@gaara - not sure if you read my post about BB's blackhole powers, but if a ship that the best shipwrights deemed unsailable can make one last voyage, what does that tell you!
@WHITEBEARD:
BB fought ace. Aokiji is above Ace. Aokiji is able to take a punch, Aokiji is a Big Timer. The fact that Aokiji can take hits also.
Aokiji has fearsome offensive as well as defense with out his DF.
@freedom I dont see how BB is over powered he is just balanced.
Alot of Big timers powers are balanced.
2 so far Smoker, Aokiji and now we can add BB to the list.
As I said before. It's a contradict to assume BB cannot absorb ice.
My point was not that Aokiji would fall like Ace did. You guys are so bent on titles and supremacy of the so-called "Big Timers" that you are beyond imagining any of them losing. I never even said BB would win over Aokiji. I simply stated that if they fought, the fight would be the same as it was with Ace. Ace could attack with fire but he couldn't rely on his logia powers for defense and had to start evading attacks. coupled with BB's vortex power, it put Ace in a tough spot. Any fight w/ BB will be like this, this is all I was saying.
The original point was in reference to BB having the most powerful DF displayed so far. And I was saying, Aokiji's would be the next closest b/c of what we've seen him do.
@WHITEBEARD - The reason I say BB is overpowered is simple. Even among logia's, he's an anomaly. We saw the confrontation w/ Smoker and Ace. Even amongst logia's, it's hard to attack the "true" form of the user. BB has this ability by default and doesn't have to worry about any "yet unknown and assumed" ability to harm logia's. The next biggest problem would be strong opponents with weapons, and we know he can also absorb bullets and blades. As I've said many times, a fight w/ BB is a fight on his terms. If this isn't an advantage, then I don't know what is. Imagine if the only way to fight Mihawk was with a sword, or the only way to fight WB was with a kwon do. As you're a pioneer for these characters, you'd laugh at anyone even mentioning them losing in their respective #1 field.
Another point I think is a bit mute is about the relative time it would take for character x to reach character y's level. IMO, BB is already a top tier fighter. That's my opinion, there's no need to debate it. However, there are two things that i'd like to point out.
- even though we may have to wait 2,3 or even 4 years till we see another confrontation of this caliber. In OP time, it will probably be 1 to 2 weeks that have passed.
- similar to how it would have made no sense for Ace to win against BB, likewise, I also believe it'd make no sense for WB to win against him. Again, this is my opinion, and you are free to disagree
@WHITEBEARD - response to stuff in bold.
No logia is balanced. All logia's are cheap. You can't hit them w/o a "device".