supposedly 4 most powerful pirates around (stronger then Shichibukai)
nope the SCBK=yonkou
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well 1 yonkou > 1 shichibukai ( since 4y = 7s) and i dont think 7 pirate captains are going to team up looking for the One piece right?
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I believe that the Yonkou are slightly stronger than the Marines and Shichibukai but individually the two groups are close to the Yonkou in terms of power.
Mihawk anyone?
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I believe that the Yonkou are slightly stronger than the Marines and Shichibukai but individually the two groups are close to the Yonkou in terms of power.
Mihawk anyone?
SCBK=MHQ=yonkou
the powers are equal,in the end of this arc luffy may have beaten 2 SCBK but that doesn't mean he is on schichibukai level
like BB made us understand,by killing a man worth 100 mil or more you have enough reputation to join the schichibukai so some schichibukai are powerhouses and other just are there to fill the empty chairs
since we know SCBK=yonkou that means some schichibukai have to be on WB's and shanks level in order to rival them and prove they are equal
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has anyone though about Shanks became a yonkou due to his desire to protect One Piece? or he wants to become the Pirate King himself? maybe he is the reason why the Shichibukai has failed to get any leads to One Piece?
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has anyone though about Shanks became a yonkou due to his desire to protect One Piece? or he wants to become the Pirate King himself? maybe he is the reason why the Shichibukai has failed to get any leads to One Piece?
well shanks has a plan for the new world,i think he and mihawk (and aokiji could fit also!!!) are in the yonkou and the SCBK to investigate the things from the inside
shanks already showed us that he knew what luffy was capable of becomming so he motivated him and as he told WB he lost his arm for the sake of the new world
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Like an old Chinese martial arts master, I shall answer this question with a question:
If you only read Chapter 1, how could you know why the Grand Line was such a difficult place to enter/navigate/make progress in?
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Like an old Chinese martial arts master, I shall answer this question with a question:
If you only read Chapter 1, how could you know why the Grand Line was such a difficult place to enter/navigate/make progress in?
hahahaha,a very smart answer
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Personally, I think that WB knows something about OnePiece no one knows about, and really that right there is pretty scary in itself, someone like him who had fought Gold Roger 20 years ago, and tied him no less, hasnt found or hasnt been looking for One Piece? Im sure there are reasons and its all part of the story, but Im surprise someone like him, or Shanks seeing how strong they are havent really showed any interest on this, rather the New World. What about Dragon? Maybe the reason no one is acting up on getting One Piece is because of him. Surely the most wanted man by the WG has plans that no one can ignore, not even the four emperors, so maybe they are all waiting to see what he does too. The Shichibukai we have seen thus far havent also shown any interest on OnePiece except for Sir Crocodile. DonFlamingo seems also very eager for this New World to arrive, so that Im sure is going to play a big part on the outcome of the treasure. One theory I have is that the Four Emperors just want to get rid of the WG and the Shichibukai, although who is to say that some of them arent going to turn on the WG, like Mihawk, so who knows about the other guys and where they stand on their loyalties. Dragon comes off like he wants to just rule the world and impose his "revolutionary ways" but thats just me, not that its a bad thing, he I believe will be a key character when its all revealed. I couldnt even begin to see where the mugiwara's would fit into the big conflict thats going to come out of those super powers but Im sure its going to be epic. In the end all any of us can really do is especulate and wait and see what happens. I think that this next Arc when they visit the Merman Island is going to be very important so by then alot more will be answered I hope. Again just my own theory.
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they equal your Four Emperors
since when?
the 3 powers are already stated clearly, WG/marines, Shichibukai, Yonkou
all 3 are in perfect balance and if one side should fall, the balance will be toppled.
not to mention their actual "stacked" power,
-WG/marines work together, of course, under the name of the marines
-shichibukai work together (though hesitantly) under the command and name of the world government
-the yonkou aren't even allowed to meet, and are constantly cautious of each other's teams.yet they still balance out.
that says something about the yonkou's strength. even with their current attitude of 'everyone pointing a gun at shanks until he says i come in peace', they still equal in poewr to the WG/marines, and to the shichibukai.
since when has it ever been stated shichibukai are equal to yonkou in strength? all i remember is that for shanks to go 'let's go see whitebeard', then going through the whole fleet of marines the WG sends, lugging a bottle of wine, it must have required pretty impressive powers on his part.
you just view them all as 'high powers', and deem them equal. point is, at their level, there are probably differences in power that differentiates the like-rulers of the new world and the ones who had to sign treaties with the government to stop being hunted.
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… i think Roger made the story about one piece to CONFUSE the people all over the world. he may have thought something like "hey they are going to kill me. i must do something to let them kill each other also. its not fair that im the only one to die".
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Poneglyphs are most likely the reason for that. Gol'D Roger let messages on his way to Raftel, written in the ancient language. Only those that can read it have a chance to find OP.
Obviously, Shichibukais can't. Marines can't neither.
The WG probably has possibilities (use refugies from Ohara, use scientists), but they probably also want to prevent anyone to find OP, maybe because they already know what OP really is.
Some pirates crews may be able to collect enough informations to advance enough in direction of OP… but then they are stopped, whatever it's by other pirate creaws, the Marine, the WG, the Shichibukais, the Yonkus... Or any danger on GrandLine.So to find OP, you have to be able to outdo anyone on your way, and to understand Poneglyphs.
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Fixius, there is no need to congratulate and compliment people's posts.
Angel Emfrbl and Greg said basically what I was thinking.
And the fact that the Schichibukai haven't got anything on the Yonkou.
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that might soon change…. IF Blackbeard becomes a Shichibukai....... he might be able to take out Whitebeard.... and hence..... an all out assault on the yonkou by the marines........probably....
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-From Garp we learn it takes BOTH the efforts of the Shibukai and the Marines to fight the Yonkou…
-From the Shi + Mar meeting we learn the Shi and Mar are equal. (yeah I'm too lazy to write the full names…)But we DON'T get told if either Mar or Shi = Yonkou or even if Mar + Shi = Yonkou. As I said ealier, we only know that the three sides can't advance against each other without friction being cause against another group.
If one Yonkou moves forward, any number of events may happen. For example:
-A Shi might try to take an advance of his advancment forward and try to take some of their ground from the rear.
-The Mar might try to prevent the move by attacking or trying to block them advanceing.
-The other 3 Yonkou might try and prevent themselves loosing ground against the said Yonkou. -
-From Garp we learn it takes BOTH the efforts of the Shibukai and the Marines to fight the Yonkou…
-From the Shi + Mar meeting we learn the Shi and Mar are equal. (yeah I'm too lazy to write the full names…)But we DON'T get told if either Mar or Shi = Yonkou or even if Mar + Shi = Yonkou. As I said ealier, we only know that the three sides can't advance against each other without friction being cause against another group.
If one Yonkou moves forward, any number of events may happen. For example:
-A Shi might try to take an advance of his advancment forward and try to take some of their ground from the rear.
-The Mar might try to prevent the move by attacking or trying to block them advanceing.
-The other 3 Yonkou might try and prevent themselves loosing ground against the said Yonkou.yes we do know it,as ocean said the manga is pretty clear,the translations are confusing and the manga clearly states they are equal
how can the yonkou=SCBK+MHQ when mihawk is stronger than shanks???? nad most likely shanks is the 2nd strongest yonkou
the powers are equal,the yonkou are indeed the greatest pirates but greatest doesn't mean strongest
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wait, how can you make that assumption that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks? Did Oda already drew that or mentioned it? Don't think I remember it….
we only assume it's like that because Shanks is handicapped, but did that change anything?