I speak all three scandinavian languages more or less fluently. but the result for my accent is it becoming a hideous chimera that basically travel up and down the countries. I lived in all three, with Norway being the time least spent in. However, my dad speaks Norwegian to me, so that allows me to brush up. Then of course english. With some very basic spanish, German and Japanese peppered in there for good measure.
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Eh sort of. Depends on what part of the countries they are from. Depending on the mix of geography betwenn two Scandi speakers they might find themselves feeling like they speak the very same language or alternatively find themselves communicating in what you can only take in as alien sounds with no meaning.
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That is really crazy and i wish i could do that. Maybe two years could be possible if you do NOTHING BUT learn that language but one year is godlike. The thing that is probably the toughest aspect is the accent. I've been learning English for a very long time but i am still unhappy with my accent and i can't even imitate dialects too well in my native language. But for spies sounding exactly like Sergei from Saint Petersburg or Avery from Texas y'all is kind of a life and death thingie. I know that some actors get dialect coaches for that but i imagine it to be incredibly tough.
So you're the complete opposite of me lol.
I'm a master of (sometimes accidentally even) mimicking other people's accents and even personal voices.But I can't learn another language to save my life.
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Eh sort of. Depends on what part of the countries they are from. Depending on the mix of geography betwenn two Scandi speakers they might find themselves feeling like they speak the very same language or alternatively find themselves communicating in what you can only take in as alien sounds with no meaning.
Hey, I've always been confused at the whole "These languages are 50% intelligible" concept in terms of actually what that would feel like.
Since the closest equivalents in English never seem to be anything but 95% intelligible and thus not different languages except if you're insane and clueless. I still remember some Dutch person here insisting to the laughter of Brits and Yanks that they spoke different languages…But that was before I really looked into Scots. Since you're both a Viking and fluent in English, if you go look up some comparisons of Scots and English….how similar is that to the differences between the mainland Scandi languages?
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@Monkey:
Hey, I've always been confused at the whole "These languages are 50% intelligible" concept in terms of actually what that would feel like.
Since the closest equivalents in English never seem to be anything but 95% intelligible and thus not different languages except if you're insane and clueless. I still remember some Dutch person here insisting to the laughter of Brits and Yanks that they spoke different languages…But that was before I really looked into Scots. Since you're both a Viking and fluent in English, if you go look up some comparisons of Scots and English….how similar is that to the differences between the mainland Scandi languages?
Seems like a pretty accurate comparison. Like the whole thing comes and goes a bit where at first they say something you absolutely get, followed by something that makes you go huh. Followed by the realization that oh you were saying that word but you are saying it all weird like. Imagine if someone was telling you about what they did last woooken', which at first glance makes no sense to you until you from context and mulling it over realize that is how they say weekend and it all crystalizes in your head. Then there are the 100% foreign to you words, and an accustomization to their flow of speech that you just need to pick up in order to decipher the rest. In most cases if you speak at each other slowly you can get the gist of things, even if some of the specific words and nuances are lost on you.
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@Monkey:
So you're the complete opposite of me lol.
I'm a master of (sometimes accidentally even) mimicking other people's accents and even personal voices.But I can't learn another language to save my life.
I wanna do it too :0
I'm good at the theoretical parts, which means I lock on to dialects easily, no matter which language is being spoke. To imitate them I'm not smooth enough though :( I bet you're like the boss at parties or small get togethers, making everyone lose it with a good imitation.
But the language learning part, you can do! I believe in you! All you need is a healthy dose of obsession. Learning languages is just memorizing and telling your brain "you need this word, don't forget it!!!" Over and over again, every goddamn day until it sticks in your longterm memory. If you stop nagging your brain all words are thrown in the short term memory dumpster, since your brain will assume the space is needed for more important stuff. So take a language that you could realistically encounter, maybe Spanish or Greek so you could communicate with your wife's fam? There are programs online for the memorization parts, that take up 10 mins of your day. Of course it's a long term commitment but you don't have any pressure. -
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@Monkey:
But I can't learn another language to save my life.
Why ? Isn't the whole thing about some people just not being good at learning another language a myth ?
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Fluent in two, (Italian English) just about capable of speaking, reading and writing another two (French Japanese).
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Question for people whose mother tongue is not English.
What is the biggest issue(s) you('ve) had learning the language ?Well, despite being born in the United States, my first language was Polish, and not English. As my parents came from Poland, so hence why I was taught this language first. I consider myself Polish anyway. Regardless, I had trouble with making the English sounds, like the "th" sound and the "r" sound when I was younger.Since I had these troubles, I had a special speech class to help me pronounce the sounds correctly. I started off with the "r" sound, and later it was the "th" sound.
Besides that, I also had trouble with pronouncing certain words like turtle, three, and squirrel. Though nowadays, I pronounce the last examples correctly, I still have some trouble with some others, though the only one I can think of is the word "year". I say it as "ear" instead. But the good news is that I have improved over the years. I believe I had all these difficulties because Polish is a Slavic language, and the way it sounds it is "hard". While English is more "softer". So, yeah, that is my experience! :3
One more thing, I am also in the process of learning French, and well I have difficulty with pronunciation for the same reason. As in the French sounds are more "softer" than Polish. Though I am making progress, and saying the words correctly, so go me! ^^
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I started taking an American Sign Language class today and memorized how to spell my name. So this college semester is going to be interesting on that front alone. Especially when I'm usually mediocre/terrible at learning other languages in earlier levels of school when we get past the simple things.
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L1: English. Specifically, I speak some bastardized mix of Southern USAian and Californian.
L2: German. Learned it from early teenagerhood, and speak it fluently enough to get by without much trouble. My skills in reading, listening, and writing are an order of magnitude better.
L3: Spanish. Learned it by absorption all my life, but only became reasonably good at it in my early 20s.Learning a language through simple absorption has got to be one of the coolest things ever. My parents and extended family all speak several Chinese dialects with each other, my parents consume media in those same dialects, so really, I've been in the prime position for language absorption to happen throughout my life.
Yet to this day, I am still only able to speak Mandarin. It's actually made me a little wary when I find other Chinese communities overseas because when they find out I can't speak even the most widespread of the dialects (I'd guess that's Cantonese), they give me this momentary look of disdain like I've stained their culture or something. I don't like that feeling one bit. -
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L1: English. Specifically, I speak some bastardized mix of Southern USAian and Californian.
I immediately imagine Mathew McConaughey's accent for some reason.
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@Bond:
Learning a language through simple absorption has got to be one of the coolest things ever. My parents and extended family all speak several Chinese dialects with each other, my parents consume media in those same dialects, so really, I've been in the prime position for language absorption to happen throughout my life.
Yet to this day, I am still only able to speak Mandarin. It's actually made me a little wary when I find other Chinese communities overseas because when they find out I can't speak even the most widespread of the dialects (I'd guess that's Cantonese), they give me this momentary look of disdain like I've stained their culture or something. I don't like that feeling one bit.Pretty sure most northern/western (in China) Chinese people would be in the same boat as you. So it might be more some sort of Chinese version of them thinking of you as a "damn northerner".
Regional rivalry. But I'm guessing by your family that you are not in fact a northerner ancestry wise, so yeah, kinda awkward thing for you huh.I'm trying to imagine a future American colony on the moon where someone descended from people from Mississippi can only talk in a New York accent, and constantly gets stink eye from fellow southern moon people.
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@Bond:
Learning a language through simple absorption has got to be one of the coolest things ever. My parents and extended family all speak several Chinese dialects with each other, my parents consume media in those same dialects, so really, I've been in the prime position for language absorption to happen throughout my life.
Yet to this day, I am still only able to speak Mandarin. It's actually made me a little wary when I find other Chinese communities overseas because when they find out I can't speak even the most widespread of the dialects (I'd guess that's Cantonese), they give me this momentary look of disdain like I've stained their culture or something. I don't like that feeling one bit.I'd imagine it's because their language is very much tied to the sense of community.
If someone can't speak the common language that does throw up a kinship barrier.
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@Monkey:
Pretty sure most northern/western (in China) Chinese people would be in the same boat as you. So it might be more some sort of Chinese version of them thinking of you as a "damn northerner".
Regional rivalry. But I'm guessing by your family that you are not in fact a northerner ancestry wise, so yeah, kinda awkward thing for you huh.I'm trying to imagine a future American colony on the moon where someone descended from people from Mississippi can only talk in a New York accent, and constantly gets stink eye from fellow southern moon people.
My family is Teochew, so their heritage is of Southern China. In my case, it's probably more extreme than just being a "damn northerner". Since my first language is actually English, even my Mandarin is somewhat stunted and awkward. I guess they'd see me like I'm not a true Chinese or something.
Ah, the pros and cons of globalisation.
I'd imagine it's because their language is very much tied to the sense of community.
If someone can't speak the common language that does throw up a kinship barrier.
That's true. I don't speak all that much with my extended family, largely because of this. Every New Year, I'm just kinda sitting there surfing my phone or playing games with my brothers and sisters (who are in a similar situation as myself, though much less extreme because they're much better at grasping the dialects than I am). The most I can do is tell from the tone of voice when someone is being all condescending towards me.
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I'd imagine it's because their language is very much tied to the sense of community.
If someone can't speak the common language that does throw up a kinship barrier.
Mandarin is the common language, Bond can't speak the localized languages/dialects that these people have.
Making him come off like a northerner, or a southern boy who can't speak any southern languages.Most Chinese immigrant communities around the world are southern Chinese in origin, so Bond is runnin' into lots of these folks.
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@Bond:
My family is Teochew, so their heritage is of Southern China. In my case, it's probably more extreme than just being a "damn northerner". Since my first language is actually English, even my Mandarin is somewhat stunted and awkward. I guess they'd see me like I'm not a true Chinese or something.
Ah, the pros and cons of globalisation.
That's true. I don't speak all that much with my extended family, largely because of this. Every New Year, I'm just kinda sitting there surfing my phone or playing games with my brothers and sisters (who are in a similar situation as myself, though much less extreme because they're much better at grasping the dialects than I am). The most I can do is tell from the tone of voice when someone is being all condescending towards me.
I'd think that much is also true in Europe. Unless you are truly fluent in the language you'll always have a stigma of being an outsider. And even the dialects within the nation make or break your instant kinship recognition with people. Like not in a socially crippling shut out way, but if you are a Scanian living in Norrland you'll better believe that people will not let you forget it. A friend of the family has lived in the north 50 years of his 62 year old life but he's still known as that Scanian due to his slight accent.
@Monkey:
Mandarin is the common language, Bond can't speak the localized languages/dialects that these people have.
Making him come off like a northerner, or a southern boy who can't speak any southern languages.Most Chinese immigrant communities around the world are southern Chinese in origin, so Bond is runnin' into lots of these folks.
Oh. I thought Cantonese was distinct enough from Mandarin to be it's own language in the same way Norweigan and Swedish are.
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@Bond:
My family is Teochew, so their heritage is of Southern China. In my case, it's probably more extreme than just being a "damn northerner". Since my first language is actually English, even my Mandarin is somewhat stunted and awkward. I guess they'd see me like I'm not a true Chinese or something.
It's ok, it's ok. The Europeans violently guard their identity from white Americans as well. Why our very own Wolfwood is a vicious unrepentant gatekeeper himself.
Why do you hate us Wolf? Why do you make us cry?We are the newtypes in space, and they are the old world earth people who cannopt understand!
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Oh. I thought Cantonese was distinct enough from Mandarin to be it's own language in the same way Norweigan and Swedish are.
Cantonese is in fact MORE distinct from Mandarin than the mainland viking languages are from one another.
Of course "Cantonese" in reality is more specifically the language of the area right around Hong Kong/Guangzhou, and part of an overall dialect area called "Yue".
Bond says he's Teochew, which isn't even part of that spectrum, it's part of the "Min" spectrum.
Southern China is complicated linguistically, it has like six or seven different language zones like that, the diversity within those zones can sometimes even make the whole idea seem silly. And the speech in one valley or bay can be virtually unintelligible to ANY other parts of China.Basically northern China is a happy land of Mandarin across the board, and southern China is like the god of languages violently sneezed and farted at the same time.
You viking motherfuckers pretty much just speak slight variations of the same basic idea (except I think Icelanders?), there is no comparison.
And I wasn't even getting into minority languages, like all those Chinese languages are counted as such basically because all those people regardless of language consider themselves and are considered ethnic Chinese, or "Han people".
So like they're all Scandinavians. But like you Scandis they live alongside non-Scandis who speak totally other shit.
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I wonder at what point the arabic dialects will be considered different languages because i can barley understand Moroccan and khaleeji.
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@Monkey:
It's ok, it's ok. The Europeans violently guard their identity from white Americans as well. Why our very own Wolfwood is a vicious unrepentant gatekeeper himself.
Why do you hate us Wolf? Why do you make us cry?We are the newtypes in space, and they are the old world earth people who cannopt understand!
It's pretty hardwired into you tbh. Like your ear is trained all your life to distinct barely distinguishable differences in your spoken language, ranking the dialects on the various scales of country bumpkinness, snobbiness and all other stereotype factors that you can gleam from a dialect. But on the other hand once you truly got the language down or better yet develop a native accent however you are in the audible fold, and then it works the other way around too. Don't be trying to claim you are Syrian when i can clearly hear that cute little native gotherburg accent coming from your lips signaling that you've rooted your ass there long long time. But the new world people just sidestep that thing altogether with their i can be both at all times, which causes somewhat of a run-time error in people who grows alot of their sense of community out of similar experiences or speaking a common language. The whole i have Swedish blood versus i've been shaped by Swedish life thing just seems to wonk us out.
Cantonese is in fact MORE distinct from Mandarin than the mainland viking languages are from one another.
Meanwhile we Euro's get to claim Dutch and German / Norweigan and Swedish as totally separate langauges.
Seems like a pretty arbitrary distinction.
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It's pretty hardwired into you tbh. Like your ear is trained all your life to distinct barely distinguishable differences in your spoken language, ranking the dialects on the various scales of country bumpkinness, snobbiness and all other stereotype factors that you can gleam from a dialect. But on the other hand once you truly got the language down or better yet develop a native accent however you are in the audible fold, and then it works the other way around too. Don't be trying to claim you are Syrian when i can clearly hear that cute little native gotherburg accent coming from your lips signaling that you've rooted your ass there long long time. But the new world people just sidestep that thing altogether with their i can be both at all times, which causes somewhat of a run-time error in people who grows alot of their sense of community out of similar experiences or speaking a common language. The whole i have Swedish blood versus i've been shaped by Swedish life thing just seems to wonk us out.
I swear as soon as I figure a way to detach Rhode Island from the ground, this is happening to Sweden.
Meanwhile we Euro's get to claim Dutch and German / Norweigan and Swedish as totally separate langauges.
Seems like a pretty arbitrary distinction.
I think Dutch might be distinct enough to warrant that classification.
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I wonder at what point the arabic dialects will be considered different languages because i can barley understand Moroccan and khaleeji.
Well depends on what you mean by "barely understand". Are they using totally different words and grammar, or do they just have incomprehensible accents to you.
Like…
Still english!
Still english!
Uh…
Ummm…
Uh oh.
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I wonder at what point the arabic dialects will be considered different languages because i can barley understand Moroccan and khaleeji.
So how do you native Arabic speakers rate the arabic dialects / languages?
Like which one is the fancy snobby Arabian, and which is the country bumpkin Arabic and so on.
@Monkey:
I swear as soon as I figure a way to detach Rhode Island from the ground, this is happening to Sweden.
Would probably feel less weird than when you are roboticly walking down a street, doing your best to avoid human interaction or accidently meeting someone elses gaze. Y'know being a regular normal everyday swede. And this chatty smiling American dude corners you by walking right into your sacred personal space and forces a conversation to let you know that hey he's Swedish too, his grandma's cousin married a second generation Swede and all. The colony drop feels like the more natural option.
Also Zar don't think i don't see you eying this thread. You gotta weigh in on the Swedish accents thing here y'know.
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Would probably feel less weird than when you are roboticly walking down a street, doing your best to avoid human interaction or accidently meeting someone elses gaze. Y'know being a regular normal everyday swede. And this chatty smiling American dude corners you by walking right into your sacred personal space and forces a conversation to let you know that hey he's Swedish too, his grandma's cousin married a second generation Swede and all. The colony drop feels like the more natural option.
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Also Zar don't think i don't see you eying this thread. You gotta weigh in on the Swedish accents thing here y'know.
Damn it.
I consider Norwegian a different language because they write differently. Comparing to say Scanian and Småländska, where there's some unique words but everything else is identical. I'm more confused that a lot of Arabs, Englishmen etc. don't differentiate more between their "dialects". Like how much difference is there in the written language? Does an Australian write differently than a Brit?
Danish is funny, nobody can fluently understand spoken Danish but everyone pretends we understand anyway because "that's how it is". So you run into situations where the Swede will speak Swedish and the Dane Danish and they just pretend they know what's being said. Then one gives in and starts speaking English but the other continues in their native tongue and it gets confusing. Or in college, when they hire Danish speakers you're supposed to understand, but at the end of class nobody had a clue what they just sat through. Reading it is alright though, as long as you know that some words mean very different things.
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Does an Australian write differently than a Brit?
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this a cool video
also this too
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@Monkey:
Well depends on what you mean by "barely understand". Are they using totally different words and grammar, or do they just have incomprehensible accents to you.
While they're not as different as your last three examples i think it's more than just incomprehensible accents since they do sometimes have different words and grammar but not enough to qualify as different languages.
But maybe they will in a few hundred years in the absence of a pan arab state.
@wolfwood:So how do you native Arabic speakers rate the arabic dialects / languages?
Like which one is the fancy snobby Arabian, and which is the country bumpkin Arabic and so on.
hmm… this will be from a tunisian perspective (northern specifically) other countries probably have different stereotypes.
so if you want to sound snobby or pretentious you can speak any dialect but add random standard arabic words in there the more you add the snobbier you sound.
like southern tunisan or libyan.
country bumpkin dialects/accents are the ones similar to us but use a hard g sound instead of the
levant dialects are sophisticated and artistic (probability because of all the cultural things they produce),lebanese is gay/effeminate.
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@Monkey:
They seem a little too socially well-adjusted for Swedes but close enough.
@Zar:
Damn it.
I consider Norwegian a different language because they write differently. Comparing to say Scanian and Småländska, where there's some unique words but everything else is identical. I'm more confused that a lot of Arabs, Englishmen etc. don't differentiate more between their "dialects". Like how much difference is there in the written language? Does an Australian write differently than a Brit?
Danish is funny, nobody can fluently understand spoken Danish but everyone pretends we understand anyway because "that's how it is". So you run into situations where the Swede will speak Swedish and the Dane Danish and they just pretend they know what's being said. Then one gives in and starts speaking English but the other continues in their native tongue and it gets confusing. Or in college, when they hire Danish speakers you're supposed to understand, but at the end of class nobody had a clue what they just sat through. Reading it is alright though, as long as you know that some words mean very different things.
But to be fair you could probably move to Norway or Denmark and get by without that much hardship. Like maybe you won't be chatting people up the first week, but within a month of immersion you'd be communicating without too much difficulty.
hmm… this will be from a tunisian perspective (northern specifically) other countries probably have different stereotypes.
so if you want to sound snobby or pretentious you can speak any dialect but add random standard arabic words in there the more you add the snobbier you sound.
like southern tunisan or libyan.
country bumpkin dialects/accents are the ones similar to us but use a hard g sound instead of the
levant dialects are sophisticated and artistic (probability because of all the cultural things they produce),lebanese is gay/effeminate.
egyptian is funny and laid back.Yeah i've noticed that Lebanese people speak alot softer than most other Arab dudes i know.
Great accent for women to have, sounds incredible.
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But to be fair you could probably move to Norway or Denmark and get by without that much hardship. Like maybe you won't be chatting people up the first week, but within a month of immersion you'd be communicating without too much difficulty.
Norway, definitely, but Denmark I'm not so sure. You could probably learn to understand it in that time but speaking is more difficult. Especially if you stay in that "everybody understands everybody" bubble. You can barely get by just by talking Swedish, but you have to learn the language properly if you want to be part of anything important.
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so if you want to sound snobby or pretentious you can speak any dialect but add random standard arabic words in there the more you add the snobbier you sound.
like southern tunisan or libyan.
country bumpkin dialects/accents are the ones similar to us but use a hard g sound instead of the
levant dialects are sophisticated and artistic (probability because of all the cultural things they produce),lebanese is gay/effeminate.
egyptian is funny and laid back.Ok so Libya is Alabama, the Levant/Lebanon is Britain, and Egypt is Los Angeles. Got it.
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It's a fun thing to think about. Like how all countries have that set-up where each part of the country has their own stigma attached to their accent. Like when i heard that Ahnold isn't allowed to dub his own movies in German because his native accent makes him sound like a hick to the Austrians.
It'd be like Larry the cable guy voicing Jet Li in a dubbed kung fu flick or something.
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It's a fun thing to think about. Like how all countries have that set-up where each part of the country has their own stigma attached to their accent. Like when i heard that Ahnold isn't allowed to dub his own movies in German because his native accent makes him sound like a hick to the Austrians.
It'd be like Larry the cable guy voicing Jet Li in a dubbed kung fu flick or something.
I've always found it funny that a bumpkin or a stupid person in some kids movie is dubbed to swedish, he usually get a Smaland accent.
In Denmark the stereotypes are more based around whether you're from Copenhagen or from Jylland and then jyllanders have these local superstitions Copenhageners don't give a fuck about. I guess Sweden being so much more spread out leaves a bigger space for different subcultures to emerge.
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So I just found out recently that I have free access to Rosetta Stone through my public library. Has anyone here ever used that program to learn a language? If so, how would you rate it compared to other methods?
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Why are Scandis and Dutch (and maybe Germans) that tall ?
Unlike americans it doesn't seem to be because of mcdonalds and whatnotIs it because they're the übermensch or something like taht ?
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Why are Scandis and Dutch (and maybe Germans) that tall ?
Unlike americans it doesn't seem to be because of mcdonalds and whatnotWhat kind of bizarre nutritional education did you have that you learned that mcdonalds makes people tall.
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Not specifically mcdonalds, but all the garbage food with too much calories in it. It's just common knowledge among doctors I guess. That's what they've always been telling me "muhh, I hope you're not tall because of all the shitty yankee food boy? understood? ". It doesn't make everyone tall (in today's standard, tall would mean more than 180cm), because everyone doesn't have the same kind of body but it would be the reason why people have grown taller in the last decades (/century). When asked why, I'm usually getting "all these useless calories once in the body don't know wtf to do, so they just make your body bigger–- taller".
As for Scandis, I recall that there is a different reason. Even though they also eat junk food and all, like (pretty much) everyone in the world. It seems they have another specific reason to be that tall. Anyway, google is failing at answering my questions. It seems to be something about genetics and natural selection and whatnot
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Not specifically mcdonalds, but all the garbage food with too much calories in it. It's just common knowledge among doctors I guess. That's what they've always been telling me "muhh, I hope you're not tall because of all the shitty yankee food boy? understood? ". It doesn't make everyone tall (in today's standard, tall would mean more than 180cm), because everyone doesn't have the same kind of body but it would be the reason why people have grown taller in the last decades (/century). When asked why, I'm usually getting "all these useless calories once in the body don't know wtf to do, so they just make your body bigger–- taller".
As for Scandis, I recall that there is a different reason. Even though they also eat junk food and all, like (pretty much) everyone in the world. It seems they have another specific reason to be that tall. Anyway, google is failing at answering my questions. It seems to be something about genetics and natural selection and whatnot
lol no it's not.
It's mostly genetics. In fact, it's not junk food that'll help people still growing (in puberty) to reach their fullest height potential, but a wide variety of healthy foods that gives us the needed vitamins and nutrition. Extra calories from junk food won't make you taller lol if any doctor actually told you that, I'd find a new doctor. -
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Yeah I guess that you have your very own interpretation as usual. Even making it sound like americans are the healthiest people in the world…
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I'm a shorty at 177 cm so i'm messing up the statistics.
But if i would hasard a guess it'd be that young Swedes drink an appaling amount of milk.
Milk is supposed to be good for the bone growth or something like that.
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italian as my mother langauge, then english and spanish..even though i'm losing my fluency in spanish because i don't have many occasions to train it
i also started to learn japanese years ago but i stopped because of lack of time and right now i don't remember much.
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italian as my mother langauge, then english and spanish..even though i'm losing my fluency in spanish because i don't have many occasions to train it
i also started to learn japanese years ago but i stopped because of lack of time and right now i don't remember much.
Huh so you're Italian huh. For some reason i had you pegged as south east Asian.
Like Malaysian or something. This shatters my entire perception of you man
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Huh so you're Italian huh. For some reason i had you pegged as south east Asian.
Like Malaysian or something. This shatters my entire perception of you man
What can i say, I'm a man full of surprises
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What can i say, I'm a man full of surprises
Well there goes the diversity-ometer down a notch.
Another whitey Euro dude for the forum grand total
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I'm a shorty at 177 cm so i'm messing up the statistics.
But if i would hasard a guess it'd be that young Swedes drink an appaling amount of milk.
Milk is supposed to be good for the bone growth or something like that.
Yup, milk is definitely one of the things I've heard plays a big role in this.
Obligatory classic turn of the century snapshot of international soldiers.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VeXEZ12HqpU/UMi3tf1Jo9I/AAAAAAAACzM/bpmUw-vJPk8/s1600/solders+of+the+eight+nation+alliance+Boxer+Rebellion.jpg
L-R: Brit, American, Australian, Indian, German, French, Austro-Hungarian, Italian, JapaneseNaturally as we know now, the British, Australians and Americans were scarfing down Burger King.
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Yeah I guess that you have your very own interpretation as usual. Even making it sound like americans are the healthiest people in the world…
I think actually a guy who studies nutrition shot you down, making no particular reference to America at all in the process.
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I'm a shorty at 177 cm so i'm messing up the statistics.
well, it's pretty much 180cm, and it's tall for an earthling
The thing about milk is a funny one. I mean, why not. It (wikipedia) would explain why I'm 189cm tall maybe. If Albanians and Romanians were drinking that much milk 3 to 4 generation ago. But it's mostly genetics in my case I guess, both my parents are tall after all.
@Monkey:
I think actually a guy who studies nutrition shot you down, making no particular reference to America at all in the process.
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Obligatory classic turn of the century snapshot of international soldiers.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VeXEZ12HqpU/UMi3tf1Jo9I/AAAAAAAACzM/bpmUw-vJPk8/s1600/solders+of+the+eight+nation+alliance+Boxer+Rebellion.jpg
L-R: Brit, American, Australian, Indian, German, French, Austro-Hungarian, Italian, JapaneseNaturally as we know now, the British, Australians and Americans were scarfing down Burger King.
lmfao, I love this forum. There is no fucking way in hell that I'm getting away from here
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- I've always wanted to learn this language.
I think that's Welsh.
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@Monkey:
I think that's Welsh.
Judging by the number of consonants, I thought it would be some Slavic langauge. Oh well…
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Looks pretty easy to me. :wassat:
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Gaelic has always be attractive to me. Welsh is scary.
well, it's pretty much 180cm, and it's tall for an earthling
The thing about milk is a funny one. I mean, why not. It (wikipedia) would explain why I'm 189cm tall maybe. If Albanians and Romanians were drinking that much milk 3 to 4 generation ago. But it's mostly genetics in my case I guess, both my parents are tall after all.
My mother is 5'2'' and my father is 5'10''. Since I take mostly after my father physically (all I got from mom was hair and eye color), I SHOULD have been taller, but since I matured early (partly due to weight) I stopped growing at 5'4''. Which pisses me off, I could have been 5'6'' or more.