If you were 4Kids

[Tommy Swoes]

@RomanGod:

You know, we always say 4Kids edits anything and everything… But for some reason they were really lax with Shaman King's dub... And I don't know why. It's like random and weird.

I mean, some other dubbing companies wouldn't even keep these scenes… And you sure as hell wouldn't expect 4Kids to... But they did. It boggles my mind. XD

I KNOW!
I freaked out when I first saw that. I was like, "Holy shit, 4Kids forgot to edit that much blood!! I think someone at the 4Kids editing staff just got fired." I never would've guessed that 4Kids would let something like that slip, and yet we can't have Luffy getting comedicly punched in the back of the head.

[GaryPotter]

@RomanGod:

You know, we always say 4Kids edits anything and everything… But for some reason they were really lax with Shaman King's dub... And I don't know why. It's like random and weird.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Yashouzoid/bloodyzeke.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Yashouzoid/tasteslikechicken.jpg

I mean, some other dubbing companies wouldn't even keep these scenes… And you sure as hell wouldn't expect 4Kids to... But they did. It boggles my mind. XD

HOLY SHIT ON A SHIT SANDWICH WITH A SIDE OF SHIT!!!1!

I think my mind was just blown.

[King Kobra]

They just suck with their edits. It's like the thing of the Crocodile punch being so inconsistent.

[Onigumo]

Let's see, I think that 4Kids would have had Luffy call "Carnaby" a big bully.

[RomanGod]

@Kaimei-Karasuhebi:

They just suck with their edits. It's like the thing of the Crocodile punch being so inconsistent.

I'm not sure this was the case, though.

There have been other scenes in the Shaman King dub that you would go "WTF" that 4Kids kept in. And they were intensional, too. I mean, they have to be.

This isn't like that one missed unedited frame of 4Kids Crocodile spitting out blood… These were just left as is.

It's just weird that they did that with Shaman King, but nothing else they have could even come close.

[Quexinos]

what was Shaman King rated and when was it on?

[RomanGod]

@Quexinos:

what was Shaman King rated and when was it on?

TV-Y7. And it played on Saturday mornings… On 4Kids' block.

[Aceburner]

That's gotta explain why SK was somewhat watchable.

I think they got lazy on that one and recolored the blood black, but I haven't seen the original. Was it the same color?

I guess Hao sweats chocolate sauce.

[RomanGod]

Nope, the blood was the same color in the original. And there's been blood on other scenes as well…

And stabbings... And unedited guns (well, for the most part, the X-Laws main guy kept his gun unedited).

[Aceburner]

Yeah, that's definitely weird. Maybe they figured, since there were ghosts and all, it would be kind of hard to convince kids nobody died.

Meh, I don't really care for Shaman King anymore after that incredibly closure-less ending.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

There. Here is a sequal to my first Funimation vs. 4Kids… thing

[GaryPotter]

@Lobster:

There. Here is a sequal to my first Funimation vs. 4Kids… thing

That dub truly confronts me with visions of my own mortality.

[Juggernaut Bitch]

That…was.....THE GREATEST THING EVAR

[Tommy Swoes]

@GaryPotter:

That dub truly confronts me with visions of my own mortality.

(Said in the blandest voice possible): "Crocodile, you're a monster!"

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Is it just me, or does Crocodile should like a "nice guy" in the dub?

Crocodile, "Hohoho, you're worthless!!" :D

[SemiJuggalo]

@RomanGod:

I'm not sure this was the case, though.

There have been other scenes in the Shaman King dub that you would go "WTF" that 4Kids kept in. And they were intensional, too. I mean, they have to be.

This isn't like that one missed unedited frame of 4Kids Crocodile spitting out blood… These were just left as is.

It's just weird that they did that with Shaman King, but nothing else they have could even come close.

In the second episode of the Shaman King dub, during the scene where Mosuke tells the true story of Amidamaru, we see the REAL reason he slew, like 50 of the emperor's samurai. While making his last stand, 4Kids kept in the censored white blood splashes from the Japanese version AND when he was standing in a pool of his enemies' blood!

Matter of fact, here's the full episode!

1UovkMir-II
You can skip to 13:50 to see the scene in question!

I had almost forgotten how GOOD the Shaman King dub was compared to 4Kids's other shows.

@Lobster:

Is it just me, or does Crocodile should like a "nice guy" in the dub?

Crocodile, "Hohoho, you're worthless!!" :D

Haha, I know! I thought the same thing when I first heard him in Grand Battle!

[Shakidna_]

You know, 4kids kept in the whole blood splashing scene when Zeff lost his leg, they just colored it gray.

They sorta did the same thing in Alabasta, they colored all of Zoro's wounds gray.

[Tsukento]

@SemiJuggalo:

In the second episode of the Shaman King dub, during the scene where Mosuke tells the true story of Amidamaru, we see the REAL reason he slew, like 50 of the emperor's samurai. While making his last stand, 4Kids kept in the censored white blood splashes from the Japanese version AND when he was standing in a pool of his enemies' blood!

Matter of fact, here's the full episode!

1UovkMir-II
You can skip to 13:50 to see the scene in question!

I had almost forgotten how GOOD the Shaman King dub was compared to 4Kids's other shows.

Haha, I know! I thought the same thing when I first heard him in Grand Battle!

WHY the hell does Crocodile's voice here sound 100x better in SK than OP? WTF MAN? Right voice and everything, but the direction and writing were god awful for Crocodile.

[RomanGod]

@Shakidna_:

You know, 4kids kept in the whole blood splashing scene when Zeff lost his leg, they just colored it gray.

They sorta did the same thing in Alabasta, they colored all of Zoro's wounds gray.

They also left in the blood COMPLETELY unaltered when they were telling the story of why Zeff was called "Red Shoes".

And they imply it's blood too! "The Gruesome Nickname".

[Quexinos]

I think it was a mistake though, like they didn't know it was blood or something. Seems odd that they kept it in there and removed it everywhere else.

[Tsukento]

@Quexinos:

I think it was a mistake though, like they didn't know it was blood or something. Seems odd that they kept it in there and removed it everywhere else.

Early editing conflicts. They were fine with Luffy punching Morgan in the face during episode 2, but had a problem with Luffy pounding Crocodile's face on several occasions.

[RomanGod]

@Quexinos:

I think it was a mistake though, like they didn't know it was blood or something. Seems odd that they kept it in there and removed it everywhere else.

I would think that too… But then they hinted it was blood.

"... his enemies, often dying his shoes red. It's the gruesome nickname"

I mean... that REALLY hints that it was blood.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

^They showed his bloody boots too.

And yes. I have watched every episode of the 4Kids dub… o_-;

[Quexinos]

@RomanGod:

I would think that too… But then they hinted it was blood.

"... his enemies, often dying his shoes red. It's the gruesome nickname"

I mean... that REALLY hints that it was blood.

dying his shoes red… I can see how some really young people might not get that. But yeah that is interesting

[Tsukento]

His enemies dyed his shoes red.

…With ketchup. 8D

[Quexinos]

hey.. why not? I'm surprised they DIDN'T say that

[Aduross]

He was a chef after all. :P

"Hey, yous darn kids tryin' ta steal my ketchup!" kick

[Kaizoku Luffy]

Now all the kids can dip french fries into Zeff's shoes! :D

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Franky really needs to make Zeff some cybernetic legs…

Anyway, this just proves 4kids inconsistency. We can have bloody boots, but are forced to have poison suction cups.

[eerie]

It's pretty reasonable to think some younger children wouldn't pick up on it, but they've cut out stuff more ridiculous than that, so I'm surprised they didn't.

[Kaizoku Luffy]

@Lobster:

Franky really needs to make Zeff some cybernetic legs…

Anyway, this just proves 4kids inconsistency. We can have bloody boots, but are forced to have poison suction cups.

I thought we agreed that they were ketchupy boots. =p (And yes, I just made that word up. Sue me. >.> )

[Tommy Swoes]

@Kaizoku:

Now all the kids can dip french fries into Zeff's shoes! :D

I lol'd. And am still loling.

Anyway…when I first saw that scene, I instantly knew it was blood, in fact, I actually thought Krieg came out and said "blood" up until I saw a rerun of it on Network, and it turns out he didn't say it.
It's definitely implied that it's blood, they even kinda show it (?!), but no one comes out and says it.

[RomanGod]

"Kinda show it"…? They defiantly show it. XD

[Tommy Swoes]

@RomanGod:

"Kinda show it"…? They defiantly show it. XD

Okay, the definitely show it.

Either way, I knew what it was without Krieg having to say it.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

Haha Tsukento. People really liked your Al Khan 4Kids speech video.
I found this on some website

[Quexinos]

Al Kahn is just pissed off and jealous of the success of anime that isn't dubbed by 4Kids.

[Tsukento]

@Lobster:

Haha Tsukento. People really liked your Al Khan 4Kids speech video.
I found this on some website

http://www.japanator.com/elephant//ul/6959-manga-is-dead.jpg

They dun stole mah joke!

[Shakidna_]

[Tommy Swoes]

I can see his parachute. He's okay!

!



See if you can spot what all's gone.

[Lobolover]

that glass looks crapedited.

[firecrouch]

@Quexinos:

Al Kahn is just pissed off and jealous of the success of anime that isn't dubbed by 4Kids.

Kinda agree with you, kind don't. He worked on "Pokemon", the most successful anime in America (although I'm sure he's unhappy that it's making a resurgence without his help), then he went on to "Yu-Gi-Oh!" which also became very successful. To him his business is better than the typical anime releaser, and the fact that alot of his recent anime acquisitions haven't met his expectations makes him think anime isn't working much anymore, not the other way around. The "Naruto" T.V dub, being a huge success without changing the music or the script much, is an exception in his mind.

But really, he's just being a businessman and trying to make his product look good, trying to set an example when he makes his claims at ICv2. He thinks merchandise is a key factor, whereas a lot of anime and manga companies think it's just a supplement to successful content. But overall I don't think he's a bad guy, just very blunt and biased. Although I'd like to know how he'd react if he sees "Unlimited Adventure" and the "One Piece" uncut DVDs selling better than the products he put out.

Funny thing, I remember at last year's ICv2 conference, Al Kahn with "Pokemon", "Yu-Gi-Oh!", "One Piece", and "Naruto" out in America, there really wasn't any big merchandise-worthy series to look at in Japan, so 4Kids would focus more on original series. Wait at a minute, I thought, what about "Sgt. Frog" (this was before ADV licensed it)? That's a very popular anime that's more kid-friendly than some of the other anime 4Kids licensed recently, and it's known for being the source of gobs of merchandise. Then it hit me, if 4Kids really passed up on it, perhaps it was because the show is known for being full of Japanese cultural references and jokes that are targeted towards hardcore anime fans. If ADV does it right, I could see "Sgt. Frog" being a mainstream hit in America, and knowing ADV they won't Americanize it. If that happens I'd love to see Al Kahn's reaction.

[Lobolover]

Id love to see Al Khan's reaction on geting one of Usopps tabasco shots into the eyes, but thats just me.

[FUNimationRules]

I would make the Ice guy and Lucci brothers because they look alike and give them Mario and Luigia(can`t remember how to spell his name.) accents.Lucci will now be Mari and the Ice guy will be Luigee.When Luffy,Zoro and Sanji hit the ice guy,the ice guy will freeze them and say mumma meea.

[Tsukento]

Tommy, you missed something. Conis' skirt is too short. 4Kids had a nasty obsession with lengthening skirts, even if they didn't reveal much. :P

[RomanGod]

They didn't do that much with One piece however… I mean, all of Nami's short skirts got through...

[Lobolover]

@RomanGod:

They didn't do that much with One piece however… I mean, all of Nami's short skirts got through...

thank goodnes for that.Too bad you died everytime she spoke.

Anyway,they couldnt name ANYONE Mario or Luigi,theyd get sued,especialy if there were acents/color edits.

[Tsukento]

@RomanGod:

They didn't do that much with One piece however… I mean, all of Nami's short skirts got through...

They usually lengthened skirts whenever quite a bit of leg is showing while the character is either sitting or kneeling. Happened in Pokémon. Jessie ran around in a short skirt, but when she was on her ass from a mishap, the skirt lengthening took place.

[King Kobra]

Really? I remember scenes like Lorelei's cleavage stunning Ash and Tracey and that one with Jame's implants being unedited when I watched the series.

[Lobster Pot-Sticker]

^Errmm no

4Kids didn't ever air the episode where James got implants

[RomanGod]

@Lobster:

^Errmm no

4Kids didn't ever air the episode where James got implants

They did. As a "lost episode". They got rid of the fake-boobs scene, though.