Chapter 440 "Fire Fist vs. Blackbeard" Discussion
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I am soooooo boooored.
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the possibility of Oda introducing a new character in the next chapter is also up there in the air….... we might see the strawhats potential/future new member next....... and then 200 chapters later...... join.....
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^ Possible.
Maybe they'll actually meet a Merman that is lost in the Triangle of Doom, and since the strawhats are going to Merman Island, they can give the guy/girl a ride.
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i would prefer a mermaid…..... since they need another female in the group.....
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I would also perfer a mermaid. Because we're all pretty sure the last member to join will be a male musician.
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Well, here's a question. What do you think will make Blackbeards darkness fruit different? I mean, logias are kind of the same, aren't they (hence the disappoint mean I think)? I mean, there are differences, but that's not the point of this post (I think that each logias abilities with be fleshed out later).
If Blackbeard is going to be a big character, he needs something unique. What can darkness do? What it will just boost some sort of fighting style with cool darkness graphics. With good art it could be amazing.
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Oda appears to have used screentones for Blackbeard's ability. I've known since chapter 1 that he HATES screentones. So Blackbeard's ability must be a) a very special fruit or implies that he will be THE main villain or b) he will be the first character to regularly use screentones, as Oda might actually be using them from now on. I seriously hope it's the former or neither at all, and he's cool enough to just imitate screentones.
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Crocodile needed screentones too if I remember correctly.
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I dunno…
I'm starting to think that Blackbeard is shaping up to be a pretty good potential villain in the not too distant future.
Despite him giving out lots of info on him I think the biggest hint is that his crew is still no match for Ace (in Blackbeard's own words) so that means they couldn't compare to some of the badasses awaiting further down the line.
Maybe not directly next, but soon after? Maaaaaybe.
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Blackbeard's crew is not different from Luffy's; in both cases, the captain is the only one able to take on high level opponents. The strawhats were helpless against Crocodile, Enel and Lucci, and that's a pattern we'll see again in the future: Luffy will fight a Shichibukai, Admiral or Emperor and Zoro, Sanji and the others will have to deal with the subordinates.
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Blackbeard's crew is not different from Luffy's; in both cases, the captain is the only one able to take on high level opponents. The strawhats were helpless against Crocodile, Enel and Lucci, and that's a pattern we'll see again in the future: Luffy will fight a Shichibukai, Admiral or Emperor and Zoro, Sanji and the others will have to deal with the subordinates.
Well yeah, I agree with that. But by Blackbeard acknowledging that his crew isn't on the same level as Ace, well that instantly suggests that our heroes may soon be (or perhaps already are) in the same league as them.
Now…obviously we haven't seen anything AMAZING that they can accomplish besides the Mr. Von Dude taking out birds from a sick distance. As far as Jesus, lifting a wooden house? Erm....yeah okay....Arlong could do that.
So anyway, my point is not that Luffy could take on them, my point is that his crew may soon be able to.
I dunno, with him aiming to go directly for Luffy…yeah. It may be an arc or two but they seem quite close.
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Well yeah, I agree with that. But by Blackbeard acknowledging that his crew isn't on the same level as Ace, well that instantly suggests that our heroes may soon be (or perhaps already are) in the same league as them.
Now…obviously we haven't seen anything AMAZING that they can accomplish besides the Mr. Von Dude taking out birds from a sick distance. As far as Jesus, lifting a wooden house? Erm....yeah okay....Arlong could do that.
So anyway, my point is not that Luffy could take on them, my point is that his crew may soon be able to.
I dunno, with him aiming to go directly for Luffy…yeah. It may be an arc or two but they seem quite close.
Where were you when we were originally discussing this. Aldrich and I and a few others were saying the SH crew were potentially in the same league as the BB crew with the exception of BB himself.
This is completely unrelated but i had this crazy theory that after the gyojin island, luffy and crew will meet up with shanks, and shanks will either fight or train zoro. similarly, yasopp will train usopp.
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Where were you when we were originally discussing this
Probably waiting for the chapter to be released in print in Japan as I always do.
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This is completely unrelated but i had this crazy theory that after the gyojin island, luffy and crew will meet up with shanks, and shanks will either fight or train zoro. similarly, yasopp will train usopp.
Thats a cool idea,i´d be happy if that happened(but i think that SH´s are going to be too busy to meet with Shanks,but who knows?)
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anything is possible with oda at the helm
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too busy to meet with Shanks? what do you mean by that?
I bet Luffy will always be happy at the idea to meet with Shanks…. or something like that....
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Hmm, training in One Piece. If that happens you can scratch that off the list of "Shonen Cliches Oda does not use."
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You know what this has been said again and again,the way too big bounty of Luffy in Water 7 can be explained by the fact that they are doing it to make the bounties even. Because they will have to make a big Zoro bounty after he defeats Mihawk.That compels me to think that the person to defeat Don Flammingo, with his wit would be Sanji as he alone can defeat him with the Ordeal of Love.
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i don't know what people are talking about now…......
probably Oda didn't even wonder about that..... because it would be obvious to raise the bounty inline with what the Strawhats has done in Enies Lobby.... I doubt it id because of future events.......next week better come fast, because some people alread have meltdowns!
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i don't know what people are talking about now…......
probably Oda didn't even wonder about that..... because it would be obvious to raise the bounty inline with what the Strawhats has done in Enies Lobby.... I doubt it id because of future events.......next week better come fast, because some people alread have meltdowns!
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You know what this has been said again and again,the way too big bounty of Luffy in Water 7 can be explained by the fact that they are doing it to make the bounties even. Because they will have to make a big Zoro bounty after he defeats Mihawk.That compels me to think that the person to defeat Don Flammingo, with his wit would be Sanji as he alone can defeat him with the Ordeal of Love.
Nah, I think that it's just cause Luffy is the captain. He'll always get a little credit for his crews actions.
Look at Broggy and Dorry. They both have 100 million bounties, yet got beat by people with less than a 40 million bounty (Mr. 5 stopping Broggy after breaking lose from Mr. 3).
While it could be attributed to different times (which it may or may not be, Roge r may have been alive when Boggy and Dorry were pirates), but I think part of Broggy and Dorry's bounties were part of their crews actions.
Remember, this crew of giants "terrorizes the seas" before suddenly stopping. That's probably why "threat level" factors into bounties.
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@ultimateclima:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o200/peacewar2/nuclearwar.jpg
Indeed. Just as I have planned.:devil:
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next week better come fast, because some people alread have meltdowns!
Whaat? There was no chapter last week and no chapter this week? :wassat:
I really have to start paying attention more to the chapter topics..
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UPRC's avatar is funny… lol....
ok, the countdown is on..... about 6 day to go before anything about a new chapter will come or something ..... hopefully, those who didn't survive this will not feel the pain........
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I think it is going to be released on 15th.I heard in Kaizoku forums.In any case Battle Franky might not be able to post spoilers this time.He said so.
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doesn't matter who posts it….. as long as there is something....... or anything...... or whatever......
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We have to wait so long, because we got the last OP-scans (from Jump #6-#7 (remember, double issue)) so early (on the 28th december). OFFICIALLY Jump #6-#7 should be out the 6th of January, so don't complain too much Oo" We could've been happy, that we got the scans so damn early.
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What is the official date for the next release and any indication who will release the spoilers.Damn I cant wait anymore.
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UPRC's avatar is funny… lol....
ok, the countdown is on..... about 6 day to go before anything about a new chapter will come or something ..... hopefully, those who didn't survive this will not feel the pain........
UPRC's avatar is very hilarious!!
anyways 5 days to go before new chapter! -
These bastard waits would be so much easier if we have NULL and ADC releasing at full strength. As it is, they're bastard waits i quoth.
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I had one more theory.It might be that the new world order i.e Don Flammingo comes and defeats Ace & Blackbeard next chapter.Since all of them are dreamers, so, they will join hands together with luffy to destroy Don, whom no one single handedly can destroy.
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Hmm, training in One Piece. If that happens you can scratch that off the list of "Shonen Cliches Oda does not use."
is that sarcasm, or are you implying Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were born fighters!
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too busy to meet with Shanks? what do you mean by that?
I bet Luffy will always be happy at the idea to meet with Shanks…. or something like that....
i meant they have lots of things to do(their adventures) and i don´t thing thy´re going to meet Shanks that way(and Shanks is busy,too i think)
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is that sarcasm, or are you implying Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were born fighters!
Honestly, I have no idea. I was really sleepy when I typed that.
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is that sarcasm, or are you implying Luffy, Zoro and Sanji were born fighters!
Well, I'm starting to doubt that we'll see any serious training in One Piece. At least, any chapters that focus on it. Just Zoro, and again, that gets not big focus. I'm content with the idea that the Strawhats get stronger through:
1. Exercise off screen, during the time they spend on the boat.
2. Through fighting experience.
My guess is that, any training will occur when a Strawhat needs to learn a really out there ability. Even the upgrades that each SH got fit into the realm of their skills.
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i meant they have lots of things to do(their adventures) and i don´t thing thy´re going to meet Shanks that way(and Shanks is busy,too i think)
of course Luffy would like to mmeet Shanks^^…Luffy intends to meet up with Shanks. Shanks definitely isn't busy. So far, we've been introduced to him drinking on an island in East Blue, where he spent who knows how long. Then we see him drinking on another island when Mihawk tells him he's not interested in fighting. And last, we saw him drinking on an island waiting for Rockstar to report in. Wonder if he can find some time out of his drinking schedule?
@gaara:Honestly, I have no idea. I was really sleepy when I typed that.
Well, I'm starting to doubt that we'll see any serious training in One Piece. At least, any chapters that focus on it. Just Zoro, and again, that gets not big focus. I'm content with the idea that the Strawhats get stronger through:
1. Exercise off screen, during the time they spend on the boat.
2. Through fighting experience.
My guess is that, any training will occur when a Strawhat needs to learn a really out there ability. Even the upgrades that each SH got fit into the realm of their skills.
Yeah, i'm not expecting an entire story based on "training", but i expect Luffy to meet up with Shanks now that the SHs will be entering the New World, since this is emperor territory. Shanks being Mihawk's rival, and Luffy's mentor, and betting on a new era kinda leads me to believe that he wants to help Luffy become the PK. I don't think it's so farfetched for him to give Zoro or perhaps the entire SH crew some tips to boost their arsenal.
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five days till spoiler chapter 441
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I hope it won't be about the Ace and Blackbeard fight….
but it would be a surprise if it is.......
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I hope it won't be about the Ace and Blackbeard fight….
but it would be a surprise if it is.......
You kidding? Do you know how much blood would be spilled if the Ace and Blackbeard fight wasn't continued in some way after this? Blackbeard's fruit created a cliffhanger.
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I think next week will be Whitebeard vs Shanks.
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You kidding? Do you know how much blood would be spilled if the Ace and Blackbeard fight wasn't continued in some way after this? Blackbeard's fruit created a cliffhanger.
I would rather let the blood spill….... and I am not kidding......
Assuming I am right about it, that means Oda is going to make a story out of it in a future arc......
Assuming I am wrong, well, I will be surprise if we get to see the fight......
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I'm really hoping for at least the conclusion of the fight. i don't even care about BB's DF powers right now. Or if we will be forced to wait, WB vs Shanks is a good replacement, though i'd definitely be more interested in some more reactions to Luffy's bounty. DoFlamingo, Kuma (especially, b/c he's become a slight underdog to Luffy now), Buggy (i'm sure a ton of us want to know his reaction, or maybe it's only me).
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interested in some more reactions to Luffy's bounty. DoFlamingo, Kuma (especially, b/c he's become a slight underdog to Luffy now), Buggy (i'm sure a ton of us want to know his reaction, or maybe it's only me).
Kuma the Bible Bear an under dog to Luffy?????
I dont think so since Bible Bear bounty is a frozen bounty.
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Kuma the Bible Bear an under dog to Luffy?????
I dont think so since Bible Bear bounty is a frozen bounty.
sometimes i wonder if you have any foresight, no offense.
Kuma is introduced almost as a secondary character to DoFlamingo. DoFlamingo is then given a little development when he's playing with the marines, and later we get to see some more of him when he makes Sarquiss "kill" Bellamy. We know he's pioneering for the "new" era w/o dreams. What do we know about Kuma (he reads his bible). Now, yes he's a shichibukai, and i expect him to be strong and worthy of the title, but there's been no development thrown his way. I doubt Luffy (SHs) will face all Shichibukai, and i think he's a prime candidate for sitting in the backseat. Just my take on things. -
sometimes i wonder if you have any foresight, no offense.
Kuma is introduced almost as a secondary character to DoFlamingo. DoFlamingo is then given a little development when he's playing with the marines, and later we get to see some more of him when he makes Sarquiss "kill" Bellamy. We know he's pioneering for the "new" era w/o dreams. What do we know about Kuma (he reads his bible). Now, yes he's a shichibukai, and i expect him to be strong and worthy of the title, but there's been no development thrown his way. I doubt Luffy (SHs) will face all Shichibukai, and i think he's a prime candidate for sitting in the backseat. Just my take on things.That explain how Kuma is an underdog to Luffy how?????
and I have alot of foresight, just to let you know. lets not forget that Kuma was not impressed with Donflamingo's tiny bit of power displayed, or Donflamingo threating to attack Sengoku.
let me throw a little of my foresight your way, Donflamingo and Blackbeard are not going to like each other.
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Maybe Ace will die in the next chapter. I know people don't die often in OP, but we always saw Luffy go "You hurt my nakama, now I'll send you flying" mode. We never saw him really lose anything that is important to him(except Merry, but the ship just died, no one killed it). We saw what he gets like when someone even touches his hat without his permission, I wonder what he'll do if someone kills his brother.
Oh yeah, and I have come up with an idea what BB DF power could be like, I found this when searching for some ghost stories:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_peopleBB power could be based on Shadow people.
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Speaking of frozen bounties…
You know, just cause Croc's bounty was raised doesn't necessarily mean that all the shichibukai bounty's are wrong. At least, not until an SBS specifies it or something.
Oda probably adding the "Croc would be 160 million" clause so that he wouldn't look so weak compared to the other shichibukai. Back at Whiskey Peak 80 million was the highest bounty we had yet seen.
And with that, I'm doubting that Kuma will fight Luffy. He was introduced at the same time as a man with a higher bounty, so he has kind of a secondary feel to him. Odds are, he'll do something else.
I mean, if Kuma gets an arc to star in, won't most of us just be thinking of Domflamingo the whole time?
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Speaking of frozen bounties…
You know, just cause Croc's bounty was raised doesn't necessarily mean that all the shichibukai bounty's are wrong. At least, not until an SBS specifies it or something.Well I dont care if kuma fights luffy or not, that dont make Kuma an underdog to Luffy.
Let me ask you this do you know what a frozen bounty is ?????
If the 7 gods bounty were not frozen and if they were not allies to the WG there bountys would be alot higher then they are now.
and can you post up that SBS I never seen/read it be4.
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I get the feeling Ace won't die, he gave luffy that paper to ensure that those two would meet again, things that get promised tend to happen in one piece.
People also tend not to die in one piece, so with that evidence, Ace's death seems improbable.
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that and Oda's principle of not killing important named characters….........