"All D´s must become one" - Is this another one of your analogies to gay sex?
General Blackbeard Thread
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For the record, even Roger was not mentioned as being Legendary. There's only been one pirate in One Piece that was said to be "legendary": Davy Jones.
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And as far as we know Roger had no other D. in his crew. And even then Blackbeard was still around in Whitebeards crew as he told Roger.
And it has been made as clear at it can be that Blackbeard belongs not to the kind of D. that are Luffy and Roger -
Two akuma no mis dissolves the user. Yami Yami no Mi makes impossible the dissolution by gravity, but it should have a limit. Kurohige is related to destiny, he will die by destiny… Absorbins so many fruits that will make him "disappear".
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Two akuma no mis dissolves the user. Yami Yami no Mi makes impossible the dissolution by gravity, but it should have a limit. Kurohige is related to destiny, he will die by destiny… Absorbins so many fruits that will make him "disappear".
What about BB's "abnormal body"?
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"All D´s must become one" - Is this another one of your analogies to gay sex?
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Only together they can open the gate.
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Only together they can open the gate.
So Luffy just have to kill Teach. That way he wont count anymore.
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Still, Teach could've fought Shanks without using his ability (or barely using it at all). Especially if he was intending to keep the ability a secret for as long as possible.
I forgot that I already addressed that later on, I already said go ahead and throw out the shanks-scar portion of the theory, it was obviously the claw-weapon. BUT just for the hell of it, a cerberus has three primary claws (in most pictures atleast). So it would've worked.I thought so too, but what if Oda added it later on (because it wasnt ever shown earlier in the manga) to mess with fans when cerberus theory/animal zoan was becoming more popular?
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So Luffy just have to kill Teach. That way he wont count anymore.
Sure if One Piece would be some generic merchandise anime like Digimon. Teach isn't the average villain, read the first chapter he got introduced in. Teach will become Luffy's friend.
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Anyone replying to Kanzen is dumb as hell.
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Hey Guys, I have a question , Can someone answer it for me ?
In this picture, BB says that his devil fruit is the most powerful of all of the DF . Did Mangareader translate correct ?
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? Only together they can open the gate.
this sounds to me as they'll do it cring "we're fairy tail!" or something like that… scary.
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@Kai:
Hey Guys, I have a question , Can someone answer it for me ?
In this picture, BB says that his devil fruit is the most powerful of all of the DF . Did Mangareader translate correct ?
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16 characters of Yes.
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Isn't it "the most evil" one?
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Isn't it "the most evil" one?
That's a translation error AFAIK. It's 最強の力, which translates to "The strongest power".
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I always thought he said it was the strongest Logia.
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@Medical:
I always thought he said it was the strongest Logia.
He did say that it's "unique among logias" or something.
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That's a translation error AFAIK. It's 最強の力, which translates to "The strongest power".
Well, I just dowloaded chapter 441 RAW Scan, and it's "最も凶悪", not "最強の力"..
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Well, I just dowloaded chapter 441 RAW Scan, and it's "最も凶悪", not "最強の力"..
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3821/15442654.pngOh.
I spent like an hour looking for the raws and didn't find any. I only found text that said "最強の力" but looks like it was wrong/fake.
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I don't think Oda would ever state that one DF is stronger than the others.
His entire point with Luffy is that even a weak power can become strong in the hands of a competent user.
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I don't think Oda would ever state that one DF is stronger than the others.
His entire point with Luffy is that even a weak power can become strong in the hands of a competent user.
Well, it would not exactly be Oda´s words like in a SBS or something (he stated for example that the Gura Gura is probably the strongest Paramecia) but it rather is supposed to depict BB´s misconception in believing that a strong fruit will enable him to rule the world but in the end, he will be proven wrong.
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Oda did state Gura Gura no Mi as the most powerful Paramecia fruit in SBS Volume 58..
And I guess the reason Yami Yami no Mi is said to be the most evil one, is because of it's stealing ability (if it actually can).. So evil..
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Oda did state Gura Gura no Mi as the most powerful Paramecia fruit in SBS Volume 58..
And I guess the reason Yami Yami no Mi is said to be the most evil one, is because of it's stealing ability (if it actually can).. So evil..
Strong can have many meanings. Gura Gura is probably the most destructive.
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And I guess the reason Yami Yami no Mi is said to be the most evil one, is because of it's stealing ability (if it actually can).. So evil..
It doesn't seem that evil to me. I wonder what "most good" fruit is…
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It doesn't seem that evil to me. I wonder what "most good" fruit is…
i'd say this one.
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Strong can have many meanings. Gura Gura is probably the most destructive.
Your wrong there. Having the title "Strongest" means the best…By using your definition Whitebeard of Mihawk arent the strongest in the world, only physically. One piece is a shonen manga, strongest only means one thing.
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Your wrong there. Having the title "Strongest" means the best…By using your definition Whitebeard of Mihawk arent the strongest in the world, only physically. One piece is a shonen manga, strongest only means one thing.
What about my wrong there? And even in manga, "strong" can mean different things.
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I read a spoiler that the new Pacifistas are equipped with her powers rather than the lasers of Kizaru
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@Стрелок:
What about my wrong there? And even in manga, "strong" can mean different things.
No. Not in One Piece. Provide a instance where in One Piece having the title "Strongest"(i.e the best) means anything apart from it. By your definition Dragon wouldve had the title instead of Whitebeard
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No. Not in One Piece. Provide a instance where in One Piece having the title "Strongest"(i.e the best) means anything apart from it. By your definition Dragon wouldve had the title instead of Whitebeard
Whitebeard was the Strongest, but he was still defeated.
Enel was stronger than Luffy, but he was still defeated. This is why there are no tiers in One Piece - someone "weaker" might beat someone "stronger" without making it look illogical and stupid.
Another example - Sanji lost to Kalifa, but defeated Jabra, even though he was much stronger.
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@Стрелок:
Whitebeard was the Strongest, but he was still defeated.
Enel was stronger than Luffy, but he was still defeated. This is why there are no tiers in One Piece - someone "weaker" might beat someone "stronger" without making it look illogical and stupid.
Another example - Sanji lost to Kalifa, but defeated Jabra, even though he was much stronger.
Who defeated Whitebeard ? I remember that WB is the only pirate have ever tied with Roger in a fight .
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Fine, so stronger means stronger overall, but still that's not all there is. Just because you are stronger doesn't mean you'll always win. At least that's what a very frustrated Enel told me.
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Fine, so stronger means stronger overall, but still that's not all there is. Just because you are stronger doesn't mean you'll always win. At least that's what a very frustrated Enel told me.
I heard that from Crocodile.
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Does anybody think that Blackbeard's ability to have 2 devil fruits is linked to the "Bloodline Elements" that marine was talking about? Personally I don't I believe it is, I think it has to do with his fruit (Why else would he have waited that long to make his move?) but maybe someone realised something about it that I didn't
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Can somebody give me a timeline of Blackbeard please.
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YO! After I read last chapter when the guy explain how a DF reappear in my opinion I think that Oda just gave us the answer to why BB is able to have more than one DF.
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In here we have BB as a child according to WIKI (I don't trust much of it though) and I think we don't need color to see it that way, BB is crying and in the dark, when ever you want to be alone as a child you hide under your bed or in the closet but its always dark.
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It been said by BB himself that he had been looking for that DF for decades (He's 40 and he was in the WBP for at least 23 years )and that's the only reason he joined the WBP because he thought his ship will have the best chance in finding it (They did)
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BB's DF is darkness but Darkness in this case is also a universe that BB himself can manipulate at will as we see on this pages
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He drags in and out those soldiers in ID using his darkness/universe
Remember back in TB when Brook was talking about the YAMI YAMI and how he soul came back from the underworld but he got lost and couldn't it find his body (that's the tricky part)
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To the point now: BB was in the darkness since he was child and somewhere in that moment he realized that If you trap something in a dark room and closed the door, this thing won't have a way out it will stay on that room as long as you wanted to be thats why he was looking for this DF because it will grant him the ability to store things inside such as the soul of a DF as we seen last chapter, the DF has a soul and it leaves the body as soon as the owner dies, thats why he couldn't get Ace's DF at the time because when he got there Ace was already dead
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BB wants to witness WB dead!
He actually covered WB in darkess so the DF soul can't escape and find the next fruit but just go from light to darkness also he used a black mantel because the darkness may leak out and people will know what he didIf this is how it work that will explain the DF hunting his been doing, there's a lot of theories about BB and the DFs but this is the only possible way for him to obtain and use more than one DF, he have two and is hunting so he will have more than just two DF.
PS:There's something else I wanted to say but I forgot
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We barely saw Marco do anything with his Zoan ability at all, other than fly, heal himself via his phoenix ability, and attack Akainu 1 time….
Though i did see footage of him in some One Piece games, where he used his wings to strike at oppenents, so i guess if he used that in combo with his haki, i suppose it could be pretty worthwhile.....
Actually. If you watch the movie, Shiki clearly explained his ability to the SH's. The only living thing he can move with his DF power is himself, otherwise it only works on inanimate objects, to which the likes of Luffy, Chopper and Ussop were disapointed cuz they wanted him to use the power on them.
Dude he flew to kizaru and swinged himself in a backflip slamming the sh** out of him… seemed like a prty decent attack to me.
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That's not what I meant. Of course they'd be skilled in regular combat as well, but DF powers would complement that. I don't think they're the kind of people who would refuse a DF because they "want to use their own strenght" or something. Not having a DF doesn't make you more badass in my opinion.
I'll agree with that, for blackbeards crew, I think they will all have a fruit except san juan. They want to be as powerful as possible, bakemono crew. Just a personel feeling tho
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Following Marco's speech, Body of BB is "abnormal" , so I think BB could obtain ability of DF User not only DF Yami Yami no mi, but also his body . :ninja:
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(He's 40 and he was in the WBP for at least 23 years )
Excuse me, can I ask you a question ? Why do you know BB was in the WBP for at least 23 year ? Maybe I miss something :ninja:
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@Kai:
Following Marco's speech, Body of BB is "abnormal" , so I think BB could obtain ability of DF User not only DF Yami Yami no mi, but also his body . :ninja:
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Excuse me, can I ask you a question ? Why do you know BB was in the WBP for at least 23 year ? Maybe I miss something :ninja:
Yeah about Marco and his sense of BB having an abnormal body, I think in have to do more with the YAMI YAMI then BB being born with it as some people in the past suggested, I said that because BB said this and there's is also the answer to your question about the 23 years (at least 23 years) he is 40 so he probably joined when he was 16, 17 years old or even younger
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BB said that the ability chose him, not that he chose the ability, is clearly that this ability is far different from the others but what If this ability can negate his own user and in order for the ability to chose you you need to be some what different in body structure, I think that the whole fate thing was after he ate the DF and he ended up being fine because the ability didn't negate him
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Then why post it in the wrong place anyways?
Well, Jacker is right we're going off-topic here. One last thing though Jacker, I think that he needed the cloth either because he did not do it by means of having a fruit with him, or he did it because nobody knows about this. He did not want everybody to know that a fruit respawns in a nearby fruit when the user dies. It would cause chaos and everybody would know how to do it and how he does it. It might be not related to nearby fruits but because of Smiley i strongly feel that it's the most logical solution.
Might be something else though, but we'll see.People seem to know about it, at least in the New World. A random minion of Dofla explained it to Luffy. But it's not like regular people can just kill strong DF users and take their powers.
@Dohs:I'm pretty sure that the thing with 2 devils fighting inside the body and exploding was just methaphor/rumor, but still body with 2 DF probably explodes.
Still we don't know why and how exacly it works so we can make some guesses etc.
The weird thing is BB - why is he exception? Is it because he's a D? Because of darkness fruit? Or something else peculiar about BB.
If there's one exception it is possible there will be another one, not everyone suddenly getting more but maybe one or two exceptions. And who's more special in shounen than the main character? I think there's a little chance that Luffy's special for same reasons as BB and is capable of getting 2 fruits. Not big chance I think but still a possibility :p
It's not the darkness fruit. Marco's comment about his "abnormal body" wouldn't make sense if it was.
One exception doesn't mean there'll be another. No-one has successfully eaten two before BB and now multiple people will do it? I don't think so. Two fruits would also give Luffy an unfair advantage against everyone but BB. "BB has two!" BB is a villain. I'd rather see Luffy win despite BB having the advantage than Luffy "leveling the playing field" by eating the Mera Mera or something.
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People seem to know about it, at least in the New World. A random minion of Dofla explained it to Luffy. But it's not like regular people can just kill strong DF users and take their powers.
It's not the darkness fruit. Marco's comment about his "abnormal body" wouldn't make sense if it was.Well the guy just knew that DF powers would be reborn in this world.
He didnt say when, or how. The guy could be unknowing of the details.
We know its most likely in a nearby fruit because of what we saw happened to Smiley. I sincerely doubt that of all the hundreds of thousands of fruits in the world, the Sala Sala fruit just happened to pick one of the few fruits on Punk Hazard. and specifically the oe nearest to him.Not saying nobody knows about it, but I think its logical if only a few people know what really happens. Like blackbeard and vegapunk.
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I had some thinking about new BBP crewmembers and then I was thinking about the chances of 2 brothers to join his crew
After I was searching for real life brothers pirates and I found those
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Omg, I think I just made biggest find from OP that I've ever done.
So, I was looking old one piece episodes, namely episode 147, found here. So watch closely around 5:00->5:05. Luffy takes look at Blackbeard and u see frames of 2 shadowy figures with evil smile on their face, very quick frames so pay attention.
And then scene shows Shanks. When u take closer look, those frames have nothing to do with Shanks etc. And its not Blackbeards actual face either because it would've shown missing teeth! So when Luffy and Zoro said "Its not that guy, Its those guys", were those the famous "guys"? What do you guys think?