Wish was probably one of the most generic, unengaging films I've ever seen in the cinema. Not even entertainingly bad or anything, just absolutely unremarkable and uninteresting in every way. "Feels like it was written by A.I." really is the most apt description, sad as it is.
Disney animation thread
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I just asked AI to write me a song about wishes and looking up at the stars, and to include the line "So I look up at the stars to guide me," and I think it delivered a better result. If nothing else, it didn't rhyme "me" with "me."
Beneath the velvet cloak of night,
Where dreams take flight, where hopes ignite,
We lift our gaze, our souls take flight,
To dance among the stars so bright.(Chorus)
Wishes whisper in the night,
Like shooting stars, they take their flight.
So I look up at the stars to guide me,
As I wander through the night so free.(Verse 2)
In the quiet of the midnight air,
We cast our dreams without a care,
Each wish a spark, a silent prayer,
That we hold close, with love to share.(Chorus)
(Bridge)
Though the world may seem so vast,
In the darkness, shadows cast,
We find solace in the sky,
Where dreams and stars will never die.(Chorus)
(Outro)
So let us dream, and let us dare,
To chase our wishes, everywhere.
For in the darkness, we'll find our way,
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At least AI was able to make full rhymes instead of using continuous slant rhymes, like...
"There's no other place just as full of surprise
Where your dreams and your reality can collide""With lightning for hands and eyes that can glow
No, no, no, I'm totally kidding! But he is powerful""Ooh and hey, did I mention when you turn 18
You get to give your wish in a ceremony"And that's all from just one song.
Also, to be clear, the songwriting was done by Julia Michaels, Benjamin Rice, and JP Saxe, who all have mainly written pop music songs, as opposed to musical theater songs that Disney is generally known for. Which is to say, there is still a non-zero chance that AI may have been implemented.
And the lamb lies down on Broadway
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Saw a reaction of this film and they highlighted this quote from a Wish song.
Ooh, I'm a star!
Watch out world here I areYeah, can’t see AI doing a grammatical error like that unless the algorithm was messed up. Makes me all the sadder for whoever did write the lyrics.
Also feel bad for Chris Pine. He seems like a solid actor, but a lot of what he touches just bombs (not saying Wish didn’t deserve it in this instance, just noticed Pine’s movie list and felt bummed). This, the Dreamworks film Rise of the Guardians, Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves…Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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@Gizmo said in Disney animation thread:
Ooh, I'm a star!
Watch out world here I areThey briefly got I.R. Baboon to contribute to the lyrics.
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@Gizmo said in Disney animation thread:
Also feel bad for Chris Pine. He seems like a solid actor, but a lot of what he touches just bombs (not saying Wish didn’t deserve it in this instance, just noticed Pine’s movie list and felt bummed). This, the Dreamworks film Rise of the Guardians, Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves…
He and Cara Delevingne should make a movie together.
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@Nobodyman said in Disney animation thread:
Also, to be clear, the songwriting was done by Julia Michaels, Benjamin Rice, and JP Saxe, who all have mainly written pop music songs, as opposed to musical theater songs that Disney is generally known for. Which is to say, there is still a non-zero chance that AI may have been implemented.
They have all of Broadway at their beck and call, and they chose POP? No wonder this movie was a flop.
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@Gizmo said in Disney animation thread:
Also feel bad for Chris Pine. He seems like a solid actor, but a lot of what he touches just bombs (not saying Wish didn’t deserve it in this instance, just noticed Pine’s movie list and felt bummed). This, the Dreamworks film Rise of the Guardians, Dungeons and Dragons Honor Among Thieves…
Dungeons and Dragons was well liked by anyone that actually saw it, but it had terrible advertising, had to fight with the reputation the previous D&D movie earned of being super awful, and was up against Mario. It could have and should have done better.
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@Satsuki said in Disney animation thread:
@Nobodyman said in Disney animation thread:
Also, to be clear, the songwriting was done by Julia Michaels, Benjamin Rice, and JP Saxe, who all have mainly written pop music songs, as opposed to musical theater songs that Disney is generally known for. Which is to say, there is still a non-zero chance that AI may have been implemented.
They have all of Broadway at their beck and call, and they chose POP? No wonder this movie was a flop.
Using pop is fine. It's worked for them before. Roger Miller for Robin Hood, Huey Lewis, Billy Joel and Barry Manilow in Oliver, Elton John for Lion King, Phil Collins for Tarzan. The Last Unicorn had the band America do it soundtrack. Highlander got Queen.
The trick there is they got actual big names, full blown musicians. Here they just the ghostwriters for other people who have worked with a bunch of singers and you can't tell because they're super generic and have no signature.
If they'd gotten Adelle or Taylor Swift or Adam Lambert or something , even a obscure lesser name that no one knows like I dunno, Walk the Moon, they would have been fine. Heck, they could have gotten Jim Steinman before he died and that would have been amazing.
The problem here is they got a bunch of fill ins and told them to turn in something like Lin Manuel Miranda and they are just not him.
Because that opening number was 1000% trying to be the opening of Encanto, complete with the self deprecation and asides, and it just was not.
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@Robby said in Disney animation thread:
The trick there is they got actual big names, full blown musicians. Here they just the ghostwriters for other people who have worked with a bunch of singers and you can't tell because they're super generic and have no signature.
Should've gotten Michael Bublé.
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So apparently Disney edited A Goofy Movie for the steaming version and most recent bluray.
I never in my life noticed Max shoving his nose into Roxanne's chest or being handsy with the secretary.... and now I will never not see it.
Much like the SFX in Lion King.
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A storyboard animatic of the original Owl House pilot recently dropped on Youtube. There are some pretty significant differences, most notably the early appearance of Amity and Lilith. Fun to imagine how the show would've played out if they'd stuck closer to the original script.
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Honestly the visuals look pretty awesome. Curious how this film does given it’s a prequel but an OG story and not just a remake.
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Oh, so THIS why they didn't have Lin Manuel working on WISH and had to go with the dollar store copies.
Well, since it's not just tainting an already perfect movie and is actually going to be original, this has a shot at being... something. Even if just from the trailer they're clearly mirroring way more things from LK than they really need to. Like WHY is there a warthog and meerkat in there.
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Wait, Seth Rogan and Billy Eichner? That's just straight up actual Timon and Pumbaa. Donald Glover was Simba... I thought this was supposed to be a prequel?
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There’s a summary out there. The premise is Simba’s daughter is told the story of Mufasa.
The prequel about the rise of one of the greatest kings of the Pride Lands, goes back to the African savannah where Rafiki tells Kiara—daughter of Simba and Nala—the story of her grandfather while Timon and Pumbaa add color commentary.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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Oh wow, that sounds like a complete mess waiting to happen.
Trying to pull a Godfather 2 is quite a tightrope act.
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With Timon and Pumbaa present I thought this might be kind of a Lion King 1 and 1/2 situation, but...yeah, wow.
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@Robby said in Disney animation thread:
Oh, so THIS why they didn't have Lin Manuel working on WISH and had to go with the dollar store copies.
Well, since it's not just tainting an already perfect movie and is actually going to be original, this has a shot at being... something. Even if just from the trailer they're clearly mirroring way more things from LK than they really need to. Like WHY is there a warthog and meerkat in there.
Because Lion King 1 1/2 can’t be the only movie to have them
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@Gizmo said in Disney animation thread:
There’s a summary out there. The premise is Simba’s daughter is told the story of Mufasa.
The prequel about the rise of one of the greatest kings of the Pride Lands, goes back to the African savannah where Rafiki tells Kiara—daughter of Simba and Nala—the story of her grandfather while Timon and Pumbaa add color commentary.
If that's how they're doing it then I REALLY don't care to see it.
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Iono, telling Simba’s daughter as a framing device isn’t the worst concept. I am thinking it being more just having the present day being a framing device than actually having a major parallel story occur in the present day kinda like the Belle Christmas Special, but we’ll see. From an actor’s perspective I get wanting to come back for a check/for the franchise but dunno why anyone else would choose to frame the story this way.
I’m just not onboard with the Timon and Pumbaa adding comments. Even if it’s meant to be a homage to Lion King 1 1/2…still, no thank you.
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Yeah but they have Timon and Pumbaa in an action shot. That's not just sitting on the sidelines making jokes.
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Sadly from the “colorful comments” description, I’m betting that particular shot is Timon and Pumbaa telling a false retelling of the Lion King with them as the main characters and not actually an event that happened. But again, could very well be wrong.
Which if that is the case makes me much less excited about the film given there could be “humor” like that in it btw, so I’m hoping I’m not right. But that seems much more likely than the two actually fighting a lion at some point.
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There Disney, was it really that hard?
Honestly having nods to villain songs would have made such a good tribute to Disney like Wish was supposed to be
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Fans do it better half the time.
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That sure is a lot of "we don't want to show anything" and "we don't have the original songwriter back so we're not going to showcase the songs"
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It's got Hei Hei. That's all that matters.
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Guys is X-Men evolution worth watching?
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@Shiebs Yes. Better than the '92 one. But it has it's weird choices, they go to Xavier school to go to another school...
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@Shiebs said in Disney animation thread:
Guys is X-Men evolution worth watching?
I remember it being pretty solid but I haven't watched it since it was on tv so it's been a while.
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@pariston_hill said in Disney animation thread:
@Shiebs Yes. Better than the '92 one. But it has it's weird choices, they go to Xavier school to go to another school...
Now that you mention it. That was weird.
Though I could at least see the logic of them going to one school for normal purposes and going to the Academy to learn how to train their powers as the former would remove some of the moral ambiguity that’s always been prevalent with the X-Men turning young mutants into potential soldiers.
But I don’t recall if that was how it was established.
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In practice is like you said, which I think works far better than have Logan teach about history.
But I also think that at least in universe it would raise eyes from the Dept. of Education, like this kids are enrolled into Xavier's academy but they are also enrolled into public school?! -
My biggest memory of the Evolution show is just that Goth Rogue is peak. That's about all.
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If this track is a sign of what to expect from the album, count me in.
Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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I’ve been watching X-Men evolution and I really like what they’ve done with the brotherhood of evil mutants
This is a good article about how they made a c list character into a fan favorite on the show
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Cute, but looks like they're re-using a little too much, and I don't just mean the Kakamoras. And leave the pig, for pete's sake.
@Gizmo said in Disney animation thread:
If this track is a sign of what to expect from the album, count me in.
Dunno how I missed this, but dang that's awesome. The only thing it's missing is the amazing female co-singer that ended the original.
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Originally Posted by Nightwing
Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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Disney: We only do sequels and remakes now because original ideas scare the shit out of us.
Also, The Lion King vs. Kimba, the long-awaited showdown.
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@Gizmo said in Disney animation thread:
The dwarves' house looks amazing and the atmosphere is great, but good GOD the dwarves look bad.
I'm not going to bother watching the Mufasa trailer.
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Thanks, I hate it.
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Do they actually have facial expressions this time? What a novel concept!
Also they're fighting a bunch of white lions? Time to have that long awaited showdown with Kimba to prove who is the true king.
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@Satsuki said in Disney animation thread:
I'm not going to bother watching the Mufasa trailer.
Completely different team working on it. It looks like its maybe going to be okay? Actually have something to say?
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Pretty much.
Really the only thing I liked in this trailer was the atmosphere and the background/set designs.
