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I hear rumors of Morlun being the villain of a 4th movie. Not sure how I feel about that, though it was kind of a fun story arc in the comics, although it led to mildly retarded consequences.
Morlun was badass, but I never really got into that one. But I did like Twisted Toyfare's take on it:
SPIDEY: {reading his script} Hmm… apparently I have to go stab a vampire with my claws and eat his face. Did we get our scripts switched?
WOLVERINE: Don't ask me, bub.
Only a COuple of more days till the movie comes out =D!
Saw some new Trailers and one of just purely of Venom fighting Spider-Man and man that got my blood pumping =O! The Venom FIght scene <33
But I sure as hell would like to see a more attractive and smarter Mary Jane.
I hope they make Gwen the main love interest, at least for the next movie.
That actress is freaking gorgeous as Gwen.. I mean she literally looks like an angel in some of the pictures.
Read a few reviews on AICN.
! Seems like it'll disappoint.
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Read a few reviews on AICN.
! Seems like it'll disappoint.
Read some too =O
Looks like it's gonna be So-So
! "…surprised by just how violent the big four-man brawl really was, by just how bad Spidey gets his ass handed to him."
Cant wait to see that.
This is the last one right? I think I will see it. Hopefully its not gonna be like
Coming this 2050… Spiderman 28! Spiderman, now age 64, is going to have to fight the social workers who are trying to take him to a retirement home? Can he possibly beat them? Oh, and in other words, his now 130 year old grandmother... DIES! WOAH, betcha didn't seen that one coming.
I hope it is =O. Hope this movies ends like they could make another but if they dont its alright since it wont leave you in a cliffhanger.
The reviews for this have been generally positive.
Oh and Tobey has been offered 20 million bucks to star in Spidey 4
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Gary "Iceman" Martin. RIP.
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Oh and Tobey has been offered 20 million bucks to star in Spidey 4
Geez thats a whole lot for just one movie
Really? Where is that tidbit of info?
this is a movie that I kinda want to see, but I haven't really liked the movies since the first one (RIP Willem Dafoe's norman/goblin)
Well, goin' to see it tonight.
I just looked up Morlun, and….......... wow. It'd be funny if he got in over guys like Lizard and Scorpion, though.
edit: ahahaha, apparently Morlun is from that godawful "The Other" storyline. That's why he sounded so lame.
Morlun isn't colorful enough to be in a movie =/ I'd rather have Shocker's boring personality than a guy that looks like eurotrash.
Actually the Vulture would make a pretty decent character, especially if they combine his story with that other guy that hired Alyster Smythe to reverse his old age in the cartoon. They could even have spiderslayers to keep the number of "villains" the same as Spidey 3
I'd love for Morlun to be the 4th villain because the whole point of him was that he was different; non-colorful, non-spandex-wearing, non-megalonaniac/irate/hateful at spidey villain. Peter commented how absurd it was that this guy was destroying tons of shit and lives to get to him, and it isn't even personal.
Imo, Morlun is just distilled cynical badass -and with an appearance from him, hopefully we'dl see Ezekiel as well.
Well the movie comes out Friday, and my Media Arts class is going to go see it with 2 other Film Classes! ;D
They're closing the theatre's so we're gonna go see it between 9:30 - 2:30
So, can't wait for it. Cuz it's free >:)
Actually the Vulture would make a pretty decent character, especially if they combine his story with that other guy that hired Alyster Smythe to reverse his old age in the cartoon. They could even have spiderslayers to keep the number of "villains" the same as Spidey 3
Vulture was actually going to be the second villian in 3 until they switched to Venom.
As for my idea of 4, I think they should tie the Spider-Slayers with Scorpion as a sub-plot to the Lizard. Or maybe have Kraven try to hunt Lizard down instead.
Anyways, going to go see the film at IMAX opening day. Can't wait!
What can I say?
It's definitely Spider Man 3. I didn't like the other two films and I didn't like this one either. In the same vein, if you think the other two are "the best comic book films ever made" then you will surely place this in your number one spot.
That's not to mean I thought it was a total waste because what action sequences there are, are done quite well, especially a chase through an alley which was awesome. Also, almost anything done with Sandman is awesome, the effects are killer! Particularly where we see him first gain control of his abilities.
As for Venom? I'm not gonna lie. I was let down. Granted most of what I know of Venom is from Maximum Carnage and the animated series so I dunno what is or isn't canon and it doesn't matter because that Venom I knew was the shit. But this Venom is just? I dunno folks. First of all, Topher works as Brock. In fact, he's probably the most believable character actor in the bunch as a main character. But Venom itself? First of all, the 'We' is gone. I dunno if that was added for the cartoon but it was a little touch that added so much. Plus despite the fact that Venom has a monstrous roar, Brock's voice as Venom is virtually unchanged. This was probably the 2nd biggest dissapointment for me regarding the villain. The biggest? He and Spider Man don't have a knock-down drag-out battle like they should. He and Spidey have an aerial battle falling 40+ stories to the ground but it goes by far too quickly and a scene used earlier in the film during a rescue that was BREATHTAKING should have been employed here as it would have been far more dramatic to see them smashing through rubble in mid-air trying to kill each other. Another fanboy complaint would be….Venom isn't named in the film. Not at all. He never states his name, nor what advantages the symbiote gives him over Spider Man. They BRIEFLY hint that his Spider Sense doesn't work, but that's about it. Considering the secrecy they held him in and how they want SM to expand beyond fans and hit the general public, I wouldn't be surprised if most viewers call him, the 'black monster thingy'. I dunno, besides my complaints, where Venom does show up, is cool. But...it's not enough. Yes, I'm a total Venom fanboy and technically one could argue nothing could ever be enough for a fanboy, but I can honestly separate myself from the situation and say something is lacking.
As for why I didn't like the film? Raimi's melodrama works on the small screen. On the big screen where he wants us to take his story seriously, I find the rollercoaster of emotions his characters go through nothing short of laugh-out-loud amatueristic. The angst is OFF THE CHARTS. And I'm not just talking about when the black suit is involved. Way before that. Characters who OBVIOUSLY are madly in love suddenly bicker and squabble over SERIOUSLY stupid shit.
MJ: "I got a shitty review from a critic."
PP: "Don't worry, you're amazing. Just get back up on that horse and you can do it!"
MJ: "This isn't about YOU!!!!"
What the fuck???? He's being tender and kind and she's not exactly a bitch so what the fuck is with the sudden attitude? At the expensive of believable characters, their emotions are seriously fucked with to propel the story. I felt this to be true in both 1 and 2. If you ate that up, then you will no doubt sacrifice a lamb at the alter of Spider Man 3. But it didn't/doesn't work for me.
Okay, but one more thing.
There is a moment in the film.
So amazing.
So fantastically amazing.
One might even be tempted to call it 'perfect'.
I'll just say, when Peter enters a French restaurant, get ready for the greatest thing ever in all eternity times infinity.
And I'm not just talking about when the black suit is involved. Way before that. Characters who OBVIOUSLY are madly in love suddenly bicker and squabble over SERIOUSLY stupid shit.
MJ: "I got a shitty review from a critic."
PP: "Don't worry, you're amazing. Just get back up on that horse and you can do it!"
MJ: "This isn't about YOU!!!!"
What the fuck???? He's being tender and kind and she's not exactly a bitch so what the fuck is with the sudden attitude? At the expensive of believable characters, their emotions are seriously fucked with to propel the story. I felt this to be true in both 1 and 2. If you ate that up, then you will no doubt sacrifice a lamb at the alter of Spider Man 3. But it didn't/doesn't work for me.
I thought you said you had a girlfriend.. 
Maybe girls are different in Japan.. but this is a Queens/NYC actress we're talking about..
PS don't ever date a girl that says her major is theater/drama.
Nice review though, thanks for keeping it relatively spoiler free
My inner child is….crying. When I was little and growing up, like many, I was into Spider-man. I was a massive fan of Venom as a boy, and when the first movie of Spider-man came out, my then 11 year old self got so excited. For what?
Cause I thought I'd finally get to see a live-action Venom, but he wasn't in it.
Nor was he in 2.
Now, around the time the first movie came out needless to say I was loosing interest in Spider-man. But I was still so damn excited to see a live-action of Venom.
......Ooops, I think my inner child just committed suicide. Poor kid.
I thought you said you had a girlfriend..
Maybe girls are different in Japan.. but this is a Queens/NYC actress we're talking about..
PS don't ever date a girl that says her major is theater/drama.Nice review though, thanks for keeping it relatively spoiler free
Some actresses may be different but we've seen her character develop in two films now and she's never shown to be selfish or a bitch. Characters change personality so fricking fast in this film, your head will spin.
Again, if you ate that up before, this will be no different.
…...Ooops, I think my inner child just committed suicide. Poor kid.
Like I said, when he's in it, it's cool. It not done poorly, just severely lacking. I mean….he didn't even give his name. That was just like...huh?
Aw, that's disappointing. The 'We' is very integral to his character.
Still, I'm pretty psyched to see this movie. I thought the first two were alright, so I'll hafta form my own opinion on this one.
Like I said, when he's in it, it's cool. It not done poorly, just severely lacking. I mean….he didn't even give his name. That was just like...huh?
He just seemed butchered.
1. He isn't massive in size.
2. No "We" and it seems some of the psychotic part of the character is gone.
3. No monstrous talking voice.
I bet we didn't even get the long tongue and green saliva.
I'd blame Raimi for not making Venom more computer generated both vocally and for keeping out the We, instead of Topher. This is disappointing because I approve of everything Raimi has done to this point with the movies, especially the story of 2.
Like Greg said, he made a good Brock, and I can honestly believe that since I'm in the minority that think he's a good actor.
Venom not being massive doesn't make a huge difference in the film because he's a wily creepy fuck here. The problem is, they didn't use that to their advantage when they could/should have.
There's a scene where Spidey performs an aerial rescue that is hands down breathtaking albeit short. If they used the same ideas presented in that scene and expanded upon them in the battle with Venom it would have been AMAZING. Unfortunately the two of them only lock horns directly for what seems like moments.
The green saliva? Didn't notice any but the tongue is definitely there. It pops out a few times.
But again. French restaurant. That's all you need to know to recognize when the movie goes from normal to legendary.
I think I'm gonna love Venom being treated as mutant jerk #5
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Bad move, bub!
Ah Bruce Campell FTW, eh Greg?
I have known about how Venom will be portrayed for awhile. Didnt know about the voice though. I knew about the high pitched yell he does.
And Franco is amazing in this movie. He really is.
Damn. My uncle, a costume designer for movies and plays, was going to be hired to work on this movie, but got fired. :(
I think I'm gonna love Venom being treated as mutant jerk #5
Haha, yeah. A few years ago I would've been disappointed, but over the years I kind of realized what an incredibly lame character he is.
I saw it today and loved it. It lulled a bit in the middle (all the angsting got a bit overblown - and I'm not exactly the biggest Mary Jane/Kirsten Dunst fan) but both the beginning and ending were epic stuff. I thought Venom was awesome even though I never really liked him as a character, though I definitely admit he could've been creepier.
I don't care anyway, because beautiful asskicking and some of the most superb effects ever made the price of admission more than worth it. Also, Bruce Campbell.
Just got back from watching it. It was meh, Venom did NOT get enough screen time. The best part was Emo MySpace Parker, but in a poison suction cup way.
Release the razors, Emo Spider Man had arrived.
I just got back from seeing it aswell.
It was done very well. Venom was amazing, and I truely loved Sand Man.
Go watch this movie, you'll love it.
yeah i loved this movie too
last fight needed even way more venom
Venom was only put in the movie to appease fanboys.
The beginning is fabulous, the ending is wonderful, the middle is fantastic, and almost everything else is superb. They got it right this time. They finally accomplished in portraying Peter Parker as a character, and Spiderman as an alias.
Don't listen to what people say about Parker being emo. Ignore those who call any display of anger emo (if it was, the Hulk would be the biggest emo case on the planet). Plus, he's not pissed every single minute of the movie. His emotion ranges from happiness to fright to amusement to to vengefull to peaceful to determined to cocky.
Though it's classifed as an action film, I'd label this as a romance film. The character's emotions and interactions are the core of this film, as any great film should be. Instead of running around in spandex while swinging their fists in circles hoping it will connect with the fist of something they oppose, each costumed individual has their backstory, their goal, and their moment to shine. The Sandman has become a much more sympathetic character than his comic book counterpart. And the breaking relationship between Peter and MJ is much more than just this relation is suffocating me, let's break up. Even the villains show great emotion and interaction.
On an interesting note, Aunt May is given a much smaller role than in previous films, while Urusla (the apartment owner's daughter from the second movie) gets a much more significant role.
See it. That's it.
It was alright. Though I hear something shows up at the end of the credits, but I left too early.
I waited 'til after credits. Nothing. At least not in the Japanese version.
Is it me or did they edit out the scene where someone was drilling the Meteor?
Also I loved the movie but
! Venom Reminded me of a Raptor from the Mario bro live action movie. =P and his voice was deep just not deep enough.
I liked that fact that his voice wasn't deep. And that they got rid of the constant flickering of his tongue. Made him seem like a monsterous human than a big movie monster.
Saw it this afternoon. Eh. EH. What a strong start and middle, it definitely had the potential to top 2. But they just took the very first film and made it sooper xtreme.
Which is why it sunk in the last chapter. I thought it was really stupid in the first one how Spidey used his powers in school, but I didn't really care and moved on. The scene that ruined it for me won't be specifically named, btu you'd know it. You'd know it because every point in the film afterwards sucked just as bad as it did. Every one.
! After the worst scene ever, a crappy Venom forms, Harry finds out the truth, Mary Jane is captured AGAIN, the bad guys team up, Spider Man leaps into the fray in front of the American flag, Sandman becomes a Scooby Doo type monster, the good guys team up, blah blah touchy death and resolution. I mean, wow, what a bad ending. The worst part was that Harry and Peter all but ass raped Mary Jane and ended up doing the same thing they would have done.
On the plus side though, all of the actors have gotten better in their roles, and the new characters were pretty well done. Not Ock good, but Norman Osborn good. I actually felt sorry for Brock and Sandman, and as a dumb broad, Gwen was on the money. Some of the scenes were too obviously 3D, but the first encounter with Sandman and the later New Goblin scenes were great.
Not a bad way to waste money, but Parker may have well have said "I am The Spider!"
Oh, and Raimi, keep your fucking nephews away from part four.
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Spider-Man 3 B+
[moulin rouge]Generally I liked it[/moulin rouge] Great movie It's probably the best Marvel…NO Super Hero movie I have seen yet! But of course like everything it was not without it's flaws. First would be Venom, His voice remained virtually unchanged after his transformation, The claws were a horrible edition, he definitely was not as big as he should have been which makes no sense since he was CG the majority of the time, I don't know it seems like they are able to take small villains like the Sand Man and Doc Octavious and make them totally awesome, but big time villains like Venom and the Green Goblin get totally screwed up....
Another problem for me would probably be the fact that they kinda messed up the Black Spider-Man suit, All they really did was make it black, The kept the little web lines and they did not even add the new spider symbol, Also there was way less spider-man than there was Peter Parker, I mean there was no snappy come back or funny dialog that I would normally expect from the character.
Now onto the good, I thought the fight sequences were totally awesome, Sand Man was done so well, Especially his first scene when he gets his powers and then when he uses them, His fights with spider man were done so well, I can't believe how good it looked the CG was truly breath taking, Another good fight sequence was the two Peter vs Harry fights, The first was great but the second one was an all out brawl!
I thought the dialog (Besides MJ's constant whining) was pretty good, Especially when harry was trying to mess with there relationship. I also enjoyed the humor in this film, I loved how silly Peter got when he started using the symbiote suit, It sure did enhance natural dorkiness, I was in stitches in all of those scenes up until he slapped MJ (Which I say she sorta had it coming) I really loved when he started dancing at the club and the scene with the french guy in the restaurant (Seriously Tobey Maguire must have loved working on this movie), Besides that this movie had the best Stan Lee cameo in any of the marvel movies :lol:
Like I said earlier Generally I liked it and I would not mind seeing it again :mrgreen:, This definitely has to be added to my DVD Collection (Which is very small might I add)
Also funny there was this little girl in the theater who kept asking her parents why the characters were crying and why Eddie was screaming when the Symbiote falling on him.
Toni, no offense, but you must be the most plain user on the forum. Your posts, your avatar, everything. You're like the Ishamaru of Arlong Park.
That totally came out of nowhere.
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Just saw it. Overall it was a great movie. Some things I didn't like was the sympathetic villains. Sandman was, in a way, unsatisfying. Throughout the movie he has a sad look on his face and he really doesn't amount to much. He doesn't get near accomplishing what he was trying to do, and at the last part when he teamed up with Venom, he really had no reason too, and at the end, he basically said "Sorry for killing your uncle, kidnapping your girlfriend, and nearly killing you. I'm just trying to save my dying daughter."
Another problem is that Sam Raimi likes to kill off every other character ever shown! I mean, Venom was awesome and he just kills him!
Along with that we had very dark peter parker that was just weird. I mean, one day he's about to propose to his girlfriend and the next, he's beating her. I know what the symbiote does to you, but that seemed a little extreme.
Despite those little things though, it was awesome! Topher Grace was absolutely PERFECT as Venom. He played it extremely well and Venom was extremely well done. He just needed a HECK of a lot more screen time. The New Goblin was pretty good with a confused and angry Harry at the helm trying to exact revenge. Sandman was a little too emotional. In all the trilogy, there have only been twon TRUE villains(one's that aren't naturally good and don't say let me turn my evil ways around). They were the first Green Goblin, and Venom. Once again, Venom was simply awesome.
The movie was ok, but it doesn't top the 2nd one in my book. There was too many villains & too many things all happening at the same time. Potential characters get killed off, & I felt the story was just completely wasted. The only thing I can say that I truly enjoyed about the movie was Emo Parker & of course, seeing Venom in a live action rendition. Emo Parker's dance walks & wise crack comments were awesome, but that's about it. It's a disappointment to what 2nd One has set the boundaries of what future Spider-Man films should've been like, Underlying morals & Parker's daily life struggles with his emotions & responsibilities, craftfully woven with really well done stylistic action scenes. You get some really nice action scenes in the film, but that by far means it makes it a good movie. A lot of the development in Parker's character & screen story was really shifty in this one, it seemed like they jump from one idea to another not knowing what they're trying to get across. In result, you get a mish mesh of fangasms here & there, without ever getting a true conclusion. They really need to get the screenwriters from Spider-Man 2 if they're ever able to redeem themselves with the more likely to come sequel.
I mean, Venom was awesome and he just kills him!
Spoiler alert
A character from this that supposedly died apparently isn't dead. And if there is a God, then it will be Brock who seemingly disappeared and not Harry.
Like a comic death no body no death. If they made a 4 he might be back. Just what I think =P
Spoiler alert
A character from this that supposedly died apparently isn't dead. And if there is a God, then it will be Brock who seemingly disappeared and not Harry.
! The funny thing about that is you see Brock's skeleton BURNING UP in the pumpkin bomb flame Spiderman throws. It sucked because Venom only got about 10 minutes of actual screen time, even though he's the most badass villain in the movie.
Also, in the US release, nothing after the credits.
Venom needed more screentime I'd say. He is an awesome character, basically like Spiderman's steroid-ed clone (although he's not). Sandman originally didn't kill Ben Parker I don't think… but it was a good add-on and it gave some more twist to the movie. Sandman was brilliant. The special effects were off the charts. Personally, I'm sick of the Green Goblin so Harry Osborn was nothing special. Overall, it has a bit of Venom time, great Sandman, and Meh Goblin. The acting is as usual "Toby-ish" which means mediocre. I'd say... if your going to see a movie. See Spiderman 3 over something like Shrek 3....
I've heard some hilariously awful things about this movie.
Good thing I never cared for the franchise (or comic book films in general. blech).
the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
Spoiler alert
A character from this that supposedly died apparently isn't dead. And if there is a God, then it will be Brock who seemingly disappeared and not Harry.
Hopefully you're right and it is Brock, but I wouldn't set my hopes too high on that.
Funny as hell when Harry got clotheslined at the beginning. Also, Sandman looked awesome as hell, though didn't like the way he was just added to be Ben's killer.Apparently the symbiote taches you to play the piano and dance.
