Thanks for the scans and the translation.
Chapter 457 "MEAT~~~!!!" Discussion
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Darn it u guys beat me :P
Oh well, here's my translation anyways
! p1
! Moria: Let's start!
Usopp: What is that thing!? A giant corpse! Not even a giant is that big!!
Chopper: *sob sob
Nami: Chopper, hold yourself! Don't make a noise!
! p2
! Moria: Behave yourself, shadow of Straw Hat Luffy!
M: I am your new master
M: From now on you will be reborn as a zombie
M: I will grant you flesh and voice
M: However, you have to forget all the relationships you had in your past
M: And become my soldier with absolute loyalty!
Luffy's shadow nods
M: Kishishishi, the pact is made!
! p3
! Hogback: (We or I) should've made a pact with Cindry to cut her from her back too, that way we can eat with plates…
Cindry: One day I will break that plate on your knee (referring to kneecap)
H: Jesus Cindry! That's one hell of a threaten
Absalom: Cindry is quite mean to Hogback
Chopper: Shadow...?!
Moria: Now... Awake!
M: from you 500 years slumber!
! p4
! Usopp: Ahhh...
Nami: Luffy's shadow...
Moria: Kishishishishi
! p5
! Absalom: There you go
! p6
! Nami: No, don't make any sound! (holds a scared Chopper's mouth)
! p7
! 900 suddenly opens its eys
NamiUsoChopper: HOLY CRAP!!!!
Moria: What the?
N/U/C fall out of Bearsy: The body starts moving!!
Perona: Hey Bearsy! You hide pirates inside you!!
Usopp: Crap! We are spotted!!
Nami: Couldn't help it! (screaming)
Chopper: The demon opened its eyes!!!
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! Absalom: That's my fiance, why (are you) here?!
Moria's 3 midgets: Pirates! Get them!
Moria: ohhh
Moria: (He) torn apart those giant chains like they are nothing!!
! p9
! Hogback: Fantastic! This, this is almost ART! This dominating presence! As expected from a legendary demon!
900: MEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAATTTTTTT!!!!!
900: I AAAAAMMMMMMMMMM HUUUUUNNNNNGGGRRRRYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
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! 900: Sanji! Bring the food!!
900: btw whos Sanji?
Absalom: Hey, where are the pirates!
3 midgets: They ran away, they were really fast!
A: Don't even think bout it! (chase after weak trio)
! Usopp: What's going on?! What happened just now?!
Chopper: (pant) Luffy's shadow was put in, then the dead body starts moving!
C: So that's the deal with the zombies! That's what Dr. Hogback means with reviving the dead...!
Nami: That big fat guy probably has devil fruit power!
! p11
! Nami: Screaming for food as soon as he wakes up, that giant monster no doubt has luffy's personality
N: If you think bout it, the dogpen we ran into back then...
Usopp: That's right! It must have Sanji's shadow!
U: And the one who hit us with the back of the blade has Brook's shadow
Chopper: So now all the pieces start coming togather!
N: Chopper?
C: These zombies are jokes of the living! This is blasphemy!(This is SPARTA!)
C: What dreams of humanity! What resurrections of the lost ones!
C: He never wanted to save lives! He's but a pure villain!
N: Chopper... (she remembers Chopper saying "Dr. Hogback is a great man! I respect him!", and sees the reindeer's disappointment)
U: Put those emotions aside for now, for our friends are going to be part of this zombie farce!
! p12
! U: You guys got it? It's up to us now!
U: To save them!
U: Hurry!
U: To Luffy's body!
N: I remember them saying "take(him) to the ship"
N: They were probably talking about Thunsand Sunny
C: If Zoro and Sanji had the same fate, then they should also be sent there
N: Those guys...
U: sure make us worried!!
Absalom reach out his hands, Uso and Chopper suddenly shot from behind
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! Nami: Usopp! Chopper!
Nami: Hey that hurts! Let me go!
Nami: (caught by Absalom) This guy is too strong!
Absalom: Say goodbye when you can...
A: This woman will soon be my bride!
! P14
! Usopp: Dammit, what kind of man am I if I can't even protect a girl! (Okay so our Sogeking sounds uber heroic here, I wanna see the original Japanese text to make sure this is Oda intended instead of Chinese translator's courtesy)
! Chopper: Wow, Usopp, that weapon is...!!!
Usopp: Six Shot Viper Star! (Soge +1 cool points)
C: He is fading again!
Nami: Even I am (turning invisible)!!
U: Na, Nami disappeared!
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! C: Nami, where are you!!
C: I can't track her scent! There's another stronger smell here!!
Nami in background: Help! Usopp, Cho....!!!!
U: Nami!! What's going on!!! Where are you!!!
U: Answer me!!!
Invis Absalom: Zombies, I leave the rest to you guys
A: Finish them and send them to Lord Moria
U: Where is he talking from...
Armed zombie attack, Usopp dodges
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! U: What the..!!! An armored zombie!
U&C: Zombies everywhere! We can't get caught, we will get our shadows taken too!!
Zombies: Pirates!
Zombies: Give out your shadow
C: WAHHH The painting zombies are coming too!!!
U: Dammit! This is not fair! They are invulnerable to our weapons and they outnumber us!!
U: We can't get caught like this...!!!
C: Let me go!! Let me go!!!
Zombie: WAHHHHH (suddenly purified)
! Mysterious voice: You dirty zombies, let go of my littles!
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! Zombie A: Wahh! What the...!!!
Zombie B: What!? Our comrades are getting purified!!
Zombie B: This is bad!!! What are they!!??
Usopp: ROBIN~~~!!!!
Chopper: ANIKI~~~!!!!(Yep, Chopper called Franky "aniki" apparently LOL[and yea it was Franky who called them his "littles' last page])
! Franky: What happened? We are missing one person here
Robin: Usopp, Chopper, are you guys alright? (Yep, she called their names, yay)And my comments:
1. We know that Moria will try make a "pact" with the shadows before putting them into bodies. The question is does this pact have actual binding power or it's just a verbal agreement?
2. Cindry is not binded to such pact, thus her rebellious nature (and more importantly, why was she made exception)
3. Revived 900 with Luffy's shadow yells for Sanji, meaning zombies have at least some of their shadow's memories. (Yet strangely Dogpen did not recognize weak trio)
4. Absalom can make those who have direct contact with him invisible too (this is kinda expected)
5. Usopp is acting quite heroicly if you ask me, plus he used Kabuto in front of Chopper, our reindeer is in for a big revealation! (or more likely, a big lie)
6. Usopp, Chopper, Franky, Robin join force, I think this is gonna be our rescue team setup (instead of the weak trio and new recruit trip acting seperately)
7. Robin is calling Usopp and Chopper by their names, don't know bout you but for me that's another long time question settled. (she feels comfortable and close enough to call other SHs by names, they are truly her family now)
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I hope someone takes the place of that guy who got arrested very soon. Someone who wont get caught so easily. Sucks not having a normal raw provider around. Chapter looks good though.
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Chapter 457: Meat
Page 1:
Moria: Let us begin!
Usopp: What is that giant?! Giants aren't that big!
Chopper: Uh…
Nami: Don't make a sound, Chopper!Page 2:
Moria: Pipe down, Luffy's shadow! I'm your new master! From now on, you will fuse with that zombie and grant you your voice and flesh. But you must forget your past and relationship with your friends. You must be an obedient soldier!
Shadow: (nods)
Moria: Hehe! Agreed!Page 3:
Hogback: I should erase Cindry's past too. So we can dine using plates again.
Cindry: I'm going to smash that plate on your knee.
Hogback: Cindry, you're so scary!
Absalom: Cindry sure acts like she's something towards Hogback...
Chopper: Shadow...!!
Moria: Awaken! Rise from your 500 years sleep!Page 4:
Chopper: Luffy's shadow!
Usopp: Ah...
Moria: Kishishishishi!Page 5:
Absalmon: It went in.
sound of ice breakingPage 6:
Nami: Don't make a sound!Page 7:
Weak trio: YIKES!!!!!!
Moria: What's wrong?
Usopp: The zombie moved!
Perona: Kumacy! How dare you let pirates hide in you?!
Usopp: The found us!
Nami: I made a sound!
Chopper: The demon opened its eyes!Page 8:
Absalom: What's my bride-to-be doing here?
Zombies: Catch the pirates!
Moria: He broke off of the chains!Page 9:
Hogback: This is great! It's just like art! A famous demon!
Oz: MEAT!!!!! I'M STARVING!!!!!!Page 10:
Oz: Sanji! Give me food! Wait, who's Sanji?
Absalom: Where are the pirates?
Zombies: They ran away!
Absalom: You're not getting away!
Usopp: What happened just now?!
Chopper: The zombie came to live when Luffy's shadow went inside! So that's how zombies are made! And this what Hogback said about reviving the dead!
Nami: And that man must be a DF user!Page 11:
Nami: The first thing he said was meat, and that is just like how Luffy would act! Come to think of it, the penguin we met acted like Sanji, so has must be Sanji's shadow!
Usopp: And that swordsman was Brooke!
Chopper: All these strange stuffs are being answered one by one!
Nami: Chopper?
Chopper: These are all zombie acts! It's a disgrace to human life! What dream or dead coming back from the life?! He never wanted to save human life in the first place! He's a villain!
Flasback: Hogback is an honorable man!
Nami: Chopper...
Usopp: There's no time for that! Our crewmates are all becoming zombies!Page 12:
Usopp: You got that? We must rescue them! Quick! We must find Luffy's body! They said they were going to try it to the boat, so it must be Sunny!
Chopper: Zoro and Sanji must be in the same situation too!
Nami: They're really making us worried!Page 13:
Nami: Ah!
Chopper: Wah...
Usopp: Ugh...
Nami: Usopp! Chopper! Ow! Let go! He's strong!
Absalom: Say goodbye! This woman is my bride!Page 14:
Usopp: If I can't protect a woman, how do I call myself Usopp?!
Chopper: That weapon?!
Usopp: Six Rapid Stars!
Absalom: Hehe!
Chopper: He's gone!
Nami: Me too?!
Usopp: Nami's gone!Page 15:
Chopper: Where's Nami? The scent is blotted out by something stronger!
Nami: Usopp! Help!
Usopp: Where are you, Nami? Answer me!
Absalom: Go get them, zombies. Bring them to Moria-sama.
Usopp: Where are they speaking from? Ah!Page 16:
Usopp: What the?! Zombie in an armor?! There's zombies everywhere!
Chopper: We must not have our shadows taken!
Zombies: The pirates! Give us your shadows!
Chopper: The zombies in the portrait too?!
Usopp: This isn't fair! You guys are invincible and you're teaming on us! I mustn't get caught!
Chopper: Let me go!
Zombie: Just give us your shadow! Guaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!
Usopp: Huh?
Franky: Put your hands off my underlings!Page 17:
Zombie: Who?! They purified our comrades! Who are they?!
Chopper: Big bro!
Usopp: Robin!
Franky: Seems like one of you is missing.
Robin: Usopp, Chopper! Are you hurt? -
Thanks for all the translations everybody. It really clears up this chapter.
With Usopp's line about manhood,
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Usopp: If I can't protect a woman, how do I call myself Usopp?!I want Usopp to take on Absolom. He needs to assert his manhood by saving Nami. IF this ends up AGAIN another fight where Usopp gets saved by Sanji and Sanji takes his prey…I'd be so ticked off.
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Might I ask what is it you have against Jojohot? Is it just because it's in Chinese that most of you cannot understand or what?
On the good side, I told you I can translate Chinese.
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Might I ask what is it you have against Jojohot? Is it just because it's in Chinese that most of you cannot understand or what?
On the good side, I told you I can translate Chinese.
Well its mostly because they put their damn logo on all the fucking pages, like they own the damn thing.
But anyway its nice to see we got to see Oz with Luffy's shadow in him. Let the shenanigans begin.
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Might I ask what is it you have against Jojohot? Is it just because it's in Chinese that most of you cannot understand or what?
On the good side, I told you I can translate Chinese.
Because its better in Japanese as the actual original version and is useful for archiving purposes that way. Chinese translated raw is completely pointless/redundant.
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Might I ask what is it you have against Jojohot? Is it just because it's in Chinese that most of you cannot understand or what?.
I'm from California, so even if its in japanese i wouldn't be able to understand it.
As for Jojohot, its that symbol thats an inconvience, but its not that bad. I thought that it would end up like that chapter where there are symbols everywhere on the chapter itself. Was thta another raw provider? Cause if it was i'm sorry. This quality was really good though, just really darkened ink. Still awesome. -
@Skull:
Because its better in Japanese as the actual original version and is useful for archiving purposes that way. Chinese translated raw is completely pointless/redundant.
Do you ever not bitch?
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Looks like good stuff.
Anyone notice something funny? Hogback and Absalom's main henchman abuses them (Cindry, Lola), but Perona abuses her henchman (Bearsy). Guess that shows who wears the pants… er, leggings... in the mysterious four.
Yeah, Robin referring to the crewmembers by name shows that she has become more and more comfortable with them.
Absalom is SUCH an Invisible Woman clone, I'm sorry.
Lastly:
OZ SMASH.
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Do you ever not bitch?
I'm just telling things as I see them really. The guy asked what was wrong with having a Chinese scan group do weekly "raws" for a Japanese comic. My opinion on the quality translations available for this manga and the handling of the series in general outside Japan is pretty negative all around. Sorry if most people are all incredibly optimistic and don't like such an attitude, but oh well.
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@Fire Fist:
Anyone notice something funny? Hogback and Absalom's main henchman abuses them (Cindry, Lola), but Perona abuses her henchman (Bearsy). Guess that shows who wears the pants… er, leggings... in the mysterious four.
Actually that just shows that the woman no matter who ALWAYS have the upper hand over the man.i'm a guy FYI At least here in Thriller Bark.
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@Skull:
I'm just telling things as I see them. The guy asked what was wrong with having a Chinese scan group do weekly "raws" for a Japanese comic.
Yeah, but there is a point for a chinese scan. It's a scanlation and maybe, GASP just maybe, that jojohot scanlates for GASP chinese fans.
Also he never said anything about doing weekly raws for a japanese comic, he said what was wrong with Jojohot.
As for the whole "JOJOHOT!!" on every page is so that people don't steal their scanlations.
So yeah, try not to bitch because you are lucky we even have a scan. Hajime no Ippo hasn't even come out yet which should have come out on monday ;-;.
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Yeah, but this is a point for a chinese scan. It's a scanlation and maybe, GASP just maybe, that jojohot scanlates for GASP chinese fans.
Also he never said anything about doing weekly raws for a japanese comic, he said what was wrong with Jojohot.
As for the whole "JOJOHOT!!" on every page is so that people don't steal their scanlations.
So yeah, try not to bitch because you are lucky we even have a scan. Hajime no Ippo hasn't even come out yet which should have come out on monday ;-;.
I apologise then. Wish I could aim my bitching at the people who decided to arrest that guy. Wonder if I could annoy the heck out of them so much they'd release him just to shut me up.
Hajime no Ippo is great btw. At least the anime. Haven't read the manga.
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Page 14:
Usopp: If I can't protect a woman, how do I call myself Usopp?!
Chopper: That weapon?!
Usopp: Six Rapid Stars!Yeah, I'm awesome.
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rapidshare: http://rapidshare.com/files/33433635/op.rar.html
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Even though it's been said several times already…thanks Warp.
Also, awesome Franky entrance at the end makes up for a rather uneventful chapter.
I wonder what kind of voice they'll give Oz when they animate it. There's potential for hilarity~
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XD i like the part when Oz said Meat!!! i hope we get Brook vs Ryuuma in the next chapter
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Yeah, pretty uneventful chapter. I loved Chopper calling Franky big bro though, that was funny, and that panel of Absalom holding Nami was badass. Other than that, nothing much to say.
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So are you saying that all translation that aren't in Japanese or English are pointless and negative? This sounds very offensive. One Piece has a massive fanbase in Taiwan and the official translation has reached up to the same volume as in Japan and the anime is very well catching up. There are several special prizes and promotions seen on TV regarding OP and there are even special events held specially for this series once in a while. OP's popularity in Taiwan is over the roof already.
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Japanese raw: http://www.sendspace.com/file/p262ys
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Cindry: Sooner or later, I'll crush those plates on your kneecaps.
Hogback: Holy mother!! Oh Cindry, your threat is so frickin scary!!Hahaha, nice. Their relationship is… haha, somewhat creepy.
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So are you saying that all translation that aren't in Japanese or English are pointless and negative? This sounds very offensive. One Piece has a massive fanbase in Taiwan and the official translation has reached up to the same volume as in Japan and the anime is very well catching up. There are several special prizes and promotions seen on TV regarding OP and there are even special events held specially for this series once in a while. OP's popularity in Taiwan is over the roof already.
No, I meant suddenly switching to Chinese scans for a Japanese comic that has been archived in Japanese/English for 456 chapters on a forum where people mostly spoke English seemed stupid. Like that guy saying "whats wrong with this group?" meant whats wrong with using them as a replacement. Its great if other countries can like the series despite most of them getting the 4Kids dub. Is there any country where its achieved mass popularity with that dub btw?
Also I'd like to see at least one male good guy character slap/punch Nami before this series is over during one of her typical tantrums, after she hits them. Wapol, Nami, Luffy, etc have all hit Vivi but no one can touch Nami no matter how she treats anyone. First character to break the trend and counter attack unexpectedly during one of her routines gets 10 cool points from me.
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^Chinese scanlations.
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Wow. This chapter fuckin' sucked. It's arguably the worst chapter of One Piece I've ever read. Not only did I totally call the first words out of the beast's mouth, but the progression was awful. The action was pitiful. And Usopp, Nami and Chopper are dumbasses.
Worst chapter ever.
And in a surprising twist…...
BEST COLOR-SPREAD EVER
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I think Oda wasn't actually present for making this chapter.
Reason? The cover. Oda's not lazy, and the cover story had no reason to end. The art looked a little different as well, could've been the Jojo scan though.
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Gotta love the "IF I CANT PROTECT THIS GIRL HOW CAN I CALL MYSELF USOPP AGAIN" stuff just before miserably failing to protect the girl and getting cannon fodder characters ganging up on his ass again. Now I'm expecting him to refer to himself as "worthless long nosed git", gotta have some coherence here.
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Oda's not lazy, and the cover story had no reason to end.
The um, cover story didn't end.
Guess I really can't complain about this chapter sucking total and complete dirty ass though.
Not after last night's earth-shattering season finale of LOST.
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The um, cover story didn't end.
Guess I really can't complain about this chapter sucking total and complete dirty ass though.
Not after last night's earth-shattering season finale of LOST.
Do they include cover stories in volume releases?
Also I'm not seeing many cover stories in scanlations either. Why are they skipped?
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Wow. This chapter fuckin' sucked. It's arguably the worst chapter of One Piece I've ever read. Not only did I totally call the first words out of the beast's mouth, but the progression was awful. The action was pitiful. And Usopp, Nami and Chopper are dumbasses.
Worst chapter ever.
And in a surprising twist…...
BEST COLOR-SPREAD EVER
Gee, Gregy, what did you expect from this chapter?
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Probably something that didn't suck?
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Naturally, any official translation should be paid much respect to.
But once traslated, it's not "raw" any more, let alone scanlations unofficially released.
Anyone that can't understand Japanese nor Chinese but that can understand English should wait until Japanese raw is translated directly into English.:happy:By the way, it's my first post.
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What the hells the problem with guessing Oz's first words would be Meat? Does it add some texture of importance to your pathetic life??? Huh????? Does it?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?
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Somebody Answer Me!!!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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?!?!?!!!!!!!!???!?!?!?!?!!!?!!!!????????!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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DO~~~~~~~~~~N!!!!
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This chapter mainly sucked, but the last couple of pages were pretty good. Usopp's Kabuto and Franky's pose.
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Robin looks badass with that sword! And Chopper with pistols is cute!
I'm getting really tired of Absalom kidnapping Nami. And Usopp talking about "manly honour"
I'm scared how obedient Luffy's shadow was. Thankfully the zombie is anything but. Since I predicted that his first words will have something to do with meat this marks my first correct prediction since ever, but I don't feel particularly proud
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Gee, Gregy, what did you expect from this chapter?
Something that didn't suck salty balls joey. I'm sorry I can't share your opinion every week.
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Not so interesting chapter but it's fine. So let's see what we have..Zoro, Sanji and Luffy will sleep for 2 days. No more Useless Team, as Nami is being taken by Absalom. Usopp and Chopper are meeting Franky and Robin. Well, I'm quite disappointed from that actually. I had a rapid guess in the middle of the chapter, something like 'maybe this is Ussop's big opportunity of NOT being a big loser and doing something really helpful', and it goes for chopper too actually 'cause he really pissed me off so far, all of the Useless Team, because they were so..useless|: so I was really hoping they were going to save everybody this time and really surprise us all. but I guess that won't be the case since they got their asses saved by Franky and Robin (except poor Nami). I'm really disappointed.
Anyways, a quick guess..if they are going back to the ship right now, I think Ussop will change back to Sogeking. Next chapter is probably Brooke-Ryuuma action. that's what I think.
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It is now time to question about Absalom's powers.
My guess is that Absalom is an Esper, a person born with psychic-powers. That kind of makes sense through Absalom's actions: the invisibility, the blast on Dogpen and the fiery explosions on Usopp & Chooper are without doubt Telekinesis and Pyrokinesis.
If it's not the act of a DF-power, then Absalom is the very first character who uses a different source of supernatural power aside of DF.
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I loved viewing chopper as he listened to sogekings stories…this was real fun...lets see how it goes on...and what about luffy??
Frankys pose is awesome. This one alone justifies him as a crew member.
I think the team will regroup and rescue nami. And they will find here in the treasure room
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@Krillos:
It is now time to question about Absalom's powers.
My guess is that Absalom is an Esper, a person born with psychic-powers. That kind of makes sense through Absalom's actions: the invisibility, the blast on Dogpen and the fiery explosions on Usopp & Chooper are without doubt Telekinesis and Pyrokinesis.
If it's not the act of a DF-power, then Absalom is the very first character who uses a different source of supernatural power aside of DF.
It's painfully obvious that his DF (yes, it's probably a DF) is a ripoff of the invisible woman. He can create invisibility and use it as a projectile, exactly like the Invisible Woman.
He's basically can create forcefields.
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I think Cindry is probably going to play some sort of role in Nami's escape, that or Oz will fuck something up that somehow helps the second and third tier characters beat Moria. But yeah, the pacing in this arc has been less then stellar. Then again, maybe it's just me but post chapter 400 the pacing in the story has been kind of bad even when read in tanko form. But hey, I haven't bought any of those tankos so who the hell am I to complain.
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@Fire Fist:
It's painfully obvious that his DF (yes, it's probably a DF) is a ripoff of the invisible woman. He can create invisibility and use it as a projectile, exactly like the Invisible Woman.
He's basically can create forcefields.
Invisible Woman AND The Human Torch.
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I think the pacing outside of maybe a few boring scuffles here and there, has been on par with most of his decent work.
But this chapter was just a shit sandwich. Everything was way off.
The only thing that was of any interest was the beast shouting Sanji's name.
Wow, so surprising. We've seen that people with strong wills keep that which is closest to them in their zombie body. And we're supposed to be surprised that the man who fucked over EL for one crew member would forget his crew?
Ugh.
I hope he gets back on track next week.
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Yeah, I was refering to the fights moreso then the not fights outside of this arc. But you wouldn't know that because you can't read minds. I mean, he got to show maybe a page of Lucci's backstory but Luffy's fight with him went on for something like 10+ chapters? Sure it wasn't 10 complete chapters of nothing but fighting fappin', but still I found it annoying.
And I completely agree on the forgetting his crew and wanting man meat from Sanji.
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Does this mean of Ozz not being a bad guy and screwing up Moria's plans?