WoW Al!na!!! If i recall correctly it's from a TCG right?
Save Oda's ones, that's the best BB i have ever seen, it seems imposible for anime team to just adapt the cartoonish but badass gestures of Teach.
WoW Al!na!!! If i recall correctly it's from a TCG right?
Save Oda's ones, that's the best BB i have ever seen, it seems imposible for anime team to just adapt the cartoonish but badass gestures of Teach.
Thats real good, well done A!ina
hmmm, @Al!naJames: wow, you really draw it yourself, good one!
But you forgot to put some random missing teeths. :P
It's a scan from Miracle Battle Carddass box. It's pretty obvious since it has the logotype on and the copyright messege in the bottom right corner.
The background effect was done by myself, though.
@Gad:
His darkness was somehow able to allow him to take in another power.
Thats not a fact, thats just an educated assumption.
1. Why BB has 3 heads in his flag?
Well, there are plenty much speculation in here, but I think the best candidate is Past, Present, Future. Or maybe just a symbol from Blackbeard's origin himself that consists of 3 persons in OP world; Edward Newgate, Marshall D. Teach, and Thatch. Edward, Teach, and Thatch are the same Blackbeard in real life.
Certainly plausible.
I still say it has something to do with the cerberus (seeing as the three heads of a cerberus represent past, present, and future).
But the flag about the three people wouldnt have made any sense to make, unless he planned waaayyy ahead that he was going to take Newgates fruit.
2. What caused Shank's scar?
There are too many possibilities too, fingernails would be the best bet. If that was a Cerberus claw, Shanks will know for sure. And look at this one:
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/467/02/
What can causes that hole in the wall? If we dont know Zoro was battling Ryuuma, we will take that as caused some cannon or some beam. How in the hell a sword can make that kind of hole? So we shouldn't be sure about Shanks scar too.
Same way Zoro can cut through steel, or do ranged attacks with his sword.
Those holes were obviously caused by Ryuuma using his ranged attack (the one similar to zoros), I dont exactly understand what your getting at with that though.
3. If it is not Cerberus, why BB didnt steal any fruit he encounter?
I am pretty sure for this, there's a limit for how many powers he can take. If it unlimited, then it will be too imba. It would be something like Dofla can control all shichibukais with his ability.
Certainly a possibility.
6. Why BB doesnt explode when he has more than 1 DF powers?
Maybe because he didnt ate them, but only absorbs it, so he still only have 1 DF in him, Yami Yami no Mi, but 2 DF powers. If the thing that allows him to do so is Cerberus fruit, it would make no senses, because Cerberus's body is still count as 1, except if Cerberus's stomach is in each of its head.
Who says that the stomach is what prevents you from eating more than one fruit?
My assumption is that its the soul, or the essential "being" of a person. So if you have three heads, that would equal three "beings", with one body.
To get a better theory on that, we need to know more about the effects of eating devil fruit.
My assumption is that its the soul, or the essential "being" of a person. So if you have three heads, that would equal three "beings", with one body.
LOL How does a head correlate to the soul or the essential being of a person to you? Please extrapolate.
I'm just wondering if I'll get a half-baked metaphysical answer or a pseudo scientific one.
Same way Zoro can cut through steel, or do ranged attacks with his sword.
Those holes were obviously caused by Ryuuma using his ranged attack (the one similar to zoros), I dont exactly understand what your getting at with that though.
hmmm, no, my point is you shoulnt be so sure what caused a hole or a scar. The hole was pretty much didnt look like it was caused by a sword thrust. Maybe Shanks scar was caused by sword too or fingernails or whatever, but not Cerberus claw, because he will know that BB is a zoan user.
Thats not a fact, thats just an educated assumption.
I'd be a fool to say you're wrong. But, it's also the best assumption you can make, unless you want to say he already had another power besides darkness. Whatever he did, was his DF's ability. Otherwise, you'll see others with two abilities running around soon. It also explains why he went to such drastic measures to get that darkness power.
Thats not a fact, thats just an educated assumption.
Certainly plausible.
I still say it has something to do with the cerberus (seeing as the three heads of a cerberus represent past, present, and future).
But the flag about the three people wouldnt have made any sense to make, unless he planned waaayyy ahead that he was going to take Newgates fruit.Same way Zoro can cut through steel, or do ranged attacks with his sword.
Those holes were obviously caused by Ryuuma using his ranged attack (the one similar to zoros), I dont exactly understand what your getting at with that though.Certainly a possibility.
Who says that the stomach is what prevents you from eating more than one fruit?
My assumption is that its the soul, or the essential "being" of a person. So if you have three heads, that would equal three "beings", with one body.
To get a better theory on that, we need to know more about the effects of eating devil fruit.
Settle down Beavis.
hmmm, no, my point is you shoulnt be so sure what caused a hole or a scar. The hole was pretty much didnt look like it was caused by a sword thrust. .
Valid point about the scar, it is definitely just speculation within speculation at this point.
But its a fact that those holes were caused by Ryuuma, read the rest of the chapter, or look in the panel beneath it.
Maybe Shanks scar was caused by sword too or fingernails or whatever, but not Cerberus claw, because he will know that BB is a zoan user
mhmm, and it maybe couldve been caused by a cerberus claw too. My theory is just as speculative as your theory.
@Gad:
I'd be a fool to say you're wrong. But, it's also the best assumption you can make, unless you want to say he already had another power besides darkness. Whatever he did, was his DF's ability.
Well, its the most practical assumption, not the best (in my opinion).
Both sides could explain loose ends (although I believe the Cerberus theory would tie up many more loose ends).
And yes, I believe that he had another power before darkness (cerberus)
Otherwise, you'll see others with two abilities running around soon.
Not necessarily, either side of the spectrum would keep others with two abilities.
It also explains why he went to such drastic measures to get that darkness power.
This point could be used to support my theory too.
He couldve wanted the ability for several reasons. Not just so he could acquire Newgates fruit (although I believe thats how he extracted the fruit).
I don't know if this was brought up before, but Blackbeard has a Logia, right? Then shouldn't he be able to turn into darkness? (lol Rick James) maybe he does have a cerberus fruit and has to use his darkness power just like the quake quake fruit.
I think I just confused myself, but basically what I'm saying is, would the Yami Yami no Mi allow the user to turn into darkness if anyone other than Blackbeard have eaten it.
edit: also the comment of him having a strange body structure might factor into this.
I don't know if this was brought up before, but Blackbeard has a Logia, right? Then shouldn't he be able to turn into darkness? (lol Rick James) maybe he does have a cerberus fruit and has to use his darkness power just like the quake quake fruit.
I think I just confused myself, but basically what I'm saying is, would the Yami Yami no Mi allow the user to turn into darkness if anyone other than Blackbeard have eaten it.
edit: also the comment of him having a strange body structure might factor into this.
Blackbeard is classified as a Logia Type because he can produce a 'black hole' from his body.
Also, here is something to think about. A few days ago, I watched the anime episode where Kurohige and Luffy faught briefly at Impel Down. Like he did with Ace, Kurohige told Luffy that he can nullify any Devil Fruit by touching them.
It begs to ask, is Teach 'nullifying' the Devil Fruit or is it being temporarily stored in his body? Of course, wouldn't be able to use the Devil Fruit until his opponent is dead, like Whitebeard. Maybe once he touches a deceased Devil Fruit User, he regurgitates that absorbed fruit and is able to absorb it permanently.
Maybe the reason why Teach hid it because it is an extremely disgusting process?
I don't know if this was brought up before, but Blackbeard has a Logia, right? Then shouldn't he be able to turn into darkness? (lol Rick James)
I have a theory behind this: Logias can turn into their element and dissipate to avoid attacks, however every Logia has one or more weaknesses to null his elemental form and force him to return to his own corporeal form.
For instance, water and the Suna Suna no Mi (Sand). The power allows the user to turn into sand, not mud, so when he user is wet, his sand would become mud, thus the user is forced to return to his normal form.
Rubber and the Goro Goro no Mi (Electricity): since rubber can't conduct electricity well, when the user tries to "pass through" a rubber object, his electrical form can't do it and is forced to return to flesh.
The problem with Blackbeard is that he CAN turn into "darkness" (we do see him partically becoming it in the manga), he just can't dissipate or pass through objects like other logia, because darkness is gravity. By its very nature, he attracts his own particles. When he's hit by something, his form tries to dissipate, but since this is against gravity's nature, he's forced to become flesh and can be hit. Indeed, his power actually accelerates any attack that hits him. In other words, the Yami Yami's weakness is itself.
I'd say other logia may have similar weaknesses, like salt or sudden intense heat may be able to force Aokiji to revert to flesh (since salt or heat turn ice into water), or Kizaru may be vulnerable to shiny and very reflective objects (since light can't go throught such objects).
^I'm pretty sure what BB said about his DF was more than enough to explain the darkness logia.
I have a theory behind this: Logias can turn into their element and dissipate to avoid attacks, however every Logia has one or more weaknesses to null his elemental form and force him to return to his own corporeal form.
For instance, water and the Suna Suna no Mi (Sand). The power allows the user to turn into sand, not mud, so when he user is wet, his sand would become mud, thus the user is forced to return to his normal form.
Rubber and the Goro Goro no Mi (Electricity): since rubber can't conduct electricity well, when the user tries to "pass through" a rubber object, his electrical form can't do it and is forced to return to flesh.
The problem with Blackbeard is that he CAN turn into "darkness" (we do see him partically becoming it in the manga), he just can't dissipate or pass through objects like other logia, because darkness is gravity. By its very nature, he attracts his own particles. When he's hit by something, his form tries to dissipate, but since this is against gravity's nature, he's forced to become flesh and can be hit. Indeed, his power actually accelerates any attack that hits him. In other words, the Yami Yami's weakness is itself.
I'd say other logia may have similar weaknesses, like salt or sudden intense heat may be able to force Aokiji to revert to flesh (since salt or heat turn ice into water), or Kizaru may be vulnerable to shiny and very reflective objects (since light can't go throught such objects).
:happy:Sounds like a good theory…
...in regards to the bolded sentence though, you have to remember that Brooke was stabbing at Kizaru on SA when Kizaru had Zoro under his foot. And, obviously, the sword was just passing through Kizaru. So, I don't know about that...unless Brooke's sword isn't shiny/reflective in any way (being steel, I doubt this is the case)...
Valid point about the scar, it is definitely just speculation within speculation at this point.
But its a fact that those holes were caused by Ryuuma, read the rest of the chapter, or look in the panel beneath it.
mhmm, and it maybe couldve been caused by a cerberus claw too. My theory is just as speculative as your theory.
Well, its the most practical assumption, not the best (in my opinion).
Both sides could explain loose ends (although I believe the Cerberus theory would tie up many more loose ends).
And yes, I believe that he had another power before darkness (cerberus)
Not necessarily, either side of the spectrum would keep others with two abilities.
This point could be used to support my theory too.
He couldve wanted the ability for several reasons. Not just so he could acquire Newgates fruit (although I believe thats how he extracted the fruit).
I really don't get why people think BB has another power. It's practically impossible. Him having two powers is a feat on its own. It just can't get higher than that. Not unless Kubo is OP's secret manga writer.
He has many uses for it. But face it, he was up against the strongest pirate in the world, and he couldn't even be sure that Ace would follow him, thus triggering the war. It was a huge risk he was taking. and finally, he admitted to have wanted that power. He was prepared to take it. It was luck, but things went as he hoped they would.
@Muda:
:happy:Sounds like a good theory…
...in regards to the bolded sentence though, you have to remember that Brooke was stabbing at Kizaru on SA when Kizaru had Zoro under his foot. And, obviously, the sword was just passing through Kizaru. So, I don't know about that...unless Brooke's sword isn't shiny/reflective in any way (being steel, I doubt this is the case)...
It's just a theory, but I think when you try to cut/pierce Kizaru with a blade does no good. IMO, you would need to strike him with the flatside of the blade, which is reflective, making a sword act more like a very poor club. The edge/point is not enough to null his power.
Will that work on laser, which is used to cut metal? Kuma's beams melt iron.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cutting
@The:
Will that work on laser, which is used to cut metal? Kuma's beams melt iron.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_cutting
Kizaru's power is light, and he uses it to create lasers. He is not a laser, or else everyone who strikes through him would be cut… :happy:
Kuma's beams melt iron.
Kuma is a Pacifista the lasers are going to be different from him
Kizaru's power is light, and he uses it to create lasers. He is not a laser, or else everyone who strikes through him would be cut… :happy:
That doesn't mean he can't turn himself into laser when he needs, right?
@The:
That doesn't mean he can't turn himself into laser when he needs, right?
Well, we don't know if he can do that. Considering that a laser is a beam of light, he'd need to actually become a beam in order to become a laser…
Maybe he has a method of "teleport" that actually hurts things in its path or something. But I don't think he can just "become" a laser and stay in regular form.
since MORIA'S FATE is still in discussion I thought will i have to start
something new so I thought of this topic:
Blackbeard didn't have a bounty before being a shichibukai,
but because of what happened in the war what do you think the WG will do:
1- keep him as a shichibukai so they cover what happend in marinford and
since all the public saw was BB beating WB then no one will suspect
anything.
2- remove him from his position and put a bounty on his head, and if they do
how much will it be.
3- something else.
I know some people would disagree with me but since nothing is for sure
i thought why not? right. HEE-HAA
Actually a good idea.
The WG would try something like # 1, but probably not for long, and are likely finding a candidate before he does something big once more.
They remove his position and put a HUGE bounty on his head. I think that may be possible or they might do the first option instead because the WG did decide to keep the prisoners blackbeard released a secret…
General Blackbeard Thread
Well Teach did appear in that camera at SA declaring that he was going to sink Marineford and that it was his era so it wouldnt really do for the WG to lie and still say he's a Shichibukai because the reporters at SA probably reported that he threw away his title.
the WG won't consider removing him unless he does another stupid thing
that will affect them and i don't think he will move that quick
But he already said he he doesn't need the title anymore since he told Sengoku he just wanted to release some Level 6 prisoners. It should be clear to the WG that he is no longer a Shichibukai since he doesn't want it anymore.
come on having BB on your side is a nice thing for "bluffing" WG even if it's for a while
1- keep him as a shichibukai so they cover what happend in marinford and
since all the public saw was BB beating WB then no one will suspect
anything.
Wasn't it broadcasted around the world that he tried destroying Marine HQ after stealing Whitebeard's power, and claimed it his age?
2- remove him from his position and put a bounty on his head, and if they do
how much will it be.
I can see this happening. Jis bounty would probably be huge, but since the government covered up the Impel Down incident than his crew probably lost their bounties.
@Dr.:
Wasn't it broadcasted around the world that he tried destroying Marine HQ after stealing Whitebeard's power, and claimed it his age?
Sort of. The people around SA know the truth, but judging from reactions from others in the Blues, it seems the WG just reported that WB died alone.
Then I guess he's gotten his first bounty already these three weeks… We'll probably see his bounty after the strawhat crew meet up again. Man I bet it'll probably be a lot....
i'm not saying they will consider him an ally, but that they'll just use him as an image.
come on having BB on your side is a nice thing for "bluffing" WG even if it's for a while
Like I said in my first post after I edited it, the people at SA saw him declare his intent to sink Marineford (They were like "What will happen to this world?" in fear) and that it was now his era. We also reporters there so they could report him as no longer being a Shichibukai. The people at SA would know that their is something fishy going on with the WG if the WG said he was still a Shichibukai.
Like I said in my first post after I edited it, the people at SA saw him declare his intent to sink Marineford (They were like "What will happen to this world?" in fear) and that it was now his era. We also reporters there so they could report him as no longer being a Shichibukai. The people at SA would know that their is something fishy going on with the WG if the WG said he was still a Shichibukai.
They also know Moria lived and ID was breached. More then likely, the WG is covering up everything regarding it on all the reporters and newscasters.
So, for all the people know, the WG can say Akainu did WB in, and they'll believe it.
if WG remove his position they should put a bounty on his head and since he declared
war then he should be as dangerous as Dragon
if WG remove his position they should put a bounty on his head and since he declared
war then he should be as dangerous as Dragon
I don't think they see him as dangerous as Dragon since he doesn't really have any beef with the WG like Dragon does. Blackbeard was in a spur of the moment after he had absorbed Whitebeard's power and wanted to show off his new powers by destroying the Marine HQ.
After everything he pulled in Marineford I doubt the World Government will allow him to keep his title. Plus it was all caught on the den den mushi. Do you really think the WG is going to forgive him for publicly defacing Marineford and claiming the current age as his own?
Sure, he probably has a plan for them later, but Blackbeard's done with the government whether they're done with him or not. He made that perfectly clear.
After everything he pulled in Marineford I doubt the World Government will allow him to keep his title. Plus it was all caught on the den den mushi. Do you really think the WG is going to forgive him for publicly defacing Marineford and claiming the current age as his own?
No, they don't think of him as a Shichi anymore, but it seems all of the ID stuff was covered up, so right now unless they got a replacement already, he's still offically with them, as they don't want to admit their failures.
Knowing the WG, they will try to write off his defection as something else then what he did at Maineford.
@S.C.:
They also know Moria lived and ID was breached. More then likely, the WG is covering up everything regarding it on all the reporters and newscasters.
So, for all the people know, the WG can say Akainu did WB in, and they'll believe it.
They were going to cover up the Level 6 incident. They never said that they were going to cover up the entire Impel Down incident (which yes, I believe the nere was a narrator box after Luffy and company showed up that the people at SA learned of the Impel Down breakout.) and there was only 1 camera working by the time Teach showed up, You think the people at SA were going to be able to keep track of 1 Shichibukai who was kinda silent during the war when there was thousands of people at the war?
They were going to cover up the Level 6 incident. They never said that they were going to cover up the entire Impel Down incident (which yes, I believe the nere was a narrator box after Luffy and company showed up that the people at SA learned of the Impel Down breakout.) and there was only 1 camera working by the time Teach showed up, You think the people at SA were going to be able to keep track of 1 Shichibukai who was kinda silent during the war when there was hundreds of people at the war?
Hannyabal's words during the fight with Luffy about the trust in the WG from the people and the fear that would break out if they knew it was broken into, leaves me to think they covered both Luffy and BB's break in-and-outs.
1- keep him as a shichibukai so they cover what happend in marinford and
since all the public saw was BB beating WB then no one will suspect
anything.
That's not true. They saw him rampaging later.
There's no way the government would keep him, mainly because Blackbeard obviously doesn't want to remain with them.
I was an advocate for this result myself, but when Blackbeard openly started rampaging against the Marines and destroying Marineford then that possibility flew right out the window.
2- remove him from his position and put a bounty on his head, and if they do
how much will it be.
This clearly.
@S.C.:
Hannyabal's words during the fight with Luffy about the trust in the WG from the people and the fear that would break out if they knew it was broken into, leaves me to think they covered both Luffy and BB's break in-and-outs.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-561/page013.html
This makes it seem like the people at SA knew of the first Impel Down breakout of the day.
http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-561/page013.html
This makes it seem like the people at SA knew of the first Impel Down breakout of the day.
It is true that the people in the SA know all of the truth, but it's also true that it wouldn't take that much for the WG to make them not talk via threats, sudden "Disappearances", what have you.
This is just dumb. How can you think they are going to keep him as an ally. He was fighting with Sengoku. Why would the WG want to keep him around? He completely betrayed them.
@7:
This is just dumb. How can you think they are going to keep him as an ally. He was fighting with Sengoku. Why would the WG want to keep him around? He completely betrayed them.
you're forgetting that sengoku couldn't even release bounties on the level 6 escapees, so the WG don't care about him and as i said before just for the
image. i mean how do you think putting someone as a warlord and then after
a week you remove him will look in the public eyes, i mean this will harm they're
look which they care about mostly.
@7:
This is just dumb. How can you think they are going to keep him as an ally. He was fighting with Sengoku. Why would the WG want to keep him around? He completely betrayed them.
Maybe they just really like the guy.
But since BB clearly doesn't want to be a Shichibukai anymore, there is no use keeping him. He'll continue to do his thing, doing whatever he wants to. The WG couldn't cover it up forever if he were to run havoc or something. It would harm their image a lot more if one of "their men" went around destroying shit rather than just admitting that he isn't one of them anymore and make him wanted again.
you're forgetting that sengoku couldn't even release bounties on the level 6 escapees, so the WG don't care about him and as i said before just for the
image. i mean how do you think putting someone as a warlord and then after
a week you remove him will look in the public eyes, i mean this will harm they're
look which they care about mostly.
How are you comparing not letting information get out about the level 6 prisoners and Teach attacking the head of the Marines. They have zero reason to trust him. Not to mention he has 4 of those level 6 prisoners. So you are looking at no less than 4 people in his crew hate the WG; yet you think that they would offer him his position back? I really doubt their image matters since everyone knows what Teach did.
No, like I said, it's not a issue of wanting him back, it's a case of Blackbeard being a figurehead of sorts as a Shichi and the WG finding a replacement for him before he does something big again and they have egg on their face. If they can find one, they can just write him off as a random betryal.