This is what it's like to be trans in a world that constantly wants to strip you of your HRT, your surgeries, your gender marker, your name, your clothes, and any ability to just be yourself.
The end of the Krakoa era reminds me a lot of how I will often tell people that deadnaming, misgender, and gatekeeping transition healthcare and the ability to socialize as your actual gender is, in fact, just as bad as calling me a slur, if not infinitely worse.
She/Her
@JulieYBM
I saw a post on r/xmen in the same tune. Given how the position of minorities worldwide is precarious the way and the bleakness of ending Krakoa is very unsettling.
At the same time Krakoa haters are jumping on to regurgitate liberal talking points about fight for civil rights and Imperial Core anti-decolonial messages.
@pariston_hill said in Western Comics thread:
@JulieYBM
I saw a post on r/xmen in the same tune. Given how the position of minorities worldwide is precarious the way and the bleakness of ending Krakoa is very unsettling.At the same time Krakoa haters are jumping on to regurgitate liberal talking points about fight for civil rights and Imperial Core anti-decolonial messages.
Yeah, it drives me absolutely bonkers, because the arts aren't just there to talk about our feelings and not change things, they're there to inspire change. We need works of art to remind us how the powerful should act and use their power to improve the lives of the oppressed. The X-Men are literally queer minorities (and other types of minorities) who have some semblance of power, and that power properly for their minority community.
Honestly, I wish the X-Men were more textually queer to hammer this point home. Already already knows Logan is fuckin' Scott, just make it text, not subtext.
Well I was told there was supposed to be more than one Krakoan Age unless that was a lie.
Like Magneto not be able to be resurrected.
So someone decided to pull one final act of betrayal huh?
@pariston_hill said in Western Comics thread:
Just look how not hard it was to build from the fall of Krakoa something good instead of back to square zero
Who is Emmatalkscomics ?
@Shiebs a twitter user.
@pariston_hill said in Western Comics thread:
@Shiebs a twitter user.
Well obviously but it made it sound like she’s writing the comics in that tweet and I was wondering if she’s a Marvel comics writer or am I missing something
How long does it usually take for Hardcover’s to come out after a series is finished? I really want Marvel G.O.D.S by Jonathan Hickman in hardcover since I read that they have extra material in that version that aren’t in the singular issues
The last issue of that comes out in May, how long do you think it will take for the hardcover collected addition to come out?
Also is it the hardcover or just any collected addition? Here’s where I heard about this in the first place
https://screenrant.com/jonathan-hickman-gods-hardcover-unreleased-material-marvel/
Apparently, Marvel will no longer be releasing books in hardcover, the only exceptions being omnibuses and masterworks. Even event comics like Blood Hunt and Fall/Rise of Hoxpox are only being released in paperback.
The GODS paperback is being released in August: https://www.amazon.com/G-D-S-Jonathan-Hickman/dp/1302948598/
@Kaiolino said in Western Comics thread:
Apparently, Marvel will no longer be releasing books in hardcover, the only exceptions being omnibuses and masterworks. Even event comics like Blood Hunt and Fall/Rise of Hoxpox are only being released in paperback.
The GODS paperback is being released in August: https://www.amazon.com/G-D-S-Jonathan-Hickman/dp/1302948598/
Thank you for the response
I assume they will include the extra material in the paper back version too then, at least I hope they do, that’s the only reason I haven’t been buying the single issues of G.O.D.S
https://www.gamesradar.com/phoenix-x-men-relaunch-jean-grey/
New era same old shit.
Am I the only one actually excited for the new x-men team members Bronze, Axo and Melee in the exceptional x-men series
I don’t know why but I love it when they try making new characters, even if it almost never sticks
@Shiebs
Yes.
Jean Grey is the Phoenix again? What a new and fresh idea!
@Robby said in Western Comics thread:
Jean Grey is the Phoenix again? What a new and fresh idea!
I know right ? such innovation and originality.
Next thing you know six of Spider-Man’s rogues gallery are going to get together to wreak havoc on him.
Thanos is going to gather up the infinity stones
And Kingpin is going to threaten Daredevil.
Never before seen adventures and conflicts.
@Time-Control-Magician said in Western Comics thread:
Thanos is going to gather up the infinity stones
Was the last time in comics it occurred wasn't during Civil War II? Cosmic Marvel ain't my forte...
Don’t forget Eddie Brock becoming venom again
Which they said they would never do again
But I’m pretty sure they said the same thing about Jean Grey becoming the phoenix
Like, I realize that the average time a person reads comics is about 5 years, (or at least it used to be... I imagine nowadays its mostly old fans rather than new ones jumping in, given modern price points and only being in specialty stores) so it used to be perfectly fine to reset status quos and reuse stories and villains every few years... because almost no one in the audience would know.
But come on, the Phoenix Saga was before I was even born,,, WHY is that the one well that has to keep going back to?
It's all because later editorial wimped out and retconned the slate clean to bring Jean back instead of just letting her stay dead.
It's kind of like how it's just REQUIRED for a Teen Titans group to have a traitor in the group after Terra. Every new long running version of the group without fail has one of them working for some villain or another and it's just... why are you writing stories if all you want to do is to regurgitate what you already saw from the same story? If you're going to borrow things you liked at least borrow from a wholly different title so there's at least a chance it'll be new this group.
Jean-as-Phoenix sounds liek they're just doing the Silver Surfer thing with her though. And that's never... gone great.
@pariston_hill said in Western Comics thread:
Was the last time in comics it occurred wasn't during Civil War II? Cosmic Marvel ain't my forte...
I don’t think since the original Infinity saga. Technically he intended to do it Infinity Wars a few years back but he got killed again before he could even start.
They are doing a "What if Donald Duck was Wolverine" don't expect much marvelous creativity from them.
And Jean, Rachel and Hope are getting resurrected/powered up by the Phoenix during this end of run.
Jean Grey was last the Phoenix in 2003 (some minis and cameos aside that not even marvel writers want to acknowledge). Since then we’ve had the Stepford Cuckoos, Quentin Quire, Hope, Cyclops, Colossus, Namor, Magik, Emma Frost, Wolverine-From-The-Future (not to be confused with Old Man Logan) and Echo as the Phoenix (Echo even had her own Phoenix miniseries). “The Phoenix Host” has lost all meaning, but that also makes Jean as the Phoenix again kind of novel.
Anyway, I’m glad she’s fucked off to space, because she’s been exclusively written as little miss perfect, omega level powerful, ultra empathy from the moment she returned from the dead 6 years ago. Like, not a single memorable moment that isn’t her speechifying or doing a feat.
@Kaiolino said in Western Comics thread:
Jean Grey was last the Phoenix in 2003 (some minis and cameos aside that not even marvel writers want to acknowledge). Since then we’ve had the Stepford Cuckoos, Quentin Quire, Hope, Cyclops, Colossus, Namor, Magik, Emma Frost, Wolverine-From-The-Future (not to be confused with Old Man Logan) and Echo as the Phoenix
Thane for some weird as hell reason.
Saw this floating around, hope it's fake
Killing her wasn’t really the problem it was the ass pulls and circumstances leading to said death.
You kill a character in a book they’re a guest star in to avoid killing off another character whose apart of said book.
Be queer
Deciced that perhaps a good way to avoid being harmed is to form your own nation.
Form your own nation
Cishet Nerds complain that the queers have their own nation
Queer nation gets blown the fuck up
Cishet nerds rejoice
:(
I cracked, I was waiting to read Marvel G.O.D.S when it came out in paper back to read it all at one time and see the bonus material they said would only be included in the collected paper back form
But I couldn’t sleep last night and decided to read all the issues that are out right now on my Marvel Unlimited app
I am a weak man
Damn, this just sounds baaaaaaad lol
Someone fire Brevoort, not from his job sense more like tie him to a 19th cannon and fire it.
Didn’t learn from Bishop & Cyclops huh?
I’ve never read anything X-Men related with Mister Sinister in it pre Krakoan era
If I want to get up to date with the character what do I need to read/know?
Because I’ve hear rumors they want to use him in the MCU and I find his character, from what I’ve read in Hickman’s era, very entertaining
@Shiebs said in Western Comics thread:
I’ve never read anything X-Men related with Mister Sinister in it pre Krakoan era
If I want to get up to date with the character what do I need to read/know?
Super campy. Does horrific science experiments. Been around for over a century. All you need to know.
He has a more detailed backstory than that and has appeared in a lot of stories but that's really all there is. His entertainment value will vary based on how much the writer understands the assignment and embraces the camp.
Also that he and Gambit were both originally supposed to be creations of a 12 year old with powers making up fake creations that he, a 12 year old, thought were the epitome of cool.... But the audience unironically thought the super generic characters with the dumbest names possible were in fact super cool so those plans got scrapped and the characters stuck around.
If you really want to hunt down specific stories, the original Inferno is Sinister’s first big moment.
Kieron Gillen’s Uncanny X-Men is what re-envisioned Sinister as more over the top, and that's supposed to be pretty good. That’s Uncanny X-Men (2011).
But that's post One More Day so I haven't actually read it, just seen bits and pieces.
Man, they dropped the ball on Spiderman so hard I haven't bought ANY ongoing Marvel books in 15 years, when I used to get a ton, that was just such a massive hard cutoff point for me. (And then DC lost me with New 52 in 2011) "Your decades of continuity don't matter and have all been overwritten" sure is a good way to give a clean walk off point.
Outside of a couple standalones like the Alex Ross Fantastic Four story or Supergirl WOman of Tomorrow, I haven't picked up any ongoings from the big two for over a decade. That's so weird to me.
@Robby said in Western Comics thread:
If you really want to hunt down specific stories, the original Inferno is Sinister’s first big moment.
Kieron Gillen’s Uncanny X-Men is what re-envisioned Sinister as more over the top, and that's supposed to be pretty good. That’s Uncanny X-Men (2011).
But that's post One More Day so I haven't actually read it, just seen bits and pieces.
Man, they dropped the ball on Spiderman so hard I haven't bought ANY ongoing Marvel books in 15 years, when I used to get a ton, that was just such a massive hard cutoff point for me. (And then DC lost me with New 52 in 2011) "Your decades of continuity don't matter and have all been overwritten" sure is a good way to give a clean walk off point.
Outside of a couple standalones like the Alex Ross Fantastic Four story or Supergirl WOman of Tomorrow, I haven't picked up any ongoings from the big two for over a decade. That's so weird to me.
Does that mean you haven’t read House of X and Powers of X?
Robby that’s a must read in my opinion, it’s fantastic and revamped interest in X-Men
I’d definitely suggest reading it
I’d get the collected paper back version since it’s easier to follow
Again I don’t want to be a jerk and tell you what to read, but I highly suggest it
Thanks for the info on Mr Sinister
Sure. Soon as Spiderman's DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO MAGICALLY DIVORCE HIS WIFE AND UNDO TWENTY YEARS OF CONTINUITY is undone, I'll read regular Marvel books again. ...or at least that's what I tell myself but it's been so long since then I don't even know. I never expected that mandate to last decades. I've now spent almost as much time not reading the books as I did reading them.
I'm not even saying he an MJ need to be married again. Or that Peter's identity needs to be public again because they undid all of Civil War. Or that they need to bring back the organic webshooters. They just can't be divorced due to a DEAL WITH THE DEVIL that was nothing but positives for Peter.
And yeah, I know they've retconned that some a few times since to make it more palettable, MJ's choice, and they briefly looked like they were going to pay it off 15 years later with Harry actually being a result of that deal and all... and at the end of the day still couldn't do it.
Yes the stories always get regurgitated and deaths never stick and rosters constantly change and retcons happen with every new writer, and no one is ever happy for long, but that's just part of the whole comics thing. Both Marvel and DC had managed to do a continuous story my entire life since the time I could read until my 30's. Thousands of books. Then they did reboots and said "that's all gone now, the versions of the characters you've spent years with are different now in completely random ways and all that continuity is gone."
Oh yeah, they also spent 10 years doing the Ultimate line and then just sort of train wrecked that into a conclusion too. At least it had an ending I guess, even if it was basically the worst possible ending.
Both companies gave me walk off points and I took them. I stick with indies and Image comics now unless its a complete stand-alone one-off. Even if the stories and creative team are good I just can't deal with them anymore for the ongoings.
I'm ever so tempted to pick up Spectacular Spider-Men since Greg Weisman (Gargoyles) is writing it but...
The fact that DC after a few years re-merged New 52 with the Post-Crisis continuity doesn't work either because that is such a mess that makes no sense.
I’ve always liked the idea that some people hated the idea of Spider-Man having organic web shooters eventhough logically it’s one of the powers he should’ve had from the start as making webs is something that Spiders naturally have the ability to do.
Not to mention it seems kind of unrealistic that a high school kid could come up with a web shooting machine.
Cause if there's one thing I strive for, it's realism in my stories about people with superhuman powers.
That's generally been logic-ed away as "the spider powers instinctively gave him insight into making the fluid" but it really is a needless extra step that no one would go with if it hadn't been in there 60 years ago.
Don’t you just hate oversights like that? 
This costume is serving cunt for the whole SOL system
Goddamn, that is some cunt serving going on there. The waist/belt area really nails that effect.
Finally read V for Vendetta.
Not quite as good as I had hoped. The super-dark art made it hard to figure out who was who sometimes. V is a great character, though.
How long does it take for a comic to go to Marvel Unlimited?
they want to erase the throuple
