Yay! Thanks alot BF and the others who helped!
Chapter 453 "Cloudy, Partly Bones" Discussion
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Fun stuff…
Questions:
So what did absalom shoot out of his hand that launched DogPen through 4-5 trees and embed him into a wall? As far as we know he could have a miniature cannon hidden in those gigantic sleeves of his, but on he other hand, that's one badass reputation to scare the creature zombies away so easily.I think he has the ability to make invisible anything he touches (I think someone poited it out previously too, but can't remeber). Maybe he has a gun in his hand. Dunno. (from the pic where he shoots dogpen you might tell that he is in a gun-shooting position).
Also, where is brooke falling from? My speculation is the ship's crows nest from where he sabotaged thriller bark's gigantic sail. Any other ideas?
I'm in with that. If Brook had been waiting 10 years to get to Triller Bark he might have a plan in mind to take his revenge.
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Yeah, kinda like Mr.5 who could shoot his air with a gun, and make it explode.
Would be repetitive but I think it is possible that he can shoot invisible stuff.
But seeing that the sanji-penguin flow through a few trees it would have to be a bazooka…..and it doesn't seem probable that he is wering an invisible bazooka. -
I was going to ask about the missing dialogue but i read you rockshmock and thanx so much for trans.
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Oh dear, all of the fanfic authors are going to go berserk over Robin's new move. Cute chapter, though. Absalom is shaping up pretty nicely, and it's nice that Brooke's back.
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I am very interested in Absaloms Character design. He seems to be the first normally proportioned male villian ever. I actually get a creeping weird feeling, like he should be larger or something. Its kinda freaky.
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I think Absalom has Psychokinesis power or something. Thats how he can launch people through air with a move of a hand.
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Flying Robin seems a bit cheap but it was done very originally so whatever…
Yay for Brooke being back.
And another something that's not exactly related to the chapter but I wasn't sure where this would go: Remember when Nami, Usopp and Chopper were on the carriage with Hildon? And I'm sure you all remember that when Nami looked out, she spotted a lion with a human's face. And we all know that Absalom is a human with a lion's face, right? So my theory is that Absalom's face is actually from the lion! I've also got proof backing up this claim:
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RwA9DqoUythBDAl4A1V8Y3P6l4!sQdZip0EvA55sNm4OJ*Vx1QDEzhKuxjWLpWI!Zu5!yDo9SuHgSQR86eOILILueSz7BKx4gpvBngJtE28/05.bmp?dc=4675610879400311794
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-2/onepiece449.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=11384
The first link is the lion and the second is a close up of Absalom. If you look carefully at both pictures and compare, you can even see that both faces are stitched at the same places! -
Yes, I'm curious about some lines, too… for example what dogpen says after he gets up (after Lola's blow)... because Usopp and Chopper look very impressed XD Or it looks like Brooke has more lines at the end o.o
Ah, I smell a Brooke VS GZ-Fight! Well, if that is correct, then Brooke is obviously not a normal arc-helper character (cough new nakama cough). Arc-helpers always seemed to be weaker than the mugiwaras... but if Brooke is able to defeat the GZs... oh boy, this is going to be cool! Just two of the GZs are still interessting now (Jon and gunslinger)... so this could be an elegant way to get rid of the unimportant GZs, just let them "kill" by Brooke!
GO BROOKE! Become a Mugiwara and kill Mary-Sue! XD
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The first link is the lion and the second is a close up of Absalom. If you look carefully at both pictures and compare, you can even see that both faces are stitched at the same places!
You're about four weeks late. After Absalom was first revealed people started saying that.
This was a nice chapter. Hopefully the three latest crew members will indeed get a lot of focus this arc.
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@GordoJones: Well then, didn't know that, I don't really read through the chapter threads. My apologies.
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MQ-HQ 453 spreads fixed [not yellow]:
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/1188134/OP_MQHQ_453_spreads_fixed_not_yellow.rarHope this makes it better to look at. ^^
About Absalom shooting Dogpen.. eh.
I'm still on the stage HE ACTUALLY TRASHED DOGPEN EASILY! AHH!
Just before that he was said to be as strong as a general, dammit. -
wOW. Robin's evolving better than I thought she would have. I didn't know she would be able to fly, pretty nifty. Great chapter.
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Oooookay, here we go! This should be the complete perfect and whatsoever version of the translation. If there's still something missing or if I made a mistake, let me know ; D
(but I doubt it HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA)
第453話 くもり時々ホネ
Chapter 453: Cloudy, with a small chance of bones
[^ a weather forecast reference, thanks to smartz for a better wording]
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エネルのスペース大作戦 Vol.21「いざ、月へ!!」
Enel's Great Space Strategy Vol.21: "Well then, to the moon!!"02
Box: Inside Thriller Bark, "Perona's Wonder Garden"ゾンビ「おい!!どういうつもりだ新入り!!」
Zombie: Hey!! What're you up to, newbie!!
ゾンビ「おれ達ゾンビはご主人様の命令には絶対逆らえねェ体なハズなのに!!」
Zombie: It's physically impossible for us zombies to oppose Master's orders!!ゾンビ「こいつ・・・なんで逆らえるんだ!?」
Zombie: Why… is he able to oppose the order!?
ゾンビ「しかも将軍級に強ェ・・・・!! 」
Zombie: Furthermore, he's as strong as the General rank....!!犬ペン「常識では測れねェ力・・・不可能を可能にする力・・・!!!全てを吹き飛ばす
そのハリケーンの名は・・・」
Dogpen: The power, that can't be measured by common sense... the power that makes the impossible possible...!!! It blows everything over
Dogpen: The name of that hurricane is...犬ペン「恋!!!」
Dogpen: "LOVE"!!!ナミ「やっぱりあの犬ペンギン言ってる事がバカみたいで
ほぼサンジ君・・・!!」
Nami: That dog penguin's talk sounds almost exactly
Nami: Like Sanji-kun....!!
ウソップ「おい犬ペン!!サンジの事知ってんのか!?
おれ達ゃサンジのマブだから助け・・・」
Usopp: Hey, Dogpen!! Do you know about Sanji!?
Usopp: Did that Sanji loverboy come to resc---犬ペン「ゴチャゴチャクソうるせェ海賊共ォ!!!」
Dogpen: Shut the fucking shit up, you pirates!!!
ウソップ「うわァ!!やっぱおれ達には敵なんだ!!!」
Usopp: Uwah!! He's our enemy after all!!!アブロサム「待て~~~!!」
Absalom: Waaaait!!
Usopp: Huh?
チョッパー「遠くから声がするぞ!!今度は何なんだ!?」
Chopper: I can hear a voice from a distance!! What's it this time!?アブロサム「待てローラ~~~~っ!!!」
Absalom: Wait, Lauraaa~~~!!!03
ローラ「捕まえてごらんなさい(はぁと)ウフフフ!!ウフフ!!!」
Laura: Please try to catch me <3 teheehee!! Teehee!!!ウソップ「猪!!?」
Usocho: A hog!!?ローラ「見つけたわよ!!!そこの女ァ!!!この泥棒泥棒ネコめがァア!!!」
Laura: I found her!!! That woman over there!!! That fucking "Thief Cat"!!!
Nami: !
Nami: Eh? Me!??ナミ「ま・・・まだ何も盗んでないけど!!!」
Nami: Bu... but I haven't stolen anything yet!!!Laura: I won't let you have Ab-sama!!!
Nami: Who!!?Nami: Hold on a sec!!!
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犬ペン「このレディに手を出すな!!!」
Dogpen: Don't lay a finger on this lady!!!
Laura: !!Laura: Whu!!?
Dogpen: ...........
Laura: Don't butt in!!!
Dogpen: !!!!Usopp: Shit, Dogpe got hit!!!
Chopper: Why didn't you attack!!?05
Dogpen: Even if I die I won't kick a woman!!
Chopper: EXCELLENT...!!!
Usopp: To notice that that thing was a woman... you're brilliant!!ナミ「ウソップ、チョッパー!!!助けて――っ!!!」
Nami: Usopp, Chopper!!
Nami: Heeeelp!!!
Chopper: Nami!?アブサロム「花嫁は戴いた!!!さァ今すぐ式を挙げるぞ!!!もう準備はできてるんだ」
Absalom: I got my bride!!! Okay, then let's have the ceremony immediately!!! I already made the preparations!
(growl)
チョッパー「えェ!?ナミが飛んでる!!スゲー!!」
Chopper: EH!? Nami's flying!! AWESOME!!
ナミ「違う!!さらわれてんのよ!!!」
Nami: No!! Don't you recognize him!!Usopp: Recognize!!? Whom!?
Usopp: Oh shi-!! Don't say it's the invisible man!!?ナミ「離せ!!あんたね、お風呂場にいた透明人間!!」
Nami: Let go!!
Nami: You're the invisible man who was in the bathroom, right!!?Absalom: I've examined you, and you're appropriate to be my bride!!
Nami: !07
アブサロム「おいらの名はアブサロム!!」
Absalom: My name is Absalom!!
(growl)
Nami: !!
アブサロム「夫となる者の名だ、覚えておけ!!」
It's the name of your future husband, so remember it!!ナミ「人の裸じっくり見といて偉そうに」
Nami: I don't keep my body in shape everydayナミ「私の体は何も変態野獣の為日々磨いてるわけじゃないっ ての」
Nami: for some perverted beast who smugly peeps on naked people!ナミ「サンダーチャージ!!!」
Nami: "Thunder Charge"!!!
アブサロム「ぐおあアア!!!」
Absalom: Goaaaah!!!Nami: Ugh!!
Usopp: Nami!!!
(pant)
(pant)
Nami: !
Usopp: Good job, now run!! Let's leave this forest!08
アブロサム(何だ・・・この体中を迸る衝撃・・・!!・・・まるで突如雷に打たれたかの様な・・・)
Absalom: (What's that... this shock that shook my whole body...!!
Absalom: ... it's as if I got struck by a sudden bolt of lightning....Nami: Huh... what!? He's not falling down!!
Absalom: ......
Usopp: He's not an ordinary person, you get that from just looking.... hurry!!アブロサム「これが・ ・・ 恋!!? 」
Abslom: is that ..... Love!!?
ローラ「逃がさないわよ!!!この泥棒ネコ!!!」
Laura: I won't let you escape!!! You thief cat!!!Zombie: He... hey, this isn't the time to be standing around looking baffled!
Zombie: Our duty is to capture those three!!
Zombie: Right!! If we fail, Lady Perona's punishment awaits us!!犬ペン「・・・いかん!!あのレディが狙われちまう・・・
しかしおれはなぜあの娘を守ろうとするんだ・・・ ・!?
―それに体も思った様に動かねェ!!肉体が・・・弱すぎる・・・・!!!」
Dogpen: ... it's no use!!! They're after that lady...
Dogpen: but why do I want to protect her....!?
Dogpen: ... moreover, my body doesn't move the way I want!! .... this body is..... too weak....!!!09
ゾンビ達「急いで3人を捕まえろ!!」
Zombies: Hurry, get those three!!
アブサロム「動物ゾンビ共!!待て!!あの女には手を触れるな!!!」
Absalom: Wild Zombies!! Wait!! Don't harm a hair on her head!!!
[^ Note: I know we've been writing "Animal Zombie" for some time now, but the pronounciation for their rank should actually be "Wild Zombie", I should have cleared that one up a bit earlier]ゾンビ達「うるせー!!このエロサロム!!」
「おれ達動物ゾンビはご主人様の命によって」
Zombies: Shuddup!! Friggin Pervsalom!!
Zombies: On Master's command, us Wild Zombies
Absalom: ….ゾンビ達「ペローナ様の部下になったんだ!!お前の管轄じゃねェ! !」
Zombies: became Lady Perona's subordinates!! You're not our commander!!アブサロム「待てと言ってんだよ!!!!」
Absalom: I SAID WAIT!!!!
Absalom: ROOOAR!!!!
Zombies: !!?
Zombies: Ah--アブサロム「お前らがペローナの支配下にある事くらいわかってる
―だが、それ以前においらを怒らせちゃならねェ事も分かってる筈だ
Absalom: I do understand that you're under Perona's control
But before that, you should understand that you shouldn't anger me.アブサロム「生意気な口は程ほどにしておけ・・・・!!!」
Absalom: So keep your cheekiness within limits....!!!10
Absalom: ..............
Absalom: and what's your problem.....!!!犬ペン「・・・あのレディは追わせねェ・・・!!」
Dogpen: .... I won't let you go
Dogpen: after that lady....!!Zombies: He... hey, newbie, stop it!
Zombies: Don't upset Absalom!!アブサロム「・・・・・」
Absalom: ......11
ドゴォ・・・ン!!!
DOGOOOhh....nNN!!!
Dogpen: !!!
ゾンビ達「どわ!!!」
Zombies: dowah!!!
ゾンビ達「ぎゃあああああ」
Zombies: Gyaaah!Zombies: GULP
Zombies: ........!!ウソップ「おいナミ、狙われてんのお前ばっかだな・・・・!!」
Usopp: Hey Nami, I think she's only going after you....!!
ナミ「ホントよ迷惑っ」
Nami: Yeah, it's really bothersome!ウソップ「二手に別れて逃げねェか?」
Usopp: Can we split up into two groups then?
ナミ「囮かっ!!!薄情者」
Nami: With me as bait!?! You're heartless!
ローラ「待ァ~~~~てェ~~~~~!!!」
Laura: Waaaaiiiiiit!!!
チョッパー「イノシシこえー!!!」
Chopper: That hog is scaryy!!!12
Box: On the General Zombie's sideタララン「まさかあいつら
3人共」
Tallaran: Don't tell me
Tallaran: theyタララン「さっきの麦わらみてェに
あの壁に吸い込まれちまったのか!?
モーンキモンキー♪あっあっあっあっ
お前達も直にそうなる 」
Tallaran: Even the one just now who looked like the Strawhat
Tallaran: all three were captured and brought behind this wall!?
Tallaran: Mooonkey monkeeey ♪ ahhahhahhahha
Tallaran: It's gonna be the same procedure for you now!
GZ sfx: rattle.. rattle..GZ sfx: RATTLE
タララン「前も後ろも不死身のゾンビ!!観念しろ!!」
Tallaran: Behind and ahead are both immortal zombies!! Brace yourselves!!13
フランキー「アホグモだかアホザルだか知らねェが
島の入り口でサニー号を絡め捕ったでけェクモの巣はおめ ェの仕業だな」
Franky: Dunno if you're a dumbass spider or a dumbass monkey
Franky: but that huge spider web that got Sunny trapped at the entrance of the island, that was your deed!タララン「あっあっあっ!!お前達の行動など
ペローナ様のゴーストネットワークによって全て筒 抜けだ!!」
Tallaran: Ahhahhah!! All of your actions and so on
Tallaran: were revealed by Lady Perona's Ghost Network!!ロビン「―その大きな耳も情報力の一端かしら
よく聞こえそうな耳ね・・・」
Robin: And your big ears are probably pretty good for intelligence work too.
Robin: You seem to able to hear good with those ears, ne...タララン「え?・・・なに?」
Tallaran: Eh? ... Sorry?
フランキー「見せかけかよ!!!」
Franky: Are you pretending or what!!?ロビン「!」
Robin: !
フランキー「状況は最悪・・・!!八方塞がりとはこの事だ
早急な対策を要するが・・・・
おれに任せるか? 」
Franky: The situation is the worst...!! We're blocked in every direction.
Franky: We gotta do something quick...
Franky sfx: ka-ching
Franky: Will you leave it to me?ロビン「・・・お好きにどうぞ。対応してみるわ」
Robin: ... with pleasure. I'll try to conform with itフランキー「へへ・・・頼もしいじゃないの
じゃ、行く
ぞ"風・来・"・・・・」
Franky: Hehe... now isn't that promising?
Franky: Okay then, here we go
Franky: "Coup de"....15
フランキー「 砲!!!!! 」
Franky: "VENT"!!!
Tallaran: !!?
All: !!?タララン「んんんぬァアにィイイイ!!?
お前!!!渡り廊下をォオ~~~!!!」
Tallaran: Mmmnwwhhuuoooaaaattt!?!!
Tallaran: YOU!!! Broke the~!!!GZs: Whuu!!
GZs: !!!
Jigoroh: WHOOW!!!フランキー「―まァ、こういうわけだ」
Franky: See, THAT's how it's done
ロビン「乱暴な人ね」
Robin: You're a pretty rough one, neGZs: Gyaaaah
ロビン「百花繚乱!!」
Robin: "Cien fleur"!!15
Robin: "WING"!!!
Franky: Whow!?Franky: Wha...!!?
フランキー「お前・・・
空を飛べるのか!!?」
Franky: You...
Franky: can fly the sky!!?ロビン「5秒程」
Robin: Just five seconds..
フランキー「短ェ!!!」
Franky: SO SHORT!!!フランキー「いや だが充分だ・・・!!!」
Franky: But that's plenty of time...!!!
Franky sfx: ka-ching16
フランキー「ストロング右!!!」
Franky: "Strong Right"!!!
Franky: All right!!!フランキー「何とかあの入り口へ行けば
麦わらを追える」
Franky: If we got into that entrance somehow
Franky: we could go after Strawhatロビン「うっ・・・ごめんなさい、もうダメ・・・・!!」
Robin: Ugh.... I'm sorry, I can't anymore....!!
フランキー「ウオ!!戻れ腕っ!!!」
Franky: UWOH!! Arm, return!!!17
Franky: UGKHFranky: .........!!
Robin: ..............!!
(pant)
(pant)Robin: ... they all fell into the courtyard
Tallaran: ........
Robin: Although it probably won't be over by that
Robin: We're safe for now.Robin: Well done..
Franky: Asshole, you wench used me as a stepstone to jump up there!!Tallaran: .......!! Youuu...!!
Robin: !
Tallaran: I'm a spider!!
Tallaran: I'll come up there in no time!!18
Tallaran: Hm?GZs: ........ huh?
GZs: What's that!?Robin: !
ロビン「何!?あれは」
Robin: What is that?!Franky: Hm??
フランキー「空から何か・・・いや誰か!!!
降ってくる!!!」
Franky: From the sky something's... no, somebody!!!
Franky: Somebody's falling down!!!ボォ―――ン!!!
the big boney SFX: BOOOOOONE [<- in place of "DOOOON"]
ブルック「ボォ―――ン!!!骨だけに~~~~!!!!」
Brook: "Booooone"!!!
Brook: As expected from a skeleton!!来週終わり
End for this weekAnd if you want to use this for scanlation, please do so. Just give credit. I've left the japanese stuff in it so it's a bit easier for typesetters, is that okay? Or should I erase it instead…?
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I love Franky's fighting style so much~~!!
Happy happy happy. This chapter stands out above the others.
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Wow.. thank's alot Rockschmock!
That was such a good chapter.
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I was thinking back to how "FF" Ace thought that the Robin thing was a Trigun reference (which it probably isn't)…
And then I thought of "Angel Arm."
And this is an "Arm Angel."
...ha ha!
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Robins arms must be really light.
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Thanks rock for the full trans. It definitely clears a few things up.
I had thought that the dog penguin had lamented the weakness of his zombie body in the initial spoiler, but it wasn't mentioned in the spoiler script.
But now with the revisions: " Dogpen: … moreover, my body doesn't move the way I want!! .... this body is..... too weak....!!!"
So, we now have confirmation that while personality, skills, and techniques are translated to the zombie during the creation of a zombie by [insert theory here], physical strength is not.
This means that if zoro ever squares off against jigorou, it should be an easy fight in zoro's favor due to zoro's body having intense physical training while jigorou has just been dead for a while.
good to know.
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Thanks rock for the full trans. It definitely clears a few things up.
I had thought that the dog penguin had lamented the weakness of his zombie body in the initial spoiler, but it wasn't mentioned in the spoiler script.
But now with the revisions: " Dogpen: … moreover, my body doesn't move the way I want!! .... this body is..... too weak....!!!"
So, we now have confirmation that while personality, skills, and techniques are translated to the zombie during the creation of a zombie by [insert theory here], physical strength is not.
This means that if zoro ever squares off against jigorou, it should be an easy fight in zoro's favor due to zoro's body having intense physical training while jigorou has just been dead for a while.
good to know.
Ahh, but don't forget that the general zombies are different from regular zombies. I think it'll be a tough showdown all around.
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Robin: Well done..
Franky: Asshole, you wench used me as a stepstone to jump up there!!Haha. Sex is no bar. Franky is cool.
He's lucky Sanji wasn't thereThanks for the detailed trans m8.
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Thanks rock for the full trans. It definitely clears a few things up.
I had thought that the dog penguin had lamented the weakness of his zombie body in the initial spoiler, but it wasn't mentioned in the spoiler script.
But now with the revisions: " Dogpen: … moreover, my body doesn't move the way I want!! .... this body is..... too weak....!!!"
So, we now have confirmation that while personality, skills, and techniques are translated to the zombie during the creation of a zombie by [insert theory here], physical strength is not.
This means that if zoro ever squares off against jigorou, it should be an easy fight in zoro's favor due to zoro's body having intense physical training while jigorou has just been dead for a while.
good to know.
Yeah, I thought about it too.
But, I don't think the fact the body rotted is handicap. The body is still complete - That's enough for Oda to say he is in full strengh.
On another note, it was said Dogpen actually resisted too. I'm confused here. Does that mean Sanji is strong enough to cancel Moria's supposed control, or is it that the Mellorine Power [yay] is too strong for Moria's control?
If it's the 1st one, we are clear. Every single SH [other than maybe Team Useless] can oppose Moria's spiritual brainwashing.
If it's the later, we are in trouble. Zoro's dream will only drive him even more into fighting full strengh. And Luffy's only strong will currently is protecting his nakama along with his hat, both which are connected to his body and memories [<-stuff that don't move with personality]. -
I think it's implied that Sanji's personality took over the body of the Dogpen. So even if he's not willing to protect women, he can't help but do so. This part of Sanji's personality is probably so strong it even breaks the control Moria has over the zombies. If the traits of the others will have similar effects on their zombie counterparts is unclear. Though Ryuuma who has Brook's personality only struck Team Useless with the back of the sword, kind of protecting them too.
In any case Jigoroh is probably still super strong, no matter if he has Zoro's personality or not. Because he was a legendary old geezer!!!!
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Can a body with no shadow move? Or is Brook a special case because of his DF?
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After what Dogpen did. Would Sanji really refuse to kick even a rotting warthog corpse because it is female? Whoa, you gotta draw the line somewhere Sanji lol.
Also liked how Nami was drawn here. Seems Oda has changed from rounder noses to pointier ones.
So, we now have confirmation that while personality, skills, and techniques are translated to the zombie during the creation of a zombie by [insert theory here], physical strength is not.
Physical strenght should be transferred as well. The zombies did mention that he was a strong as the generals. I think its more of the physical body of his. Sanji's style is fighting with kicks and agility. Here we have a penguin who is little, practically has no legs, and not exactly the most agile animal on land. His body surely can't fully perform those skills.
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Well, the old man could move, so I'd assume so. Plus, the guy Brooke saw evaporate could move, too.
Something the penguin says bothers me… it's as if his shadow knows who it is...
Eh, you're right, Carter, it's probably not a Trigun reference... I just thought it would be neat if Oda did a tribute to the series that just ended and that did a tribute to him. Sorry if I offended you.
And Brooke just shits awesome. What a way to enter the end of the chapter except flying from the highest tower of a massive pirate ship and crashing to the ground, while yelling about his sound effect?
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Can a body with no shadow move? Or is Brook a special case because of his DF?
Oda has seemed to avoid the whole issue. If Brooke can still move even with Ryuma, then Sanji and Zoro should be out there as well moving about even with zombie psudo-doppelgangers. (with the threat of burning to a crisp if Thriller Bark leaves the fog bank and/or the Florian Triangle) But until we see that, Brooke could be considered a special case.
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Hell yes, Brooks back =)
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This chapter wins. It was freakin' great. I love Robin~<3! I love that she can only fly for 5 seconds. lol. Robin and Franky team up is pure pwnage too. And Absolom is better than ever.
Best part about the chapter was the ending though…Brooke is back.
Brooke=BigWin.
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@Rai:
Oh yay, pandaman spotted!
Page 9, right of 4th panel.
[qimg]http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2097/fqewfnl8.jpg[/qimg]
He's panicked and he has scars, I dunno if that's him. :\I thought that was Pandaman's grave we saw earlier. What manner of conspiracy is this? Either there's a tribe of Pandamen somewhere or he can even escape from his own death somehow.
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Even though Brooke came back….and in a funny way.....
Nami blasted the Shitnitz outta someone. YAY
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Brook seems like a weird guy (apart from him not having flesh) because the zombie that has his shadow uses a sword while there's no indication Brook has any type of blade on him at all. Dogpen and Jigoroh use Sanji and Zoro's fighting styles respectively.
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@Tokoro:
Oda has seemed to avoid the whole issue. If Brooke can still move even with Ryuma, then Sanji and Zoro should be out there as well moving about even with zombie psudo-doppelgangers. (with the threat of burning to a crisp if Thriller Bark leaves the fog bank and/or the Florian Triangle) But until we see that, Brooke could be considered a special case.
Well, the old man who had his shadow stolen was able to follow Luffy and the others… so yes.
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**He had his shadow stolen? I didn't notice.
But I guess that means the three of them are locked away somewhere. Question is where.**
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I'm so glad that Brook is back :) my guess is that he is going to fight in the next chapter,I do like the Franky and Robin fighting since i'm a FrankyxRobin fan,and Absalom kidnapping Nami and defected the DogPen
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**He had his shadow stolen? I didn't notice.
But I guess that means the three of them are locked away somewhere. Question is where.**
Yeah, that was the reason he asked them to defeat Moria.
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Not a whole lot of surprises this chapter, but it still made my day. The Lola and Absolom bits were hilarious! Robin's new attack and Brooke falling from the sky were completely unexpected.
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Physical strenght should be transferred as well. The zombies did mention that he was a strong as the generals. I think its more of the physical body of his. Sanji's style is fighting with kicks and agility. Here we have a penguin who is little, practically has no legs, and not exactly the most agile animal on land. His body surely can't fully perform those skills.
I think the point is that despite having little strength, low endurance, and tiny little legs, the amazing efficiency of power behind the fancy kicking techniques that sanji learned from Zeff is enough to make dogpeng fight at the level of the general zombies.
If you add sanji's strength to the equation, then the general zombies shouldn't be much of a threat (one on one anyways). This is a good thing because we can assume that absalom, perona, and some of the more interesting general zombies are going to be fighting well above the average GZ level as well.
@polygon: the way that I currently understand the situation is that the zombie gains the personality, mannerisms, morals, fighting techniques, and voice from whoever's shadow was stolen to create them. However, this does not mean that they lose whatever experiences that they have from their previous life.
So because Ryuma was a swordsman in his previous life, we don't have to assume that brooke is a swordsman in this one. A dogpenguin doesn't really have any fighting techniques left over from his previous life, so he only had sanji's to draw from. We should also expect Jigorou to have a couple of "old man" themed sword attacks. But since Zoro's attacks will likely be stronger, he should mostly stick to them.
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now that its set up this way a Franky / Robin / Brooke Triple team against Moria would be win on so many levels, while Nami Ussop and Chopper handle the rest.
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LOL awesome chapter!!!my fav part was when robin flew…and said that it was only for 5 seconds!!!
that dog-penguin seems to remind me of sanji!!! wonder if his sould got transfered to that thing!
waits for next chapter!
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@Tokoro:
Oda has seemed to avoid the whole issue. If Brooke can still move even with Ryuma, then Sanji and Zoro should be out there as well moving about even with zombie psudo-doppelgangers. (with the threat of burning to a crisp if Thriller Bark leaves the fog bank and/or the Florian Triangle) But until we see that, Brooke could be considered a special case.
Well Hogback and the others did show interest in their bounties so why would they allow them to wander around and cause trouble or possibly get vaporized before they can turn them in?
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"You are like a hurricane
There's calm in your eye.
And I'm gettin' blown away …"Hahah! Dog-pen's shadow wasn't stolen from Sanji, it was stolen from Neil Young! (Sorry, I couldn't resist)
Ahem.
Anyways ...Lola is giving me a strong Disney vibe. I can't quite place it, but something like a cross between a dancing hippo (from Fantasia), Clucky (from Robin Hood) and who knows what all else. She's got quite an arsenal at her disposal : Valkrye girdle armor, a huge axe, two lethal looking katana (oh, but I don't think those swords are Zoro's though -- the hilts are different) but still, I get this sinking feeling that -- ah, nevermind.
Cool "thunder charge" move from Nami! And I like her speech about how she "doesn't keep her body in shape just so perverted beasts can smugly peep" (nice alliteration) Her comment to Lola -- that Natli already mentioned -- is a lot of fun, too. And I'm in agreement with Natli about Robin's flying. I'm having a hard time buying it, even though it looks pretty on paper. Excellent image of the two of them where Franky does his Strong Right (great perspective on the round building)
Franky and Robin make a fun team. Good chemistry.Oh, for the person who wondered where Luffy, Sanji and Zoro went -- Taleran answers it on page 12 : "all three were captured and brought behind this wall". So it looks like it's safe to assume that Luffy's shadow is not inside Taleran after all, since Taleran appears to be talking about Luffy in the third person, not the first. It's probably also safe to assume that behind that wall are a lot of shadowless individuals who need saving. Good thing Robin and Franky (and Brook?) are headed that way.
boiga -- I like your idea about Brook's attempt to sabatoge Thriller Bark by messing with the mast/sail. My guess is he's trying to change the course of the ship. Or maybe he'll create a diversion by having the sail fall down upon the buildings beneath it?
And still no word from Moria. Hmm.
[thanks to BF and the translationmobile and all others who brought us this chapter. Cheers!]
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Robin's wings appear to be made of arms.
I never noticed that.
Extreme non-suck.
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robin's new technique + brook's return = a chapter worth reading
cant wait for next weeks chapter..B.F.M.
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Damn!!! brook's return, Combo robin and franky is awesome. Can't wait for this chapter to be anime'd and watch in TV… DAMN!!!
Also, the man who stole brook's shadow is none other than DONQUIXOTE DOFLAMINGO..(I think)
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I know it's a strange thought but do you folks ever thought that Absalom's powers may not be from DF? What if he's psychic?